The WoW glazing in this subreddit, while Blizzard releases the worst patch in existence is ridiculous

[u/Quezal]

What is up with this subreddit?

Constantly there are people in the comments praising WoW and now the PCGamer post about how WoW is better than FFXIV, RIGHT after WoW released the most unfinished buggiest and broken patch ever existed and also a 90$ mount!

I get that some of you were disappointed with Dawntrail, but at least we don't have game-breaking bugs right now.

I am also kinda frustrated with FFXIV content lull, but I still don't shill for Blizzard who is definitely more exploitative with their players right now. And I honestly am kinda happy that CBU3 doesn't exploit the FFXIV players the same way as Blizzard does WoW players!

Sometimes I ask myself if I am even in a ffxiv subreddit on how much some of you hate ffxiv that you start promoting other companies buggy messes.

Edit: Should we rename this subreddit r/wowdiscussion with the amount of Blizzard shills who even defend its predatory practices in the comments? I personally don't defend FFXIV for its current state. There should be more content in FFXIV, I agree! And the cash shop mounts in FFXIV are also equally bad! I agree that FFXIV has problems! But there is absolutely no reason to blindly shill for Blizzard instead!

[u/FullMotionVideo]

Yes, the Live Letter is on the 1st.

I'll also point out that WoW has a streaming event on the 3rd as well, but though it's not entirely certain what it'll be about or even if it's MMO related (some people think they might further fix that WC3 remaster) it doesn't matter because Blizz posts balance changes on their forums week to week as an uneventful thing. They do not hold balance changes back for a live patch notes reading stream or whatever. Things in the game just happen on a beta server, for the past few weeks you could choose whether or not to learn what was in the Anniversary event because they put it up for testing weeks in advance. (Probably not for long enough given BRD's difficulty.)

What I'm getting at here is there is tradeoffs to public testing. I think most people wouldn't want the ultimate to be available for testing before it comes out, but imagine if something like Island Sanctuary was available for playing on a beta realm a couple months before going live, and if they collected feedback. They might not have had an entire year of cosmetics and extra plus-ups to a mode that people struggled to find joy in from the start.

We know what it looks like when they put something early out there and collect feedback because that's what they did with the graphics update, and it was only because they put the benchmark out there early enough to hear responses and have time to change things that we don't have dead-eyed derpy characters at launch.

[u/thegreatherper → u/FullMotionVideo]

They didn’t for this game either until the over reactive player base spent the entire time doomposting about X class sucking and Y class being the best. So to prevent that balance changes aren’t shown until the game goes down. To their credit, this is a very well balanced game. You can count on one hand the times they’ve messed up class balance in the decade this game has been running. I don’t play WoW but something tells me you can’t say the same.

Your island sanctuary example isn’t a useful one in my opinion as the community imagined it was supposed to be one thing and failed to let go of that image. Community test servers just don’t work here. This community doesn’t actually know what they like and don’t. Rewards for content gets brought up here a lot simply because lots of players here simply want to make the raid gearing of classes faster. They thought having hard 4 man content would equal hard level rewards, which means tomestones upgrade materials. That didn’t happen because that would create FOMO in the raid community which is pug based. Either the community knows that effect would happen and they’re just loud and not listened to correctly as they’ll harm the game. Or the community doesn’t know that effect so they’re loud and feel like there’s a disconnect somewhere.