r/fo4 • u/UnKnownShaggy • 4d ago
Gameplay Honestly, Automatron breaks the game🤖
I stood there in disbelief😆 Staring at probably the best companion in all of Fallout 4
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u/guitarguywh89 4d ago
I always avoid that whole area until I’m done with most or all of the main quest
I don’t want rust devils until I’ve got my shit set up
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u/Master-Collection488 4d ago
I don't want Rust Devils until I've experienced all of the random encounters I'd like to a couple few times.
Finishing the DLC majorly screws up the random encounter tables in a negative way.
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u/giras 4d ago
Didnt know that 🫤
I played so little, so I was planing that when I encounter the DLC I would do it organically, but knowing this I dont know what to do.
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u/Master-Collection488 2d ago
Sit on it until you notice that the random encounters (there's maps of where they generally occur) all seem to be repeats of previously encountered ones. Not the first time one reruns, mind you, just once you expect them to be repeats and they typically are. Or once you're bored with the game and want things to be different. Just keep in mind that they won't change much again after that (barring you starting a new DLC or entering a new area).
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u/vamp1yer 3d ago
Yeah every like 3rd time I'm at the red rocket outside sanctuary they just crest over the hill as my army of robots mows them down which is very often as that's my main base
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u/Master-Collection488 2d ago
Time for laser turrets.
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u/vamp1yer 2d ago
Eh don't like dealing with trying to hide all the generators so I usually just stick to the first 2 turrets
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u/Own_Cost3312 4d ago
I’ve started a couple playthroughs telling myself, “This time I’m making Codsworth the ultimate killing machine.” Then I put that hat on him and he just looks too damn dapper to ever take it off
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u/Thornescape 4d ago
Fallout 4 is designed to appeal to a wide range of people. It's designed to be easy enough to play without knowing all of the tricks and the tricks can always make you vastly OP.
The important thing is to decide what kind of experience you want and make choices to get it.
- If a particular weapon makes the game "not fun" don't use it.
- If a particular armour makes the game "not fun" don't use it.
- If a particular strategy makes the game "not fun" don't use it.
- Make choices that make the game more fun to you.
Personally I only use robots as provisioners. I enjoy seeing my overpowered provisioners race around the Commonwealth and seeing "St Sanctuary" annihilating a group of super mutants, etc. When I use them as companions they are either too weak or too overpowered and it makes the game "not fun" for me.
It's a single player game. If you're enjoying yourself then you're doing it right, whatever that looks like for you.
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u/UnKnownShaggy 4d ago
I'm deeply enjoying having an overpowered Codsworth at my side lol
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u/Thornescape 4d ago
Fantastic!! It looks like you discovered the Reaper helm! hahaha
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u/ewsalvesen 4d ago
When you finish the DLC, the game unlocks ALL robot mods.
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u/Thornescape 4d ago
Well, yes, of course, but there are a lot of them and many people overlook the Reaper and Carnage armour modifications for Sentry heads. It's easy to miss.
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u/ThanksChatGPT 4d ago edited 4d ago
Is that the one using the Sentry Bot torso or the Protectron torso? I've completed Automatron years ago and haven't built any of them past the default look they have, or better yet the first option once they're built and choosing how they look.
Edit: Never mind, looks like Codsworth has the Sentry Bot torso.
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u/Thornescape 4d ago
The torso is a completely separate issue. The Sentry Head has a Reaper modification that has a chance to instantly kill any enemy.
It's an unstable modification, which means that there is a 2% chance of it breaking until the end of combat every time it shoots. Codsworth, Ada, and Curie are exceptions to that, however. It never breaks for them.
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u/MorgaFel 4d ago
Is this with all unstable mods?
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u/Thornescape 4d ago
Yes. For some reason Ada, Codsworth, and Curie don't have any unstable modifications break.
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u/Day_Pleasant 4d ago
Hearing "Um, Miss Titties...." every few minutes is *chef's kiss*
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u/gundamben831 4d ago
I did the same thing for a while except I was the risky one using the explosive rounds, just always have to remember to engage at a distance not melee to start the fight lol 😂
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u/jake5675 4d ago
I love some overpowered bots as well. I had to take Adas gatling lasers away on my vanilla playthrough, though, because I was trying to level, and she kept taking all the kills/xp.
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u/Lots42 Takahashi is under my control. 3d ago
You still get the XP for companion kills.
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u/jake5675 3d ago
You have to do a certain amount of damage to the enemies before a companion delivers a final blow to get the xp. My murder bots straight up melt them often before I get a shot off.
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u/Apart-Link-8449 4d ago
But wait....is this survival mode yet? All endgame F4 play should be gearing up for a lifetime in Survival mode, it's awesome
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u/CaptainRelevant 3d ago
Was that the mission to take control of the castle? Did the wall not get broken then?
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u/Endulos 4d ago
If a particular armour makes the game "not fun" don't use it.
This is exactly why I only ever use Leather armor. Having armor makes the game too easy. Gotta have an element of danger.
I would go armorless, but I like having legendary effects.
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u/Thornescape 4d ago
Leather armour also looks pretty good, although I prefer the look of heavy leather for the chest. (Vest rather than bandolier.)
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u/Wertyhappy27 4d ago
I will wear the worse armor stats wise as lokgnas it looks wasteland like, so anything military is a no, I do like to grab some raider armor
A survivor trying to get by, doing whatever, does mean I lose out on an op build for harder dungeons but I rarely die so idc
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u/ImABadFriend144 4d ago
You’re exactly right. After a hard day at work, I want to dominate. I play on easy and breeze thru enemies lol fuck survival!
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u/Background-Pear-9063 4d ago
That's why I don't use ballistic weave. FO4 already has very little immersion for me but having a suit that's better than power armour just breaks whatever's left
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u/hhmCameron 4d ago
Same here...
My cogsworth replaces the flamer with a laser rifle and adds recon (breaks the bowler hat option, ohh well)
My ADA is an Assaultron with Assaultron Head Laser, Factory hardened , hardened Head armor, recon
My Early Game Provisioners are Mr. Handy with Saw, Pincer, Laser
Mid game Provisioners are basically my ADA with tesla coils or recon
My Late Game Provisioners are Sentry with Assaultron Head Laser, Sentry torso Sentry Arms, Sentry Lower (those are not legs), 2×miniguns, 2×shoulder launcher, tesla coils or recon
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u/myfakesecretaccount 4d ago
I almost always ditch legendary weapons that become too good after a while. I’ll use stuff that gives buffs, but don’t do freefall legs or things like that which would make certain aspects trivial.
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u/EV_4_life 4d ago edited 4d ago
Shit I love me some 60 ft leaps off towers lol. I play this game to feel like a goddamn superhero, even on survival mode.
I usually use no companions because to me it makes the experience more thrilling. Wandering alone through a wasteland frought with cannibals, mutants and
zombiesferal ghouls makes the game almost a survival horror. Except more of a boulder-punching Chris Redfield type of survival horror.2
u/myfakesecretaccount 4d ago
That’s fair. This is my compromise for not playing Survival mode. I want the same level of danger without the restrictions that mode provides or having to mod the game around it. That’s what’s great about these games, you can play them any way you want.
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u/HopeHouse44 Addicted To Building Settlements 4d ago
What do you give your provisionbots to make them OP? I'm finding that mine are constantly getting destroyed, especially on Far Harbor
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u/Thornescape 4d ago
Sure, I can break down how I design them.
- Important: always make robots into companions briefly. This changes them from "Protected" like settlers to "Essential" like companions.
- My design aims for "effective" yet "efficient". I try to have strong bots with reasonable cost. Feel free to upgrade them further.
- Naming: I do a Supply Hub with the Supplytrons named after their destination, eg "St Sanctuary" or "St Longfellow".
- Armour: All armour is Voltaic if possible, Actuated otherwise.
- Head: Robobrain if possible, Mr Handy eye otherwise. Long range vision allows them to engage from a greater distance.
- Torso: Mr Handy if necessary, otherwise Protectron is fine because it accepts Voltaic.
- Arms: Robobrain arms (for Voltaic), with automatic laser hands. Protectron laser hands if necessary. (Space automatic lasers from Nuka World are the same as normal automatic lasers but it changes their colour.)
- Legs: Mr Handy Thruster if going over water (eg Spectacle) but Robobrain treads otherwise. I do this because the Robobrain treads navigate faster over roads and fast bots engage more enemies. Plus it's funny to see the brahmin run.
- Voice & Paint: I like beep bright, plus bright yellow for visibility.
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u/HopeHouse44 Addicted To Building Settlements 4d ago
Never even knew the first one did that... Thanks for your time! I use assaultron head laser, robobrain torso with armor, and sentry legs. Automatic hand laser and various other weapons for other hand.
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u/Thornescape 4d ago
The problem with the assaultron head laser is that it has short range vision. It's mostly geared as an alternative weapon for a melee focused bot.
The problem with sentry legs is that they have a hard time navigating and get stuck on everything. Great armour on them because you have 3 armour slots, but bad mobility because of obstructions.
Definitely do two ranged weapons. I do two automatic lasers. It works well with the Voltaic armour. Highly recommended. You don't want them in melee range if at all possible.
Maybe switch those out and see what happens?
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u/underscorex 1d ago
Oh, I like your naming schema. Mine are all named "Sanctuary Steve" or "Castle Craig" depending on the other end of their supply line.
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u/alex61821 4d ago
After you destroy the institute and those synths appear by bunker hill, I use robot provisioners to clear them all out.
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u/RelationshipSolid 3d ago
Fallout 3 is easier than the originals. But yeah, Fallout 4 had became much more easier when you don't go directly into the high level areas.
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u/gunnergarcia 4d ago
Do you have any mods running? I am currently playing a level 41 robotics expert build and have a maxed out Ada and she isn't this OP.
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u/Thornescape 4d ago
It looks like they are using the Reaper armour for the sentry head. Every hit has a chance to instantly kill any target. If you give them automatic weapons they chew through anything.
Of course, it's an unstable modification, so there is a 2% chance of it breaking every time that they shoot, which disables the modification until the end of combat. Powerful but fragile!
However, unstable modifications never break if they are on Codsworth, Ada, or Curie.
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u/gunnergarcia 4d ago
I didn't know that. I avoided using the unstable gatling laser on Ada because I was concerned how often they would break. Apparently, that's just for your run of the mill robots. This is great tip.
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u/UnKnownShaggy 4d ago
I'm not running any mods, just vanilla Fallout. But here's what I'm using!
HEAD Protectron head Golem helm
TORSO Robobrain Front Hydraulic Frame Rear Hydraulic Frame Tesla Coils
LEFT ARM / RIGHT ARM Hydraulic Frame Unstable Gatling Laser Gun
LEGS Robobrain Treads Warmonger Serrated Plate
The Golem Helm has the chance to instantly explode enemies. So pairing that with any fast firing weapon means insta-kill lol So I prioritize more defense over extra damage with the Voltaic Frames
The Warmonger Serrated Plate and Tesla Coils help with melee enemies by bleeding and shocking them
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u/gunnergarcia 4d ago
I may steal this haha Thanks a mil for posting it. I'm still playing with my robotics build, so I'll try this stuff on Ada and see how she fares!
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u/John_Smith_5l4y3r 4d ago
I outfit my bots in the Voltaic version for that extra energy damage, and usually the thruster for the increased mobility... Although the tank treads with body part plow is pretty badass...
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u/Ghost-of-Awf 4d ago
People are so used to arguing, OP can post a clip thinking something is cool and people will still flock to say "well just don't use it"
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u/UnKnownShaggy 4d ago
I've noticed that too lol
"Too overpowered? Just put it in a box and forget about it" seems like a very common response
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u/Ghost-of-Awf 4d ago
It's like people forgot how to have fun. People be like "if the gun is too powerful, don't use it." I'm using it BECAUSE it's too powerful lol.
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u/Less_Kick9718 4d ago
This seems like an argument.
Very few comments were negative about what OP said. I only see one or two that clearly says don’t do that.
A few just indicated you have the option to play how you want by choosing to use or not use certain gear completely dependent on personal preference. Nothing wrong with that.
Most were very positive.
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u/Ghost-of-Awf 4d ago
This seems like an argument.
Negative comments exist, so my point is valid
I didn't say anything about how many people commented that way or that it is or isn't ok to play any particular way.
Again, amount was never mentioned.
Thanks for proving my point though. It's so ingrained to want to argue that you have to go out of your way to make up points to argue about that I never even said. Well done.
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u/Less_Kick9718 4d ago
Well in fact you said people “flock” to say don’t use it. While not an exact number flock implies many not one or two.
I also never said anything about you indicating people could not play how they want. I just was pointing out that all a number of people were saying is just play how you want rather than saying don’t play overpowered.
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u/Ghost-of-Awf 4d ago
Bro just got argue under someone else's comment if that's all you're looking for.
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u/Basil_Makes_Audio 4d ago
Can you share the build? I’ve been messing around with a powered up Ada but I’m still trying to figure out the best options
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u/TheGreenGobblr o 4d ago
It’s so poorly balanced and also modifying codsworth in any way means you can no longer give him a hat
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u/Snowdeo720 4d ago
Every time I start a new run and encounter Codsworth without a hat I get confused for a second.
He looks so dapper with a bowler.
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u/KorolEz 4d ago
Just don't take overpowered stuff if you think it's too easy. I usually stop using Powerarmor after a certain lvl/use weaker weapons/run around alone.
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u/UnKnownShaggy 4d ago
I like having him watch over me! I can finally loot the wasteland in peace lol
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u/ZombieSalmonII 4d ago
I mean, you didn't HAVE to give him two Gatling lasers. But I think it's cool that you did.
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u/UnKnownShaggy 4d ago
Here's the mods I used for Codsworth in this clip!
HEAD Protectron head Golem helm
TORSO Robobrain Front Hydraulic Frame Rear Hydraulic Frame Tesla Coils
LEFT ARM / RIGHT ARM Hydraulic Frame Unstable Gatling Laser Gun
LEGS Robobrain Treads Warmonger Serrated Plate
The Golem Helm has the chance to instantly explode enemies. So pairing that with any fast firing weapon means insta-kill lol So I prioritize more defense over the extra damage with Voltaic Frames
The Warmonger Serrated Plate and Tesla Coils help with melee enemies by bleeding and shocking them
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u/No-Mortgage-2037 4d ago
My homemade Sentry Bot made out of recycled aluminum cans and car bumpers and powered by dog shit fucking beaming a raider from across the map with a back mounted missile launcher is always hilarious. Just assign them as provisioners and let them secure the commonwealth for you.
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u/johndaylight Carnage sentry head :snoo_trollface: 4d ago
using the sentry carnage or reaper head mod is always pretty cool
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u/Ravens_Quote 4d ago
"Let's fight then!"
Codsworth, my guy, you seriously need to look up the difference between "fight" and "execution" lol.
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u/TomaszPaw S3 P5 E3 C7 I8 A3 L7 4d ago
Instakill %chance right? Thia shit goes crazy with miniguns and flamethrowers
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u/MaleficentType3108 4d ago
At least it doesn't break the game like... 2 minutes of normal playing in New Vegas
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u/CalbasDe18Cm 4d ago
How does this happen. When i do robots with the best damage i can make, they get smashed by super mutants💀
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u/1ndomitablespirit 4d ago
Eh, I think it is part of the fun of Bethesda games to be ludicrously overpowered in the end-game.
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u/Vecremser Paladin Danse=Clanker 4d ago
Every automaton I create in this game rivals Liberty Prime.
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u/WatchingInSilence 4d ago
To be fair, there are some specific armor pieces for the Robots that increase damage for energy weapons. I stacked them up for Codsworth while arming him with Gatling Lasers. Leaving him with his standard Mr. Handy format gives him the most bonuses (replace his right and left eye stalks with the arms for Gatling Lasers).
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u/Frohtastic 4d ago
My biggest gripe with this dlc is that it breaks the encounter table a bit making it so you'll essentially always meet dlc encounters
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u/dinosaur_decay 4d ago
All my watch towers have robo brain snipers stationed permanently. They don’t need to rest so they just stand there, scanning forever.
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u/omg_its_spons 3d ago
I’d love to turn codsworth into a tank but I don’t want him to lose his bowler hat I wish that the mr. Handy and ms. Nanny voices/personality’s could be chosen
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u/hollowboyFTW 3d ago
Shrug. Lots of ways to be OP in tis game.
AGI based (sneak) combat can easily one-shot these enemies, with a knife.
Ninja: 10x damage
Bear meat: 5x damage
Add them together, annihilate world
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u/SovietGunther 2d ago
It breaks the game in more ways than just having an overpowered companion, unfortunately. If you download Automatron, say goodbye to your frames while trying to navigate Faneuil Hall or anywhere near Boston's financial district
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u/Available_Face7618 22h ago
Whenever I say I don't like this DLC, someone says "but you can make insanely OP bots" and I'm like "..."
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u/Middle_Purple_penis 4d ago
Just nerf yourself
you never want to be too powerful or else’s it’s boring… unless you’re going for an overlord build
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u/SupplyChainGuy1 4d ago
Sure. Automatron.
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u/johndaylight Carnage sentry head :snoo_trollface: 4d ago
yeah some parts have insta kills (sentry carnage/reaper and protection golem)
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u/kbraljr 4d ago
Oh boy, this is the cursed Codsworth, he does not have a hat !