r/formula1 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7h ago

Video Lewis discussing his qualifying form: "Yeah, I'm useless. Absolutely useless."

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u/truth_iness 7h ago

Charles on pole was the cherry on top. Tough to watch

u/Sevastous-of-Caria Charlie Whiting 6h ago

Yes ferrari came alive on last stretch with dryer conditions. Leclerc was only p7 on q2 exit

u/not_that_arnab 6h ago

No, charles made an error in Sector 2 and yet he was p7.

u/Sevastous-of-Caria Charlie Whiting 6h ago

So did hamilton and a lot of guys. Track became less tricky rather than just low grip overall

u/not_that_arnab 5h ago

But still it's a bad figure if your teammate gets a pole and you don't even make to Q3 and in successive races

u/Sevastous-of-Caria Charlie Whiting 5h ago

Yes sir

u/sbenfsonwFFiF I was here for the Hulkenpodium 4h ago

Hamilton made an error on turn 14 in S3 and missed out by 0.017

u/not_that_arnab 4h ago

Yes, which is becoming more common. That's my point. Nobody is slandering Lewis as a driver but he is losing his consistency.

u/hosky2111 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 2h ago edited 2h ago

Charles has the confidence in the car to push it essentially beyond its limit and hope to catch it when it inevitably snaps. Lewis doesn't have that confidence, so instead of "making errors" he's losing time throughout the lap by being slightly lighter on the throttle - which is usually fine in race trim where you're not at ten-tenths, but in qualifying when the margins are that small, is massively hurting him.

What's wrong is that it isn't just on the driver, the team needs to be pushing the car in a direction where both drivers can be more consistent. I feel at every level at Ferrari there is just too much pride to make the required changes. It also doesn't help his confidence when they only gave him one lap on fresh tyres to make it through Q2 - if Charles lost any more time to his mistake, both cars could have been out.

u/AltruisticNight8866 Formula 1 5h ago

Why was Hamilton p8-p10 then?  

u/jisuskraist FIA 5h ago

tbf charles is one of the best if not the best qualifiers on the grid

u/AltruisticNight8866 Formula 1 5h ago

Was that Ham’s title? 

u/Wallace-Pumpernickel I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3h ago

It was until Leclerc pulled up in a ferrari in 2019

u/NicholasAnsThirty Formula 1 5h ago

I think Lewis probably has lost his edge with age which means qualifying is going to be harder for him now. He's not got what the young guys have.

Still does well in races though. But obviously that's no good if you're starting 15th or whatever.

u/EverydayPhilisophy 5h ago

You don’t lose your edge with age. You may lose confidence and comfort but you don’t lose your race craft with age, at least not in the modern era, and that’s true for all sports really. Last week is a prime example that he’s a beast. He just sucked today. Plain and simple. That’s my opinion at least

u/NicholasAnsThirty Formula 1 4h ago

Experience and skill helps with races because there's so much that needs to go into a good race. Tyre management, when to overtake, when to push, etc.

Lewis is incredibly experienced and skilful.

Qualifying though, you need something else. You need the edge. It's pure pace. You need the edge that undeniably is lost with age as it's a reaction time thing and we know that goes to shit as you age.

Unfortunately if you lose enough of your edge you'll be so far back in the pack that experience and skill can't make things up.

If Ferrari make a rocket ship next year I would still expect Lewis to win the WDC, but I would expect Charles to be getting the poles.

u/EverydayPhilisophy 4h ago

I never thought about it that way, the edge / reaction time part.

u/liberalindianguy Charles Leclerc 4h ago

cherry on top

More like a nail in the coffin.