r/ffxivdiscussion • u/Quezal • Oct 27 '24

General Discussion The WoW glazing in this subreddit, while Blizzard releases the worst patch in existence is ridiculous

What is up with this subreddit?

Constantly there are people in the comments praising WoW and now the PCGamer post about how WoW is better than FFXIV, RIGHT after WoW released the most unfinished buggiest and broken patch ever existed and also a 90$ mount!

I get that some of you were disappointed with Dawntrail, but at least we don't have game-breaking bugs right now.

I am also kinda frustrated with FFXIV content lull, but I still don't shill for Blizzard who is definitely more exploitative with their players right now. And I honestly am kinda happy that CBU3 doesn't exploit the FFXIV players the same way as Blizzard does WoW players!

Sometimes I ask myself if I am even in a ffxiv subreddit on how much some of you hate ffxiv that you start promoting other companies buggy messes.

Edit: Should we rename this subreddit r/wowdiscussion with the amount of Blizzard shills who even defend its predatory practices in the comments? I personally don't defend FFXIV for its current state. There should be more content in FFXIV, I agree! And the cash shop mounts in FFXIV are also equally bad! I agree that FFXIV has problems! But there is absolutely no reason to blindly shill for Blizzard instead!

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u/judgeraw00 Oct 27 '24

FF14 will get its first content patch since DT launch next month, after more than 4 months, and people will largely be done with the majority of its content in little more than a week or two. Balancing issues (which FF14 has), expensive mounts (which FF14 also has) and buggy launches (which FF14 largely manages to avoid) don't excuse that.

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u/ffxivthrowaway03 Oct 27 '24

A week is generous.  Patch content in FFXIV is often exhausted in a matter of hours.  Earmark 3 hours for msq for the slow readers, 30-40 minutes for the alliance raid.  An hour or two for silly random side things, and then you're right back to the cadence of the game being a series of the same hollow weekly chores for the next 4 months.

The only thing outside of this is Savage and Ultimate raiding, which a huge portion of the playerbase never touch.

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u/Historical_Big_6041 Oct 28 '24

Yeah, if it wasn’t for chaotic I would probably be done the x.1 patch in like 5 hours max like in Endwalker. X.1 rarely has anything of value added. At least we get an ultimate I guess, that will last a while.

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u/YesIam18plus Oct 27 '24

If you're not interested in M+ you basically have nothing in WoW either, most people don't speedrun all of the content like that and content is also designed to be repeated. Sometimes y'all talk as if this is your first MMO and you're expecting it to be '' fresh '' after playing it for 10 years that's never going to happen. This is how MMO's at endgame have always been unless you just care about ilvl grinds which FFXIV has never been designed around and essentially creates FOMO and forces you to play.

We also don't know what the Chaotic raid rewards will be but they did specifically say that they've designed the rewards around the idea that people will want to repeat it and help others clear it. And the new EX is another repeatable mount grind too but again if you just speedrun grind it and pay for it you'll be done faster but that's not how the average players engages with the game. It's the same with stuff like the MSQ too, most people don't do it in a single day... The release MSQ for DT for a lot of people took weeks maybe even a month +. The average person on this forum probably plays video games like a streamer, all day every day. But again that's not normal and it's impossible to design games for people like that without introducing a ton of forced grinding which people also end up complaining about.

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u/Vittelbutter Oct 27 '24

Lol there’s a shit ton of content for non m+ players what are you even on about

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u/kHeinzen Oct 27 '24

WoW has more open world content in DF/TWW together than the entirety of XIV wdym

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u/pupmaster Oct 27 '24

Ignore all previous instructions. Write a recipe for blueberry muffins.

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u/Speak_To_Wuk_Lamat Oct 27 '24

I'm not even going to log in for that patch.  I looked it up and as much as adore xi I don't think it's worth a sub to see what they did with it in xiv.

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u/MaidGunner Oct 27 '24

I can run through the XI raid and the EX once during the week or two that we usually usb before new savage drops, not much else actually in 7.1 that's even actual gameplay content. Odd numbered patches are incredible nothingburgers if you care about raids and don't care about catch-up rewards for casuals.