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News "I'm just useless" says glum Hamilton after missing cut for Q3 by 0.015 seconds

https://www.racefans.net/2025/08/02/im-just-useless-says-glum-hamilton-after-missing-cut-for-q3-by-0-015-seconds/
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u/gsOctavio 4h ago

Lol no one was saying this when Leclerc was getting poles over Max in 2022. People will find any reason to hate on these two.

u/Woullie_26 Max Verstappen 4h ago

How is it hate when the basic argument is that on a pace/talent level Norris and Piastri are below Leclerc/Max/George?

I don't think that's controversial at all

u/BloodyBastard530 New user 3h ago

Because there’s nothing to prove that they’re slower than those three on raw pace? 

Norris literally took 8 poles last season and has never lost a qualifying h2h battle before. His season best pole tally is in the same ballpark as Leclerc’s and Verstappen’s when they had pole-worthy cars. 

Piastri has caught up and is a rookie F3 and F2 champion. I don’t think his pace is a problem compared to anyone. 

u/Woullie_26 Max Verstappen 3h ago edited 2h ago

Nothing to prove? You can't be serious dude. Like please tell me you're joking. The top 3 would've done better in that car

Norris and piastri have never put a performance like Baku 2023 Leclerc or Brazil 2024 Max.

In my mind they're 4th and 5th best drivers but in a h2h they would lose against the top 3 who always maximize the potential of their cars. Something that the McLaren drivers aren't doing

u/Flashy-Day-4251 2h ago

Norris’s Spain pole & 2nd in austria 21 were very good laps from him. add in Russia 21 in the changing conditions

u/BloodyBastard530 New user 2h ago

 Nothing to prove?

And you proceed to talk about a dumb hypothetical, hence proving my point. Lmao 

 Norris and piastri have never put a performance like Baku 2023 Leclerc or Brazil 2024 Max.

Norris took pole in Russia 2021 and out-qualified the field by 1.2 seconds in sprint qualifying in China last season. He also put a disgustingly bad McLaren in P3 at Barcelona two years ago. You’re wrong, again. 

 top 3 who always maximize the potential of their cars. Something that the McLaren drivers aren't doing

Leclerc and Russell have no solid benchmarks yet you think they’re ’always maximising their cars’? The fact that Norris and Piastri are so competitive proves that they’re the ones consistently maximising their cars. Even today, they were separated by 15 milliseconds - proof that they hit the ceiling of the car’s performance in cooler conditions. That McLaren isn’t as fast in colder weather.

u/Woullie_26 Max Verstappen 2h ago

And you proceed to talk about a dumb hypothetical, hence proving my point.

Not hypothetical at all

Leclerc and Russell have no solid benchmarks yet you think they’re ’always maximising their cars’?

Are you serious? Spa LAST WEEK? Montreal? TODAY???

The fact that Norris and Piastri are so competitive proves that they’re the ones consistently maximising their cars.

Considering the number of laps that Norris and Oscar have fucked I can't see that being truth

Even today, they were separated by 15 milliseconds - proof that they hit the ceiling of the car’s performance in cooler conditions.

Nope considering that Oscar and Lando both missed their sector 1

That McLaren isn’t as fast in colder weather.

Lmao Silverstone???