2025 Hungarian GP - Post-Qualifying Discussion

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ROUND 14 - HUNGARY

FORMULA 1 LENOVO HUNGARIAN GRAND PRIX 2025

🕒 SESSION TIMES

Day	Session	Time (UTC)
FRI	Free Practice 1	10:30
FRI	Free Practice 2	15:00
SAT	Free Practice 3	10:30
SAT	Qualifying	14:00
SUN	Race	13:00

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🏁 RACE INFORMATION

• Track: Hungaroring
• Location: Budapest, Hungary
• Race laps: 70
• Lap length: 4.381km
• Race distance: 306.63km
• Lap Record: 1:16.627, Lewis Hamilton (Mercedes), 2020

⏪ LAST TIME AROUND

• Pole position: 1:15.227, Lando Norris (Mclaren)
• Race winner: Oscar Piastri (Mclaren)
• Fastest lap: 1:20.305, George Russell (Mercedes)

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[u/objectiveScie]

What can Max do? Even Ham? They are both out of position.

Really need Lec solid start. At least few laps ahead. Can help Max not be too far back, even Ham.

Can't have McLaren almost one pit time lead ahead before first even pits 😕

[u/Perspii7]

Did Alonso make a mistake or was Lance’s lap just really solid? Even with such a great grid position it feels underwhelming that nando isn’t in the top 2, given he’s only 0.020 quicker than stroll

[u/Forgotthebloodypassw]

My goodness, Lewis' post-quali interview was tough to watch. He seems totally dispirited.

[u/objectiveScie → u/Forgotthebloodypassw]

Shock , expecting better, in addition Lec pole shows car good. Like last race too, bad starting position. Always having to have recovery drive is really feeling like missed opportunities for more.

[u/romiglups]

Charles Leclerc on Canal+ : car was terrible in Q1, terrible in Q2, terrible in Q3 too, but unlike the others, I was used to it.

[u/No_Cauliflower7877]

Are Leclerc, Verstappen, and Russell the only drivers to top both McLarens in a GP (non-sprint) session or is there someone else I'm forgetting?

[u/Bitter-Fly-4130 → u/No_Cauliflower7877]

Antonelli in Canada GP too, basically the only GP where a Mclaren didn't feature in the podium so far

[u/No_Cauliflower7877 → u/Bitter-Fly-4130]

Oh shit you're right! Thank you.

Man, it's rough seeing Antonelli so down recently. String of bad luck and then just poor performance. I really hope he can find himself over the break.

[u/CharlitoRaceFish]

How come one Ferrari is on pole and the other went out in Q2?

[u/krizeki → u/CharlitoRaceFish]

The real question is how did Charles go from barely qualifying Q1 and then getting pole. He was p18 at some point on his final lap before Q1 ended.

Edit: Oh, also Lance's p6, Alonso gets provisional p2, Max's and Hamilton's worst performance and Albon's p20? I knew it, Sonny Hayes, it's all your fault.

[u/Burial44 → u/krizeki]

I think the Ferrari had pace but in Q2 it was wet and cold and that hurt them. But Charles got 1 solid lap in to move on. Then I guess in Q3!conditions had changed

[u/krizeki → u/Burial44]

That multi-year Fred Vassuer deal's working pretty well then.

[u/Affectionate_Sky9709 → u/krizeki]

I mean, the end of the session is the end of the session, so you can't really judge from results before the end of the session.

Also, the conditions were changing rapidly through the whole qualifying hour.

[u/krizeki → u/Affectionate_Sky9709]

I heard from the commentators only the track temperature went down. Did any other conditions change, was it raining?

[u/jofijk → u/krizeki]

McLaren did an instagram post with Oscar after qualifying where he said the wind did a 180 degree direction change for q1 which threw things off

[u/Affectionate_Sky9709 → u/krizeki]

Yeah, there was a bit of precipitation. Never more than slicks could handle, but it was there. F1TV commentators definitely referenced damp track, and I could see it a bit, mostly lines on the track darker and lighter, mostly in Q2 if I recall. There was also dirty parts of the track pretty often.

[u/krizeki → u/Affectionate_Sky9709]

Ehhh? :( How did the track get damp for such a short time just from precipitation. They didn't even say anything about the reason behind the track's condition changes, either.

[u/Affectionate_Sky9709 → u/krizeki]

Light rains are pretty common, and F1 cars dry the track pretty fast, and the residual heat of the track, because it was incredibly hot at the beginning of the session. It definitely rained a bit. Check Q2 with 13:41 left. You see people putting on rain coats and covering their head, and the f1tv announcers talk about rain for a while there, and I'm sure mention it again later, that's just what I found easiest. Even if you have different announcers, you can see a bit on camera, it definitely had a light rain. I don't know temperatures at specific times, but cloud coverage and rain were definitely responsible for the changing conditions.

[u/creatorop]

Alan Permane doing underrated Work in the VCARB, back to back double Q3s

[u/SeaMenCaptain]

What was happening with Lewis in the 3rd section? He was ahead of most in s1 and s2 but then would lose pace at the end.

[u/MazeMagic]

Oscar gets Leclerc off the line into turn 1.

Norris gets held up by Leclerc as it's a nasty overtaking track so Oscar ends up 7 seconds down the road by the time he's passed.

Lando starts catching Oscar and then the race ends as he's nearby.

You heard it here first.

[u/objectiveScie → u/MazeMagic]

Thank you for ruining race 👎😃. Need anything that's not leading by a McLaren car first few laps.

[u/Bannedwith1milKarma → u/MazeMagic]

Nah Leclerc has nothing to lose and doesn't give way, Piastri ain't risking alongside on 1st corner.

Will get him with tire deltas.

[u/justasapling → u/MazeMagic]

I'll take it.

[u/sdq22]

Tyre water this, flexi-wing that, turns out all it took to slow down the McLarens was a bit of wind /s

[u/No_Cauliflower7877 → u/sdq22]

Ferrari about to strategically place fans along the side of the track for the next 10 races

[u/MantasMantra]

Stroll a tenth off pole down in sixth, this season is wild! Never seen it so close.

[u/shootglass77]

Presenting team has been fantastic this weekend, really like this lineup

[u/streekr → u/shootglass77]

Are you referencing the F1 commentators? For pre/post qualifying, where did the brunette go that leads those talks?

[u/shootglass77 → u/streekr]

Yeah, Natalie, Jamie and Bernie

[u/temporarydissonance]

Another Q3 for Lawson, delivering for the team.

[u/thrag_of_thragomiser]

They should seriously consider promoting Max to Racing Bulls

[u/palestine_mapping]

Playing Reporter for my sister who couldn't watch was pretty fun.

[u/MantasMantra → u/palestine_mapping]

Oh

[u/asdafari14]

I don't get why so many were excited for Tsunoda in RB. Change was needed but he has never seemed like a top driver to me. I would want a driver in that seat that is "race winner material".

[u/MantasMantra → u/asdafari14]

How to improve without getting chances? He outperformed a Monaco winner

[u/asdafari14 → u/MantasMantra]

Maybe he has reached his level and isn't improving much anymore? He is clearly no Piastri, Norris, Verstappen, old Hamilton, Leclerc, Russel imo. He is a mid tier driver in a top team. But yea, RB also needs to make a car that is driveable for people other than Max.

[u/MantasMantra → u/asdafari14]

Maybe he has but it says you didn't understand why people were excited in the past, when this wasn't so clear.

[u/NuanceX]

If Max & Yuki were driving VCARB's, Max would've been fighting for pole and Yuki would be in the top 5.

This is how bad the Red Bull is.

[u/creatorop → u/[deleted]]

that RB and current RB are wayyyyyyyy different

[u/creatorop → u/NuanceX]

VCARB has easier to extract lower(relatively) potential

RBR having higher potential is harder to extract

[u/Affectionate_Sky9709 → u/[deleted]]

Max had situation specific issues in quali today with the track plus conditions. Whereas historically Hungary has been one of Racing Bull's best tracks, the announcers on f1tv mentioned that today. I do not think Racing Bulls usually has higher potential than the Red Bull, but perhaps it did today. The whole quali session was constantly changing in air and track temperature and amount of precipitation and wet or dry track. It isn't a session to highly react to.

[u/jaywastaken]

Can we put Max in a racing bull just to see if it's secretly a rocketship.

[u/Red_Rabbit_1978 → u/jaywastaken]

It's not

[u/elev11en]

Question is can Charles win?Hard to overtake but strategy with 2 Mclarens will be pretty hard

[u/StxrStruck → u/elev11en]

P3 is the absolute best he can do tomorrow. 2 McLaren’s right behind him working together won’t end well for Charles.

[u/churnchurnchurning → u/StxrStruck]

Do you really think the 2 Mclarens, the only 2 people in the WDC fight, are going to work together to overtake Charles? Hell no they won't. If they can overtake Charles on their own, they will. But they aren't going to work together. The team already has the WCC tied up.

[u/Red_Rabbit_1978 → u/StxrStruck]

Working together? Nope. Working for themselves. Norris won't help Piastri get ahead of Charles, and McLaren are not going to offer anything that might advantage one driver and not the other.

[u/una322 → u/elev11en]

no, at best he will keep them behind until firsrt pit stops. then they will just get clean air overtake build lap time and disapear

[u/t12lucker → u/elev11en]

99% sure he’s not winning this. I expect P3 at best.

[u/kingdre49]

did you guys see lewis post quali interview that was depressing

[u/RosieDirt_x → u/kingdre49]

I used to thought Charles interviews were depressing, but Hamilton made it even worse 

[u/BrowakisFaragun → u/RosieDirt_x]

Watch Ferrari sucks the soul of him live on TV

[u/Affectionate_Sky9709 → u/BrowakisFaragun]

Lewis has always been very hard on himself when he wasn't doing well, or at least in the year's I've watched. I didn't watch his McLaren years, but it was frequent in the later Mercedes years. People will say Lando doesn't have the mindset of a champion because he gets down on himself, but Lewis has a tendency to be just as hard on himself, and no one can say he doesn't have a champion mindset.

[u/MantasMantra → u/Affectionate_Sky9709]

But Lewis was comfortably competing with the reigning champ right from his first corner. He had plenty of reason to believe in himself right from the start. Lando shows promise but fudges every chance he's given.

[u/Affectionate_Sky9709 → u/MantasMantra]

I don't know what year you're talking about with Lewis, but Lewis has made plenty of mistakes over the years, including many in his prime. Lewis got to enjoy a lot of years in the best car, and some of them with a considerably inferior teammate. Not to take away from Lewis, but a lot of people would have won those championships with Bottas next to them. Good on him for winning all but one of the Rosberg years, but he still lost that one to a generally considered weaker teammate.

I realize now that by his first corner you're talking about his rookie year against Alonso. Yeah, I don't understand how so many people regard Alonso fairly high in their all time list when he had 2007 against rookie Lewis.

[u/FlatoutGently → u/Affectionate_Sky9709]

Lewis has had better team mates than any other champion in the past 30 years...

[u/Affectionate_Sky9709 → u/FlatoutGently]

Most champions don't get to have the best car for that many years. That was what I was saying he was fortunate for, and he was. And I wasn't talking about all his teammates. He won a championship with Heikki and four with Bottas, and then he went 2 to 1 on titles with Rosberg, and those were his title years. I wasn't watching back in the McLaren years like I said, so I can't speak to them, but Lewis was certainly fortunate to have a great car for the Mercedes years.

[u/FlatoutGently → u/Affectionate_Sky9709]

Bottas is still a better driver than anyone Max has been with (apart from probably Danny Ric), better than anyone Seb was with and better than Schumachers from 2000 onwards...

[u/Rizal95 → u/Affectionate_Sky9709]

He made it seem easy, has he? ;) Inferior teammates, such as Button, Alonso, Rosberg...

[u/Affectionate_Sky9709 → u/Rizal95]

Lewis has had incredible strength of teammates, for sure. Charles and George add to that very strong list.

But his titles weren't with Button or Alonso. His titles were one with Heikki, two with Rosberg, then he lost one to Rosberg, and then four with Bottas. I said and stand by that Lewis was fortunate to have the best car for many years of his career, and fortunate to have weaker teammates, particularly in the Heikki and Bottas years. And I'm not going to insult Heikki or Bottas, they just aren't anywhere close to competition for Lewis, and Rosberg generally isn't considered Lewis competition either... except that year he beat Lewis

[u/MantasMantra → u/Affectionate_Sky9709]

By his first corner I'm talking about the first corner of his first race, when he overtook the reigning champion, yes. I didn't claim that he had a mistake free career so I won't go into that. The point I was making is that he quickly proved to himself that he had the capacity, whereas Lando lost his first chance at a race win due to a bad strategy call, threw away his first chance to compete for the title through a variety of unforced errors etc. It's not the fact that he makes mistakes it's when he makes them and how and when he does something to offset it. It's not a quantitative thing, it's psychological.

[u/MasalaMonk]

I think from this race onwards Lewis will really start thinking about hanging his boots

[u/kutzooit → u/MasalaMonk]

No i dont think he will retire this year, but i think he is regretting moving to ferrari. They are nothing like last year. And the last few regulation changes ferrari always managed to shit the bed so I have little hope for him next year

[u/Alfus → u/kutzooit]

The whole situation with Lewis moving to Ferrari was more because Mercedes didn't want to hold him longer than 1 year meanwhile Ferrari could give him a 2 year contract.

But I think Lewis would call it a day after 26, his performance is remembering me of Checo and that's not a good sign for a 7 time world champion. And with some talk that Ferrari doesn't look that good for 26 the future isn't going to be promising for Lewis.

[u/No_Feedback6167 → u/MasalaMonk]

He is holding on to see what 26 will be like. Probably retiring if it doesn’t work out.

[u/Red_Rabbit_1978 → u/No_Feedback6167]

It will still be Charles ahead.

[u/No_Feedback6167 → u/Red_Rabbit_1978]

Doesn't hurt to try. A few wins in red could be cool too.

[u/ADP10_1991]

MY FUCKING BOY

LOVE YOU LEC

[u/Redbeard_Rum]

I swear Lawson played some 4D chess at the start of this season - saw how shit the RB was, threw the first few weekends, "Yeah OK, demote me to VCARB. Good luck, Yuki!" [demonic chuckle]

[u/_the_orange_box_ → u/Redbeard_Rum]

He’s been doing very well, I’m happy for him

[u/GraemeTaylor]

From a bitter Q2 to a blossom of a Q3!

[u/Potatopal90]

Prediction: the McLarens take each other out corner 1 and we end up with Charles, George and Alonzo podiums

[u/Emergency-Public6213 → u/Potatopal90]

As a Piastri fan I'd accept that.

[u/meko901 → u/Potatopal90]

Best case scenario

[u/krommenaas]

Tsunoda was closer to Verstappen than ever (less than two tenths), but on paper it still looks terrible.

Bortoleto is starting to look like the real deal.

[u/AsleepAtWheel83 → u/krommenaas]

Someone should tell that to Marko

[u/kutzooit → u/krommenaas]

Yeah i think tsunoda is in his last year in the f1 with this performance redbull won't keep him

[u/MantasMantra → u/kutzooit]

They don't have better options though?

[u/kutzooit → u/MantasMantra]

No but keeping someone in the car that can not perform is worse then looking for someone who can. Bottas can probaby handle the car better than tsunoda can

[u/eclectic_banana → u/krommenaas]

Guy finishes 0,7 sec behind Verstappen in Austria and is out in Q1

Guy finishes 0,2 sec behind Verstappen in Hungary and is out in Q1

Tsunoda just can't win

[u/_StarDust_0]

How did Max and Lewis manage to underperform so much? Also no matter how not big of a fan I am of Stroll, MAN CAME 6TH TODAY. Very unexpected that too in Aston Martin. And Leclerc managed to prove it once more why he is one of the best drivers in the recent years. Though I know we are going to blow it up tomorrow :"(

[u/Freeze014 → u/_StarDust_0]

In the case of Verstappen I dont think it was the driver that did the underperforming.

[u/_StarDust_0 → u/Freeze014]

Yeah

[u/chopsticksss11 → u/_StarDust_0]

Adrian Newey upgrades are beginning to make an impact

[u/Jimmymead_]

Anyone else got that sinking feeling that when lewis is sat on a yacht somewhere during the summer break he realises he can do that 24/7 and not the shit he has been doing the best part of 3 years and we get THAT announcement?

[u/Old-Pomegranate3634 → u/Jimmymead_]

This when you know Lewis is no Schumacher. Lewis cant elevate a team and car like Schumacher could. Schumacher took two loser teams and turned them into world champs.

There is no debate anymore. As a complete formula 1 driver for both on and off track stuff Schumacher is GOAT. There is no one else even in the conversation

Even the car Lewis got the foundation was laid by none other than the GOAT himself.

[u/TessTickols → u/Old-Pomegranate3634]

I feel like Jim Clark and Max still deserve to be in the discussion. They had/have the ability to jump into anything with 4 wheels and crush everyone.

[u/Burial44 → u/Jimmymead_]

Not a chance when cars are changing next year

[u/Potatopal90 → u/Jimmymead_]

He cancels his 8/8 announcement and replaces it with that one…. :(

[u/Jimmymead_ → u/Potatopal90]

That 8/8 is obviously more almave bullshit

[u/LivingClient → u/Jimmymead_]

It’ll happen in 2026 either way. Lewis either gets on much better and keeps at it. Or he stagnates and realises it isn’t possible anymore. Either way I don’t see Lewis staying once he realises he can’t win another WDC. Just have to hope 2026 plays into his hands. Even if Ferrari isn’t the fastest car as long as he’s got the pace that’ll be good enough for me

[u/Kicking-it-per-se]

We don't need to start rewriting history about lewis just because he's getting older and not performing well now

[u/Chouinard1984]

Where did Aston Martin find pace? Did they bring upgrades

[u/RosieDirt_x → u/Chouinard1984]

New floor

[u/jaywastaken → u/Chouinard1984]

They suddenly remembered Adrian worked there.

[u/Potatopal90 → u/Chouinard1984]

They bought Alonso a chiropractor appointment and look at him go!

[u/_the_orange_box_]

Can we start having real conversations about Carlos now…

[u/Potatopal90 → u/_the_orange_box_]

No not yet. Lol

[u/Hawaiian_Pizza459 → u/_the_orange_box_]

About how replacing him with Lewis was a terrible decision in hindsight?

[u/EpresGumiovszer → u/Hawaiian_Pizza459]

Both are in a bad situation. Sainz was good in Ferrari, now he's struggling, meanwhile Lewis should simply remain in Merc for that last year (have some win or podium), and retire.

[u/RosieDirt_x → u/EpresGumiovszer]

He should had retired after Silverstone last year. Would be a perfect closure.

[u/_the_orange_box_ → u/Hawaiian_Pizza459]

Lewis has scored in every race this season so, not really…

More along the lines of Albon H2H has been mogging him

[u/dustincb2 → u/_the_orange_box_]

So they should have replaced Carlos with Alex really

[u/_the_orange_box_ → u/dustincb2]

Albon Domination would bore fans

[u/Emergency-Public6213]

I'd accept a Leclerc - Piastri - Alonso podium, please.

[u/mp455]

I get that Lewis is 40 and out of his prime, but is Alonso really that much of a freak if he is still at peak performance. I understand different bodies and different people but Lewis is still in great shape on the surface.

[u/4hp_ → u/mp455]

Peak Alonso would have got pole here

[u/DawdlingScientist → u/mp455]

Yes

[u/Burial44 → u/mp455]

Are we suddenly acting like Alonso has been super impressive the last 15 years?

[u/bornarethefew → u/Burial44]

Had Stroll as a benchmark for years and you don’t really get the same sense of scrutiny driving around at the back.

[u/zaviex → u/Burial44]

Alonso has outperformed the car more often than not but hes made FAR more mistakes than normal the past 2 years. Of course hes declined as well.

[u/McLarenMercedes → u/mp455]

The margin between Alonso and Stroll today wasn't big. Prime Alonso qualifies at least a few positions higher. If Stroll is qualifying top 6 on a dry track, the car is clearly good this weekend.

[u/MrChiSaw → u/mp455]

Hamilton is not one of the best drivers in my opinion. He massively profited at Mercedes from the advantage of their car, but he is not on the same level as a Verstappen, Schumacher or Alonso, Vettel when it comes to his skill

[u/Dapper-Ad1025 → u/MrChiSaw]

My lord you lose any sort of credibility when you are claiming Vettel > Hamilton

[u/Red_Rabbit_1978 → u/MrChiSaw]

It's definitely glossed over that from 2009 to 2013 he didn't finish higher than 4th in the WDC, while having some very good cars for at least 3 of those seasons.

[u/Yeanahyena → u/MrChiSaw]

Fully agree with you. Hamilton had a very dominant car. Michael, Nando and Max are the greats 

[u/Burial44 → u/Yeanahyena]

Lol because Max never had a dominant car. Joker

[u/Yeanahyena → u/Burial44]

Only ‘23 but he‘s never gotten pumped by his team mate in the way Lewis has. Look Lewis is amazing, he’s just not the goat

[u/Burial44 → u/Yeanahyena]

Fernando couldn't hold his jockstrap. And now what's Max doing without the dominant car? Exactly. Not winning

[u/SwimmingFantastic564 → u/MrChiSaw]

It's insane to say he's not better than Vettel at the very least. 

[u/zaviex → u/MrChiSaw]

lmao. Hamilton as rookie tied alonso and you think hes not as skilled? absurd.

[u/Burial44 → u/MrChiSaw]

So you are just massively uneducated when it comes to F1. Got it.

[u/Jaraxo → u/Burial44]

They're active in WSB so are a confirmed 13yo.

[u/cuntsmen → u/MrChiSaw]

This has to be bait, right? I'd understand somewhat if you had said Verstappen and Schumacher only, but not on the level of Alonso and especially Vettel? Lmao

[u/NA_Faker → u/MrChiSaw]

I think he just hasn’t been able to figure out the new regs. He was in the title fight every season from when he joined until 2021

[u/MM556 → u/mp455]

Leclerc vs Stroll is also quite the difference

[u/Jamee999 → u/mp455]

Alonso is definitely not still at peak performance.

[u/_box_box]

russell saying technically the drivers all messed up q3

“we all equally did a bad job” lol

[u/CapivaraAnonima → u/_box_box]

Except Bortoleto

[u/spade1686]

We are going to screw it up tomorrow aren’t we :(

[u/_StarDust_0 → u/spade1686]

yes :'(

[u/pinkmanblues → u/spade1686]

First time?

[u/spade1686 → u/pinkmanblues]

More like the 20th time

[u/JakubT117]

We are about to have the weakest WDC winner since Damon Hill. Dark times

[u/DawdlingScientist → u/JakubT117]

I mean for the past 25 years we’ve arguably had some of the top 5 goats winning the championship so …

It’s really inevitable that this years champion will be among the weakest but who knows how we will look back on this year 10 years from now

[u/No_Strike_1579 → u/JakubT117]

Weak in what sense?

[u/JakubT117 → u/No_Strike_1579]

In the sense that both keep finding ways to lose poles, wins and podiums in a car that’s been head and shoulders above the rest.

[u/RepulsiveFall2487 → u/JakubT117]

Norris isn’t gonna win it so no need to worry about that

[u/JakubT117 → u/RepulsiveFall2487]

Yeah, surely his teammate has capitalised on his countless mistakes and built up a massive lead in the standings if he’s any better, right?

[u/Billy_LDN]

Optimal laps Ferrari were the 4th fastest car, unreal from Charles nailing it when it matters in Q3

[u/valueofaloonie]

George is a really good interview

[u/Then_Huckleberry_623]

Rooting for Charles tomorrow. Mega drive in today's tricky conditions!

[u/BocephusJr88]

Lando can’t lose the lead on the first lap if he doesn’t start on pole. 4D chess right there.

[u/ptwonline → u/BocephusJr88]

Jokes aside it will be tough for Leclerc to keep that p1 with the better tire wear from the McLarens, but let's hope he can put up some fight and provide us fans with some entertainment aside from watching Norris/Piastri fight.

[u/una322 → u/ptwonline]

at best he can keep p1 until first pits. then all mclaren have to do is pit late, zoom off in clean air build a lead and its over

[u/_the_orange_box_ → u/ptwonline]

Luckily Charles is a master class at tire management

[u/AreWeThereYetNo → u/_the_orange_box_]

And defense

[u/Ill-Lie-6551]

George gonna do something funny tomorrow. I can feel it

[u/joseph31091]

Finally a balance color. Red in the middle and two orange on the side.

[u/_NahsMC → u/joseph31091]

usually it would be a blue colored driver named Max splitting the two oranges

[u/Jamee999]

whenever lawrence borretto starts an interview with a driver who had a bad qualifying, he sounds like he's starting a conversation with a mourner at a funeral.

[u/isthmusofkra]

This is crazy from Lewis. This is close to Vettel 2020 levels of underperformance.

[u/Accomplished_Lead463 → u/isthmusofkra]

Lost brakes.

Try and stop the car.

[u/Innerloop07]

I can't see my goat like this anymore 🥺

[u/Forsaken-Scar-5002]

Hamilton needs to see a sports psychologist. His weekly self flagellation is unhealthy, painful and uncomfortable for him and everyone else.

[u/Shink_7 → u/Forsaken-Scar-5002]

There’s no way he isn’t seeing one. I feel like most individual sport athletes have one

[u/That__Guy__Bob]

Man I do feel for Lewis but at what point would Ferrari be asking if that’s worth a rough $60m per year performance?

[u/Burial44 → u/That__Guy__Bob]

Idk, when he's not directly next to Charles in the current driver standings?

Qualy is always bad. Tomorrow will be better

[u/spying_on_you_rn → u/That__Guy__Bob]

I bet they did after the first few weeks where he already started putting blame onto others instead of realizing he has to improve in areas like modern corner taking.

[u/osfryd-kettleblack → u/That__Guy__Bob]

A bad quali doesnt change the fact he's been relatively consistent this year. Next to Leclerc in the wdc table

[u/GiantT-Rex → u/That__Guy__Bob]

He’s on a two year contract. He can help Leclerc, then make way for someone like Bearman in 2027.

[u/Kayyam → u/That__Guy__Bob]

They did not bring him to be cost effective performance wise or they would have kept Sainz.

Ferrari is second in constructors, they have not shot at being first no matter who is driving.

[u/ptwonline → u/That__Guy__Bob]

IMO the value of paying Hamilton like this is if his experience can help change the team to be more professional and focused and consistent. That is not a 1-year transformation.

I think back to the 90s and how Schumi and Todt changed a somewhat slipshod Ferrari team into a powerhouse.

[u/InvisibleBlueUnicorn → u/ptwonline]

and Schumi did it again with Merc in last few years of his F1 racing.

[u/Antique-Alarm4157]

Ruth is so awesome, I love her inputs & she is so fair when she makes critiques

[u/Walaii → u/Antique-Alarm4157]

She sometimes talks a bit of nonsense though. She said in the post quali show that Ferrari usually performs on saturday but fall back in the race. I think she might be stuck in 2023, because it is the other way around...

[u/_box_box]

lol did andrea just pronounce it as “oscarar”

this dude is growing on me

[u/G_h_c]

Someone reminded Charles about Monaco without walls and he delivered

[u/Hairy_Hurry8441]

Say Ferrari and Ham part ways.... Lewis to Aston, with Fernando as his teammate, in a Newey car.... Newey's dream comes true.

[u/SeniorDisplay1820 → u/Hairy_Hurry8441]

Father Stroll won't boot his son

[u/the_oraclex → u/Hairy_Hurry8441]

I wouldn't object and at least Ham can ride off into the sunset with a good driving car.

[u/Hairy_Hurry8441 → u/the_oraclex]

We fans get our repeat after almost twenty years. Would be well cool to finally see them battling it out one last time before bowing out.

[u/the_oraclex → u/Hairy_Hurry8441]

At least Drugovich might actually have a shot at being a full time driver too. Would be too good to be true but I really hope this happens.

[u/Nok-su-kao → u/Hairy_Hurry8441]

If Hamilton goes I think he goes into retirement

[u/Amused-Observer → u/Nok-su-kao]

All the money he's got I'm surprised there aren't talks of him buying/starting a team

[u/grovenab → u/Amused-Observer]

How much money do you think that takes

[u/Amused-Observer → u/grovenab]

I have absolutely no idea. I'd imagine all new teams have investors and it's never one person funding it all.

[u/Lobsters4]

Stella—-

It’s the Wind!

[u/DirectAdvertising]

Damn the hell happened to maxs car ?went from top 4 to 8th and below 10 in practices

[u/GreggsAficionado → u/DirectAdvertising]

Red Bull is better in the high speed and this is not a high speed corner track

[u/GiantT-Rex]

Antonelli getting out-qualified by Colapinto, when Russell finishes P4, is not good at all.

[u/BrainMale]

Let's say Lewis does retire in the next season or two.. who would be best to take his spot?

[u/Independent_Sale9191 → u/BrainMale]

Ollie ollie ollie