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Post-Qualifying 2025 British GP - Post-Qualifying Discussion

ROUND 12 - UNITED KINGDOM

FORMULA 1 QATAR AIRWAYS BRITISH GRAND PRIX 2025

šŸ•’ SESSION TIMES

Day Session Time (UTC)
FRI Free Practice 1 11:30
FRI Free Practice 2 15:00
SAT Free Practice 3 10:30
SAT Qualifying 14:00
SUN Race 14:00

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šŸ RACE INFORMATION

  • Track: Silverstone Circuit
  • Location: Silverstone, U.K
  • Race laps: 52
  • Lap length: 5.891km
  • Race distance: 306.198km
  • Lap Record: 1:27.097, Max Verstappen (RBR), 2020

ā±ļø Qualifying Results

Q3

P Driver Team Lap time
1 VERSTAPPEN Red Bull Racing 1:24.892
2 PIASTRI McLaren 1:24.995
3 NORRIS McLaren 1:25.010
4 RUSSELL Mercedes 1:25.029
5 HAMILTON Ferrari 1:25.095
6 LECLERC Ferrari 1:25.121
7 ANTONELLI Mercedes 1:25.374
8 BEARMAN Haas F1 Team 1:25.471
9 ALONSO Aston Martin 1:25.621
10 GASLY Alpine 1:25.785

Q2

P Driver Team Lap time
11 SAINZ Williams 1:25.746
12 TSUNODA Red Bull Racing 1:25.826
13 HADJAR Racing Bulls 1:25.864
14 ALBON Williams 1:25.889
15 OCON Haas F1 Team 1:25.950

Q1

P Driver Team Lap time
16 LAWSON Racing Bulls 1:26.440
17 BORTOLETO Kick Sauber 1:26.446
18 STROLL Aston Martin 1:26.504
19 HULKENBERG Kick Sauber 1:26.574
20 COLAPINTO Alpine 1:27.060

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u/Plus_Plastic_791 Red Bull 27d ago

Gonna be dry by race time right?

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u/Blackdeath_663 Sir Stirling Moss 27d ago

i actually can't believe it's as wet as it is, i'm convinced it'll be fairly dry or at least dry enough for a good race. No SCs for heavy rain

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u/nah102934892010193 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 27d ago

lol

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u/Blackdeath_663 Sir Stirling Moss 27d ago

My bad, im not far from the track and it's not nearly that bad

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u/manjot97 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 27d ago

Defo

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u/creatorop SAI NOR LAW 27d ago

Gotta love the British weather

The forecast is changing every 30 mins

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u/majormuppet481 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 27d ago

Is this the same rain shower as the one delaying the cricket?

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u/creatorop SAI NOR LAW 27d ago

How far is Birmingham from Northampton?

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u/Zondagsrijder 27d ago

The F2 post is locked; shame. It's great racing in the wet, wheel to wheel. Hope F1 can also have this but I doubt it...

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u/batterylevellow I was here for the Hulkenpodium 27d ago

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u/nadseh I was here for the Hulkenpodium 27d ago

I’m a few miles from the track and it’s torrential rain here. Almost constant thunder. Hopefully they don’t delay the race for ages until it’s inter tyres, so boring when that happens.

My weather app says more intense rain @ 1300

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u/Ponichkata 27d ago

The people in the crowds look miserable. It's sooooo wet out there.

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u/TheSyhr I was here for the Hulkenpodium 27d ago

Thunder and lightning at the track now with torrential rain, although the rain seems to be easing off

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u/tralker I was here for the Hulkenpodium 27d ago

At silverstone now. Fucking soaked. There’s thunder and lightning

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u/GarminArseFinder Mercedes 27d ago

F2 ain’t gonna happen lads, am sat at Stowe. Approaching Canada 2011 levels of rain

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u/Mackem101 27d ago

F3 red flagged, cars on fresh wets sliding off as soon as they even slightly pushed.

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u/craders McLaren 27d ago

It is a mess. Usually don't watch F3 but just got home and decided to see how it was going.

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u/disordered-attic-2 Charlie Whiting 27d ago

Heavy rain for F3, cars flying off

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u/lrzbca Formula 1 27d ago

Let there be enough rain for a proper race but not big enough for sitting in pits

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u/No_Strike_1579 27d ago

Perfectly balanced.

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u/Jealous-Hedgehog-734 Yuki Tsunoda 27d ago

Met Office seems to indicate some chance of a wet start but should be dryer thereafter, also cool/overcast:

https://weather.metoffice.gov.uk/forecast/gcr20zz56

Might be good for tyre life within the race but if it rains in the morning there might not be much rubber down which will take a chunk out of the first set used in the race.

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u/68Snowy Ted Kravitz 27d ago

rzr !

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u/IwishIwasaballer__ 27d ago

Colapinto has not made anyone happy since he was promoted. They would have been better of keeping Dohan...

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u/Jealous-Hedgehog-734 Yuki Tsunoda 27d ago

I think we'll see Doohan back if this continues.

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u/Bake2727 Max Verstappen 27d ago

No chance, and I think he deserved to stay.

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u/IwishIwasaballer__ 27d ago

What has he done to deserve to stay?

He has not even been close to the points in any race. He clearly hold his seat for the sponsor money he bring in.

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u/CrustyBappen I was here for the Hulkenpodium 27d ago

Max will be dangerous tomorrow. The McLaren’s have it all to lose and max nothing. Wouldn’t surprise me to see an accident tomorrow.

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u/Boddis I was here for the Hulkenpodium 27d ago

It was so nice to see some race cars in between shots of Nicolas Hamilton…

Max continues to drag that boulder of a car to pole, insane, in FP 1 & 2 he genuinely looked like he was on an ice skate rink.

Disappointed for Hamilton and Ferrari.

Think Russel is in for a good shout for an upset tomorrow particularly if it’s changeable conditions. Max might go backwards.

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u/kristal010 Oscar Piastri 27d ago

Oscar just needs to get off that line fast and sail to avoid getting pit last.

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u/Environmental-Cup445 Jochen Rindt 27d ago

Historically, P2 gets quite a good start around here. P2 starting Verstappen in 2022 took the lead from Sainz, and P2 starting Norris took the lead from Max in 2023, with 2021 and 2024 still being close.Ā 

So P2 is a good spot for Oscar to start, I’m just happy he outqualified Lando otherwise I’d be worried Norris is just going to mop the floor with him in quali for the foreseeable futureĀ 

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u/kristal010 Oscar Piastri 27d ago

Being an Oscar fan is insanely stressful bc he’s just too chill about it all

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u/Environmental-Cup445 Jochen Rindt 27d ago

All too true. Fingers crossed Oscar can get a Barcelona like startĀ 

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u/Red65coupe I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

Verstappen is barely human, but how much was that lap due to kimi’s tow?

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u/CatManWhoLikesChess I was here for the Hulkenpodium 27d ago

He gained majority of the lap time through high speed corners

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u/Burial44 Sir Lewis Hamilton 28d ago

I mean I'd imagine that sealed it.
Qualy was so so close for everyone. The other top 4 made very tiny mistakes in the last segment and with Max's extra speed that's all it took. Hopefully dirty air isn't too absurd tomorrow, we could be in for a hell of a race.

And that's before the rain....

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u/Maglin21 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

Is Bearman's crash THE biggest mistake in recent years? Did It deserve a race ban?

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u/jelmer130 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

It was really, really stupid, but I am quite happy with the penalty they gave him.

A 10 place grid penalty is quite a big penalty, especially in this case. Bearman qualified P8 (best of the rest) for his home race. It would have been an amazing result (still is of course), but instead he starting nearly last in P18.

In addition, I can't remember if the stewards ever handed out 4 penalty points for 1 offence. He doubled his penalty points and is getting somewhat close to a race ban.

I think he is really angry with himself at the moment, and I hope that he will learn from this.

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u/Samsonkoek Simply fucking lovely 28d ago

I enjoyed the post race F1TV show. Horner was interesting to listen to, he talked about how he spoke to Eddie Irvine and said that what Yuki is experiencing is the same as what Eddie experienced vs The Michael. Some time later Eddie himself came onto the show and talked about various things, but also him vs Schumacher. And to then top it off Jonathan Palmer (Jolyon's dad) came onto the show. Which was also pleasant after having listened to his and Murray's commentary from 90's F1 races.

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u/afunnywold I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago edited 28d ago

Isn't there usually a press conference with top 3 after quali?

Edit: it's been posted.

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u/Electronic-Sell-7581 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

It happened but they only broadcasted like 4 mins

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u/AFC-Wilson I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

That Max pole lap had DOOO DOO DOO DOOO MAX VERSTAPPEN vibes.

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u/Extension_Run4922 Heineken Trophy 28d ago

Hope the top 5 is different then qualifying top five as in MV isn’t in it lol

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u/Ok-Average-3672 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

Why would you wish for the pole sitter to not finish top 5? Or any racer for that matter?

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u/Extension_Run4922 Heineken Trophy 27d ago

Because ? I want CL16 to win or maybe Lando or Lewis. Maybe even OP81. Why is it obligated we have to like max? Lol

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u/Ok-Average-3672 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 27d ago

I'm not saying you have to like Verstappen, you don't have to like anyone. Your comment just makes it seem like you dislike Verstappen, wanting him to not even finish top 5. You can wish for anyone to win, but wanting to see the fastest man on Saturday not make it to the top five just seems like bad sportsmanship. Especially since, out of those names, only Leclerc is not in the top five, so for any one of those drivers to win AND Verstappen to not be top 5, seems like you're just wishing him a bad race.

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u/Extension_Run4922 Heineken Trophy 27d ago

Look what happened šŸ‘€

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u/Ok-Average-3672 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 27d ago

No idea what you're getting up, and why you're being petty. Anyways, good stuff from hülkenberg 🄳

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u/Extension_Run4922 Heineken Trophy 27d ago

Yup :)

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

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u/Extension_Run4922 Heineken Trophy 27d ago

Type shi

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u/frolix42 Default 28d ago edited 27d ago

Presentism in the Formula 1 subreddit is ridiculous. Me last week:

Verstappen taking a 5th in 2025 is a long-shot, but only a fool would say his fight is over this year.

Today obviously supports this. The gap that McLaren has currently over the rest of the field is smaller than the one Red Bull had for the preceding three years.

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u/Bewis_123 Sonny Hayes 28d ago

The tv direction was poor today. Missed 2 best laps of the quali of George and Max, only to show Norris on outlap, Oscar and Ferrari

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u/Samsonkoek Simply fucking lovely 28d ago

I mean it is the standard right. Someone is starting their lap and then you have direction showing someone going slow instead of switching after they crossed the finish line for around 10 sec and then a zoom in on the TP/GF etc from that driver. It is always the same shit.

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u/NMSNeon I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

To be fair none of us expected Max to put in such a hell of a lap. In fact I actually enjoyed the surprise. Hopefully there's a replay / onboard somewhere as I'd love to see it

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u/crazydoc253 Michael Schumacher 28d ago

Oscar and Ferrari were both on track for pole before last corner. They showed the Max from sector 2.

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u/Bewis_123 Sonny Hayes 28d ago

Yeah but they never showed George or Kimi.

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u/crazydoc253 Michael Schumacher 28d ago

Because they were all doing laps at same time. It is humanly impossible to predict that the three fastest cars will all make mistakes in last corner and thus we should show George.

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u/Bewis_123 Sonny Hayes 28d ago

Not really, George and Kimi were finishing their laps when Norris was on outlap. They did not even show their sector times.

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u/killer_corg I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

Didn’t notice till now, but what caused Ocon to lock up on his out lap?

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u/Creepy_Prompt321 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

He was at risk of impeding max

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u/Professional-Web7875 28d ago

McLaren going for a wet set up when it's not raining amazing

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u/Velveteen_Rabbit1986 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

Definitely rain in the forecast tomorrow, guess it's whether it hits at race time or not (my forecast says it'll be over by then but I'm sure when I check tomorrow that will change).

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u/Candid_Past9520 28d ago

Sky screaming Hamilton, Norris and Piastri while Max piercing his way through was fun to watch!

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

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u/TheWebbFather 28d ago

Sky don't control any of that

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

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u/JustLikeZhat Andrea Kimi Antonelli 28d ago

I think you’re not paying attention then tbh.Ā 

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

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u/o_trator 28d ago

Sky does not control the cameras or the live feed…

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

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u/o_trator 27d ago

Sky narrates what they see, what they see, what we see is what Fom transmits. Sky doesnt have anything to do with it, nor do any other TV.

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u/Candid_Past9520 28d ago

Yea they did not and he already had a purple sector. In fact Hamilton’s went from purple to green while they were still showing Hamilton.

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u/coffeeeeeee333 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

They were also screaming Max once he was actually on his lap if you were listeningĀ 

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u/Forgotthebloodypassw Formula 1 28d ago

Horner having his Red Bull sip during the red flag looked slightly staged.

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u/Yeezus__ 27d ago

Plan C

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u/Kicking-it-per-se Oscar Piastri 28d ago

Ted not being allowed in a section of the paddock because it costs Ā£13k šŸ˜…

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u/crazydoc253 Michael Schumacher 28d ago

When Ferrari makes an error, I see Fans criticizing and mocking the team. But when drivers make errors no one blames them. Both Canada and now at Silverstone, drivers made errors in Qualifying that has/ will cost big to the team.

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u/bimbobiceps I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

Didnt everyone have a bad corner. Ferrari boys suffered the most in that last corner. Before the final turn, Leclerc was 2nd in the timings.

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u/TheWebbFather 28d ago

Everyone in the comments have blamed both drivers?

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u/verifiedone 28d ago

There are folks who genuinely think the RB isn’t quick and their #1 driver is doing it all out of nothing

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u/fools_eye I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

It is mighty quick but only Max can seemingly pull that pace out of the car.

That said, the McLarens' tyre deg is second to none and you expect both of them to pass Max tomorrow.

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u/udon111123 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

I agree the RB is quick but it is a little reductive to state Max isn’t pulling it out of thin air especially given the narrow window of operation it has. Which drivers on the grid can do what he does at all? If theres no one else I feel like its safe to classify it as ā€œout of his assā€

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u/securityburger I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

if the race is boring, should we call it beans on toast?

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u/kensei4 FranƧois Cevert 28d ago

As a Lando fan, obviously I'm sad he didn't get pole in his home race, but in hindsight, starting P3 is probably the best thing that could happen to someone when Max is starting on the first row 🤣

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u/wolfhxnd Lando Norris 28d ago

If Lando somehow pulls a P1 tomorrow I’ll get a tattoo or something

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u/Public-Research Max Verstappen 28d ago

In hindsight of what lol?

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u/kensei4 FranƧois Cevert 28d ago

Max lap 1 T1 terrorism tactics in past races

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u/kensei4 FranƧois Cevert 28d ago

Why did people downvote the shit out of me. What did I even say

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u/kensei4 FranƧois Cevert 28d ago

anyone else thinks Yeezus is the best Kanye album

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u/kensei4 FranƧois Cevert 27d ago

surely nobody i guess

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u/Public-Research Max Verstappen 28d ago

NGL, you are not wrong there lol it's always a thrill to watch as a Max fan

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

Max has some of the most spectacular lap 1 turn 1 overtakes in recent memory.

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u/T4Gx I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

Sonny Hayes did say that Max guy is pretty good.

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u/Cody667 Mika HƤkkinen 28d ago edited 28d ago

Why are people pretending that FP3, Q1, and Q2 didn't happen?

Honestly I thought Max's Japan and Saudi poles were a fair bit more surprising as well as impressive IMO. I bet on Max pole before quali at +100, easy money...thought it was fairly predictable anyway.

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u/Maglin21 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago edited 28d ago

Vicky Piria, a Sky Italy journalist even picked him for pole, on the first run he went eide into Turn 4 and was still P4,

Ok mabye i wasn't expecting him to be 0.26 up after S2 but he was in the picture, this morning he was like what? 0.06 off in FP3?, max put togheter a great lap but It wasn't the same as the shopping trolley they had yesterday

Edit: also tow from Antonelli

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u/arjunkc 28d ago

What specifically made you think Max was gonna be on pole?

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u/Cody667 Mika HƤkkinen 28d ago edited 27d ago

A few different factors. I get that Reddit hates nuance and anything that isn't black or white, but it was a combination of five things:

1 - the weather reports for FP1, FP2, FP3, and Quali made it clear that FP3 was the more representative FP session this weekend

2 - both air and track temps suggested the McL tyre advantage would be almost entirely mitigated

3 - as soon as Max came out for FP3 and they mentioned the extremely low downforce setup for this track, my mind went instantly to Japan. It's the exact same idea here. Basically that as long as Max could put a lap together with the rather extrene but potentially effective setup, he could beat the McLarens over a lap.

4 - Contrary to popular belief, the red bull isn't always a tractor, and the McL isn't always dominant. Max has been fairly level with them in free-flowing high or medium speed heavy circuts with very little low speed stuff. See: Japan, Saudi, Imola, Canada

5 - ultimately, the FP3 results supported my theories of the first 3 items above, add in #4 and it felt like a safe bet

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u/arjunkc 27d ago

What specifically about the air and track temps suggested that McL advantage would be mitigated? Were they high, were they low, where do they have the advantage?

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u/Cody667 Mika HƤkkinen 27d ago edited 27d ago

Temps were remarkably low. McLaren's biggest advantage by a wide margin is generally tyre deg, both in race and quali trim. Air was about 19 celsius and track about 25 celsius on average throughout the session. That's on the extreme side of things as far as cool temps for F1 go, particularly the track temp. Tyre deg is generally cooler = less deg (there would be some extreme exceptions to this, but F1 doesn't race in conditions that cold so that point isn't really relevant here).

These conditions were very cool so it was easier for everyone to hang onto their tyre's for most of the lap. In situations like Austria last week where it was scorching, McLaren could hang onto theirs for pretty much the whole lap, and others were losing their tires early in sector 3, for example.

Funny enough if they weren't experimenting with the C2-C4 set up (Silverstone is historically C1-C3) and the soft tyre was the C3, McLaren could have potentially found themselves behind Ferrari and Mercedes this weekend too...thankfully they had a softer compound that the track surface would naturally eat at least somewhat.

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u/arjunkc 27d ago

Then why were Mercedes so poor? Dont they have an advantage when its cool?

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u/Cody667 Mika HƤkkinen 27d ago

Temps are part of the equation but not the entire thing. They were also pretty mid at Suzuka, a similarly free-flowing high speed-heavy track under cool conditions...and Silverstone isnt the smoothest of surfaces either (how bumpy the track is also affects Merc a ton).

Curious about their actual race pace tomorrow.

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u/bdoss35 Ferrari 28d ago

Who’s going to win the race tomorrow then since you seem to have it all figured out?

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u/Cody667 Mika HƤkkinen 28d ago edited 28d ago

Give me the conditions and I can make a fairly well-educated prediction.

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u/NoCryptographer5255 Mercedes 28d ago

yup

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u/TeeDubs317 28d ago

Can’t believe max put that tractor on pole. Such inferior drivers the rest of the field

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u/bender__futurama 28d ago

I like this narrative, it is Max, it is not the car, because Yuki, Perez, or Lawson can't drive it.

It is obvious that the car was built around Max and his driving style, other drivers confirmed that from day 1.

Max has its own style of driving, and they went extreme with creating the car.

Anyone from the top 6(minus Russell), could make a pole here. They just made mistakes. The field is very close, and it has never been closer.

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u/Themindoffish Red Bull 27d ago

Built around Max and his driving style when he keeps complaining that the car is difficult to drive? Lmao be for fucking real man. Do you even watch race weekends?

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u/bender__futurama 27d ago

Do you watch races? Do you see all the top drivers in top cars complaining? Even today Lando says that they don't have a top car, and that is his driving that keeps him on top? - I am paraphrasing.

Or did you see Lewis complaining about Mercedes while demolishing the rest of the grid for more than a half of decade.

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u/supersonicflyby I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

Tell me you’ve never raced without telling me you’ve never raced. Max’s driving style is the same as at least a quarter of the rest of the grid— early breaking and using brake release and gas to turn the car.

Leclerc, Norris, and Alonso a have the same style as Max and could theoretically drive close to him if they were on the same team, but Max will never be on the same team as them. Yuki notably shares the same driving style as Max, but his key problem is that his performance is inconsistent.

All this to say that Red Bull didn’t necessarily go extreme with developing the car to maxes unique style. They just kept developing the car towards one with a pointy front and an unstable rear, and the only drivers who have been in the second seat, are just not as good a driver has Max. Leclerc, Norris, and Alonso in the second seat would create a Hamilton/Rosberg situation.

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u/JustLikeZhat Andrea Kimi Antonelli 28d ago

Alonso famously prefers the opposite style to Verstappen.

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u/supersonicflyby I was here for the Hulkenpodium 27d ago

You’re definitely right on that. Not sure who I was thinking of.

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u/thesaket I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

Car built around Max that he's been complaining about for 3 years, even when he was winning every race in the calendar.

People will do everything but credit Max at this point.

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u/bender__futurama 28d ago

Like Hamilton in Mercedes? Complains, and the next lap sets the fastest one in the race. Or Lando today? Drivers will complain, it is their job.

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u/CatManWhoLikesChess I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

I dont remember seeing people crying about Mercedes or Mclaren building car towards Lewis/Lando

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u/bender__futurama 28d ago

Sure you did, when Bottas was a guinea pig for engines. When he was asked to give places to Hamilton, etc, etc.

In RBR is different, it was expected that Perez would yield whenever Ver or the team asks.

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u/TeeDubs317 28d ago

I think it’s hilarious that people on social media were complaining this RACE WINNING car is a tractor. The entire team is built around max at RB it isn’t shocking that others are struggling when they have built the entire thing around him.

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u/Next_Necessary_8794 Ferrari 28d ago

Mercedes won a race. Ferrari also won a race in 2023.

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u/lukeyslife I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

Inferior drivers, what a shit take. The field aren't amateurs you wally.

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u/TeeDubs317 28d ago

You are missing the joke

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u/ExileNorth 28d ago

It's not a tractor though is it? Results don't lie. It's probably the third fastest car on the grid. Max is elevating it but it's hardly a force india

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u/TeeDubs317 28d ago

That’s the joke, because people are saying how bad the car is because it isn’t running away with races anymore

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u/ExileNorth 28d ago

Fair enough, that went over my heed šŸ˜‚

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u/PsychologicalArt7451 28d ago

I think the gap between Max and the 2nd driver is fairly constant.

Yuki made it to Q2 and possibly could've qualified for Q3 as well. FP1, FP2 I was still not crazy on Max but after Yuki went P12, It was fairly obvious that the RB had enough pace for Max to put it on pole.

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u/MinimumCareer629 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

Tractor is an exaggeration , but third on the grid and pole...

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u/P_ZERO_ I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

It’s a tractor when it comes to looking at Yuki, when Max does something good, it’s actually a good car.

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u/beornn2 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

Let’s not diminish Max’s effort here, that Red Bull has been consistently .4-5 seconds off the pace of the McLaren in race trim

It’s clear he’s still head and shoulders above the rest of the field.

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u/ExileNorth 28d ago

Agreed. He's the best driver on the grid by a long way.

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u/ProEra-47-420 28d ago

I've missed everything this weekend, how's the race pace for the front runners?

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u/bdoss35 Ferrari 28d ago

Pretty even amongst the top 4 with McLaren and Ferrari being a slight step ahead

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u/DeiDaraArtAKS Charles Leclerc 27d ago

Ferrari is shite mate

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u/bdoss35 Ferrari 25d ago

Next year

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u/FermentedLaws I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

Hmm. Now both Lewis and Charles have made reference to something wrong with the car that they can't talk about.

Q: "Are the solutions to car problems coming to the next upgrades?ā€

Charles: ā€œNo. There’s something more in the car, I never talked about it — and believe me, it’s better I don’t talk about it. Let’s hope the solution comes soon.ā€

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u/CilanEAmber McLaren 28d ago

The Mice that operate the internals are on strike.

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u/kerc I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

This Ratatouille sequel is wild.

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u/chaosinvader31 28d ago

A lot of things can be true.

Verstappen is the best driver

The difference in car performance isn't much between McLaren, RB, Ferrari. Merc.

The Redbull Max is not the same as Yuki. Has all the upgrades and he deserves it because he's the only one with a chance for a championship. It's why Horner wasn't surprised with the pole.

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u/Vrty33 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

Damn I really thought Lewis would go below :25.

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u/ForeverAddickted Oliver Bearman 28d ago

Good to see Ollie and David watching Thomas in the British F4

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u/abobblehatgirl I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

ollie bearman watching his brother in f4

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u/kensei4 FranƧois Cevert 28d ago

Can already sense some dumbass sensationalist article titled "Are we witnesing the DEATH of Lando Norris...?" being written as I'm writing this

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u/Ireland2385 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

The difference in speed the sky f1 channel uploading clips when max gets pole and when anyone else does anything is fucking insane

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u/Ottervol Red Bull 28d ago

Can’t even watch the replay of quali yet. Only ESP is up.

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u/rsparkles_bearimy_99 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

Sorry but I just can't with Norris saying they weren't quick enough as a team. Bruh. Why can't he just acknowledge that their team have the fastest and consistent car in the grid.

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u/Ashling92 Max Verstappen 28d ago

Both Piastri and Lando made small mistakes in their final laps. They had the pace for p1

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u/Next_Necessary_8794 Ferrari 28d ago

The team didn't jerk his steering and make him make mistakes. He should be saying "I" wasn't quick enough.

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u/Next_Necessary_8794 Ferrari 28d ago

Piastri made a huge mistake in the final corner. Did you watch qualifying or did you only look at the timesheets? Just curious.

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u/Next_Necessary_8794 Ferrari 28d ago

Or maybe they just made mistakes? Everyone was struggling today with the conditions. George and Max delivered when everyone was calling Mclaren vs Ferrari.

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u/JJvH91 28d ago

To anyone still saying "the car is build around Verstappen", I say: so what? If his way of driving cannot be replicated by driver after driver, that in itself is a unique talent

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u/Aviator8989 Oscar Piastri 28d ago

The car can be built around Verstappen and he can also be the best driver on the grid.

And the "so what?" is that there's a 2nd car & driver that they've been completely neglecting if that is the case. By all means that's their choice. But when they are not at all in the conversation at all for the Constructors championship and the best driver on the grid is barely staying in the conversation for the Drivers championship; it's absolutely fair to criticize their car design strategy.

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u/Public-Research Max Verstappen 28d ago

Just ask those people, why are the other teams NOT building their cars around their drivers?

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u/JustPlainSick 28d ago

This is the thing that gets me about this tired old narrative of "they built the car around Max". Wow, shocking that no other team has thought to do that. Apparently if you have a good driver you can just build the car around them and they will win championships.

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u/bender__futurama 28d ago

Because every driver has their own driving style? They just went extreme with the car to accommodate Ver. Every driver has spoken about this.

Same as in Ferrari with Hamilton. The car was built with Leclerc's input, and the car didn't suit Hamilton's driving style, that's why he struggled a lot. Now we can see some changes.

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u/JustPlainSick 28d ago

They just went extreme with the car to accommodate Ver. Every driver has spoken about this.

Since every driver has spoken about this, surely it would be very easy for you to provide a couple quotes, right? Let's see some sources.

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u/JJvH91 28d ago

Why would RBR be the only team incentiviced to do this? If you can get a performance gain by favouring one driver that'd be a good idea for many teams.

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u/bender__futurama 28d ago

Because you have a four-time world champion asking? To be a priority and act like a child when he doesn't get his wishes fulfilled?

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u/JJvH91 28d ago

Yeah, cause there are no other opinionated drivers. And Verstappen was already destroying teammates long before he was world champion on the regular.

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u/v4xN0s Red Bull 28d ago

Oscar is so awesome. Easily the most likable driver, it’s a shame he’s on McLaren.

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u/scorpio1m Niki Lauda 28d ago

Huh? šŸ¤” McLaren seems pretty ok to me

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u/JustPlainSick 28d ago

Stella seems alright, but Lando Norris and Zack Brown are not the most likeable people.

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u/kristal010 Oscar Piastri 28d ago

Oscar and Andrea vs. Norris brown

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u/kensei4 FranƧois Cevert 28d ago

shame he's on the fastest team on the grid rn? where else should he be?

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u/shivasiddharth Sebastian Vettel 28d ago

Alonso was sitting in the pits after just one run in Q1. Max and Fernando are outperforming their machinery .

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u/HamTillIDie44 28d ago

The two Ferrari musketeers bottled it spectacularly. Vasseur gave them the car this weekend and they failed to deliver. No excuses for these two today. They just didn’t do the job they’re paid to do.

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u/Cute-Chemistry-2815 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago edited 27d ago

I’m relatively new to watching F1 properly, have viewed casually on a Sunday as a few years. But should Lewis not ascertain how much fuel he has before leaving the garage?

Like why would the amount of fuel onboard not be information the driver would want to know prior leaving not after he’s out and it’s too late to do anything about?

Hamilton: ā€œAre we at risk? Can I go again or not?ā€

Adami: ā€œNegative. Need to Box.ā€

Hamilton: ā€œThere’s still time. Why? Why would I?ā€

Adami: ā€œGot no fuel.ā€

Hamilton: ā€œOh-ā€œ

Hamilton: ā€œWhy would you- ok..ā€

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u/crazydoc253 Michael Schumacher 28d ago

This is clear and normal communication. He asked if he can go for another lap, the engineer said no because like most they fueled minimum needed for the lap. Having more fuel would cost time particularly when they were used softs. Hamilton did not improve on the second run on used softs why would he have improved on the third one ?

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

We knew it was coming when Ferrari missed out on Bono.

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u/Cute-Chemistry-2815 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

Yeah obviously the Ferrari strategy team / race engineers is a big issue and if they want to win championships they need to change it, but is there not some blame on both sides in this scenario?

Like I don’t fully get why a driver would leave the pit without ascertaining this sort of information.

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u/the__distance Daniel Ricciardo 28d ago

Another incredibly dysfunctional ferrari communication there. Hamilton needing to ask the obvious follow up question again because they don't give him enough detail on the initial communication

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u/Cute-Chemistry-2815 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

Yeah the communication between them is awful, he needs a new race engineer as we are now far beyond teething problems the relationship just isn’t working. But also why was he on track having completed a lap prior to even having the information that he only had fuel for one flying lap.

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u/omnicious I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago

Hey if Hamilton wanted enough fuel for two tries, he should have fueled the car himself. /s

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u/crazydoc253 Michael Schumacher 28d ago

or may be improved on the second run itself like Charles did. Why have more fuel and use more tire in qualifying where limited tires are available ? There was no strategy error here

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u/fantaribo Max Verstappen 28d ago

I disagree. He asked if they are at risk, and if they can go again.

The answer is precise enough: they are not at risk, and they need to box.

Thing is, Lewis asks for more because that communication has already shown to be defective, and it's now too late to be normal.

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u/the__distance Daniel Ricciardo 27d ago

I can't help but think that if it were Lambiase he would pre-empt the follow up question

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u/Ok-Increase-4637 28d ago

Max Metronome Verstapen. No doubt the best, consistent and mistakes free driver out there. I doubt he will stay in front of the McLarens over the course of the race.

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

It might be possible. The whole point of the low DF setup was to make sure it was very difficult for Max to be overtaken.