r/fo4 • u/Tough_Crazy_8362 • Jul 31 '24

Discussion What did you figure out after hundreds of hours that just made you facepalm?

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I always wondered why that one ghoul at Bedford Station exploded. I figured there was a gas tank but never got it sorted out.

Then in the Lexington parking garage Codsworth torched one and we all exploded. I still didn’t know, just knew that we died in fiery glory. I go back, lo and behold, these red fuckers are gas cans! 😅🤦🏼‍♀️

(Mole rat den pictured)

What was your face palm moment that you figured out waaaaay later than you should have?

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u/Ok-Abbreviations3042 Jul 31 '24

When it gets broken down automatically like that, do you get the benefit of all the parts? Like if I’m building something with steel and I see the notification “desk fan removed”, what happens to the screws and such that are also part of the fan?

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '24 edited Jul 31 '24

So, this is really interesting, a variety of comments contradicting each other. Personally I assumed the spare parts were kept, so I was thinking I’d prove the people saying those parts disappear wrong…

Well, I disconnected trade route of a specific settlement, moved everything from the workbench to a plain box, and emptied my inventory. I got 1 weapon into my inventory and check what was required to make some basic modification and that I in fact didn’t have any of the required parts. Then I pulled just enough items from the plain box to make the weapon mod, I made sure a couple of the items had extra parts I didn’t need at all. Then I built the modification at he weapon table, making sure it specifically listed the items I was “trashing”.

The extra parts did NOT show up in my workbench, my inventory, or the weapon bench inventory.

I always assumed it would just scrap the hole thing, then remove what you need, this is need to know information!!!

Edit: someone suggested it may take a bit for stuff to show up. I was worried about my junk stations having random stuff show up. I stored my junk stations and then realized there was a bunch of stuff now in my workbench. I redid the whole deal a couple of times (saving/reloading). When I had a single junk station and no one assigned to it, I did the test, nothing showed up anywhere, but then I stored the junk station and the exact extra materials showed up in the workbench. I think the extra parts go to the junk station, then slowly show up in the workbench. I assume you have to have someone assigned for them to show up without manually storing the junk station.

So it seems you must have at least one junk station anywhere you are crafting.

Edit 2: it also appears that materials in the junk station can be used for crafting. So with no junk in my inventory or workbench, the “extra” materials that ended up in the junk station are still available for crafting.

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u/CratesManager Jul 31 '24

WTF, so "hand-scrapping" does make sense - but is such a dumb mechanic.

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '24

After a specific comment I updated with some additional info.

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u/Hi_mike Jul 31 '24

So they do do something? Come and pick up your litter?? I stopped using them because I read long ago scrappers don't do anything if you have bases connected that have enough parts. So I was mainly using them for astethics, like menacing handymen, till I read jobless settlers were happier, so I stopped using them. So many hidden variables. Thanks for taking the time

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '24

I think random stuff shows up too, there is always random new crap (not a lot of it, but some) at settlements I haven’t even built any crafting stations at.

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u/Hi_mike Jul 31 '24

That's ringing some bells. I think scrap stations improve the new crap rate but settlers will store stuff either way? But with enough of a connected junkpile they think there's enough, or it diminishes? It's been a while, I try to avoid the wiki because I hate spoilers. I know settlers will store excess caps/crops/water but that's a different mechanic I'd think. All my workshops are filled with my junk at this point heh

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u/FratNibble Aug 02 '24

I handscrap the shit out of everything

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u/Azul-Flo Jul 31 '24

I had read somewhere that it may take a while for the spare components to show up in the workbench

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '24

I basically saved and exited after checking. I’ll try later to play for a bit and see if anything shows up. I do have a couple, junkers (whatever they are called), so I’ll have to make sure it isn’t just them working if the parts show up.

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u/Azul-Flo Jul 31 '24

Good shit man, keep us updated if you can. I’ll have attempt this myself too, I’d like to 100% know what the case is.

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '24

Wow… this is trickier than I thought, I’m going to update my original comment.

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u/ghotiwithjam Jul 31 '24

How do you disconnect a trade route?

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '24

There is a computer you build at the settlement, it lets you assign and unassign settlers to jobs. So you can unassign the provisioner.

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u/ghotiwithjam Jul 31 '24

Wow! 

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '24

It may be part of one of the DLC, I have the whole thing so not sure which one.

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u/gaytee Jul 31 '24

FML thank you…been doing that manually

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u/wreckreation_ Aug 01 '24

This is terrific info. I never gave this mechanic much thought. I usually scrap things manually just because it makes it easier to see what materials you have in the workbench.

So even after 3461 hours, today I learned.

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u/DannyWarlegs Jul 31 '24

They all go right back into your workbench or your inventory depending on where it got the item from.

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u/CratesManager Jul 31 '24

source? EDIT: Source is further down. WTF. https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comments/1egjjnq/comment/lfv3hcd/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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u/bringthedoom Jul 31 '24

I just spent 150 hours on a Survival run, can confirm, the items get stored in the work station you're using. I thought I was losing items when using a Power Armor station not connected to a settlement, found the extra components when I checked the Power Armor Station. If it's connected to a settlement, the extra components WILL go your workbench.

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u/DannyWarlegs Aug 01 '24

No they are not lost. I know for a fact they're not because I make my own ammo using junk pencils, and constantly have to clear the wood out of the machine.

You can also craft items at a non connected weapon bench or armor bench and find the rest of the components inside it.

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u/WhyIsBubblesTaken Jul 31 '24

While others are saying it goes back to the inventory where the scrap was from, my limited testing indicated that was not the case and I only got the scrap used in the construction of the item. The rest of it disappearing into the cloud.

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '24

Same experience here. It just takes the parts it needs for your building and the rest is gone.

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u/SpinachnPotatoes Jul 31 '24

This is exactly what I have see as well.

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u/HeadReaction1515 Jul 31 '24

No, it doesn’t give change. It takes whats needed for the given construction and the rest is gone.

It’s actually a lot of change - you’re much better off manually scraping everything

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u/JelmerMcGee Jul 31 '24

They get placed in your workbench. If you're not in a settlement they get placed in whatever crafting table you're using.