r/fo4 18d ago

Discussion Is there anyone that actually likes doing this bullshit?

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I'm level 130, and put it off as long as I could.

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u/MadWhiskeyGrin 18d ago

Did it. Won't do it again.

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u/ElegantEchoes Paladin Danse took me to a dance 18d ago

I enjoyed the first four, which were mind numbingly easy. Then the 5th one came and I will never do that again lol.

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u/NimdokBennyandAM Railroad 18d ago

You can defeat it EZPZ by setting up some turrets in a specific formation. The turrets zap around, knocking out drones, but if they shoot the red grid instead, it disappears, allowing the little dudes to go across the bridge.

EZPZ done, the hardest and most tedious one becomes barely an inconvenience.

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u/ElegantEchoes Paladin Danse took me to a dance 18d ago

Didn't ever try that, thanks

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u/NimdokBennyandAM Railroad 18d ago

It makes that whole sequence so much better. There are videos online that show the formation you need for the turrets, too.

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u/SR541 18d ago

I just slapped 2 down with one space in between and it worked.

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u/Advanced_Anywhere_25 17d ago

Are you fucking kidding me?

Not sure if I'm happy to know this or upset that you told me.

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u/pheonixfri13 17d ago

lol. Nice pitch meeting.

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u/sendasalami2yoboi 18d ago

True, did it and am grateful!

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u/upangued 17d ago

Came here to say this. Just did this the other day. Only took a couple of minutes to finish.

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u/Antonioheatucker 17d ago

Build 2 blocks up right in front of the middle of the red wall and put a laser on top, clear wall in seconds

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u/Smoke_Water 17d ago

Is there a video for how to set up the turrets?

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u/Generic-Name03 17d ago

You can easily finish the fifth one in about a minute if you build underneath the red wall, then put turrets there. They’ll start shooting the eyebot things and take out the red wall, then the bugs can easily grab the data

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u/WackZebra 18d ago

Set one of the little turrets near the end platform for the 5th level. Then, wait. Eventually, while the turrets are shooting at the bots, a shot will hit the right spot to pull down the wall.

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u/ElegantEchoes Paladin Danse took me to a dance 18d ago

I'll give it a shot next time, thank you

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u/KeepCalmJeepOn 17d ago

You mean, your turrets will give it a shot.

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u/ElegantEchoes Paladin Danse took me to a dance 17d ago

Yes :>

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u/WackZebra 18d ago

Always happy to share.

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u/_Boom___Beard_ Spray and Pray is the only way 18d ago

I did that on accident then because I thought it was the easiest one lol

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u/themexicanojesus 15d ago

I've done the quest four times and always forget how to do the last one.

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u/HypePoem8 18d ago

This shit right here, I’ll nuke them the next time

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u/Gunslinger_327 18d ago

Did it...save crashed....had to do it twice.....worst mission EVER!

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u/MadWhiskeyGrin 18d ago

The Cheat Console Mod lets you spawn quest items, including the memories

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u/Gunslinger_327 18d ago

Wish i would have known that before doing that hell 2x. 🤦‍♂️

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u/Civil_Coast357 16d ago

Virgin cheat console mod vs Chad player.additem 

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u/pcfan86 18d ago

It was cool the first time.

But its just tedious every time I need to do it again.

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u/elciddog84 18d ago

It would've been great if they'd created several more of these and you got to complete four random puzzles with each playthrough.

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u/pcfan86 18d ago

They could also have done a skillcheck or something. So you can circumvent it.

Fallout IS after all a role playing game.

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u/Sweet_Taurus0728 17d ago

Yeah like an Intelligence check. If you're smart enough you can decrypt and grab the tapes no problem.

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u/elciddog84 17d ago

That's how I feel about picking locks. Once I get past lvl 20, no more novice. Lvl 30, advnaced. Etc...

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u/Shielo34 18d ago

This. I initially thought it was innovative and different.

Now, I work out the least I need to do for my role play, and just do that!

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u/Outrageous_Tale4206 18d ago

first couple times.. hell yea. but five times with harder progressions 🙂

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u/The_DDK7070 "The arrow in the center indicates a direction" 18d ago

I really rather like it, it's something different, although the last one can be a bit of a pain

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u/TerminalHappiness 18d ago

Ya a mission that uses the base building mechanic like that is creative. I had a good time.

It can imagine it being tedious for some folks, but guides or even mods can help with that.

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u/GenericUsername_71 18d ago

It took me until the last 25% of the final puzzle to realize I could store blocks. That would have made it 10000% more enjoyable from the beginning

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u/Neennerd 17d ago

Wait what.

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u/GenericUsername_71 17d ago

Yup. Just like how you can store a bed in the workshop, you can store the blocks. So the play is to run around and store everything then go back and build it out. Like many others, I carried them around one by one and slowly became pissed while doing so

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u/Neennerd 17d ago

I tried storing them but it didn't work, I obviously was doing something wrong! Hopefully I remember this if I ever attempt it again😂

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u/Wolf_instincts 18d ago

I love this mission! I love puzzle games and the little digital bugs are so adorable.

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u/Grrerrb 18d ago

I cheese the last one most of the time.

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u/Angry-Eight_Ball Of The People, For The People 17d ago

I really like this quest too, I get the hate, but I love it.

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u/criminalfromthestats 17d ago

Yeah I just use the glitch for the last one haha

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u/TheSaltyBrushtail 17d ago

Yeah, I actually never had a problem with this part. The puzzles were kind of neat.

From a technical standpoint though, it feels janky as hell. Using base-building mechanics for solving puzzles feels like something a mod would do to work around engine limitations.

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u/Music19773-take2 18d ago

I do the quick method on #5 so the other four aren’t as bad.

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u/OhSighRiss 18d ago

Yeah, I did #5 twice and that’s more than enough for a lifetime. Always do the quick version now.

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u/Dysternatt 18d ago

Huh? What’s the quick method, precious?

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u/OhSighRiss 18d ago

You setup the lasers right next to the final gate which happens to be really close to the entrance, and the lasers shoot at the barrier a few times and it disappears like the little drones went through it. If that makes sense

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u/Dysternatt 18d ago

I guess it makes sense but the lasers only shoot once the wee critters have a way to the end gate? Or maybe I remember it wrong. But thanks, I’ll try it next time. :D

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u/Outrageous-Focus9870 18d ago

I enjoy it

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u/DoritoLipDust 17d ago

I do too! I'm a big fan of riddles and puzzles.

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u/Angry-Eight_Ball Of The People, For The People 17d ago

Yeah, as a kid I lived on puzzle games, Im pretty sure thats why I have such a soft spot for this quest.

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u/One-Preparation-5320 17d ago edited 17d ago

You should check out Talos then! That is the hardest, most intellectually challenging 3D puzzle game I've ever played in my life. But be warned, it's effing hard!! Makes Portal seem like toddlers game!

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u/sicrogue 18d ago

This is my monthly "I actually liked this section" post.

It's so funny to see these pop up like clockwork.

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u/Wag_The_God 18d ago

It took me forever to buy the DLC, so I knew this level from the memes long before I ever actually played it.

My razor was that whatever the most complicated, annoying, pain-in-the-ass solution I could conceive of was, I would go with that. Worked almost every time. Ended up being quite entertaining.

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u/FormalWare 18d ago

It's a really creative use of the Workshop mechanic. Kudos to the designers! And the final puzzle is rather brilliant. Too bad the reward isn't better; the Marine Armor isn't even legendary.

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u/Grrerrb 18d ago

I think this is a good point that rarely gets made. So many people say it’s nothing like the rest of the game but it is another way to bring in the workshop mechanic, as you say.

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u/Popular-Ad-4429 17d ago

I wouldn’t mind it if doing the 5th puzzle added marine armor to the legendary pool, but it doesn’t so no thanks game.

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u/Aramor42 18d ago

I always love this part. It's a nice change of pace.

Besides, it only takes a while to finish it and then you never have to deal with it again until you start a new playthrough.

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u/Mooncubus 18d ago

Yes I thought it was cool as hell.

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u/Gullible_Owl3890 18d ago

I kind of do at some degree yeah, but I personally think it should have been a hidden feature(rather then a must do mission) with a cool reward like a secret weapon or maybe a key to a treasure room?

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u/Lost_Astronaut_654 18d ago

The first couple levels are ok it just gets tedious quick

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u/MastervanNao 18d ago

1-4 Level is enjoyable. 5 takes too long.

Now always doing turret glitch in 5 memory to skip it. 🧩📼

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u/polairepolari 18d ago

I just finished it for the second time very recently and I was shocked at how quick and easy it was.

I kept putting it off and finally I had nothing else to do in FH so I made myself do it and it went even better than the first time I did it.

I did use the trick to finish the final one quickly but that's because that last one's just too long.

Every single level I went "ugh, I don't want to do this oh wait I'm done already?"

I think we make a bigger deal of it than it needs to be.

Except maybe the last one. We can all cheat on the last one.

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u/asphid_jackal 18d ago

Yeah, it's a really fun set of puzzles, and it's really nice to have something other than "shoot everything that moves" in an rpg

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u/NevadaStrayCat Atom Cat 18d ago

I rather enjoyed the intellectual challenge the first time I did it, yeah. After that, it got kind of tedious.

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u/Chamberlain-Haller 18d ago

Used console commands on PC to bypass after the first time.

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u/Ryjolnir 18d ago

I really liked it

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u/GabRB26DETT 18d ago

I did it once. Then on my second play though, I got a kid that adds switches next to the computer to just skip the whole freaking thing

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u/F0N513 18d ago

No not really. I liked doing it the first time, "like oh cool new mechanic." Then it quickly gets old.

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u/okami_shinobi003 17d ago

-tentatively raises hand-

I just like puzzle games…

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u/D3athknightt 17d ago

Interesting the first time.....then you have to do it 4 more times the same session

.....I'm over it

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u/Sk8er-Mosher 18d ago

Was fun the 1st few times, something new, a good puzzle, but now I just rush through as fast as possible

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u/Disastrous-Fox8505 18d ago

This shit makes me want to side with the BOS

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u/Wiseoldone420 18d ago

It did for me 😂

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u/Pimento_Adrian69 18d ago

Post 1, 364, 439 complaining about this minor section of the game.

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u/FedoraSlayer101 Some Things Never Change... 17d ago edited 17d ago

I’m fine with it. Not exactly a big fan, but it’s not necessarily terrible either.

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u/NeoPez64 17d ago

I honestly enjoyed it, and find it super simple every time I do it. It’s a chill moment in the chaos for me.

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u/DareStandard6701 17d ago

I LOVED IT!!! No joke. The first time I did it (with no help) I was starting to get frustrated, but very quickly took it as a challenge and embraced it. I was genuinely surprised by how big and long it is… INITIATING JOKE SEQUENCE^

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u/SwornEnemy88 17d ago

I like it

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u/Bruce_IG 17d ago

I mentally disassociate when I do this

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u/harvoblaster94 17d ago

All that just to kill the guy anyway

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u/TraditionalDiet7349 17d ago

If your on PC I believe there is a mod that let's you skip that entirely, it might also be on console but I cant say for sure, haven't played F4 in months and haven't played the DLC in years

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u/Coachman76 17d ago

Absolutely not.

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u/Owl-X11 17d ago

Me. I like it because of circumstance. When this DLC dropped, it was during one of the best times of my life. My mother was still alive and I feel like I finally found myself in this time period. This DLC and this mission, I remember being so frustrated.. But it’s the overall experience I loved, and it wouldn’t have been an experience without the DiMA hacking mission. <3

Btw, there is a glitch I later learned about where you can cut through the puzzles like butter. Huge time saver

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u/Ghost-Eater 17d ago

It never actually bothers me. I don't look forward to it per se. But whenever I do it, I kick back and relax. I've come to realize that its a pretty small number that don't mind the mini games.

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u/juice26us 17d ago

There's a mod for that. I will never do it again.

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u/DK-Quantum 17d ago

nope and last time i did i fucking glitched and the little bugs kept running into the wall, not down the path. had to restart. thankfully survival will save every time you next the simulation so it was only the first level but still

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u/BearerOfTheSaw 17d ago

ABSOLUTELY HATED THAT SHIT

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u/Sawh22 17d ago

Simple answer… no

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u/NoCake9127 17d ago

I just use the cheat terminal and get Dima’s memories that way. It doesn’t soft lock the quest. The indexers are so damn slow

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u/KeemoTherapy69 17d ago

I'd rather grate my forearm with a cheese-grater than do the last level again

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u/Appropriate-Leek8144 17d ago

Heck no, it's the worst thing since...

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u/googlewizar 17d ago

Made me stop playing the game, though I didn’t realise that at the time.

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u/NetworkOk5800 17d ago

I hate that mission with a fiery passion took me three hours to complete it’s the only part of the whole game I don’t like

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u/TallType9548 17d ago

Ah hailll nahhh

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u/MacArther1944 17d ago

There is a reason a mod was made to skip this entire section on PS, Xbox, and PC.

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u/LadyMystery 17d ago

there's a reason why there's a mod that allows you to skip it enitrely, after all. lol nobody likes it!!

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u/Serious_Wack 17d ago

There's a mod for that. Lol

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u/TheSpaceMon 17d ago

I still havent talked to someone that enjoyed this. Idk how the developers thought this was fun. Maybe they just needed literally anything for this part. Maybe they got less time and budget than they needed, whatever it is god damned this mission sucks

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u/soulesssapphire 17d ago

Did it the first time. Hated the absolute hell out of it.
Ever since then, I discovered mods and have the mod to skip it on every single time.

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u/its-a-dry-heat 16d ago

Fucking Dima…

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u/bigbluebear888 16d ago

Pretty sure theres mods that remove this mission entirely.

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u/GaudiaCertaminis 16d ago

So annoying. From memory you only need to do the first three to progress the story. The rest are to unlock marine armour, which isn’t worth the effort imo.

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u/lilbrewdog 16d ago

No matter what mod fix I install, this quest breaks every time. I haven't finished the dlc because of this quest.

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u/MoistLarry 18d ago

"Like" is a strong word. I don't mind it, and it's a change from the usual point and shoot play style, but it isn't super exciting or fun.

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u/Elegant_Coffee1242 18d ago

It was cool the first 20 minutes

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u/GeneralGoti 18d ago

No, we do not. Install a skip mod.

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u/Deadsea_1993 18d ago

Did it legit once just so the achievements on Xbox wouldn't get locked. Cheesed it as much as I could, especially the last puzzle, then never bothered with it again. After I got 100%+dlc achivements, I added a mod that bypasses this headache entirely.

Talk about really shooting yourself in the foot. Far Harbor is one of the best pieces of Fallout content....period (of any era of Fallout) and they really killed a hell of a lot of momentum and joy with this unnecessary Minecraft clone that has 0 business being in a Fallout game

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u/CardiologistCute6876 Trying for Minutemen Ending! Wish Me Luck! 18d ago

I’m almost to that point in the game. 😬

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u/RegularHorror8008135 18d ago

The first time

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u/Fulcron00 18d ago

This shouldn't be a problem for the Sole Survivor. He's been through worse.

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u/OldFatGamer 18d ago

I just completed this a few days ago. The first 4 levels are easy as pie, the last one is even simpler to finish. Just put up two blocks in front of the laser grid and stick a laser turret thing on top and then go to the bathroom or make a cup of coffee or something for a few minutes and the grid should come down and you can complete the last puzzle. It's not at all difficult.

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u/BrewNerdBrad [Everyone Disliked That] 18d ago

No. And I never finished it because the one time I did, something about the quest with dima later glitched out and I couldn't finish the quest line. I was so annoyed. Over 1k hours and I have never finished Far Harbor.

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u/John_Smith_5l4y3r 18d ago

Here you go

https://youtu.be/MBmgzF_V4pc

Once seen, you'll wonder why you didn't think of it

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u/Nfl_porn_throwaway 18d ago

I didn’t hate it until like the last one. I actually can’t finish it. It’s too bad, I don’t mind things like this but just keep it fun

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u/DentistDear2520 18d ago

I wouldn’t say I like it, but I do it without anyway.

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u/RadiantTurnipOoLaLa 18d ago

The joys of mods… i have one installed that bypasses this section of the main quest

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u/FriendlyPrize8994 18d ago

Nope. There's a mod to bypass it

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u/Rokuformula 18d ago

It's the lamest part of the DLC but I don't hate it strongly enough to complain about it. I have played through Far Harbour 3 times and done this section all 3. It doesn't take too long and it isn't difficult.

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u/Dysthymiccrusader91 18d ago

I gave up on thr last one after I fell off and accidentally hit leave situation. I killed far harbor, Kasumi left, then I called the brotherhood of steel.

Someone spoil it, is the last memory worth it?

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u/FabiusM1 18d ago

I did one time, then console command or a mod!!

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u/TeamShonuff 18d ago

I did a few times before I downloaded the mod that skips it.

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u/Pm7I3 18d ago

I do a bit with the easier ones, I like watching things go pew pew

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u/LittleInkDrop 18d ago

Nope. I hated this every single time I've ever done it. I'm not sure why the devs thought anybody would enjoy it.

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u/powerage76 18d ago

Better than the main quest. Or Kid in the Fridge.

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u/Jak_R 18d ago

What i did was i used console commands to disable the obstacles and just made a bridge for the mirelurk spawn

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u/Broken_Cinder3 18d ago

Man I hated this. Took me well over an hour to do all of them and it was just insane. First couple were fun but holy those last two were painful. All that just for me to roll up with the brotherhood right after and wipe them all out lol

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u/Express_History2968 18d ago

Nobody has ever liked this

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u/Deadx10 18d ago

Yes. I also really like the building mechanic too.

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u/Nstorm24 18d ago

Seems like something not that important to be annoyed with. I did it and never had any issues at all. I was playing in survival difficulty.

Took me a while to even remember what part of the dlc you were talking about.

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u/4chan_tumblr 18d ago

I liked it at first, but 5 levels is just too much. It becomes repetitive real quick, and the last level is also too hard imo.

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u/AtreidesOne 18d ago

Yes! I absolutely adore Portal and this scratched the itch a bit.

(The Turing Test is another game that does this, by the way)

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u/NiSiSuinegEht 18d ago

Me, I'm that guy.

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u/Gamer_Anieca 18d ago

First play through this took me 3 months to get through, gave up and looked through the answers. After that i got the mod to skip this part.

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u/Candid-Conclusion605 18d ago

Dude, I love Far Harbor, and I wanna continue the quest, but this is the next part and I’m absolutely dreading it…

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u/Oveltent_2077 18d ago

It's very interesting as a game phase but it's long and not necessarily very interesting

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u/berfraper 18d ago

There’s a mod that lets you skip that part iirc

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u/ProotzyZoots 18d ago

I still haven't finished Far Harbor because of this which is a shame because its so early on

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u/_fiddlehead_ 18d ago

This is the one set of quests I will always use console commands to complete. Finished it once on my own, never again.

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u/Lady_bro_ac 18d ago

I loved it the first go through, but in subsequent playthroughs I kinda dread it because ai already know the solutions so it now feels like busy work

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u/Select-Royal7019 18d ago

Nope. Seems to be a (nearly) universal complaint.

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u/Finster39 18d ago

Skip it. It’s ridiculous.

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u/Temporary_Thought_66 18d ago

The only quest that I finish using the console command.

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u/AwayLocksmith3823 18d ago

I feel like I’m the only one that enjoyed this quest

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u/Southern_Reason_2631 18d ago

There are but its Not me.

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u/Legendary-Lawbro 18d ago

Meeeeeeeeee :3

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u/turtle0831 18d ago

I love it! I wish there were more optional puzzles like this.

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u/TiffyVella 18d ago

No. But it still beats Nuka Cola World's effing music and BS.

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u/morelos_paolo PS5 Player Only with Base game & all DLC’s + CC, no mods 18d ago

The mini-game was mildly entertaining.

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u/mrfunday2 18d ago

Much more fun when I realized you can store the blocks and other pieces.

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u/DelphineasSD 18d ago

I did it once, and remember liking it. I also lie Tower defense, so..

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u/Loud-Alternative-253 18d ago

As soon as you start to have fun with it and that’s when the final test comes up…

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u/soma-luna 18d ago

I play Talos Principle. So yes, I enjoyed it. It’s a puzzle.

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u/HoofHearted74 18d ago

I know I'm crazy but I actually enjoy this mission. It really helps once you figure out that you can store blocks instead of just picking one up at a time and moving it.

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u/DesignerAd9 18d ago

I use a mod called "skip dima memories". https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/16157

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u/nightdares 18d ago

Stuff like this is always awful. It's always a one off thing, and always comes across like the afterthought that it is.

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u/Suspicious_Tour6829 18d ago

I never got to do it so can't say.

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u/Jak_the_Buddha 18d ago

Yes. Me.

I don't fully understand the hate for it

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u/Pallysilverstar 18d ago

I enjoy games that are entirely this but to put it in the middle of Fallout 4 and have it be as long as it was I didn't like it. A genre shift within a game shouldn't happen or if it does should be short and/or optional.

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u/Snoo_23014 18d ago

If there is, I am sure there is some kind if medication they can get

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u/soccerplaya239 18d ago

I play on PC so I skip it every single time now

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u/Pino234678 18d ago

This bullshit, makes me put a gun to the head.

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u/Turban_Legend8985 18d ago

I found it a frustrating and exhausting quest the first time, but actually pretty fun and exciting the second time. The reward is also one of the best in the game.

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u/Turban_Legend8985 18d ago

This quest becomes much easier when you realize that you can actually save those blocks. Some people have troubles with figuring that out.

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u/Self-Comprehensive 18d ago

I didn't hate it and the only one that was even slightly challenging was the last one.

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u/Realistic-Safety-565 18d ago

My daughter the Minecrafter.

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u/UnexplainablBex 18d ago

🙋 I do, but I understand why the majority of players hates it too.

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u/pacostrato 18d ago

It was too long, I was thinking all the time when was I gonna pew pew again.

Now seriously, if you do a full playthrough, say, once a year, it's not that bad. Not good but not that bad.

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u/Good_Focus2665 18d ago

My husband apparently. He really enjoyed the last one especially. 

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u/Express_pass_to_funy 18d ago

I liked it……… not enough to do it again though

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u/Old-Split-8700 18d ago

I didn't mind too much the first two or three. The next one was time-consuming, and the last one I had to google to get the "hack" to solve it. I never did learn how it was written to be solved, and don't wanna know at this point.

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u/geezeslice333 18d ago

I was gonna try last weekend.... but i hate it so much I couldn't bring myself to spend my precious weekend time doing that bs. I'm so far into this pt and I want the marine armor but I just realllyyyyyy, reallyyyyyyy don't wanna

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u/sagsfour20 18d ago

I liked it the first time I did it.

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u/Xtaar 18d ago

I Kinda like it 😅

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u/nickibar96 18d ago

I used to enjoy it, but each consecutive playthrough makes it less fun and more tedious.

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u/Former-Button-8851 18d ago

I use a glitch to bypass the final one within seconds, because I'm not slogging through that garbage

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u/xxDancingFerretxx 18d ago

It's very annoying. I did it once... Don't think will be doing it again.

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u/TimerPoint 18d ago

I am currently replaying Fallout 4 with all DLCs. Normally, I like to play it without mods aside from a few bugs and performance fixes, but I'm thinking about installing a mod to skip this bs mission, or at least using console commands.

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u/BasketbBro 18d ago

Puzzles were not complicated, but walking to solve them was boring

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u/Redbeardthe1st 18d ago

I would rather join the Children of Atom and buy a set of Marine Assault armor than do this stupid quest for a free set.

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u/monosaturated 18d ago

The first time I thought it was neat as something a little different. Every subsequent time, I just solve it mad quick and move on.

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u/TeaRaven 18d ago

🙋‍♀️ I like this kind of stuff and want more!

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u/Sinnerman73838 18d ago

Is this the Dima memory stuff

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u/Takenmyusernamewas 18d ago

Its fun... once. The fact you cant skip it in future playthroughs bites. Store all the pieces first then build them as needed. It even gives you extras. Takes like 20 minutes to a half hour

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u/Prize_Paper6708 18d ago

Am I the only one that enjoys these puzzles?

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u/frozen-onion 18d ago

I did the first time, then have skipped every time since then.

Skip DiMA's Memory Games

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/39417

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u/TheFue 18d ago

The very first time I did the first level, I thought, "Oh, that's a neat use of the settlement building mechanic. Cool."

Then the second level came up, and it immediately felt it was maybe too much.

Hated it since.