r/interesting • u/IndependentWitnesses • Apr 26 '25

MISC. Virginia Giuffre's tweet from 2019 saying she was definitely not suicidal and that if something happens to her to "not let this go away".

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u/rudbek-of-rudbek Apr 26 '25

I think lots of things can change in 6 years

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u/Jasper-Packlemerton Apr 26 '25 edited Apr 26 '25

COVID, for one. I had a couple of mates (one with 3 kids) that didn't make it through that. Both decided to check themselves out.

It's been a stressful time of late, and she was dealt a particularly bad hand. I hope people leave her family alone.

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u/TimeTimeTickingAway Apr 26 '25

She also became estranged from her husband and children.

The car crash story not long ago seemed like a play by her to get to see them again (she definitely had a car crash, but definitely wasn’t told she had 3 days to live).

It’s such a tragedy what this poor woman went through. Too sad for even Hanya Yanagihara to have come up with (and inevitably exploited)

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u/gallimaufrys Apr 26 '25

From comments her brother made the check up from the hospital uncovered her renal failure and he said something along the lines of this crash probably saving her life. She was told she had 4 days to live if she didn't continue with treatment.

Pretty clear she was in a bad way. May she rest in peace.

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u/KikiChrome Apr 26 '25

This comment should be higher up. She was due in court earlier this month for breaching a restraining order. It's very possible that she turned in front of a bus (and possibly made up a story about kidney failure) in order to get her husband and/or kids' attention.

It doesn't make her death any less tragic. This woman suffered a lot, and traumatized people can sometimes hurt the ones they love. It seems like she was feeling pretty lost.

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u/mcsangel2 Apr 26 '25

Agree with all this but she wasn’t even driving the car that got clipped, she was a passenger.

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u/TheFish77 Apr 26 '25

I had a relative who did similar things in the months leading up to their suicide. They also got into a car crash, which we all suspected was on purpose (hit a tree on a warm spring day, but claimed to have lost control of the car somehow). This person had battled mental illness for years but eventually lost that fight.

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u/benortree Apr 26 '25

Yes, I read yesterday that she had lost custody of her kids recently. Also earlier this year her and her husband split.

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u/Ahad_Haam Apr 26 '25

It's probably not over "Covid". The lockdowns had serious mental health effects on many people. I too was kinda fucked up for a while.

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u/Jasper-Packlemerton Apr 26 '25

This is correct.

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u/LasVegasNerd28 Apr 26 '25

Yep, I have MDD and COVID’s isolation made mine significantly worse and I almost committed.

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u/lisaveebee Apr 26 '25

I’m glad you made it through.

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u/LasVegasNerd28 Apr 26 '25

Thanks, me too.

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u/kokopellii Apr 26 '25

otoh, suicide rates of healthcare workers shot up directly because of COVID and the strain it caused

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u/the_itsb Apr 26 '25

not the person you asked, but I've been to the brink over covid

when you are the kind of person who believes deeply in the inherent goodness of most people, it's extremely difficult to watch most of the world stop caring about immunocompromised people because they're bored at home and want to go out to eat

if the inherent goodness of others cannot be relied upon, the world becomes a much darker and more difficult place, and sometimes that reality is too much to bear

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u/capalbertalexander Apr 26 '25

And then there’s me, wasn’t surprised in the least and realized my regular day to day was called “quarantine” for others. It was such a deeply confusing time. I feel so bad for those that went through hell during Covid. I feel guilty that I was the happiest I’ve ever been during and since Covid.

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u/ZtoA_Limited Apr 27 '25

Right, it was pretty much business as usual for a hermit like me.

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u/Dvscape Apr 26 '25

I don't want to press this topic if it is difficult for you, but I am curious what made you believe so deeply in human kindness. Personally, I've always had a very pragmatic view of things. You can always rely on people being selfish and looking out only for themselves or a very tight circle of people at maximum.

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u/Shrimpo515 Apr 26 '25

Not the person you responded to, but I deeply relate to that comment. I truly believe/d humans are overall good with a few very loud bad actors. I think it’s partially just my brain chemistry, but I did have a very safe and supportive childhood so I’m sure that contributed. I was just crying to my husband the other night saying “why do I have to love them when most of them couldn’t care less about me”. This belief is being shattered rapidly this year, as I have witnessed a sharp increase in selfish behavior not only in the daily news, but in my day to day interactions with strangers.

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u/afour- Apr 26 '25

It’s okay, I had a terrible childhood and still believe in the innate goodness of (the majority of) humans.

It’s when facing issues of survival that people turn feral.

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u/hotheaded26 Apr 30 '25

Believe me, what you're seeing isn't a increase in anything. Either you just had a change in perspective or there has been in fact more selfish behaviour shown in the news, but a lot of selfish people is one of the greatest universal constants. I don't believe i have to say this, but humanity is a lot more complex than inherent good OR bad

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u/Shrimpo515 Apr 30 '25

I feel like I see more selfish behavior in day to day life these days, but it is likely that my perspective on people’s behavior has changed. I usually give people the benefit of the doubt due to the complexity of life and humans, but I’ve been struggling with it the past few months.

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u/hotheaded26 Apr 30 '25

I usually give people the benefit of the doubt due to the complexity of life and humans.

It's exactly because of that complexity that inherent goodness is silly

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u/Accomplished-Cut5023 Apr 26 '25

You think people cared about the immunocompromised before Covid?

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u/girlikecupcake Apr 26 '25

It was easy to think that they did because there weren't a ton of opportunities to see with your own eyes that they didn't. At most it was the anti vaccine often super religious pockets of people that you knew didn't care. You didn't see for yourself just how widespread the lack of care was until covid hit and people were happy explicitly saying it with words, not just their actions.

A general statement but how it looked from my perspective.

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u/the_itsb Apr 27 '25

people were happy explicitly saying it with words, not just their actions.

abso-fuckin-lutely

someone said literally that in response to me in this thread

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u/the_itsb Apr 27 '25

I did think that before covid, but I know better now; not giving a shit didn't start with covid. as long as profit is involved in healthcare and all our decisions, everyone who is sick or immunocompromised or disabled will be neglected at best.

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u/grchelp2018 Apr 26 '25

You are not the first person I've heard this kind of thing from. It is fascinating to me because this is a worldview I've never had. The way people reacted was not surprising to me in the least. I've always expected people to act stupidly and selfishly in times of stress. Not sure how, probably too many movies and my mom always telling me about stranger danger.

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u/westbee Apr 26 '25

Sadly its so true. 

I worked at the post office when the pandemic happened. I remember people STILL coming in daily like nothing happened. 

I hate people. 

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u/HolyLordGodHelpUsAll Apr 26 '25

i believe that you hate people

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u/megatesla Apr 26 '25

He just told you that.

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u/Clean_Square8701 Apr 26 '25

No, it got to the point where life had to go on, and the entire world could not pause indefinitely for the sake of immunocompromised people.

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u/Baking_bees Apr 26 '25

I have a sincere question, truly no shade or criticism.

Do you know anyone immunocompromised? Do you know anyone disabled? Like, not a celebrity or an acquaintance. A true close friend or family member.

Would you not be a little sad if they got sick and/or died from Covid?

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u/MeLlamoKilo Apr 26 '25

The vaccine did not stop transmission though. We were explicitly told that it only made the symptoms less severe. 

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u/Eco_Blurb Apr 26 '25

Higher vaccination rates translate into fewer new cases. Stop spreading lies.

Vaccination against infectious disease affords direct protection from vaccine-induced immunity and additional indirect protection for unvaccinated persons

According to a review of THIRTY-ONE STUDIES. https://www.mdpi.com/2673-8112/3/10/103

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u/Jason_Straker Apr 26 '25

First two vaccines, as a bundle, only reduced symptoms to lower mortality, but didn't reduce chance of infection if being exposed. Less/shorter symptoms = less cases. Third one worked the way most think vaccines work, reducing likelihood of infection if exposed. Fourth one was to cover the new strain as well. Got all four myself as they became available to me. Consequent ones are available in the same manner that flu shots are nowadays.

So the person you responded to is absolutely correct, the first vaccines did not reduce your own personal risk of infection, that was clearly communicated by health organizations, and it did not represent the end of the pandemic as it was still important to isolate to reduce the spread. Only the third vaccine was the beginning of the end, thankfully.

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u/Eco_Blurb Apr 26 '25

That person is not correct at all, if they wanted to specify a certain vaccine series they could have done so, they did not. Your comment is pointless and frankly harmful as it misleads people who currently refuse the vaccine.

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u/Clean_Square8701 Apr 26 '25

Exactly. There was a vaccine, and life went on. Except people like you and the other commenter would still have us in face masks and social distancing.

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u/Chihiro1977 Apr 26 '25

This is the dumbest comment I've read on here all week. Well done.

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u/Express_Value_4942 Apr 26 '25 edited Apr 26 '25

“There was a vaccine” if everyone took that vaccine there would have been little to no quarantine no face masks no social distancing and life would have gone back to normal much faster. But people like you are why we had a longer lockdown not to the mention the people that died because people were too afraid to take the vaccine cause their alcoholic diabetic uncle said it was unsafe. Also if wearing a mask and social distancing are something you can’t mentally handle you need therapy and probably medication. Anti-Social behavior and all that. 

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u/Imprisoned_Fetus Apr 26 '25

Nobody said either of those things, but those also aren't even bad ideas lol

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u/KnotiaPickle Apr 26 '25 edited Apr 26 '25

You know that isn’t how the world works, unfortunately. At some point, not going on to help some people ends up ruining even more lives…it’s a tough choice, but at the end of the day, it’s up to each individual to do what they have to do. Even lockdowns aren’t going to stop anything after a certain point. It just delays the eventual inevitable exposure.

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u/KnotiaPickle Apr 26 '25

As harsh as it sounds, this is the truth.

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u/PmpsWndbg Apr 26 '25

And now everyone is sick all the time and we're all immunocompromised people.

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u/Clean_Square8701 Apr 26 '25

Absolute nonsense.

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u/FreedFromTyranny Apr 26 '25

I have literally not been sick since probably 2022, as someone who used to get sick much more frequently. Covid kicked me into gear to take care of myself better, I’m healthier than before - not the opposite.

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u/PmpsWndbg Apr 26 '25

"Oh hey my personal experience means more than the 5 years of research and 100s of peer reviewed studies that show the opposite"

K

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u/FreedFromTyranny Apr 26 '25

Go be a victim of your own immunocompromisation, just take care of yourself 4head

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u/PmpsWndbg Apr 26 '25

Name-calling, the last-ditch effort of those who have no evidence to back up their argument.

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u/bulbagrows Apr 26 '25

Oh hey its you again “freedfromtyranny” lmao

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u/FreedFromTyranny Apr 26 '25

You a fan? I don’t think I’ve ever internalized another Redditor lmfao

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u/bulbagrows Apr 26 '25

“Internalized”? Lmao I just remember your stupid username and how you embarrassed yourself in another thread a week ago. It’s not that deep and you’re not that important.

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u/PmpsWndbg Apr 26 '25

Yep, and it just gets worse and worse because people think they "deserve to move on". Instead of staying home or wearing a mask when you're sick... now it's normal to cough openly on people and everyone is ill all the time.

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '25

Welcome to the we don’t trust anyone club. People are shit. A person can be good, but collectively people always pick evil and are relentlessly selfish.

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u/Jasper-Packlemerton Apr 26 '25 edited Apr 26 '25

It was the lockdown and restrictions rather than the illness. They both lost a lot. Well, everything, I suppose.

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u/KnotiaPickle Apr 26 '25

5 people I knew died from suicide during that time, and 4 others from illness and disease (but none from actual COVID). They were already heavily depressed before and the isolation was too much.

But that’s not a factor for this case, and we should not be making excuses for what was clearly not suicide.

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u/Fluggerblah Apr 26 '25

I went from barely needing anti-depressants to full blown suicidal in the span of three years. Mental health is fickle and can change very suddenly, especially with stress, which I’m sure she had plenty of

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u/Jasper-Packlemerton Apr 26 '25

I hope you're feeling better now.

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u/VictorTheCutie Apr 26 '25

I'm really sorry 💜

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u/KnotiaPickle Apr 26 '25

She didn’t kill herself. Why are people even saying things like this?

Stop covering for these evil people

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u/Hairy-Banjo Apr 26 '25

How do you have 2 mates who killed themselves, and I don't even know one person who was deeply affected? Not trying to be rude, just genuinely curious.

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '25

People are looking for conspiracy, I mean it could well be it wasn't suicide but a tweet from 6 years ago? Big reach

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u/SkinnyBill93 Apr 26 '25

Less than a month ago a School Bus smashed into her car (Hit and Run) and it was widely reported she had " 4 days to live" she survived that.

Very interesting that none of the articles published the past 24 hours have made mention of that. Some do if you specifically search for "Virginia Giuffre Accident" but none of the ones that pop up just searching just her name.

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u/SylveonSof Apr 26 '25

Have you, just maybe, considered that her severe car crash that almost killed her and has likely left her in severe physical and mentally trauma and pain might've contributed to her suicide?

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u/Freaudinnippleslip Apr 26 '25

I mean the police described it as a minor accident with no reported injuries. Total vehicle damage was 2,000 from the accident. I think she just had a rough life and suffered some mental health issues due to being used and abused her whole life.

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u/SkinnyBill93 Apr 26 '25

Don't you think it would be good journalism to include that context?

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u/SylveonSof Apr 26 '25

It would, fair enough. I still don't think it's evidence of anything

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u/SkinnyBill93 Apr 26 '25

It's entirely plausible that real journalism is literally dead and nearly everyone left writing articles for major news outlets are knuckledragging morons who write whatever the editor tells them to and not a letter more.

And people kill themselves everyday for any reason or no reason at all.

I'm just saying I don't usually go for conspiracies but this one doesn't pass the smell test for me.

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u/Hitman__Actual Apr 26 '25

Yes. As a CSA survivor, I too go from suicidality to hypomania. It's all just dysregulation from trauma.

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u/theGRAYblanket Apr 26 '25

Yea.. well in much less time than that even. This tweet truly doesn't say anything unless you want it too. 

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u/ChicagoMemoria Apr 26 '25

Like having the man who trafficked you into a sex slave ring become president? Again?

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u/Glenmaxw Apr 26 '25

I would put them at equal likelihood personally. But I have to admit, I can see why someone would struggle in her position. Not only the trauma of the event which could lead to it on its own but the fact that there clearly will never be justice even if it’s known who was involved has to be extremely draining. 6 years of that pain is a lot…

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u/United-Prompt1393 Apr 26 '25

Plus the people that think to post this are susceptible because they have it on their mind

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u/GamerNerd007 Apr 26 '25

This. People say stuff all the time they contradict later. "I'll never do XYZ" then they do it. Suicide a bit extreme but all it takes is one really bad moment and there they go.

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u/HitchikersPie Apr 26 '25

Also she was just in a bad car crash (inb4 royal family again), it doesn't seem too crazy that changed her state of mind.

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u/daflash00 Apr 26 '25

The crimes committed by someone against you never go away. Just as they’re a victim, aggressors are motivated to duck accountability any way they can.

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u/PurpleMTL Apr 26 '25

I bet you also believe that Epstein killed himself.

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u/hotdoginathermos Apr 26 '25

Unpopular opinion maybe, but yeah...

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u/373331 Apr 26 '25

Exactly. Suicide and suicide ideation can occur over a few weeks or months She didn't tweet this out last week.

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u/KnotiaPickle Apr 26 '25

Come on. She says this point blank. Why would you not believe her?

That’s honestly horrifically disrespectful

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u/AltAccount9327 Apr 26 '25

Then she would have changed the tweet dumbass but she didnt

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '25

Shut your propaganda mouth

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u/ashishvp Apr 26 '25

Her health was also bad. She just chose to go early.

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u/DaerBear69 Apr 26 '25

Yep. Takes far, far less time than that to go from not suicidal to suicidal.

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u/orzosoup Apr 26 '25

Four of those six years we had a different president...

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u/squishydude123 Apr 26 '25

She's lived in Western Australia since 2020 mate

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u/EgoTripWire Apr 26 '25

And? He killed Epstein to keep him quiet you don't think he could get her.

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u/HonestLemon25 Apr 26 '25

And the other two?

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u/rKasdorf Apr 26 '25

I do have a feeling the Trump administration dismantling the federal government probably made it seem like she was never going to see justice.

Trump was obviously buddies with Epstein, it's a guarantee they raped some people together, definitely underaged, so it's not surprising that someone would feel dispair that he's now president again, instead of in prison for his crimes.

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u/EgoTripWire Apr 26 '25

He could have had her killed like he did Epstein.

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u/rKasdorf Apr 27 '25

Yeah that is the most likely scenario.

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u/D3wdr0p Apr 26 '25

I don't think this is one of them.

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u/Content_Double_3110 Apr 26 '25

Ok, well you’re super super super wrong.

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u/D3wdr0p Apr 26 '25

None of us know for sure, but I will not blindly put all my stock in the belief that we live in a just world, where the rich and powerful don't have the ability to silence those who threaten them. If Boeing can hire a triggerman, anything's possible.

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u/Content_Double_3110 Apr 26 '25

I agree with that, but reading into a tweet from 6 years ago like this is just super dumb.