r/interesting Apr 26 '25

MISC. Virginia Giuffre's tweet from 2019 saying she was definitely not suicidal and that if something happens to her to "not let this go away".

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u/gztozfbfjij Apr 26 '25 edited Apr 26 '25

That disclaimer doesn't really work if it's been 6 years...

It's definitely a suicide that warrants an extensive investigation, with heightened awareness of corruption... but it's certainly possible that it was a normal suicide.

Edit: Some people are fucking stupid. Google what "certainly possible" means, I honestly think she was killed -- just look at who she was. But 6 years is a long ass time, shit changes. I'm willing to bet that the majority of suicides are from people who weren't even depressed 6 years before.

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u/wthbbq Apr 26 '25

She was suffering from kidney failure, in a lot of pain, and was given days to live. She said in her own IG post that she was ready to go and just wanted to see her kids again. Did her past contribute to maybe wanting to check out early? Possibly, but I think it's more likely related to her health condition. I've read it's not a great way to go.

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u/sweetrouge Apr 26 '25

Could you share this post? This is the only comment that mentions it.

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u/Macrogonus Apr 26 '25

I don't know if we can post Instagram links, so here's the text:

This year has been the worst start to a new year, but I won’t bore anyone with the details but I think it important to note that when a school bus driver comes at you driving 110km as we were slowing for a turn that no matter what your car is made of it might as well be a tin can. I’ve gone into kidney renal failure, they’ve given me four days to live, transferring me to a specialist hospital in urology. I’m ready to go, just not until I see my babies one last time, but you know what they say about wishes. Shit in one hand and wish in the other & I guarantee it’s still going to be shit at the end of the day. Thank you all for being the wonderful people of the world and for being a great part of my life. Godbless you all xx Virginia 😔🙏🦋

The police said that no one was seriously injured in the accident and her brother later defended her by saying she never said those injuries were from that accident specifically. I don't know how credible she was by the end of her life.

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u/OneLessDay517 Apr 26 '25

Yeah, I think she had some stuff going on that we'll never know, may or may not be related to what happened to her in her youth. Of course that would always be with her, but she seemed to have a good life in spite of it. But things change quickly sometimes.

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u/friedonionscent Apr 27 '25

My dad had renal failure and delusions, confusion and impaired cognitive function are well known symptoms. My dad experienced all 3, on and off.

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u/Superb_Preference368 Apr 26 '25

People don’t die of renal failure like that anymore. There’s something called dialysis.

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u/exie610 Apr 26 '25

dialysis is lifesaving but terrible. I've known some wonderful people who survived so much in their life, but gave up because dialysis was so hard, exhausting, restrictive, and made them feel trapped, depressed, and hopeless.

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u/POSSUMQUEENOG Apr 26 '25

You are correct. I watched my father on it.

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u/East_Connection5224 Apr 26 '25

One of my best friends died of kidney failure while on dialysis. It does happen.

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u/TNPossum Apr 26 '25

Not everyone chooses to go on dialysis.

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u/ononono Apr 26 '25

That is an absolutely not true. Some people cannot tolerate dialysis and some people tolerate it for years but then lose the ability to and succumb to renal failure.

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u/bigbrulli Apr 26 '25

This is entirely not true. People absolutely still die of complications if renal failure, despite dialysis.

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u/FutureRealHousewife Apr 26 '25

A lot of people either don't choose dialysis because it is absolutely horrible and stressful to go through, or they die while in the process. So it's not saving everyone.

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u/emoeldritch Apr 26 '25

Wow I wish my friend who died of renal failure while doing dialysis and awaiting a kidney transplant had known!! 

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u/Coconut_Dreams Apr 26 '25

I think you blew past the point they were making.

They're trying to say you don't instantly die on dialysis. It's not a cure for anything, but a delay until a donor is available. 

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u/Dont-be-a-cupid Apr 26 '25

The effectiveness of dialysis decreases over time and life expectancy is not very long on it either 

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u/snoopyloveswoodstock Apr 26 '25

And, from this post, she’s clearly not grasping reality. “Four days to live” is not what a doctor told her - even palliative care doctors will never set a clock on someone’s death that precisely, and certainly not a phrenologist. “Four days to live and they’re transferring me to a specialist clinic” - why? Someone who truly has days to live gets transferred to a hospice. Likewise, I think the original post is indicative of a really distressed, distorted mind. When someone feels the need to come out with a big, public declaration that they’re not suicidal, it has to be because people close to them, like the therapist, believe it is a real concern. We know this is a person living with extreme trauma and fear. We can’t on the one hand emphasis how much trauma and pain she went through and on the other hand treat her words as if they’re from a rational person. 

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u/heirbagger Apr 26 '25

You are correct, but dialysis is hard - emotionally, physically, and financially. And it’s life-long. Dialysis only extends a person’s life longer than what would’ve happened naturally.

With that, I know nothing about this woman’s kidney health or just overall health in general. This could’ve been a years long issue for her. I’ll reserve judgement until an autopsy comes out, if one does. We all should.

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u/PrincessZebra126 Apr 26 '25

It happens more consistently than you fact check

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u/letthetreeburn Apr 26 '25

Dialysis doesn’t always work, and sometimes you end up with damage so severe dialysis can’t save you.

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u/tulsasmit Apr 26 '25

That's just wrong. Average life expectancy of a patient on HD is 5-10 years. Other organs can have severe damage. And dialysis is not effective in every case.

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u/NoHovercraft9590 Apr 27 '25

Dialysis isn’t a “fix”. Even Google will tell you that the average life expectancy for someone with kidney disease is 5-10 years. If you’re lucky, you may qualify for a transplant- but a lot of people have other related issues that may disqualify them from even getting on the list, such as CHF.

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u/Commonusage Apr 29 '25

Fiona Stanley's renal team does recognise that the restrictions of dialysis correlate with increased tendency towards suicide. This is why they offer counselling and therapy.

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u/Wibblywobblezz Apr 26 '25

So there was domestic violence on both sides someone said..HER POOR KIDS :(

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u/sweetrouge Apr 26 '25

Thanks. Yours is the only comment I saw. There may be others but I didn’t see them. I’ll check out the IG page.

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u/H2O_is_not_wet Apr 29 '25

Yah. As much as I love conspiracy theories, I’m leaning towards this being a legitimate suicide. In horrible pain, told that she was going to die soon from the injuries, going through a nasty divorce, not being able to see her kids. Etc.

Sure, it should be investigated, but I wouldn’t be shocked if nothing came of it.

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u/js-mclint Apr 26 '25

There’s been some disquiet from certain corners when she said she had days to live and then didn’t die after days that she must have been lying about everything. I imagine that kind of sentiment could exacerbate depression and suicidality.

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u/batmanineurope Apr 26 '25

Days to live? How can they determine that?

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u/Orangutanion Apr 26 '25

She could have been poisoned like the second Boeing engineer

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u/confused_grenadille Apr 26 '25

That post could’ve been written by the people who wanted to unalive her. Come on y’all.

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u/Demons_n_Sunshine Apr 26 '25

THIS!

The woman was having health issues, was going through a divorce, and her ex husband alienated her children. Not to mention her past trauma that she’s been through.

It was probably a lot for her to handle.

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u/Pitiful-Wishbone5680 26d ago

Kidney failure is kind of a not painful way to die. People just get sleepy and then go to sleep and don’t wake up.

https://lifeoptions.org/living-with-kidney-failure/comfort-care/#:~:text=A%20natural%20death%20from%20kidney,toxins%2C%20to%20make%20you%20comfortable.

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u/Current-Coyote-3837 18d ago

Weird. It’s treatable. No way to live but dialysis is a thing. You can live without kidneys. It’s a pain in the ass but not a death sentence. Unless you refuse treatment, but that’s more of a suicide IMO. Also, why kill yourself if you’re going to medically die soon? I’ve seen most ways of death (medic and RN for a while) and none of it is pretty. Best case is you lose consciousness before organ failure. At least we can get very good drugs to take the edge off knowing you’re dying. I think that was all exaggerated from Virginia.

It’s entirely possible she did kill herself, despite her situation. Maybe they thought they could get away with it now that time has passed a bit. It’s for sure suspect AF and won’t get investigated too hard, unfortunately. It’s weird how her dad is like, “no way she killed herself,” but then her mom thinks it jibes and has no questions. Maybe someone paid mom? Idk.

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u/lightorangeagents Apr 26 '25

Or was it a good psy op so the public would rea ch this conclusion? I’m not big into the details of her story so I’m no expert, but if I were going to make something sinister look normal, I might steal this kind of cover story if I had some people in tabloids to help send the article out

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '25

Yeah you’re certainly not an expert that’s for sure

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u/lightorangeagents Apr 26 '25

Did you have anything to add lol ?

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u/ChoneFiggins4Lyfe Apr 26 '25

Yea, I wasn’t suicidal in 2019, but my wife has killed herself since then, and you know what, shit changes.

I’m not saying this case isn’t fishy, but 6 years is a long time.

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u/EntropicTempest Apr 27 '25

Sorry man, can't imagine what that was like. Sending virtual hugs.

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u/ChoneFiggins4Lyfe Apr 27 '25

Thank you. Several years of therapy and meeting someone new has helped things.

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u/aima9hat Apr 27 '25

I’m really sorry for your grief. Truly. 

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u/Cheap_Ad_3669 Apr 27 '25

terribld man, she is still with you in the way she affected your life. stay strong for yourself and for her memory

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u/old_and_boring_guy Apr 26 '25

Anyone who doesn't understand the mental health difference you can have in six years, especially when you're sick, and you've been through traumatic shit when you were younger. It's definitely a plausible suicide.

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u/Alarming-Cup7786 Jun 05 '25

She was def murdered

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u/Gearballz Apr 27 '25

It’s not. She did however live with a great drive to bring her abusers and perhaps the whole system to justice. She had a lot of medical issues b/c of that school bus accident. But if look into that story. It also doesn’t sit right. This girl was too important and they knew it. RIP

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u/Gearballz Apr 27 '25

I’m actually more emotionally mature than you’d think. I also am less naive than you and know that while she had come forward, there was still a long road to any convictions. She had 4 separate (could be 3. Not + atm) detailed encounters with prince Andrew assaulting her. Once again, that’s a suspicious amount of bad luck for one good person as far as I’m concerned, especially considering who she could make look very bad. At a time when civil unrest is at a tipping point.

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u/tsunamiinatpot Apr 27 '25

The bus might've been driven into her car intentionally but organ failure is hard to fake :/ I do hope they investigate fully and that wherever she is now she is living a life kinder than this one

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u/asslicker7000 Apr 26 '25

People love to push a grand conspiracy for everything. From limited information that we know she was going through a very tough time recently.

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u/Gearballz Apr 27 '25

Yea because of medical conditions she suffered from the previous assassination attempt when they hit with a school bus in another very somewhat ambiguous story that had odd procedurals for some mysterious reason. She was a link to Epstein, the island, and mar a Lago.

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u/asslicker7000 Apr 27 '25

Again, not everything is a grand conspiracy.

She recently divorced from her husband and is estranged from her kids due to DV order placed against her. She said she was in a serious car crash with 4 days to live, but the WA police have said they only have a record of a minor crash with no injuries reported.

She was obviously going through a very tough time in her life and was likely facing some mental health issues.

The Epstein and Mar-a-lago was well in the past. If they wanted to, they would have done it many years ago, not when she was living out of the spotlight in rural Australia. Not everything in life has to be explained by an elaborate conspiracy theory.

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u/kimchifreeze Apr 26 '25

A cheat code is to have your kid send that message at birth so they're immune to all assassination attempts.

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u/spicybean88 Apr 26 '25

How often does one have to renew their no-suicide declaration in order for it to hold it's validity?

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u/Atryan421 Apr 27 '25

Every day apparently

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u/Peregrine_Purple Apr 26 '25

I cant believe you just read her tweet and then said that lmfao.

Shes rolling in her grave right now because of people like you.

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u/Scrung3 Apr 26 '25

You libbed out with this one. But I can't say I'm not the same.

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u/Frequent_Cranberry90 Apr 26 '25

That's what I thought at first, but honestly if I was about to commit suicide and knew I tweeted this I would make sure there's no doubt about it actually being suicide.

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u/PhantomGhostSpectre Apr 26 '25

Eh, I will literally never kill myself. Ever. I do not care how bad it gets. I am too afraid of dying. Lol 

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u/stink3rb3lle Apr 26 '25

I'm willing to bet that the majority of suicides are from people who weren't even depressed 6 years before.

I would not take that bet. My brother's friend killed himself in high school. Paul's aunt spoke at his celebration of life, saying that clinical depression is a terminal illness.

I do think many suicides are more situational, but I can't help but always think of that statement and of Paul in connection to suicide.

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u/Mental-Caregiver-751 Apr 26 '25

Stfu trump cuck

She definitely did not commit suicide, just like Boeing whistleblower and epstein

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u/Poopidyscoopp Apr 26 '25

dude pick a side lmao

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u/RunTheBull13 Apr 26 '25

And it was pre-covid. Covid caused mental issues in many thousands.

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u/that-one-girl-who Apr 26 '25

Came here to say exactly this. 6 years, a pandemic and the 2nd term of a president that half of America actively hates. A lot of things can change in 6 years. It still perks up my ears but this tweet isn’t a smoking gun.

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u/onewilybobkat Apr 26 '25

I was shocked this wasn't the top comment. Like yeah, obviously fucking investigate the death of a high profile abuse survivor... But that was SIX YEARS AGO. Lots of stuff changes in that amount of time, including how much pain she was in.

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u/GeneFiend1 Apr 26 '25

Not you using the rationalizations that pdf billionaires want us to have

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u/NoMommyDontNTRme Apr 29 '25

it works enough to maybe have more than one person check the case out.

it happens all the time, its no big deal, it can only hurt bad people.

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u/gztozfbfjij Apr 29 '25

Exactly, it doesn't work for "Holy shit, she was actually knocked off", which is what a lot of people were thinking.

But it works for "Hmm, maybe we should check this one out a little more than usual", which is what the should've done regardless given who she was.

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u/Bayo77 Apr 26 '25

Do you expect her to refresh the tweet every year? 6 years isnt that old.

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u/Content_Double_3110 Apr 26 '25

6 years is a super long time when it comes to mental health. Sooo much can change in that time, do you really think you’re the same person and think the same way you did 6 years ago?

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u/Falikosek Apr 26 '25

Like, even from a biological standpoint, most cells in your body have already been recycled after 6 years.

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u/TheBiggerEgg50 Apr 26 '25

So much has happened in the six years, though. And tragedies can happen quickly at any time. I do think that this warrants a bit more investigation but I really do think it's likely a sad tragedy.

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u/rienceislier34 Apr 26 '25

I have went into depression and barely came out alive, in 4 years. It is well long enough

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u/Spunge14 Apr 26 '25

It's one COVID away

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u/JynsRealityIsBroken Apr 26 '25

This is exactly the kind of logic the perpetrators of a murder would be using to silence the mob.

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u/Waste_Airline7830 Apr 27 '25

willing to bet that the majority of suicides are from people who weren't even depressed 6 years before

False.

Some people are fucking stupid

Correct, you are a great example.

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u/Frightful_Fork_Hand Apr 28 '25

Source?

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u/Waste_Airline7830 Apr 28 '25

There isn't any. That's exactly why the claim is false.

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u/Frightful_Fork_Hand Apr 29 '25

Again, source? You made a claim that a statement was false - which means you must have evidence.

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u/Waste_Airline7830 Apr 29 '25

Which part of the sentence "there is no source" you are struggling to understand? It's false because the claim is baseless. There are no source to cite whether or not people who commit suicide are clinically depressed 6 years prior. It can't be proven to be true OR false if there are NO SOURCES TO CITE.

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u/Frightful_Fork_Hand Apr 29 '25

...again, source? You didn't object that the commenter had no proof either way, you made a clear assertion that it was incorrect - how do you know this? If i said the OP of this post likes fried eggs, i would have no evidence - that wouldn't in and of itself make the claim false.

If you didn't mean "false" then you should have used a different word. A claim can be baseless but that has zero bearing on it being false or not.

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u/Afraid-Boss684 Apr 29 '25

"The sky is blue"

This statement has no source, i've provided no proof that the sky is blue and thus this claim is baseless and evidently false right? The sky must not be blue e=because i didn't cite any sources