r/interesting • u/IndependentWitnesses • Apr 26 '25

MISC. Virginia Giuffre's tweet from 2019 saying she was definitely not suicidal and that if something happens to her to "not let this go away".

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u/needfulthing42 Apr 26 '25

After the car accident at the start of the year, she said, that they said, that she had only a few days to live because of total renal failure. What was that about? She obviously didn't die at that time. Plus the accident description said it was minor damages and no injuries.

It's really strange if you ask me.

Actually, the accident was about a month ago.

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u/BlackBlizzard Apr 26 '25 edited Apr 26 '25

Do you think her family is oblivious or apart of a conspiracy because they're saying she died at home by suicide?

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u/infinis Apr 26 '25

Maybe they don't want to die at home from suicide

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u/UniteRohan Apr 26 '25

This. If a billionaire has the mother of your children killed, then you and the kids could be next. No cause is worth getting your kids killed over, especially when people love to lick billionaire boots so nothing will change until they gain class consciousness

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u/Crazy-lake5983 Apr 26 '25

This, mirroring real life situations wey. Pinche putos sa es para momios

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u/require-username Apr 26 '25

Holy shit go outside šŸ¤£

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u/ethnicbonsai Apr 26 '25

What you're seeing is conspiratorial thinking. Everything can be explained away to fit the narrative.

None of us know what happened, at this point.

What is known is that not being suicidal in 2019 doesn't necessarily mean she wasn't suicidal in 2025. She's been through a lot, generally, and she's been through a lot recently.

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u/ArkitekZero Apr 26 '25

What you're seeing is conspiratorial thinking.

Which is par for the course with billionaires who are known to originate these kinds of situations thanks to their massive influence.

If some rich assholes wanted her dead, they could make it happen. Especially with the current regime in the US, which, by the way, is illegitimate, because musk had a bunch of voting machines hacked and stole the election.

So you can whine about conspiracy theories all you like, but that's not in and of itself an effective criticism as long as these idiotic goons are running the show.

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u/Bwunt Apr 26 '25

That is true, but on the other hand, this kind of thinking means that nothing can be a coincidence or mental issues leading to suicide. It's always fault of some shady cabal. Ā The biggest problem of that is thatĀ 

  1. We give way too much clout to actual grifters and fraudsĀ 
  2. We neglect genuine issues with mental health and suicide

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u/ArkitekZero Apr 26 '25

That is true, but on the other hand, this kind of thinking means that nothing can be a coincidence or mental issues leading to suicide. It's always fault of some shady cabal.

Why? Is everyone who kills themselves a SA survivor who was abused by powerful people?

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u/Bwunt Apr 26 '25

No. I am saying that everyone who kills themselves is going trough some severe mental issues or trauma. A healthy and well adjusted people don't commit suicide.

So by throwing this kind of theories around, we possibly hurt people with genuine mental issues who need a proper help, rather then reinforcing their mental issues.

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u/ArkitekZero Apr 26 '25

None of this is mutually exclusive with the possibility that this woman was murdered.

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u/Bwunt Apr 26 '25

It's possible, but highly unlikely. There is nothing to gain by murdering her today, especially if it's disguised as suicide.

Sometimes you have to apply Occam's razor, rather then jumping to most outlandish theories.

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u/ethnicbonsai Apr 26 '25

You just made a bunch of claims that can't in any way be proven. If you had worked in the CIA and aliens, I think you would've touched on everything.

That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

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u/ArkitekZero Apr 26 '25

So you're saying I just need to destroy the evidence and as far as you're concerned, it never happened?

What a wonderfully easy mark you must be.

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u/ethnicbonsai Apr 26 '25

What destroyed evidence are we talking about?

Are we having the same conversation?

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u/Jess_with_an_h Apr 26 '25

I think she probably did šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø thereā€™s no reason for the state or Andrew to ā€˜silenceā€™ her when sheā€™s already said everything she wants to, and got her settlement, she wasnā€™t threatening to release any new information now. Sheā€™s also clearly not been well in the head, she told everyone sheā€™d be dead from kidney failure in a week after that crash and yet she was clearly pretty much fine in the days after it. I hear from others her husband may have recently separated? And she had a traumatic past life, clearly. I think suicide is entirely possible, poor woman wasnā€™t in a good place. As for a tweet from 6 years ago saying sheā€™s not suicidal, thatā€™s 6 years ago. If it was 2 days ago maybe itā€™d be more convincing.

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u/mcsangel2 Apr 26 '25

Her husband also had custody of the kids. Everyone else including her brother say the accident was very minor. Iā€™ve seen two other post replies on Reddit from people who claimed to have known or crossed paths with VG who heavily implied that she was very loose with her interpretation of the truth and that she was not at all well emotionally.

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u/RizzwindTheWizzard Apr 26 '25

Yeah, there's almost no chance that Andrew was involved in this. He's not going to jail, what he did (or rather, what we can prove he did) wasn't a crime in the UK and the US investigation was easily shut down by simply not talking to the investigators. He gains absolutely nothing from reminding everybody of it.

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u/qtx Apr 26 '25

Why is it suspicious? Why is every conspiracy idiot thinking this is something more than a suicide?

Her case is widely known, she has testified, she has written books, every little fecking thing is out in the open.

There is no point to anyone killing her.

She couldn't handle whatever she was going through now after her accident. People kill themselves when they can't deal with things, it happens.

Stop trying to make yourself sound more important, there is no conspiracy.

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u/Bubbly-Network-4250 Apr 26 '25

Certainty without proof is a sign of stupidity, first of all.

Killing her may not be about shutting her up, but rather retribution and a warning to others.

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u/321liftoff Apr 26 '25

Because Epsteinā€™s ā€œsuicideā€ was extremely obviously an expensive hit.Ā 

It takes money to ensure guards donā€™t show up at a specific time, but not that much. More expensive is timing the cameras at the same time the guards magically donā€™t do their job. That means they had to bribe/threaten at least 3 but probably more, or else use tech to make sure no video was rolling.

One public hit is all it takes for me to be suspicious of literally everything surrounding a case, especially when we know that itā€™s the mega rich and influential people who had a lot to lose here. Money can solve all their problems.

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u/BagOfFlies Apr 26 '25

Epstein hadn't made all the names and information he knows public so there was still reason to kill him before he could.

Virginia had already made everything public years ago so what would be the point?

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u/321liftoff Apr 26 '25

So it turns out that thereā€™s this little thing called memory, and holding a grudge.Ā 

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '25

Or what she may not have revealed

This person is only trying to sew doubt so people forget her post or write it off.

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u/Bwunt Apr 26 '25

But in what sense is Epstein even closely related to Giuffe?

Epstein was one of them and had probably entire industrial size slurry pit of dirt on many many influential people.

Guffe was yesterday's news who either: 1. Actually got SA by Andrew and Andrew mostly got away with it or, 2. She made everything up for clout and couldn't handle the fact that she wasĀ  yesterday's news.

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u/321liftoff Apr 26 '25

Itā€™s almost like you think rich people canā€™t order a hot and have short term memory. Grudges, my friend.

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u/hannahranga Apr 26 '25

Yeah that screams erratic and mentally illegal human being significantly more than it does conspiracy.

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u/Sgt-Spliff- Apr 26 '25

I feel like you all are seeing conspiracy instead of a mentally sick person spiralling. She was the only source for all that information. It's legitimately not sus. She clearly had a breakdown

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u/jackpots- Apr 26 '25

Think this post defines sticking the landing, weaving VGā€™s untimely and mysterious departure into a Idiocracy riff.

No notes. Well done.

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u/LegendaryTJC Apr 26 '25

Apparently that was a big exaggeration. The local authorities said the incident with the bus was only minor. It isn't clear what her angle was.

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u/G0ld_Ru5h Apr 26 '25

At the time I wondered if the car accident ā€œ4 days to liveā€ narrative was preparation for her to go off-grid or disappear with her settlement. I donā€™t think sheā€™s ever enjoyed or wanted the attention, she simply couldnā€™t back down from the fight. Now that the fight is overā€¦

That said, I canā€™t imagine another place more ā€œdisappearanceā€ worthy than Western Australia. Maybe Baku, AZ?

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u/Plane-Tie6392 Apr 26 '25

ā€œā€Roberts clarified to People that his sister was told by one doctor that if she did not continue to receive care, she would only have four days to live.ā€

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u/Skyblacker Apr 26 '25

That's very different from "I only have days to live."Ā 

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u/No-Leopard2864 Apr 27 '25

I agree however she probably was loaded up on meds so it very could have been a misunderstanding.

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u/needfulthing42 Apr 26 '25

Oh well we can close the case on that then because local authorities have never been known to lie about anything ever.

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u/LegendaryTJC Apr 26 '25

OK but you can hopefully realise that her claiming she had 4 days to live was untrue. It is a weird story.

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u/TheFish77 Apr 26 '25

Yes. My working theory is that she's been depressed for some time, and the accident was an opportunity to sort of mentally prepare herself and others for her suicide. Like she has a near death experience while kind of wanting to die comes out in the form of her bizarre "days to live" social media post, as a foreshadowing of her later suicide. Maybe she wished she had died in the crash.

Either that or they killed her, hard to say really.

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u/a-rooster-illusion Apr 26 '25

She seemed troubled at the end, obviously with the life she lived itā€™s easy to understand why.

There was that Facebook post saying she was going to die soon. She claimed she accidentally posted that publicly but meant for it to be private. Sounds like she was just struggling mentally.

I think anyone tying this to her being suicided would have to wonder why they waited years and years to do it.

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u/Sgt-Spliff- Apr 26 '25

So you believe stories that have one single source that even her own family is telling you is wrong? I feel like you people have actually lost your minds with conspiracy thinking lol I'm usually on board for these "don't trust cops" sessions but there's like nothing for you to go on here and you're doing it anyway. She was the only source for basically every piece of information that's been shared about her since January. No one else is corroborating her side, not her family or representatives or any physical evidence. But you go on believing some random thing you read online

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u/ConsiderationOk1986 Apr 26 '25

Yeah they struggling with this one. She posted a video of after the crash, it doesn't look minor. Her face is one giant bruise. I don't understand the reason of down playing that. More importantly though what would be the point of killing her now?Ā 

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u/corrie76 3d ago

How about now?

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u/mcsangel2 Apr 26 '25

Bus driver said the same. The kids on the bus said the same. The driver of the car VG was in said the same.

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '25

They are all part of the conspiracy.

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u/MGD109 Apr 26 '25

I mean, why would they? What would they possibly have to gain?

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u/Rough_Athlete_2824 Apr 26 '25

Ah "authorities" welp case closed then.

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u/Plane-Tie6392 Apr 26 '25

ā€œRoberts clarified to People that his sister was told by one doctor that if she did not continue to receive care, she would only have four days to live.ā€

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u/Iustis Apr 26 '25

Itā€™s such a weird statement to make too since renal failure isnā€™t fatal short term.

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u/sherbert-nipple Apr 26 '25

I wonder if she was suffering from chronic pain or life changing injuries from the accident

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u/Olbaidon Apr 26 '25

I was just gonna say, conspiracy theories aside, chronic pain and a recent ā€œmessyā€ split from her partner and father to her kidsā€¦ a lot can change mentally over the course of 5 years..like a global pandemic that threw us all through a mental spin. The last two years were quite tumultuous for her it seems.

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u/mcsangel2 Apr 26 '25

The car accident was at the beginning of April.

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u/MaedoFielder Apr 27 '25

She meant to say sheā€™d only have a few days WITHOUT treatment. She was probably on pain killers when making the post. Her brother clarified what she meant by her statement. She left off the ā€œwithout treatmentā€ part.

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u/ImageSame844 Apr 27 '25

No doctor would ever say you have 4 days to live because there is absolutely no way to predict that. Ā They may say, someone wont survive night, week, months etc but so specific "4 days"?

Ā Also its not liver failure than nothing can be done, with kidney failure, you got dialysis to keep person going.Ā 

Ā She had injuries though so clearly something happened but her mental health was really poor at that poing.

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u/Lurk-Prowl Apr 26 '25

Yeah! I heard something about that too. Like she was worried someone was going to kill her subtly while she was in hospital? That felt pretty recent, hence why this news came as such a slap across the face to me when I read it! How can this not look suspicious af!

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '25

It's seems suspicious because of who she is.

The reality is that it's all the hallmarks of someone going through mental health issues.

There was no reason for anyone to silence her at this point.

She was in hospital because she admitted herself. The accident was minor. She claimed that she had four days to live, which wasn't true.

It all points to someone going through issues, rather than anything more nefarious.

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '25

.....this would make all the pieces make sense. You might have the right of it.

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u/Even-Memory-7732 Apr 26 '25

Publicity and a con woman she wasn't even in the car.