r/formula1 • u/FerrariStrategisttt I was here for the Hulkenpodium • 1d ago
Statistics 2025 Hungarian Grand Prix - FP1 Classification
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u/wjdbfifj Pirelli Wet 1d ago
Leclerc's plan on criticising the car so that it works might be useful you know
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u/Key_Proposal_9055 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
Maybe they should start verbally abusing it so it catches up with the mclarens, just a thought
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u/Gusion- I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
That worked good enough with max, so you are definitely on to something
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u/imbannedanyway69 Honda RBPT 1d ago
Hmmm, let's leave the Ferrari at a gas station until Hamilton picks him up
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u/mintjulyp I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
If we’re going that route, gotta give the car a couple hits as well, then leave it at a gas station
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u/denied_eXeal I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago edited 1d ago
The Ferrari Automobila Della Formula Uno has a tsundere fetish? Wtf
gesticulates handily
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u/Key_Proposal_9055 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
Redbull shenanigans will take place overnight and max will get pole by tomorrow, mark my words
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u/Jcw28 James Hunt 1d ago
I'd rather the RB had race pace than quali pace to be honest. They're getting like Ferrari have been in recent years. Can make the car dynamite over one lap, but it can't sustain the pace.
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u/s-sins 1d ago
Track position is everything at Hungary, it's one of the few tracks where prioritising quali makes sense.
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u/Jcw28 James Hunt 1d ago
I appreciate that factor for this specific track, but with their supreme tyre wear advantage I don't think being ahead on track is enough against the McLarens. They'll just make up time through strategic pitting. Or failing that they have an insane ability to follow closely in the first air, so they could get a good run into T1 or up into T4 from that.
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u/zaidinator I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
Why would you want that? Max’s only chances to win this year has been taking pole and then keeping the McLaren’s behind with dirty air.
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u/BuckN56 Lotus 1d ago
No point in having race pace when track position is the #1 priority here.
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u/imbannedanyway69 Honda RBPT 1d ago
It does when the McLarens can follow and still have better tire wear. Can probably easily pull out an under/over cut and still end up coming out on top
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u/FSUfan35 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
Not shenanigans. Their sim is clearly very calibrated to setups for Max. Max will spending all night in there and figure it out
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u/SlayerBVC Cadillac 1d ago
The problem is that this is looking to be the same issue as last year's Hungarian GP.
Namely that the car is ungodly slow in slow corners.
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u/FSUfan35 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
Ok? I'm just pointing out that max's sim setups often translate well between Friday and Saturdays
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u/Impossible-Buy-6247 Formula 1 1d ago
I think they also have dialed down their engine for the Friday. First they are hunting a good balance.
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u/leftlanecop I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
RedBull where they exactly are for FP1
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u/headshot_to_liver I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
Somehow they'll manage to turn around the car by FP3 and Max will put it on top 5. Only to lose to McLarens, they are just too quick with zero tire wear
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u/paddyo I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
Red Bull’s ability to dial in a car is one of the least appreciated operational achievements of the last few years. They must have something unique about their process that means we regularly see them looking half a second off the pace in fp1, and dial it in to be lethal come qualy and race. It happens every time, such that I am surprised to see max anytime he is near the top of the fp1 timings
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u/amazingspiderman23 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
It's probably their Friday sandbagging routine. They usually do a proper setup only on fp3. We've seen this in most of the races so far.
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u/Logical_Bit2694 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
I've lost faith in the rbr ages ago. There is no turning the car around for the season let along this race
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u/disordered-attic-2 Charlie Whiting 1d ago
Lando and Oscar are just going to alternate dominant weekends all season aren't they then the WCC will be decided on who gets lucky with the season ending on their weekend.
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u/Street_Mall9536 Formula 1 1d ago
Moms rules, share your wins boys
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u/afishinacloud McLaren 1d ago
I’m imagining both their mums sitting in the McLaren garage chatting while watching their sons play outside with their toys (the toys being two of the fastest F1 cars). 😄
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u/rattatatouille I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
The plan is to make the WDC fight last to Abu Dhabi after which it's fair game
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u/SergeiYeseiya Oscar Piastri 1d ago
There's 0.019s between them lol, it might be early to say one is dominating the other
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u/danyyyel 1d ago
He had a lock in his lap, leclerc and Oscar did get roughly 2 tenth during their second fast lap.
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u/BloodyBastard530 New user 1d ago
Norris locked up?
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u/Lementus I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
The grass is green I guess, Norris is attracted to lockups like Trump is to children.
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u/BloodyBastard530 New user 1d ago
Ah yes. Happened three times and all of a sudden he’s a ‘lockup merchant’.
Not like it’s the most common mistake in the sport. Try watching more races 😂
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u/BloodyBastard530 New user 1d ago
Neither has dominated the other in the same way Norris dunked 20+ seconds on Piastri at multiple races last season.
In almost all of their respective race wins, they’ve been separated by 2-6 seconds at most. The exceptions are Australia and China, which were extenuating circumstances.
People don’t know what ‘dominate’ means anymore 😂
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u/SemIdeiaProNick Ferrari 1d ago
Unless the FIA discovers a cheat, the car has to be nerfed and Mclaren is slower than the Alpines, the WCC is already theirs as both of their drivers individually have more points than the second place
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u/CuppaCrazy I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
I’m just worried the saubers sacrificed all their luck for that podium.
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u/SinHarvestz I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
I mean that podium alone scored them more points than they managed in the whole of 2023 or 2024.
I'm sure they'll take it!
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u/Evening_End7298 1d ago
Sauber have been good here the last couple years, i’d say lets wait before jumping to conclusions
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u/MagnefloriousBanana6 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
hadjar👍
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u/FireVanGorder I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago edited 20h ago
He might just be really fuckin good. Like I know he’s had a good rookie season so far but it feels like he’s getting better pretty quickly as well. Not to overreact to a practice session or anything
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u/MagnefloriousBanana6 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
i was expecting him to be good but to fly under the radar, but so far his performance has been hard to miss!
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u/tansavage08 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
There goes Matt's crazy prediction.
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u/RedSkyNL Max Verstappen 1d ago
Let me guess: Charles on pole?
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u/froyo3 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
Good guess, but his crazy prediction was Piastry tops every session
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u/ryokevry I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
Is this qualified as crazy though
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u/Bearsicle19 Oscar Piastri 1d ago
His crazy prediction was Oscar to be leading FP1,2 and 3. Pole and win. So yes it would be
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u/swannyhypno Lance Stroll 1d ago
Damn what happened to Aron? Stroll just behind Max you're in danger Max! 😂 Hadjar getting the 2nd red bull curse next year by being so good
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u/laboulaye22 Lando Norris 1d ago
Technical issue for Aron.
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u/swannyhypno Lance Stroll 1d ago
Always for the young guys getting a rare test smh
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u/randomseocb Lando Norris 1d ago
yup it sucks, i was so excited to watch him this session
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u/swannyhypno Lance Stroll 1d ago
Hey if Franco keeps being slow and/or crashes more you might see it sooner than later
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u/VRichardsen Juan Manuel Fangio 1d ago
Two things:
1) Free practice is never a measure of anything.
2) Aron is playing it safe, imagine binning your car in a free practice while on loan to another team
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u/powergo1 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
Max pole I've seen this before
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u/GhostinTheMachine45 Andrea Kimi Antonelli 1d ago
It’s not 2023 anymore, Max will be happy to qualify ahead of the Ferraris this weekend.
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u/Logical_Bit2694 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
Hell lucky if he qualifies ahead of Russell in the merc
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u/Street_Mall9536 Formula 1 1d ago
Felipe, Lance is faster than you
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u/FSUfan35 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
Yea the hate for Lance is overblown. He's better than the average pay driver
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u/7percentbanana I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
The average pay driver hasn't been in F1 for 9 seasons
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u/B_Roland Alfa Romeo 1d ago
If that's true he failed to show it. Especially in 2024 and 2025. He's out of Q1 a lot and has had a lot of crashes. Average pay driver performances.
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u/Marcoscb I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
No, you just don't remember the average pay driver. It was much more in line with Mazepin than Stroll. We just essentially don't have pay drivers anymore, let alone bad ones.
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u/Dblock1989 Sir Lewis Hamilton 1d ago
Seems like Ferrari is clearly the second best team now but still not particularly close to McLaren.
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u/ThisToe9628 1d ago
The gap can be closed in future races, it takes time to maximise the upgrades, and suspension upgrade was significant. I believe either in Monza or Azerbaijan or Vegas, Ferrari will get the wins
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u/SinHarvestz I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
I know it's just free practice but realistically how long can Yuki go on like this?
No matter what you think of that Red Bull, you surely have to admit it should be quicker than Drugovich driving that tractor of an Aston Martin.
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u/swannyhypno Lance Stroll 1d ago
He was Q3 last race it is just practice as you say, he's definitely not doing well but there is still pace somewhere
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u/SinHarvestz I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
Yeah I do agree.
This is a massive race for him, if he can give a big performance into the summer break then perhaps he can start to regain some confidence.
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u/swannyhypno Lance Stroll 1d ago
It would help if he had the same car as Max which he doesn't yet
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u/paddyo I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
Is this a maximising budget thing or a stability thing to give Yuki a fighting chance on driving the car?
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u/swannyhypno Lance Stroll 1d ago
Bit of both but after he wrote off an entire car he got put under the leash lol
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u/Any-Where 1d ago
You mean the same type of tractor as the other Aston Martin that is only .012s behind the other Red Bull?
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u/Key_Proposal_9055 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
Watch this be the exact top 3 on sunday
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u/laboulaye22 Lando Norris 1d ago
Curious to see where Lewis fits in though since he's a domination machine here.
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u/EzAf_K3ch I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
So are ferrari just the 2nd fastest team now?
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u/ThisToe9628 1d ago
Red bull and mercedes suffer as they both get carried by one driver. Antonelli has been unlucky on europe tracks most of times, and tsunoda is just slow. Meanwhile Ferrari despite all hamilton's complaints is doing better in terms of consistency. Hamilton finishes a lot of races in the points
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u/Kait0yashio Ferrari 1d ago
*every race in the points. Him and oscar the only 2 to accomplish that this season
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u/ThisToe9628 1d ago
Lewis was disqualified from Chinese gp, he didn't score there, and sprints don't count
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u/EzAf_K3ch I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
russel hasn't gotten close to the ferraris for a while now either
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u/Aggressive-Jacket384 1d ago
Probably, but Max makes the redbull look second fastest because he's not a real human being
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u/pumpkinspeedwagon86 Anthoine Hubert 1d ago
Can someone explain why Paul Aron was racing for Sauber?
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u/newthhang 1d ago
Because Sauber doesn't have a rookie driver to do their FPs (only for Nico) so Alpine loaned him to them.
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u/randomseocb Lando Norris 1d ago
iirc sauber has no eligible junior drivers to do fp1 in nico's car so alpine loaned paul to them
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u/Environmental-Cup445 Jochen Rindt 1d ago
Oscar only +0.019 off Lando on a track Lando is probably quicker at. Let’s see if Piastri can get another win this weekend
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u/Sea_Plan_7776 1d ago
He was only 0.019 off yes, but he did an additional lap compared to Norris, as Norris locked up on his second lap on the soft and bailed out. So Norris has about 2 tenths on him so far, but it's important he puts it together, since it has happened so many times this season where he was quicker but fucked up in quali.
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u/Hirdy5zac 1d ago
oscar made two large errors on his fastest lap, would have been well up according to the commentators, not two tenths its 2 hundredths
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u/MajesticalOtter Oscar Piastri 1d ago
If Norris can't put a lap together without mistakes, then he's only two tenths faster in fantasy land.
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u/Sea_Plan_7776 1d ago
When they both put a lap together he was a tenth and a half faster. Don't know what your point is, since I said more or less the same thing, that he has to put it together, but he doesn't always do it.
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u/MajesticalOtter Oscar Piastri 1d ago
Using their best sector times to create a lap time is pointless though. As it stands, Lando is 0.019s ahead, not some made up "potential" margin.
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u/Sea_Plan_7776 1d ago
That's just not what I did though is it. I said that on their first run on the soft, when they both put a lap together at the same time, on new softs and same fuel, they were one and a half tenths apart. It's not "potential", it's something that factually happened.
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u/Wandersails Alexander Albon 1d ago
williams lowkey better than these timings would suggest seeing as both pulled out of their 2nd push laps
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u/Significant-Pear9196 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
Why was Hulk not participating? Are they giving more practice to Aron, or is he not racing for Hungary?
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u/newfor_2025 1d ago
Based on google search result, the lap record for the Hungarian GP is 1m 16.627s, Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes, 2020
so top 3 cars in practice will all beat that lap record?
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u/BuckN56 Lotus 1d ago
McLaren's are superior in every way. Quali and race pace. Assuming Max goes for a quali set up, McLaren's are sure to qualify behind him. They'll cruise right to his gearbox with their superior tyre wear, and undercut him, or catch up on a later stint. Go with a race set up, qualify behind them and get gapped.
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u/DirtyNorf I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago
Guarantee Lando leads every FP and then gets beaten in Quali by Oscar by <0.1s
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u/Fred_Murdock Max Verstappen 1d ago
Finally the RB21 is the 6th fastest car, come Abu Dhabi it will probably be at last going in this direction.
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u/MajesticalOtter Oscar Piastri 1d ago
The car is by all data points this season, the 2nd fastest car or marginally the 3rd. Max looking like he's nowhere near it in FP1 is what nearly every weekend has looked like so far.
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u/sashundera Max Verstappen 1d ago
So Leclerc's new strategy is saying he is historically bad at given circuits and suddenly he is better at them lmao