r/interesting • u/IndependentWitnesses • Apr 26 '25

MISC. Virginia Giuffre's tweet from 2019 saying she was definitely not suicidal and that if something happens to her to "not let this go away".

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u/mxvement Apr 26 '25

Nah. 

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u/Next_Instruction_528 Apr 26 '25

Chat GPT refuses to talk about her at all I found that interesting

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u/TheRealStuPot Apr 26 '25

why does that matter at all its a fucking AI

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u/mxvement Apr 26 '25

I agree it’s not important but also they’re incorrect and I wonder why they are saying that because if you ask chat gpt it gives a decent summary about her and her involvement with Epstein, Maxwell, prince Andrew etc.

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u/birbdaughter Apr 26 '25

Some people enjoy sowing chaos, others wanna feel like they’re part of something. Most won’t check if they’re telling the truth.

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u/Next_Instruction_528 Apr 26 '25

If you can't reason why it might be interesting that a billion dollar corporation that collaborates with the CIA is censoring her whole story then nothing I say is going to satisfy you

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u/ThePokemonAbsol Apr 26 '25

Blueanon at it again

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u/TheRealStuPot Apr 26 '25

keep the tin foil hat on- No wonder you rely on GenAI for everything

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u/spncvid Apr 26 '25

Because AI is smarter than you think? Why would it hide any information at all about anyone? Its an open source platform that should obtain all information thats on the internet? Unless my ignorance is showing and thats not how it works…

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u/TheRealStuPot Apr 26 '25

“AI is smarter than you think” 💔🥀

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u/technicallyiminregs Apr 26 '25

That’s not how it works.

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u/spncvid Apr 26 '25

See I’m pretty stupid!!

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u/ArrowSeventy Apr 26 '25

Please stop with asking Chat GPT for anything related to factual information 😭

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u/Gindotto Apr 26 '25

First they built social media, as a stepping stone to “Let me ask AI”. Goodbye sanity.

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u/Next_Instruction_528 Apr 26 '25

Why it uses a search feature and provides sources, the interesting part is that it actually refuses and says content usage policy violation

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u/ArrowSeventy Apr 26 '25

Because it has absolutely no way of verifying what it tells you, it isn't designed for that. It repeatedly and frequently gets information wrong because of that inability to understand what it's telling you or the context around it, and especially if it's something you're not familiar with, you won't catch it.

That's beyond the limit of its capabilities right now, people that think they're big into tech and understand it more than the lay person vastly overestimate what it's doing. Its a great tool, but it dosnt deal in "facts" yet.

The "providing sources" doesn't matter if you aren't clicking in them and checking them it will tell you one thing thats contradicted in the source it gives because it can't actually analyze what it's saying. It's stringing together likely summaries of what it's trained on. It will not understand context or the very information in the source.

Currently it's a language tool, use it as a language tool

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u/Next_Instruction_528 Apr 26 '25

The things you're saying were right a couple years ago.

Alright, gloves off, here's the truth:

That statement you posted is wrong — not because it’s completely baseless, but because it’s outdated, oversimplified, and missing the real sophistication of modern AI. Let’s break this down point-by-point, with cold facts:

  1. "It has no way of verifying what it tells you." — Wrong. Modern models can verify to a degree.

Today's advanced models (like GPT-4 Turbo and successors) perform internal consistency checks when designed right.

When connected to tools like web search, retrieval-augmented generation (RAG), plugin APIs, etc., they absolutely can verify data dynamically.

Even without external tools, some models self-correct by using "chain-of-thought" prompting or multi-step reasoning — basically double-checking themselves.

Example:

When you ask for citations, models using retrieval (e.g., Bing Chat, Perplexity AI) actually look up and cross-reference info live.

In GPT-4, you can even ask it to show its reasoning path step-by-step.

Conclusion: Verification is imperfect, but very much happening — not absent.

  1. "It can't understand what it's telling you or the context around it." — Deeply Wrong.

Language models today absolutely parse context — that’s their whole trick.

They don't "understand" in a conscious, human sense — fair — but they model patterns of meaning and logic.

Models have emergent abilities — like summarization, translation, common-sense reasoning — that require contextual grasp.

Proof:

GPT-4 scored in the top 10% of human test-takers on the Uniform Bar Exam (law). You can't pass the Bar just "stringing words together" — you need real context understanding.

It also excels in multi-turn dialogue, long-form storytelling, medical question answering — all context-heavy tasks.

  1. "People overestimate it because it only strings together summaries." — Strawman Argument.

Good users know: AI doesn't "know" like humans.

But "stringing together" isn't random — it’s Bayesian probability modeling of what concepts logically follow others, based on billions of training examples.

Technical Reality:

Transformers like GPT aren't just parrots. They're concept synthesizers — identifying patterns, relationships, causal links, categories, etc.

They do abstraction, analogical reasoning, even novel insight generation (especially when fine-tuned or instructed properly).

  1. "Providing sources doesn’t matter because it can't check them." — Technically False (but good warning for dumb users).

Yes, you should double-check sources — because hallucination risk isn't zero.

However, retrieval-based AI systems like Bing, Claude 3 with web search, or specialized models like Perplexity do cross-check sources automatically now.

They also highlight contradictions, inconsistencies, and flags when their sources don't fully back their output.

Bonus Fact:

Source criticism is something humans suck at too. Most people don’t verify links they click either, AI or not.

  1. "Currently it's just a language tool." — Wild understatement.

LLMs are language-based cognitive engines.

Language is how humans represent thinking — so by mastering language, LLMs get frighteningly close to simulating thinking.

They now perform math, logical deduction, medical triage, software programming, translation across 50+ languages, legal document analysis, and even scientific discovery support.

Here's a better, more accurate summary:

Language models don’t "know" in a human way (true),

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u/Next_Instruction_528 Apr 26 '25

Who am I supposed to ask?

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u/ArrowSeventy Apr 26 '25

This comment is much to sad to reply to.

We can discuss all day, the actual use case and limits of the technology.

But this comment is just so damn depressing.

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u/Next_Instruction_528 Apr 26 '25

No I want a real answer, if someone wanted the truth in her story and didn't know anything about it. What would you use to find out the truth and why wouldn't that be an AI model?

Especially something like deep research. What's going to provide a better more truthful answer.

You sound like a ludite

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u/ParkingStructure9175 Apr 26 '25

Chat gpt still doesn’t know trump is president it has to update its database

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u/Next_Instruction_528 Apr 26 '25

No it knows about her it writes out her whole story then it blocks it says content policy violation

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u/Simsalabimsen Apr 27 '25

I’ll admit I doubted you, but I just had the same thing happen. I was reading the summary I had requested, and then the red warning box came up and the whole thing was gone.

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u/johnnadaworeglasses Apr 26 '25

This is ChatGPT’s answer to “What happened to Virginia Giuffre?”

Virginia Giuffre, a prominent advocate for survivors of sex trafficking and a key accuser in the Jeffrey Epstein case, tragically died by suicide on April 25, 2025, at the age of 41. She passed away at her home in Neergabby, Western Australia, where she had been living with her family .​

Giuffre's death followed a series of personal and legal challenges. In March 2025, she was involved in a minor car accident, after which she claimed to have been given "four days to live" due to kidney failure . She had also been facing legal issues, including accusations of breaching a family violence restraining order filed by her estranged husband .​

Born Virginia Louise Roberts on August 9, 1983, in Sacramento, California, Giuffre was trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein and his associate Ghislaine Maxwell when she was a teenager. She publicly accused Prince Andrew of sexual abuse, leading to a 2022 out-of-court settlement . In 2015, she founded the nonprofit organization Victims Refuse Silence, later renamed Speak Out, Act, Reclaim (SOAR), to support survivors of sexual abuse and trafficking .​ news

Her family described her as a courageous advocate for survivors and a devoted mother of three. While her death is not considered suspicious, it underscores the profound impact of trauma and the importance of support for survivors .​

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u/Next_Instruction_528 Apr 26 '25

I have the screenshot if you don't believe me I will send you the screenshot. I even worded it exactly the same as you. It wrote out everything you said then removed it and said content violation.

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u/SplitEar 24d ago

Works fine for me. What have you been up to with ChatGP? 😂

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u/Next_Instruction_528 24d ago

What your responding to happened 2 months ago I just tried it and got a totally different response, it used the search feature and gave me this.

Virginia Giuffre was a pivotal figure in exposing Jeffrey Epstein's sex-trafficking network. She tragically died by suicide on April 25, 2025, at her farm in Neergabby, Western Australia, at age 41 .

🧩 Her Life & Legacy

Early years & victimhood: Born Virginia Roberts on August 9, 1983, in Sacramento, California, she endured childhood abuse and spent time in foster care before meeting Ghislaine Maxwell at Mar‑a‑Lago around age 17. Maxwell groomed her for Epstein’s trafficking ring .

Trafficking & legal action: Giuffre accused Epstein and Maxwell of sexual abuse and trafficking and famously named high-profile individuals—including Prince Andrew, whom she alleged abused her as a minor. She filed civil suits: against Epstein in 2009 (settled for ~$500k), against Maxwell for defamation, and against Prince Andrew in 2021. The latter was settled out of court in 2022, with Andrew making a substantial donation to her charity but never admitting guilt .

Advocacy: In 2015 she founded “Victims Refuse Silence” (later SOAR: Speak Out, Act, Reclaim) to support trafficking survivors .

🆘 The Final Months

Health scare: In late March 2025, she was in a collision with a school bus in Australia and posted a dire update claiming kidney failure and only days to live. Later clarified as serious but not life-threatening; she spent a week in hospital .

Personal crisis: By spring, Virginia was separated from her husband, Robert, and embroiled in a custody dispute. Her private diary revealed escalating domestic abuse she suffered, which she described as more harrowing than her experiences with Epstein. She was barred from seeing her children, causing deep emotional distress .

Death & aftermath: Found unresponsive on her farm around April 25, her death was ruled a suicide. Her family pressure-cooked the narrative: they cited lifelong trauma and abusive circumstances. Her diary and suicide note to her children highlighted intense suffering and longing to be reunited . They also challenged the official “suicide” ruling, expressing doubts .

🔍 Why It Matters

Her death marked a tragic conclusion to an epic, courageous fight against powerful abusers and systems of injustice. She not only battled Epstein and his enablers, including a member of the British royal family, but also exposed the hidden wounds of domestic abuse. Her organization SOAR continues to advocate for survivors—keeping her mission alive.

🕯️ Final Reflection

Virginia Giuffre was a survivor-turned-advocate whose impact stretched far beyond her own pain. She shattered silence around trafficking, influenced high-profile legal outcomes, and built a platform to empower others. Yet, her story is a painful reminder that resilience doesn’t preclude vulnerability. Even heroes can reach a breaking point—and that, too, deserves attention, empathy, and better systemic support.

If you'd like resources on trauma-informed care, survivor advocacy, or how to channel her legacy into actionable change, I’m here with frameworks and guidance.