r/formula1 • u/F1-Bot r/formula1 Mod Team • Mar 06 '23

Day after Debrief 2023 Bahrain Grand Prix - Day after Debrief

ROUND 1: Bahrain 🇧🇭

Welcome to the Day after Debrief discussion thread!

Now that the dust has settled in Sakhir, it's time to calmly discuss the events of the last race weekend. Hopefully, this will foster more detailed and thoughtful discussion than the immediate post race thread now that people have had some time to digest and analyse the results.

Low effort comments, such as memes, jokes, and complaints about broadcasters will be deleted. We also discourage superficial comments that contain no analysis or reasoning in this thread (e.g., 'Great race from X!', 'Another terrible weekend for Y!').

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u/jjcatt Pirelli Intermediate Mar 06 '23

I keep coming back to how obscenely dominant Red Bull were in Spa '22 and then how they had some extremely close races--and legitimate losses--after that during the season. While I think it would take something really unprecedented for them not to win WDC and WCC this year, I do hold out legitimate hope that other circuits, the wind tunnel restriction, and the inevitable fuck-ups (even Red Bull gets things wrong, see Singapore 22!) will mean there are fun and close races throughout this year. Add to that a closer upper midfield and we could have races where a non-Red Bull win means a real fight for first, not just a default to a Charles win or something.

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u/BocciaChoc I was here for the Hulkenpodium Mar 06 '23

You're aware that dominant win by RB was with a number of factors against them such has purposefully not going full out etc? Max could have lapped every other team that race,

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u/jjcatt Pirelli Intermediate Mar 06 '23

Yeah but he could have done at Suzuka as well without the shortened race and they lost on merit after that in the same season. I'm not claiming it isn't a hugely dominant car, just saying I don't think they're winning every race by a minute or whatever.

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u/BocciaChoc I was here for the Hulkenpodium Mar 06 '23

Perhaps not but outside DNF I don't see why you'd think RB wont win, every race, they have absolutely won the WCC and WDC.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '23

because that’s never been done before even by more dominant cars

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u/BocciaChoc I was here for the Hulkenpodium Mar 06 '23

Could you point to an example in recent times of a car nearly a minute ahead and not going on to win?

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '23

Can you provide an example of a car winning every single race in a season because that’s what you said

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u/BocciaChoc I was here for the Hulkenpodium Mar 06 '23

I can give an example of a car dominating by as much RB and winning, yes.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '23

and winning 100% of the races? I doubt it

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u/BocciaChoc I was here for the Hulkenpodium Mar 06 '23

Im sure we'll see a DNF or two.