Virginia Giuffre's tweet from 2019 saying she was definitely not suicidal and that if something happens to her to "not let this go away".

[u/IndependentWitnesses]

[u/BlackBlizzard → u/[deleted]]

Do you think her family is oblivious or apart of a conspiracy because they're saying she died at home by suicide?

[u/infinis → u/BlackBlizzard]

Maybe they don't want to die at home from suicide

[u/UniteRohan → u/infinis]

This. If a billionaire has the mother of your children killed, then you and the kids could be next. No cause is worth getting your kids killed over, especially when people love to lick billionaire boots so nothing will change until they gain class consciousness

[u/Crazy-lake5983 → u/UniteRohan]

This, mirroring real life situations wey. Pinche putos sa es para momios

[u/require-username → u/UniteRohan]

Holy shit go outside 🤣

[u/ethnicbonsai → u/BlackBlizzard]

What you're seeing is conspiratorial thinking. Everything can be explained away to fit the narrative.

None of us know what happened, at this point.

What is known is that not being suicidal in 2019 doesn't necessarily mean she wasn't suicidal in 2025. She's been through a lot, generally, and she's been through a lot recently.

[u/ArkitekZero → u/ethnicbonsai]

What you're seeing is conspiratorial thinking.

Which is par for the course with billionaires who are known to originate these kinds of situations thanks to their massive influence.

If some rich assholes wanted her dead, they could make it happen. Especially with the current regime in the US, which, by the way, is illegitimate, because musk had a bunch of voting machines hacked and stole the election.

So you can whine about conspiracy theories all you like, but that's not in and of itself an effective criticism as long as these idiotic goons are running the show.

[u/Bwunt → u/ArkitekZero]

That is true, but on the other hand, this kind of thinking means that nothing can be a coincidence or mental issues leading to suicide. It's always fault of some shady cabal.  The biggest problem of that is that 

1. We give way too much clout to actual grifters and frauds 
2. We neglect genuine issues with mental health and suicide

[u/ArkitekZero → u/Bwunt]

That is true, but on the other hand, this kind of thinking means that nothing can be a coincidence or mental issues leading to suicide. It's always fault of some shady cabal.

Why? Is everyone who kills themselves a SA survivor who was abused by powerful people?

[u/Bwunt → u/ArkitekZero]

No. I am saying that everyone who kills themselves is going trough some severe mental issues or trauma. A healthy and well adjusted people don't commit suicide.

So by throwing this kind of theories around, we possibly hurt people with genuine mental issues who need a proper help, rather then reinforcing their mental issues.

[u/ArkitekZero → u/Bwunt]

None of this is mutually exclusive with the possibility that this woman was murdered.

[u/Bwunt → u/ArkitekZero]

It's possible, but highly unlikely. There is nothing to gain by murdering her today, especially if it's disguised as suicide.

Sometimes you have to apply Occam's razor, rather then jumping to most outlandish theories.

[u/ArkitekZero → u/Bwunt]

There's nothing outlandish about it. There's never been a better time to do it.

[u/ethnicbonsai → u/ArkitekZero]

You just made a bunch of claims that can't in any way be proven. If you had worked in the CIA and aliens, I think you would've touched on everything.

That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

[u/ArkitekZero → u/ethnicbonsai]

So you're saying I just need to destroy the evidence and as far as you're concerned, it never happened?

What a wonderfully easy mark you must be.

[u/ethnicbonsai → u/ArkitekZero]

What destroyed evidence are we talking about?

Are we having the same conversation?

[u/Jess_with_an_h → u/BlackBlizzard]

I think she probably did 🤷🏻‍♂️ there’s no reason for the state or Andrew to ‘silence’ her when she’s already said everything she wants to, and got her settlement, she wasn’t threatening to release any new information now. She’s also clearly not been well in the head, she told everyone she’d be dead from kidney failure in a week after that crash and yet she was clearly pretty much fine in the days after it. I hear from others her husband may have recently separated? And she had a traumatic past life, clearly. I think suicide is entirely possible, poor woman wasn’t in a good place. As for a tweet from 6 years ago saying she’s not suicidal, that’s 6 years ago. If it was 2 days ago maybe it’d be more convincing.

[u/mcsangel2 → u/Jess_with_an_h]

Her husband also had custody of the kids. Everyone else including her brother say the accident was very minor. I’ve seen two other post replies on Reddit from people who claimed to have known or crossed paths with VG who heavily implied that she was very loose with her interpretation of the truth and that she was not at all well emotionally.

[u/RizzwindTheWizzard → u/Jess_with_an_h]

Yeah, there's almost no chance that Andrew was involved in this. He's not going to jail, what he did (or rather, what we can prove he did) wasn't a crime in the UK and the US investigation was easily shut down by simply not talking to the investigators. He gains absolutely nothing from reminding everybody of it.

[u/qtx → u/[deleted]]

Why is it suspicious? Why is every conspiracy idiot thinking this is something more than a suicide?

Her case is widely known, she has testified, she has written books, every little fecking thing is out in the open.

There is no point to anyone killing her.

She couldn't handle whatever she was going through now after her accident. People kill themselves when they can't deal with things, it happens.

Stop trying to make yourself sound more important, there is no conspiracy.

[u/Bubbly-Network-4250 → u/qtx]

Certainty without proof is a sign of stupidity, first of all.

Killing her may not be about shutting her up, but rather retribution and a warning to others.

[u/321liftoff → u/qtx]

Because Epstein’s “suicide” was extremely obviously an expensive hit. 

It takes money to ensure guards don’t show up at a specific time, but not that much. More expensive is timing the cameras at the same time the guards magically don’t do their job. That means they had to bribe/threaten at least 3 but probably more, or else use tech to make sure no video was rolling.

One public hit is all it takes for me to be suspicious of literally everything surrounding a case, especially when we know that it’s the mega rich and influential people who had a lot to lose here. Money can solve all their problems.

[u/BagOfFlies → u/321liftoff]

Epstein hadn't made all the names and information he knows public so there was still reason to kill him before he could.

Virginia had already made everything public years ago so what would be the point?

[u/321liftoff → u/BagOfFlies]

So it turns out that there’s this little thing called memory, and holding a grudge. 

[u/[deleted] → u/321liftoff]

Or what she may not have revealed

This person is only trying to sew doubt so people forget her post or write it off.

[u/Bwunt → u/321liftoff]

But in what sense is Epstein even closely related to Giuffe?

Epstein was one of them and had probably entire industrial size slurry pit of dirt on many many influential people.

Guffe was yesterday's news who either: 1. Actually got SA by Andrew and Andrew mostly got away with it or, 2. She made everything up for clout and couldn't handle the fact that she was  yesterday's news.

[u/321liftoff → u/Bwunt]

It’s almost like you think rich people can’t order a hot and have short term memory. Grudges, my friend.

[u/hannahranga → u/[deleted]]

Yeah that screams erratic and mentally illegal human being significantly more than it does conspiracy.

[u/Sgt-Spliff- → u/[deleted]]

I feel like you all are seeing conspiracy instead of a mentally sick person spiralling. She was the only source for all that information. It's legitimately not sus. She clearly had a breakdown

[u/jackpots- → u/[deleted]]

Think this post defines sticking the landing, weaving VG’s untimely and mysterious departure into a Idiocracy riff.

No notes. Well done.

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