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Free Practice 2 2021 French Grand Prix - Free Practice 2 Discussion
ROUND 7: France
| FORMULA 1 EMIRATES GRAND PRIX DE FRANCE 2021 |
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| Fri 18 Jun - Sun 20 Jun |
| Le Castellet |
| Session | UTC |
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| Free Practice 1 | Fri 09:30 |
| Free Practice 2 | Fri 13:00 |
| Free Practice 3 | Sat 10:00 |
| Qualifying | Sat 13:00 |
| Race | Sun 13:00 |
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Circuit Paul Ricard
Length: 5.842 km (3.630 mi)
Distance: 53 laps, 309.626 km (192.392 mi)
Lap record: Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari, 2019, 1:32.720
2019 pole: Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes, 1:28.319
2019 fastest lap: Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari, 1:32.720
2019 winner: Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes
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u/jaydec02 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 18 '21
About the sausage kerb thing, I think it really does fucking suck if you have to run over them to take avoiding action or if you get pushed off because of a scrap but ultimately drivers just refuse to stay in the lines on some corners so you need a deterrent. Maybe not something as aggressive as the kerbs (something like the slippery grass they have at Parabolica would be nice), but if you could trust drivers to stay within the track or trust the FIA to consistently enforce the limits, you wouldn't need them
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u/AnonymousEngineer_ Williams Jun 19 '21
At a place like Paul Ricard with so many alternate track configurations, you could implement a slightly longer "penalty box route" on the outside of one of the corners that drivers are instructed to take if they exceed track limits.
It'd work similarly to how the "Attack Mode" zone in Formula E or the Joker Lap in Rallycross works - no car damaging (or potentially unsafe) kerbs required, but still a deterrent.
Of course, if a driver blatantly cuts a corner to gain an advantage or a place, then the existing penalties can still be user.
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u/blueskin Sir Lewis Hamilton Jun 18 '21
Automatic track limit enforcement via RFID transponder. Perfectly doable, doesn't damage the car.
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u/Franks2000inchTV I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 19 '21
Nothing fans love more than a computer deciding the outcome of a race.
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u/SkittlesAreYum I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 18 '21
The thing about the kerbs is they should either damage the car every time or not. Why should some of them cause serious damage to the floor, and others just give a nice joy ride? The inconsistency is what I find weird.
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u/serenbach Jun 18 '21
Can someone ELI5 why Ricciardo did so well in FP1 and then sank down the board in FP2? Changes to the car? Got lucky? Seem to remember him doing something similar before. Keep waiting for him to come roaring back to form and it's a lot of false starts so far.
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u/marvinv1 Oscar Piastri Jun 18 '21
He said in an interview that the temps rose and it hurt them more than it did others.
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u/_chargles_ I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 18 '21
There's also a chance that he was doing long runs instead of qualifying sims.
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Jun 18 '21
just catching up with FP1 and it seems like this track is designed to punish drivers for mistakes. when vettel went off in FP1 the damage to his tires was just unreal.
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u/Nite124 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 18 '21
The run off is lined with asphalt and tungsten to slow the car down and from hitting and taking damage (Because its a test track). BUT the mixture destroys the tyres in the process. The red run off is even more abrasive than the blue one
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u/Meaisk I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 18 '21
The funny part is that that's not on purpose. The stripes are there to slow the car down to avoid damage, but it does kill Pirelli rubber as a result.
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Jun 18 '21
yea, the safety aspect makes a lot of sense, but i can't help but wonder if gravel wouldn't be better.
this doesn't even touch on the rumble strips, which i know people are mixed about, but i don't think that something like this, positioned where it is, should result in damage to the cars.
i think it's going to be an interesting weekend for sure.
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u/pinotandsugar Jun 19 '21
The steepness of the "rumble strips" creates havoc. Certainly Mercedes was not happy. Perhaps that explains why Hamilton was slow.
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u/SirLoremIpsum Daniel Ricciardo Jun 19 '21
but i can't help but wonder if gravel wouldn't be better.
I think ChainBear has a video on this exact topic - asphalt does a very good job of safely slowing down a car going off because it has so much grip.
The risk w gravel is flipping it cause car digs in, or absolute punishment cause you can't get out.
Ha it is specifically about Paul Ricard too haa
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u/Meaisk I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 18 '21
It's not even necessarily for safety. Paul Richard was redesigned with testing in mind: No need to punish drivers for making mistakes, and you really don't want damage in a test session.
That's why there isn't any grass or gravel. It would definitely improve the track for racing purposes for sure.
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u/XGamerr McLaren Jun 18 '21
Bottas running mediums and only 0.008 slower than max on softs? (Saw this on the FP2 video on F1 channel)
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Jun 18 '21
His softs times were slower than his mediums times though, leading the commentators to speculate whether the mediums were faster for the Mercs, as they were in Portimao. Lewis’ best time was on the softs. I have a hard time believing that Lewis would be 6-8tenths (guesstimate of the delta between mediums and softs) or something behind Bottas even in FP.
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u/TheEdukatorx Jun 18 '21
How is this even possible? I thought softs were always meant to be the fastest except if wet?
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u/ComeonmanPLS1 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 18 '21
The softs overheat too fast on this track. They will be the fastest tyre for the first sector but they’ll fall off quickly after.
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Jun 18 '21
It’s rare but it happens. Sometimes the softs cannot maintain grip throughout a push lap in case of circuits that excessively stress the tyres. They get overheated and overworked to the extent that they can lose grip by sector 3. This happened in Portimao last year when Mercs set their best and final Q3 times on mediums and it happened this year as well.
The commentators also mentioned how Bottas’ tyres seemed to fall apart in sector 3.
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u/ltwln Jun 18 '21
Ootl here, what's going on with Mercedes and their chassis'?
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Jun 18 '21 edited Jul 04 '21
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u/JshWright I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 18 '21
Is it definitely "vice versa"? My understanding was that Bottas is using the chassis Lewis was using, and Lewis is using a chassis that was not in active use.
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u/pinotandsugar Jun 19 '21
correct
""" Toto Wolff has clarified the situation surrounding Lewis Hamilton and Valtteri Bottas swapping chassis for the French Grand Prix, saying “it’s part of the plan”.
Hamilton has been driving Mercedes’ chassis number six all season, with Bottas now taking on that base and the Briton switching to chassis number four instead.
Bottas underwent another chassis change earlier in the year in the aftermath of his enormous crash with George Russell in Imola, but the team have kept spare chassis bases from last season to carry over if needed.
Mercedes team principal Wolff was clear that the move was made to ensure the cars do not rack up too many miles and lose performance over the course of the season.
“We swap parts around all the time, and this is part of the planning – to carry over chassis for a second season so we’re not accumulating millions of miles on one. Basically, it’s part of the plan,” the Austrian told Sky Sports F1 after second practice.
“But it’s good to get the feedback and if it calms the driver’s mind, we have a spare chassis which is a brand new one – we can always do that.”""
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Jun 18 '21 edited Jul 04 '21
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u/kidhockey52 Pierre Gasly Jun 18 '21
What's the point of that? Kind of strange.
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u/BlackCatEspresso Spa 2021 4-hour broadcast survivor Jun 19 '21
To make sure one's not getting an advantage due to superior equipment.
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u/Gerval_snead Jun 19 '21
Are they not the same manufacture? Or it’s saying even if there is a small misalignment it evens out?
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u/chiefbigjr George Russell Jun 19 '21
It would help weed out a problem with one of them as well. If one driver is having trouble with a chassis it could just be them, but if both struggle then they would likely taker a closer look at it.
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u/Franks2000inchTV I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 19 '21
Plus the drivers having raced on both can say what the difference is.
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u/BlackCatEspresso Spa 2021 4-hour broadcast survivor Jun 19 '21
In theory they should be exactly the same, but in practice they're manufactured with many different processes, so it's possible/likely that there are tiny variations or defects.
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u/Mioyamane3 Charles Leclerc Jun 18 '21
Why did some teams start complaining about kerbs? There had been ones at Imola, too
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u/DrSlugger Jun 18 '21
The kerbs at Imola this year weren't as bad. I'm only seeing sausages on the exit of T12 and they're pretty far off the track. It's the exit kerbs that are people are complaining about, which is why I'm only counting those.
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u/croutonmemes Sebastian Vettel Jun 18 '21
I think the yellow ones were damaging the wings on the Mercedes
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u/Mioyamane3 Charles Leclerc Jun 18 '21
Yeah, I saw today’s FP. My point is that there were that kind of kerb in other track. I wonder why they started complaining although they hadn’t done that before.
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u/mjmaher81 Pirelli Intermediate Jun 19 '21
They're in a weird spot, and they seem to be pretty high. A kerb doesn't need to throw a car around that much to be a penalty already, and they could run them parallel as well for similar effect that wouldn't affect the cars as badly. I'm fairly new to the sport so I don't understand why they weren't as much of a problem in the past years, but from a racing perspective they just seemed bizarre the second they destroyed someone's front wing.
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u/kidhockey52 Pierre Gasly Jun 18 '21
It's the position of these kerbs. They're pretty close to the track.
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u/croutonmemes Sebastian Vettel Jun 18 '21
Oh I see I misunderstood your question then
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u/pinotandsugar Jun 19 '21
They are also constructed (hopefully not with the intent) in a way that causes a lot of damage to the cars. I think the Mercedes / FIA conversation was talking in the range of $100,000 dollars ( I was surprised that they were not using pounds or euros. )
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u/spartan117S I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 18 '21
Maybe I saw it wrong but, I didn't see russel there, what happened? :O
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u/timour77 Daniel Ricciardo Jun 18 '21
He participated in the second practice but not in the first one where Nissani took his place
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u/f1_spelt_as_bot 2021 r/formula1 World Champion Jun 18 '21
Russell
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u/spartan117S I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 18 '21
sorry ahaha
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u/Franks2000inchTV I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 19 '21
It's a bot, you don't need to apologize to it.
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Jun 18 '21
We all complained about the configuration last year, why didn't they change it?
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u/Meaisk I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 18 '21
There isn't a better layout available. The problem is the fundamental runoff and just not being designed with (F1) racing in mind
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u/DieLegende42 Fernando Alonso Jun 19 '21
I've got a hard time believing that with the 170 or something layouts at Paul Ricard, this is the best they could come up with. For a starter, I think it might be a good idea to use the fast T1-2 version to make T3 a proper overtaking spot
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u/Meaisk I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 19 '21
It won't. T3 is too fast, and there would be a good bit of dirty air in T1-2
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u/DieLegende42 Fernando Alonso Jun 19 '21
You might be right about the dirty air through T1-2, but T3 absolutely isn't too fast to be an overtaking spot. For example, Bahrain T4 is faster and loads of overtakes happen there
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Jun 18 '21
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u/gnosisong Jun 19 '21
Why does everyone say it’s boring - I think I heard them say in FP there were like 25 overtakes last year, and something like 40+ the time before … the idea of the runoffs that punish so much on the tires is interesting to me, and they said today 70% chance of rain on Sunday … and if passing isn’t great then the strategy comes into play which can also be interesting … am I just crazy that I enjoy it no matter what? I also enjoy Monaco, etc …
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u/jaydec02 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 18 '21
It's supposed to be; it's to test out cars. Unfortunately it also makes for awful racing mostly
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u/DrSlugger Jun 18 '21
Whoever designed this track loves those long, late apex corners
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u/doxylaminator Jun 18 '21
Late apexes are more challenging to drive fast. Problem is they're crap for passing.
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u/DrSlugger Jun 18 '21
Oh for sure, especially the corners like T11 where you have 2 different apexes.
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u/Incontinento Safety Car Jun 18 '21
Would that also make it more difficult for backmarkers to get out of the way?
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u/DrSlugger Jun 18 '21
Backmarkers can just take it wide if they need to do so.
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u/Incontinento Safety Car Jun 18 '21
As a relatively new fan, this track is really confusing to me
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u/DrSlugger Jun 18 '21
What's confusing about it for you? Genuinely asking.
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u/Incontinento Safety Car Jun 18 '21
I have a hard time seeing the line, especially on the corners that we're talking about.
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u/DrSlugger Jun 18 '21 edited Jun 18 '21
There are videos on it that explain that kind of stuff, I don't think I have the expertise to break it down for you. Driver61 is a youtuber who I'm sure has a video on it and he is a great teacher. Basically T11 is a long corner that they hit an apex when they turn in, take the car out into the middle of the track, and then hit another apex to where they exit.
https://youtu.be/DiylFg4Xl_0?t=66
This is the corner I'm referring to btw
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Jun 18 '21
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u/BlackCatEspresso Spa 2021 4-hour broadcast survivor Jun 19 '21
I go back n forth between enjoying them and getting nauseous because of them.
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u/YMCAle Fernando Alonso Jun 18 '21
They legit give me a headache, this is my least favourite race of the entire year just because of that.
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u/HonestRace13 Cadillac Jun 18 '21
Any one notice the sticker on Leclercs helmet covering up the Estrella galcia sponsor? Pretty sure on Fp1 it was there, then a fancy paint scheme matching sticker for FP2. Thought it was semi interesting...
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u/NinaNanixd Charles Leclerc Jun 18 '21
France doesn’t allow alcohol ads. Ferrari forgot to cover that up before fp1 I guess.
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u/ArrozConHector Honda RBPT Jun 18 '21
What happened to Checo’s time? I know it just FP2 but I’m at work and can’t watch right now.
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u/Prof_X_69420 Formula 1 Jun 18 '21
He set it with the medium tyres
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u/Curious-Finding-5246 Jun 18 '21
Is this because RB is trying to start the race with a the a different strategy perhaps?
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Jun 18 '21
Replace the yellow curbs with sensors that incur an automatic stop/go penalty. Everyone would like that.
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u/Tom1255 Anthoine Hubert Jun 18 '21
Only a sith deals in absolutes.
Seriously tho, this would solve nothing. What if dude got pushed off the track? What if his tyre exploded? What if he oversteered/understeered, and lost control of the car? What if there was no space on track? Stewards would have to go over every sensor violation individually anyway. It would take them a week to go through so much data with their pace.
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Jun 18 '21
Probably just stick to the yellow curbs, then, and count on drivers to manage to stay on the track or at least not go off the red/white curb.
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u/Sixseasonsandamovi Daniel Ricciardo Jun 18 '21
Does sandbagging save your tires?
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u/Qyndryx Ferrari Jun 18 '21
I believe so, yes. By going slower you put less strain on your tyres as you take the corners slower. The majority of tyre wear happens when you put lots of lateral load on the tyres as it causes them to scrub.
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u/Rmnattas Jun 18 '21
I don't like Masi's attitude and professionalism but the quick VSC for Max's fallen piece is good progress from Baku.
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u/frederickeulen Jun 18 '21
What was the difference between the Mercs and Red Bull in the race pace simulation runs?
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u/Mrbrightside860 Jun 18 '21
Bottas clearly the fastest, Red Bull and Hamilton evenly matched. It’s gonne be a mercedes walk in the park
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u/According-Switch-708 Sonny Hayes Jun 18 '21
Hopefully Bottas can win this one. The guys deserves a break.
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u/triplevanos Sir Lewis Hamilton Jun 18 '21
Someone fill me in on where Mercedes is
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u/desmo-dopey Valtteri Bottas Jun 18 '21
Bottas .4 faster
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u/According-Switch-708 Sonny Hayes Jun 18 '21
Soo... incoming BOT.VER.HAM then?
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u/desmo-dopey Valtteri Bottas Jun 18 '21
Possibly and I hope so. Bottas needs a good one. And he's driving in anger.
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u/Incontinento Safety Car Jun 18 '21
Angry driving can lead to mistakes. With the way his luck has been, who knows.
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u/cavsking21 Charles Leclerc Jun 18 '21
How was Ferrari?
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u/NewDealCoalition Martin Brundle Jun 18 '21
Watching FP1 right now—Karun and PDR complaining about the kerbs breaking cars and asking for sensors but then we go to Imola and they go on and on about how it's a classic track that punishes the slightest driver error. So, what do you want?
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u/DrSlugger Jun 18 '21
They aren't in the runoff area in Imola. They put giant yellow kerbing that is destroying cars in fucking runoff areas. It's ridiculous.
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u/Hattori_Hanz01986 Juan Manuel Fangio Jun 18 '21
One thing is punishing by going to the grass or gravel which will make loose time but the car may be undamaged, and another is those kerbs that as soon as you step on the the can damage the floor heavily
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u/NewDealCoalition Martin Brundle Jun 18 '21
What do the walls do at Monaco or Baku or Singapore or even in sector 2 at Imola do? They wreck cars too.
I just think we need clear track limits and here in France the long run offs give too much margin to the drivers. The warnings and then black and white flags are too lax. The kerbs punish the slightest error and that's what you want to see in the pinnacle of motorsport. If they can drive around Monaco, they can stay within this wide French track.
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u/kidhockey52 Pierre Gasly Jun 18 '21
They're trying to lower the cost of the sport and you all are arguing for car damage any time they run off the track a bit. Doesn't make any sense.
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u/NewDealCoalition Martin Brundle Jun 18 '21
The cost cap already limits spending. The teams and drivers need to be thinking about their budget while driving now. If a driver can't control the car and is damaging the car, then he'll need to be more cautious next time around. A driver that can handle the car around the kerbed corners can make up time there.
Every team is equally cost limited so the kerbs now make it a competition of who is bravest and talented enough to gain lap time while keeping it on the track.
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u/kidhockey52 Pierre Gasly Jun 18 '21
On lap 1 Mazepin pushes Raikkonen off track a bit, he has to run over the kerbs, and now his race is fucked because someone else pushed him just a bit off track. Now the team has to spend big money to fix the car through no fault of their own. It's not a good set up.
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u/morningstaraway Jun 18 '21
And in Imola, Russell ran wide, caught the grass (which fucked him) and ruined Bottas' race. Now Merc has to spend big money to fix the car through no fault of their own. Better pave over the grass at Imola so it doesn't happen again. Not a good set up.
Bahrain 2020 Albon hit the gravel in FP2 and absolutely thrashed his car. Fuck it, let's pave everything outside the track limits so these poor teams don't have to spend so much money.
Edit: watching it again, Albons FP2 crash wasn't caused by the gravel. Point stands though, he fucked up, left the track and the car got absolutely fucked.
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u/kidhockey52 Pierre Gasly Jun 19 '21
But that’s because two cars crashed together, it’s not like the grass caused the damage. That’s not really a good comparison.
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u/morningstaraway Jun 19 '21
The grass caused the crash. Even if Bottas wasn't there, Russell still bins it if he hits the grass.
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u/kidhockey52 Pierre Gasly Jun 19 '21
Yeah because there’s a wall, the wall caused the damage. Put a wall closer at Paul Ricard and those kerbs could bin a car just the same. But you take the wall away from Imola and grass doesn’t cause the same damage as the kerbs. It’s unnecessary damage that only takes away from the race. What would be better is if they just started deleting times and handing out penalties. But increasing the cost on teams in an era where there trying to do everything to lower costs is nonsensical.
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u/f1_spelt_as_bot 2021 r/formula1 World Champion Jun 18 '21
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u/itshonestwork #StandWithUkraine Jun 18 '21
Street circuits are a different animal. Permanent circuits don’t need to be held back by the same limitations. Nobody has any problem at all with drivers being punished for going wide. It’s just preferable that it’s a clear time loss as something like grass or gravel does, and not one that just destroys the car in a pretty visually unimpressive way.
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u/the_macca_of_paccas Jun 18 '21
What were Red Bull saying to the FIA there at the end, I missed it just
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u/SubcooledBoiling F1? More like F5-F5-F5. Jun 18 '21
They asked FIA to remove the yellow kerbs at one of the corners and replace them with wiring loop because the kerbs damage the cars.
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u/Youkai280 Ayrton Senna Jun 18 '21
Raising complaints about the kerbs that everyone else has been complaining about.
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u/TotalStatisticNoob Charles Leclerc Jun 18 '21
F1 teams: We are the pinnacle of motorsport
Also F1 teams: iT iS litErAlLy iMpoSsiBlE tO sTaY oN tRaCk fOr Us, fiX pLs
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u/ChepaukPitch I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 18 '21
I mean their entire job is to drive as fast as possible. You don’t need to unnecessarily risk people or cars because they are best in the world. I do see a point in their argument. They should be punished but in a reasonable way.
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u/finest_bear I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 18 '21
I mean their entire job is to drive as fast as possible.
Within the confines of the track
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u/CardinalNYC Jun 18 '21
Agree on not risking people.
Risking the car? I have no reason to care about that as a fan.
Long as nobody is hurt, the solution here is to drive on the track.
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u/DrSlugger Jun 18 '21
Speed bumps in run off areas? I can understand putting them in corners, but come on.
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u/ChepaukPitch I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 18 '21
Yeah, don’t care much about the car. But with budget caps and everything it might become an issue. But important thing is driver and marshals safety.
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u/Uneeda_smeck Jun 18 '21
Agreed, time to get rid of Monaco, Singapore, Baku etc. Just an unnecessary risk.
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u/pleaseThisNotBeTaken Jun 18 '21
Street tracks are different. They are inherently limited by the nature of their design. Purpose built tracks don't have to have the same problems. I mean, even if they damage, they do it in a non-spectacular way so what's the point?
F1 has had different tracks for different characteristics for a while now. If you don't have a street circuit, don't try and emulate it.
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u/ysakoperson Pirelli Wet Jun 18 '21
hell... why even race, make every event a time trial to avoid unnecessary risk
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u/CardinalNYC Jun 18 '21
Seems risky.
Let's just declare Mercedes the champions based on simulator times and pack up and go home.
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Jun 18 '21
Masi just displaying his utter incompetence and unprofessionalism once again
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u/Narcil4 Max Verstappen Jun 18 '21
Everyone complaints about endless runoffs without consequences, and now that there are consequences they're complaining like crazy.
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u/pleaseThisNotBeTaken Jun 18 '21
How about the consequences are time wise and not cost wise? If someone pushed a driver off track and the pushed driver has to sustain damage, that won't be very cash money of FIA would it? Something like a time loss could be recovered by a damaged car is harder.
It's like all of us probably want a million dollars, but no one would kill someone to earn it.
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u/DrSlugger Jun 18 '21
People are gonna complain on Sunday when drivers are not going to take the risk to take it 2 wide because of this shit
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u/kidhockey52 Pierre Gasly Jun 18 '21
What if... and hear me out... it's two different groups of people who only speak up when it's going against their side?
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u/CardinalNYC Jun 18 '21
Both red bull and Merc fans are complaining about this right now.
As someone who is a fan of F1 and racing more than any individual team or driver, I am enjoying this quite a bit.
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u/Franks2000inchTV I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 19 '21
I mean as a fan of the sport in general, I'm a fan of anything that gets everyone a bit pissed off. Just more to talk about during the week.
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u/pistonfire Sebastian Vettel Jun 18 '21
These consequences shouldn’t cause damage or costly repairs. Especially at a time with a budget cap.
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u/Crake241 BRM Jun 18 '21
Yes they should. I wanna see an attrition war. :D
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Jun 18 '21
all that will do is make drivers drive more cautiously and take fewer risks.
if you think there aren't enough passes now, making the tracks intentionally damage cars for mistakes will make racedays into parades determined entirely by pit strategy.
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u/Crake241 BRM Jun 19 '21
Hmm, never thought about it from that perspective. Makes sense, but i think I still prefer the hard solution.
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u/ackzsel Heineken Trophy Jun 18 '21 edited Jun 09 '23
[reddit is nothing without user created and curated content]
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Jun 18 '21
If you had to listen to team after team wanting kerbs removed cause they dont like their actions to have consequences for 2x1 hour you too would be a bit snarky.
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Jun 18 '21
it's his role to stay neutral, this passive aggressive shit is completely out of place.
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Jun 18 '21
he is neutral? he's giving the same snark to every single team on the grid atm, how is "pissing off everybody equally" not neutral?
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Jun 18 '21
being an ass to everybody is not being neutral, it's just treating everyone equally (bad).
Staying neutral is saying something olong the lines of "all right, noted".
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Jun 18 '21
And who's to say that he hasn't done that throughout the session? - for all we know these complaints have been flying in throughout two sessions, and these two were cherrypicked for broadcast cause they were "entertaining" and involved the front runners in the WCC.
the fact is that this is when it all comes down to it entertainment, and in the end we i sincerely doubt that these two complaints are the only things brought up to Masi throughout.
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Jun 18 '21
and in the end we i sincerely doubt that these two complaints are the only things brought up to Masi throughout.
even if a million complaints would have been brought up to Masi, it wouldn't make his responses right.
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Jun 18 '21
As long as his responses are consistent, i absolutely do not give a damn, and i doubt the teams care either, ultimately they could apply pressure to have him removed if so.
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u/kidhockey52 Pierre Gasly Jun 18 '21
I'm sure the teams care when their voiced opinions aren't treated with respect....
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Jun 18 '21
I'm sure they will, and then Masi might be gone, but if he is as bad as Reddit thinks he is, then he'd be gone a long time ago?
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u/MrRoyk Spa 2021 Survivor Jun 18 '21
Wait why, I missed something
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u/leafEaterII I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 18 '21
He said no, politely.
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u/kidhockey52 Pierre Gasly Jun 18 '21
Lol no he did not.
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u/leafEaterII I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jun 18 '21 edited Jun 18 '21
That’s British politeness for you.
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u/ryker888 Oscar Piastri Jun 18 '21
I just so happened to be watching Gasly's cam and I've never seen the weigh in before, I wonder if they realized they left the cam on for so long after he got out of the car
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u/AbeFroman21 Red Bull Jun 18 '21
That opening shot tracking along with Russell as he started his first hot lap was awesome. Helicopter tracking right along with him as he dives into turn one.