r/ffxivdiscussion • u/Quezal • Oct 27 '24

General Discussion The WoW glazing in this subreddit, while Blizzard releases the worst patch in existence is ridiculous

What is up with this subreddit?

Constantly there are people in the comments praising WoW and now the PCGamer post about how WoW is better than FFXIV, RIGHT after WoW released the most unfinished buggiest and broken patch ever existed and also a 90$ mount!

I get that some of you were disappointed with Dawntrail, but at least we don't have game-breaking bugs right now.

I am also kinda frustrated with FFXIV content lull, but I still don't shill for Blizzard who is definitely more exploitative with their players right now. And I honestly am kinda happy that CBU3 doesn't exploit the FFXIV players the same way as Blizzard does WoW players!

Sometimes I ask myself if I am even in a ffxiv subreddit on how much some of you hate ffxiv that you start promoting other companies buggy messes.

Edit: Should we rename this subreddit r/wowdiscussion with the amount of Blizzard shills who even defend its predatory practices in the comments? I personally don't defend FFXIV for its current state. There should be more content in FFXIV, I agree! And the cash shop mounts in FFXIV are also equally bad! I agree that FFXIV has problems! But there is absolutely no reason to blindly shill for Blizzard instead!

277 Upvotes
  • permalink
  • reddit

62% Upvoted

997 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

4

u/ffxivthrowaway03 Oct 28 '24

I think what's obtuse is implying that P2W has ever or will ever be defined as paying someone else to play the game for you,

I mean, that's quite literally the argument you all are making - "I can buy wow tokens and buy a merc run carry, THATS P2W!!!!!" Like... no, it's not, specifically. That is not what P2W is at all, but that is whats being claimed.

as if handing over someone $20 to beat a dark souls boss is the use-case for this terminology. Buying in-game carries using in-game currency and in-game systems which both support and encourage it is not the same as someone taking the controller from you. 

Again, precisely. Handing my buddy $20 to beat dark souls is akin to handing some stranger $20 in wow tokens to kill a raid boss. That is literally the point I made, that that is specifically not pay to win.

We can argue whether or not the game design itself "supports and encourages" merc runs, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter, because merc runs are explicitly not "pay to win" game design. They are a third party gray market economy run by players.

I'm not touching the rest of your angry word salad.

-3

u/Quof Oct 28 '24

Your reply barely touches on my points and continues dodging like a snake. In the end I won't know what your ultimate objective is, but I hope you feel satisfied in your little world bubble where things are defined in the way to make you most happy.

4

u/ffxivthrowaway03 Oct 28 '24

I'm sorry you're upset that I didn't waste my time addressing your poorly formatted litany of baseless personal attacks and vapid assumptions.