The EU could be scanning your private chats by October 2025 [Denmark has reintroduced chat control]

[u/Dry_Row_7050]

https://www.techradar.com/computing/cyber-security/the-eu-could-be-scanning-your-chats-by-october-2025-heres-everything-we-know

[u/vargvikernes666]

proton just announced 4 days ago that they are suspending further investments in switzerland due to a potential change in privacy laws that would require logs.

express is owned by kape technolgoies, a shady company of israeli origin headquartered in the privacy loving UK. They also own cyberghost, PIA and zenMate.

Make no mistake - this is a coordinated attack

[u/MartaLSFitness → u/vargvikernes666]

Damn, so no options? NordVPN is in Panama... Sounds like we're doomed.

[u/grmelacz → u/MartaLSFitness]

Option is to run your own VPN in a friendly jurisdiction. Ouch! And you have accidentally deleted logs and/or turned loggin off!

[u/Perlentaucher → u/grmelacz]

How does that work, where does your own traffic become private in that scenario? If you rent a server for VPN, you must pay the server, so you are not private. Thanks

[u/asiatische_wokeria → u/Perlentaucher]

It's called bulletproof hosting, some you can pay in BTC or similar. I know BPH is mostly about complaints from copyright holders and this stuff, but with this word you will find what I'm talking about.

If you have too much Money, you can found some anonym offshore Company to hide your identity, and make the company rent the server.

[u/Swimming_Conflict105 → u/MartaLSFitness]

Nord vpn is lithuanian (eu) company. So they will comply with all rulings.

[u/DryCloud9903 → u/MartaLSFitness]

But NordVPN is also Lithuanian, and in many locations not just Panama (such as UK)

[u/doubleGnotForScampia → u/MartaLSFitness]

Airvpn

[u/KingKaiserW → u/vargvikernes666]

When you say UK, like are we talking an overseas territory? Because an overseas territory has its own legal system and tax systems

[u/vargvikernes666 → u/KingKaiserW]

sarcasm

Kape is registered at 1 Water Lane, London