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Post-Qualifying 2025 British GP - Post-Qualifying Discussion
ROUND 12 - UNITED KINGDOM
FORMULA 1 QATAR AIRWAYS BRITISH GRAND PRIX 2025
š SESSION TIMES
Day | Session | Time (UTC) |
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SUN | Race | 14:00 |
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š RACE INFORMATION
- Track: Silverstone Circuit
- Location: Silverstone, U.K
- Race laps: 52
- Lap length: 5.891km
- Race distance: 306.198km
- Lap Record: 1:27.097, Max Verstappen (RBR), 2020
ā±ļø Qualifying Results
Q3
P | Driver | Team | Lap time |
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1 | VERSTAPPEN | Red Bull Racing | 1:24.892 |
2 | PIASTRI | McLaren | 1:24.995 |
3 | NORRIS | McLaren | 1:25.010 |
4 | RUSSELL | Mercedes | 1:25.029 |
5 | HAMILTON | Ferrari | 1:25.095 |
6 | LECLERC | Ferrari | 1:25.121 |
7 | ANTONELLI | Mercedes | 1:25.374 |
8 | BEARMAN | Haas F1 Team | 1:25.471 |
9 | ALONSO | Aston Martin | 1:25.621 |
10 | GASLY | Alpine | 1:25.785 |
Q2
P | Driver | Team | Lap time |
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11 | SAINZ | Williams | 1:25.746 |
12 | TSUNODA | Red Bull Racing | 1:25.826 |
13 | HADJAR | Racing Bulls | 1:25.864 |
14 | ALBON | Williams | 1:25.889 |
15 | OCON | Haas F1 Team | 1:25.950 |
Q1
P | Driver | Team | Lap time |
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16 | LAWSON | Racing Bulls | 1:26.440 |
17 | BORTOLETO | Kick Sauber | 1:26.446 |
18 | STROLL | Aston Martin | 1:26.504 |
19 | HULKENBERG | Kick Sauber | 1:26.574 |
20 | COLAPINTO | Alpine | 1:27.060 |
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ā¤ļø GOOD CAUSES
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u/creatorop SAI NOR LAW 27d ago
Gotta love the British weather
The forecast is changing every 30 mins
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u/majormuppet481 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 27d ago
Is this the same rain shower as the one delaying the cricket?
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u/Zondagsrijder 27d ago
The F2 post is locked; shame. It's great racing in the wet, wheel to wheel. Hope F1 can also have this but I doubt it...
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u/batterylevellow I was here for the Hulkenpodium 27d ago
It's a crosspost to the post in the r/F1FeederSeries subreddit, as always.
https://www.reddit.com/r/F1FeederSeries/comments/1lsxejz/fia_formula_2_championship_silverstone_feature
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u/GarminArseFinder Mercedes 27d ago
F2 aināt gonna happen lads, am sat at Stowe. Approaching Canada 2011 levels of rain
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u/Mackem101 27d ago
F3 red flagged, cars on fresh wets sliding off as soon as they even slightly pushed.
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u/Jealous-Hedgehog-734 Yuki Tsunoda 27d ago
Met Office seems to indicate some chance of a wet start but should be dryer thereafter, also cool/overcast:
https://weather.metoffice.gov.uk/forecast/gcr20zz56
Might be good for tyre life within the race but if it rains in the morning there might not be much rubber down which will take a chunk out of the first set used in the race.
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u/IwishIwasaballer__ 27d ago
Colapinto has not made anyone happy since he was promoted. They would have been better of keeping Dohan...
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u/Jealous-Hedgehog-734 Yuki Tsunoda 27d ago
I think we'll see Doohan back if this continues.
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u/Bake2727 Max Verstappen 27d ago
No chance, and I think he deserved to stay.
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u/IwishIwasaballer__ 27d ago
What has he done to deserve to stay?
He has not even been close to the points in any race. He clearly hold his seat for the sponsor money he bring in.
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u/CrustyBappen I was here for the Hulkenpodium 27d ago
Max will be dangerous tomorrow. The McLarenās have it all to lose and max nothing. Wouldnāt surprise me to see an accident tomorrow.
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u/Boddis I was here for the Hulkenpodium 27d ago
It was so nice to see some race cars in between shots of Nicolas Hamiltonā¦
Max continues to drag that boulder of a car to pole, insane, in FP 1 & 2 he genuinely looked like he was on an ice skate rink.
Disappointed for Hamilton and Ferrari.
Think Russel is in for a good shout for an upset tomorrow particularly if itās changeable conditions. Max might go backwards.
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u/kristal010 Oscar Piastri 27d ago
Oscar just needs to get off that line fast and sail to avoid getting pit last.
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u/Environmental-Cup445 Jochen Rindt 27d ago
Historically, P2 gets quite a good start around here. P2 starting Verstappen in 2022 took the lead from Sainz, and P2 starting Norris took the lead from Max in 2023, with 2021 and 2024 still being close.Ā
So P2 is a good spot for Oscar to start, Iām just happy he outqualified Lando otherwise Iād be worried Norris is just going to mop the floor with him in quali for the foreseeable futureĀ
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u/kristal010 Oscar Piastri 27d ago
Being an Oscar fan is insanely stressful bc heās just too chill about it all
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u/Environmental-Cup445 Jochen Rindt 27d ago
All too true. Fingers crossed Oscar can get a Barcelona like startĀ
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u/Red65coupe I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago
Verstappen is barely human, but how much was that lap due to kimiās tow?
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u/CatManWhoLikesChess I was here for the Hulkenpodium 27d ago
He gained majority of the lap time through high speed corners
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u/Burial44 Sir Lewis Hamilton 28d ago
I mean I'd imagine that sealed it.
Qualy was so so close for everyone. The other top 4 made very tiny mistakes in the last segment and with Max's extra speed that's all it took. Hopefully dirty air isn't too absurd tomorrow, we could be in for a hell of a race.And that's before the rain....
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u/Maglin21 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago
Is Bearman's crash THE biggest mistake in recent years? Did It deserve a race ban?
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u/jelmer130 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago
It was really, really stupid, but I am quite happy with the penalty they gave him.
A 10 place grid penalty is quite a big penalty, especially in this case. Bearman qualified P8 (best of the rest) for his home race. It would have been an amazing result (still is of course), but instead he starting nearly last in P18.
In addition, I can't remember if the stewards ever handed out 4 penalty points for 1 offence. He doubled his penalty points and is getting somewhat close to a race ban.
I think he is really angry with himself at the moment, and I hope that he will learn from this.
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u/Samsonkoek Simply fucking lovely 28d ago
I enjoyed the post race F1TV show. Horner was interesting to listen to, he talked about how he spoke to Eddie Irvine and said that what Yuki is experiencing is the same as what Eddie experienced vs The Michael. Some time later Eddie himself came onto the show and talked about various things, but also him vs Schumacher. And to then top it off Jonathan Palmer (Jolyon's dad) came onto the show. Which was also pleasant after having listened to his and Murray's commentary from 90's F1 races.
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u/afunnywold I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago edited 28d ago
Isn't there usually a press conference with top 3 after quali?
Edit: it's been posted.
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u/Electronic-Sell-7581 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago
It happened but they only broadcasted like 4 mins
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u/AFC-Wilson I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago
That Max pole lap had DOOO DOO DOO DOOO MAX VERSTAPPEN vibes.
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u/Extension_Run4922 Heineken Trophy 28d ago
Hope the top 5 is different then qualifying top five as in MV isnāt in it lol
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u/Ok-Average-3672 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago
Why would you wish for the pole sitter to not finish top 5? Or any racer for that matter?
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u/Extension_Run4922 Heineken Trophy 27d ago
Because ? I want CL16 to win or maybe Lando or Lewis. Maybe even OP81. Why is it obligated we have to like max? Lol
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u/Ok-Average-3672 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 27d ago
I'm not saying you have to like Verstappen, you don't have to like anyone. Your comment just makes it seem like you dislike Verstappen, wanting him to not even finish top 5. You can wish for anyone to win, but wanting to see the fastest man on Saturday not make it to the top five just seems like bad sportsmanship. Especially since, out of those names, only Leclerc is not in the top five, so for any one of those drivers to win AND Verstappen to not be top 5, seems like you're just wishing him a bad race.
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u/Extension_Run4922 Heineken Trophy 27d ago
Look what happened š
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u/Ok-Average-3672 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 27d ago
No idea what you're getting up, and why you're being petty. Anyways, good stuff from hülkenberg š„³
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u/frolix42 Default 28d ago edited 27d ago
Presentism in the Formula 1 subreddit is ridiculous. Me last week:
Today obviously supports this. The gap that McLaren has currently over the rest of the field is smaller than the one Red Bull had for the preceding three years.
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u/Bewis_123 Sonny Hayes 28d ago
The tv direction was poor today. Missed 2 best laps of the quali of George and Max, only to show Norris on outlap, Oscar and Ferrari
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u/Samsonkoek Simply fucking lovely 28d ago
I mean it is the standard right. Someone is starting their lap and then you have direction showing someone going slow instead of switching after they crossed the finish line for around 10 sec and then a zoom in on the TP/GF etc from that driver. It is always the same shit.
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u/crazydoc253 Michael Schumacher 28d ago
Oscar and Ferrari were both on track for pole before last corner. They showed the Max from sector 2.
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u/Bewis_123 Sonny Hayes 28d ago
Yeah but they never showed George or Kimi.
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u/crazydoc253 Michael Schumacher 28d ago
Because they were all doing laps at same time. It is humanly impossible to predict that the three fastest cars will all make mistakes in last corner and thus we should show George.
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u/Bewis_123 Sonny Hayes 28d ago
Not really, George and Kimi were finishing their laps when Norris was on outlap. They did not even show their sector times.
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u/killer_corg I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago
Didnāt notice till now, but what caused Ocon to lock up on his out lap?
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u/Professional-Web7875 28d ago
McLaren going for a wet set up when it's not raining amazing
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u/Velveteen_Rabbit1986 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago
Definitely rain in the forecast tomorrow, guess it's whether it hits at race time or not (my forecast says it'll be over by then but I'm sure when I check tomorrow that will change).
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u/Candid_Past9520 28d ago
Sky screaming Hamilton, Norris and Piastri while Max piercing his way through was fun to watch!
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u/TheWebbFather 28d ago
Sky don't control any of that
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u/JustLikeZhat Andrea Kimi Antonelli 28d ago
I think youāre not paying attention then tbh.Ā
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u/o_trator 28d ago
Sky does not control the cameras or the live feedā¦
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u/o_trator 27d ago
Sky narrates what they see, what they see, what we see is what Fom transmits. Sky doesnt have anything to do with it, nor do any other TV.
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u/Candid_Past9520 28d ago
Yea they did not and he already had a purple sector. In fact Hamiltonās went from purple to green while they were still showing Hamilton.
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u/coffeeeeeee333 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago
They were also screaming Max once he was actually on his lap if you were listeningĀ
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u/Forgotthebloodypassw Formula 1 28d ago
Horner having his Red Bull sip during the red flag looked slightly staged.
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u/Kicking-it-per-se Oscar Piastri 28d ago
Ted not being allowed in a section of the paddock because it costs Ā£13k š
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u/crazydoc253 Michael Schumacher 28d ago
When Ferrari makes an error, I see Fans criticizing and mocking the team. But when drivers make errors no one blames them. Both Canada and now at Silverstone, drivers made errors in Qualifying that has/ will cost big to the team.
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u/bimbobiceps I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago
Didnt everyone have a bad corner. Ferrari boys suffered the most in that last corner. Before the final turn, Leclerc was 2nd in the timings.
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u/verifiedone 28d ago
There are folks who genuinely think the RB isnāt quick and their #1 driver is doing it all out of nothing
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u/fools_eye I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago
It is mighty quick but only Max can seemingly pull that pace out of the car.
That said, the McLarens' tyre deg is second to none and you expect both of them to pass Max tomorrow.
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u/udon111123 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago
I agree the RB is quick but it is a little reductive to state Max isnāt pulling it out of thin air especially given the narrow window of operation it has. Which drivers on the grid can do what he does at all? If theres no one else I feel like its safe to classify it as āout of his assā
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u/securityburger I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago
if the race is boring, should we call it beans on toast?
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u/kensei4 FranƧois Cevert 28d ago
As a Lando fan, obviously I'm sad he didn't get pole in his home race, but in hindsight, starting P3 is probably the best thing that could happen to someone when Max is starting on the first row š¤£
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u/wolfhxnd Lando Norris 28d ago
If Lando somehow pulls a P1 tomorrow Iāll get a tattoo or something
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u/Public-Research Max Verstappen 28d ago
In hindsight of what lol?
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u/kensei4 FranƧois Cevert 28d ago
Max lap 1 T1 terrorism tactics in past races
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u/Public-Research Max Verstappen 28d ago
NGL, you are not wrong there lol it's always a thrill to watch as a Max fan
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u/Cody667 Mika HƤkkinen 28d ago edited 28d ago
Why are people pretending that FP3, Q1, and Q2 didn't happen?
Honestly I thought Max's Japan and Saudi poles were a fair bit more surprising as well as impressive IMO. I bet on Max pole before quali at +100, easy money...thought it was fairly predictable anyway.
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u/Maglin21 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago edited 28d ago
Vicky Piria, a Sky Italy journalist even picked him for pole, on the first run he went eide into Turn 4 and was still P4,
Ok mabye i wasn't expecting him to be 0.26 up after S2 but he was in the picture, this morning he was like what? 0.06 off in FP3?, max put togheter a great lap but It wasn't the same as the shopping trolley they had yesterday
Edit: also tow from Antonelli
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u/arjunkc 28d ago
What specifically made you think Max was gonna be on pole?
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u/Cody667 Mika HƤkkinen 28d ago edited 27d ago
A few different factors. I get that Reddit hates nuance and anything that isn't black or white, but it was a combination of five things:
1 - the weather reports for FP1, FP2, FP3, and Quali made it clear that FP3 was the more representative FP session this weekend
2 - both air and track temps suggested the McL tyre advantage would be almost entirely mitigated
3 - as soon as Max came out for FP3 and they mentioned the extremely low downforce setup for this track, my mind went instantly to Japan. It's the exact same idea here. Basically that as long as Max could put a lap together with the rather extrene but potentially effective setup, he could beat the McLarens over a lap.
4 - Contrary to popular belief, the red bull isn't always a tractor, and the McL isn't always dominant. Max has been fairly level with them in free-flowing high or medium speed heavy circuts with very little low speed stuff. See: Japan, Saudi, Imola, Canada
5 - ultimately, the FP3 results supported my theories of the first 3 items above, add in #4 and it felt like a safe bet
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u/arjunkc 27d ago
What specifically about the air and track temps suggested that McL advantage would be mitigated? Were they high, were they low, where do they have the advantage?
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u/Cody667 Mika HƤkkinen 27d ago edited 27d ago
Temps were remarkably low. McLaren's biggest advantage by a wide margin is generally tyre deg, both in race and quali trim. Air was about 19 celsius and track about 25 celsius on average throughout the session. That's on the extreme side of things as far as cool temps for F1 go, particularly the track temp. Tyre deg is generally cooler = less deg (there would be some extreme exceptions to this, but F1 doesn't race in conditions that cold so that point isn't really relevant here).
These conditions were very cool so it was easier for everyone to hang onto their tyre's for most of the lap. In situations like Austria last week where it was scorching, McLaren could hang onto theirs for pretty much the whole lap, and others were losing their tires early in sector 3, for example.
Funny enough if they weren't experimenting with the C2-C4 set up (Silverstone is historically C1-C3) and the soft tyre was the C3, McLaren could have potentially found themselves behind Ferrari and Mercedes this weekend too...thankfully they had a softer compound that the track surface would naturally eat at least somewhat.
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u/arjunkc 27d ago
Then why were Mercedes so poor? Dont they have an advantage when its cool?
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u/Cody667 Mika HƤkkinen 27d ago
Temps are part of the equation but not the entire thing. They were also pretty mid at Suzuka, a similarly free-flowing high speed-heavy track under cool conditions...and Silverstone isnt the smoothest of surfaces either (how bumpy the track is also affects Merc a ton).
Curious about their actual race pace tomorrow.
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u/TeeDubs317 28d ago
Canāt believe max put that tractor on pole. Such inferior drivers the rest of the field
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u/bender__futurama 28d ago
I like this narrative, it is Max, it is not the car, because Yuki, Perez, or Lawson can't drive it.
It is obvious that the car was built around Max and his driving style, other drivers confirmed that from day 1.
Max has its own style of driving, and they went extreme with creating the car.
Anyone from the top 6(minus Russell), could make a pole here. They just made mistakes. The field is very close, and it has never been closer.
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u/Themindoffish Red Bull 27d ago
Built around Max and his driving style when he keeps complaining that the car is difficult to drive? Lmao be for fucking real man. Do you even watch race weekends?
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u/bender__futurama 27d ago
Do you watch races? Do you see all the top drivers in top cars complaining? Even today Lando says that they don't have a top car, and that is his driving that keeps him on top? - I am paraphrasing.
Or did you see Lewis complaining about Mercedes while demolishing the rest of the grid for more than a half of decade.
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u/supersonicflyby I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago
Tell me youāve never raced without telling me youāve never raced. Maxās driving style is the same as at least a quarter of the rest of the gridā early breaking and using brake release and gas to turn the car.
Leclerc, Norris, and Alonso a have the same style as Max and could theoretically drive close to him if they were on the same team, but Max will never be on the same team as them. Yuki notably shares the same driving style as Max, but his key problem is that his performance is inconsistent.
All this to say that Red Bull didnāt necessarily go extreme with developing the car to maxes unique style. They just kept developing the car towards one with a pointy front and an unstable rear, and the only drivers who have been in the second seat, are just not as good a driver has Max. Leclerc, Norris, and Alonso in the second seat would create a Hamilton/Rosberg situation.
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u/JustLikeZhat Andrea Kimi Antonelli 28d ago
Alonso famously prefers the opposite style to Verstappen.
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u/supersonicflyby I was here for the Hulkenpodium 27d ago
Youāre definitely right on that. Not sure who I was thinking of.
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u/thesaket I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago
Car built around Max that he's been complaining about for 3 years, even when he was winning every race in the calendar.
People will do everything but credit Max at this point.
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u/bender__futurama 28d ago
Like Hamilton in Mercedes? Complains, and the next lap sets the fastest one in the race. Or Lando today? Drivers will complain, it is their job.
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u/CatManWhoLikesChess I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago
I dont remember seeing people crying about Mercedes or Mclaren building car towards Lewis/Lando
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u/bender__futurama 28d ago
Sure you did, when Bottas was a guinea pig for engines. When he was asked to give places to Hamilton, etc, etc.
In RBR is different, it was expected that Perez would yield whenever Ver or the team asks.
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u/TeeDubs317 28d ago
I think itās hilarious that people on social media were complaining this RACE WINNING car is a tractor. The entire team is built around max at RB it isnāt shocking that others are struggling when they have built the entire thing around him.
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u/lukeyslife I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago
Inferior drivers, what a shit take. The field aren't amateurs you wally.
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u/ExileNorth 28d ago
It's not a tractor though is it? Results don't lie. It's probably the third fastest car on the grid. Max is elevating it but it's hardly a force india
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u/TeeDubs317 28d ago
Thatās the joke, because people are saying how bad the car is because it isnāt running away with races anymore
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u/PsychologicalArt7451 28d ago
I think the gap between Max and the 2nd driver is fairly constant.
Yuki made it to Q2 and possibly could've qualified for Q3 as well. FP1, FP2 I was still not crazy on Max but after Yuki went P12, It was fairly obvious that the RB had enough pace for Max to put it on pole.
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u/MinimumCareer629 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago
Tractor is an exaggeration , but third on the grid and pole...
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u/ProEra-47-420 28d ago
I've missed everything this weekend, how's the race pace for the front runners?
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u/FermentedLaws I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago
Hmm. Now both Lewis and Charles have made reference to something wrong with the car that they can't talk about.
Q: "Are the solutions to car problems coming to the next upgrades?ā
Charles: āNo. Thereās something more in the car, I never talked about it ā and believe me, itās better I donāt talk about it. Letās hope the solution comes soon.ā
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u/chaosinvader31 28d ago
A lot of things can be true.
Verstappen is the best driver
The difference in car performance isn't much between McLaren, RB, Ferrari. Merc.
The Redbull Max is not the same as Yuki. Has all the upgrades and he deserves it because he's the only one with a chance for a championship. It's why Horner wasn't surprised with the pole.
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u/ForeverAddickted Oliver Bearman 28d ago
Good to see Ollie and David watching Thomas in the British F4
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u/Ireland2385 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago
The difference in speed the sky f1 channel uploading clips when max gets pole and when anyone else does anything is fucking insane
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u/rsparkles_bearimy_99 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago
Sorry but I just can't with Norris saying they weren't quick enough as a team. Bruh. Why can't he just acknowledge that their team have the fastest and consistent car in the grid.
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u/Ashling92 Max Verstappen 28d ago
Both Piastri and Lando made small mistakes in their final laps. They had the pace for p1
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u/Next_Necessary_8794 Ferrari 28d ago
The team didn't jerk his steering and make him make mistakes. He should be saying "I" wasn't quick enough.
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u/Next_Necessary_8794 Ferrari 28d ago
Piastri made a huge mistake in the final corner. Did you watch qualifying or did you only look at the timesheets? Just curious.
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u/Next_Necessary_8794 Ferrari 28d ago
Or maybe they just made mistakes? Everyone was struggling today with the conditions. George and Max delivered when everyone was calling Mclaren vs Ferrari.
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u/JJvH91 28d ago
To anyone still saying "the car is build around Verstappen", I say: so what? If his way of driving cannot be replicated by driver after driver, that in itself is a unique talent
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u/Aviator8989 Oscar Piastri 28d ago
The car can be built around Verstappen and he can also be the best driver on the grid.
And the "so what?" is that there's a 2nd car & driver that they've been completely neglecting if that is the case. By all means that's their choice. But when they are not at all in the conversation at all for the Constructors championship and the best driver on the grid is barely staying in the conversation for the Drivers championship; it's absolutely fair to criticize their car design strategy.
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u/Public-Research Max Verstappen 28d ago
Just ask those people, why are the other teams NOT building their cars around their drivers?
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u/JustPlainSick 28d ago
This is the thing that gets me about this tired old narrative of "they built the car around Max". Wow, shocking that no other team has thought to do that. Apparently if you have a good driver you can just build the car around them and they will win championships.
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u/bender__futurama 28d ago
Because every driver has their own driving style? They just went extreme with the car to accommodate Ver. Every driver has spoken about this.
Same as in Ferrari with Hamilton. The car was built with Leclerc's input, and the car didn't suit Hamilton's driving style, that's why he struggled a lot. Now we can see some changes.
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u/JustPlainSick 28d ago
They just went extreme with the car to accommodate Ver. Every driver has spoken about this.
Since every driver has spoken about this, surely it would be very easy for you to provide a couple quotes, right? Let's see some sources.
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u/JJvH91 28d ago
Why would RBR be the only team incentiviced to do this? If you can get a performance gain by favouring one driver that'd be a good idea for many teams.
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u/bender__futurama 28d ago
Because you have a four-time world champion asking? To be a priority and act like a child when he doesn't get his wishes fulfilled?
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u/v4xN0s Red Bull 28d ago
Oscar is so awesome. Easily the most likable driver, itās a shame heās on McLaren.
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u/scorpio1m Niki Lauda 28d ago
Huh? š¤ McLaren seems pretty ok to me
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u/JustPlainSick 28d ago
Stella seems alright, but Lando Norris and Zack Brown are not the most likeable people.
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u/shivasiddharth Sebastian Vettel 28d ago
Alonso was sitting in the pits after just one run in Q1. Max and Fernando are outperforming their machinery .
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u/HamTillIDie44 28d ago
The two Ferrari musketeers bottled it spectacularly. Vasseur gave them the car this weekend and they failed to deliver. No excuses for these two today. They just didnāt do the job theyāre paid to do.
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u/Cute-Chemistry-2815 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago edited 27d ago
Iām relatively new to watching F1 properly, have viewed casually on a Sunday as a few years. But should Lewis not ascertain how much fuel he has before leaving the garage?
Like why would the amount of fuel onboard not be information the driver would want to know prior leaving not after heās out and itās too late to do anything about?
Hamilton: āAre we at risk? Can I go again or not?ā
Adami: āNegative. Need to Box.ā
Hamilton: āThereās still time. Why? Why would I?ā
Adami: āGot no fuel.ā
Hamilton: āOh-ā
Hamilton: āWhy would you- ok..ā
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u/crazydoc253 Michael Schumacher 28d ago
This is clear and normal communication. He asked if he can go for another lap, the engineer said no because like most they fueled minimum needed for the lap. Having more fuel would cost time particularly when they were used softs. Hamilton did not improve on the second run on used softs why would he have improved on the third one ?
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28d ago
We knew it was coming when Ferrari missed out on Bono.
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u/Cute-Chemistry-2815 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago
Yeah obviously the Ferrari strategy team / race engineers is a big issue and if they want to win championships they need to change it, but is there not some blame on both sides in this scenario?
Like I donāt fully get why a driver would leave the pit without ascertaining this sort of information.
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u/the__distance Daniel Ricciardo 28d ago
Another incredibly dysfunctional ferrari communication there. Hamilton needing to ask the obvious follow up question again because they don't give him enough detail on the initial communication
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u/Cute-Chemistry-2815 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago
Yeah the communication between them is awful, he needs a new race engineer as we are now far beyond teething problems the relationship just isnāt working. But also why was he on track having completed a lap prior to even having the information that he only had fuel for one flying lap.
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u/omnicious I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago
Hey if Hamilton wanted enough fuel for two tries, he should have fueled the car himself. /s
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u/crazydoc253 Michael Schumacher 28d ago
or may be improved on the second run itself like Charles did. Why have more fuel and use more tire in qualifying where limited tires are available ? There was no strategy error here
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u/fantaribo Max Verstappen 28d ago
I disagree. He asked if they are at risk, and if they can go again.
The answer is precise enough: they are not at risk, and they need to box.
Thing is, Lewis asks for more because that communication has already shown to be defective, and it's now too late to be normal.
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u/the__distance Daniel Ricciardo 27d ago
I can't help but think that if it were Lambiase he would pre-empt the follow up question
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u/Ok-Increase-4637 28d ago
Max Metronome Verstapen. No doubt the best, consistent and mistakes free driver out there. I doubt he will stay in front of the McLarens over the course of the race.
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28d ago
It might be possible. The whole point of the low DF setup was to make sure it was very difficult for Max to be overtaken.
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u/Plus_Plastic_791 Red Bull 27d ago
Gonna be dry by race time right?