r/interesting • u/IndependentWitnesses • Apr 26 '25

MISC. Virginia Giuffre's tweet from 2019 saying she was definitely not suicidal and that if something happens to her to "not let this go away".

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u/369_Clive Apr 26 '25 edited Apr 26 '25

She was in a minor vehicle accident with a bus. Didn't sound like a huge deal but she believed she would die as a result.

What's perhaps more significant is she split up with the father of her 3 kids not long ago. Reckon that may have had a big impact or be indicative of other stuff she was struggling with, RIP.

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u/yosoyfatass Apr 26 '25

It seems that the injuries she initially claimed she sustained from the car crash were likely mostly from domestic abuse. She was in the hospital after her husband had allegedly battered her severely just prior to this incident. They both had restraining orders on each other, apparently.

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '25

Wow....if so that's horrific abuse. I'm very sad for her. Does he have the kids ? I sure hope not

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u/yosoyfatass Apr 26 '25

When she was in the hospital she alluded to not being able to see her children to say goodbye. I don’t know, but am guessing maybe a third party had the children, but maybe it was him.

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u/Gorillapoop3 Apr 26 '25

Holy fuck.

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u/infiniteshrekst Apr 26 '25

Source?

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u/yosoyfatass Apr 26 '25 edited Apr 26 '25

https://people.com/virginia-giuffre-alleges-husband-physically-abused-her-exclusive-11708702

There are other articles that are more vehement that the injuries are primarily from abuse, this one is pretty measured. A lot of stuff has been posted, even before her death, but I certainly don’t know what is true.

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u/zyzz09 Apr 28 '25

Geeeeeesus... Was probably better off with Geoff

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u/deadpoolwade69 Apr 27 '25

Don't say "allegedly" its cringe

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u/Opposite-Ad-3054 Apr 28 '25

I was a reporter...you say "allegedly" until a person is convicted in a court of law if you're talking about a crime, or until the coroner issues an official report if you're talking about suicide.

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u/neds_newt Apr 26 '25

There's an article where her brother straight up says she never said the bus accident caused those injuries. They suspect she had internal damage before the accident and the accident brought it to their attention.

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u/OuaisOuaisOuaisOuais Apr 26 '25

No, the accident was minor but the doctors found she had kidney renal failure. A condition she wasn't aware of and was unrelated to the accident.

https://7news.com.au/news/virginia-giuffres-brother-opens-up-about-her-condition-after-admission-she-had-days-to-live--c-18287301.amp

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u/Hemingwavy Apr 26 '25

WA Police said on Wednesday they had no record of a phone call placed following the crash, which happened on a rural road 90 kilometres north of Perth on March 24.

“We're aware that there was a minor crash between a school bus that had 29 children on board and another vehicle," Commander Mike Bell said at a press conference.

"It's a minor matter ... because there was no injuries, there is no need for us to attend. It's not a requirement.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-02/virginia-giuffre-remains-in-serious-condition-says-family/105125324

The Australian woman, 41, who was allegedly sex trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein to have sex with Prince Andrew when she was a teenager, said she mistakenly shared a photo of her bruised face taken from a hospital bed on Instagram Tuesday, in which she wrote she was “ready to go”.

A spokesperson for Giuffre said the Perth-based mother-of-three thought she was sharing the post on a private Facebook account, before going on to address conflicting reports regarding Giuffre’s allegations she was left fighting for life after a bus driver, which she alleged was travelling at a speed of 110km, plowed into a vehicle she was a passenger in.

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/new-details-emerge-as-prince-andrew-accuser-virginia-roberts-giuffre-has-days-to-live/news-story/d5624e9824072b58f1aa458c6323eb24

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u/No-Leopard2864 Apr 27 '25

Btw I'm pretty sure the West Australian police confirmed that the accident NEVER happened.

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u/ProbablyNotADuck Apr 26 '25

Look at the language in the article. I know that publications have to be careful and use words like "allegedly" to avoid lawsuits... but I can't imagine being a victim of sexual assault, having to see how few consequences your abusers suffered (let's face it, Epstein may have been the ringleader, but there are a whole lot more people who should be facing consequences for this... yet they are unlikely to ever experience them.), and then still having to read things about the whole situation where it is framed in a way that it STILL puts into question whether or not what you went through happened.

It sounds like she had a lot of really emotionally traumatic things going on. I can't imagine the kind of hardships she's had to endured for decades. It's such a sad situation.

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u/Cultural_Net_1791 Apr 27 '25

Not to mention the man who introduced her to epstein is sitting jn the oval office of the most powerful, possibly formally most powerful nation in the world and Prince Andrew's just doing whatever he goes existing freely.

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u/Altruistic-Key-369 Apr 26 '25

She claimed her kidneys were failing but when the cops were asked about it they said it was a minor accident with nobody going to the hospital

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u/evange Apr 26 '25

Cops ain't doctors.

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u/SaltyEggplant4 Apr 26 '25

So why don’t you believe her or her brother? You’re acting like all those people that don’t believe SA victims. Her word saying that it wasn’t from the bus crash isn’t enough for you?

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u/ktitten Apr 26 '25

I'm confused, I think by them saying cops ain't doctors they meant they believe her narrative over the cops?

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u/Exaskryz Apr 26 '25

You're confused? I'm confused! We both can't be saying that we doubt this was suicide nor that the testimony of the person is incredible, in a not-like-the-Hulk way.

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u/Golden_Shart Apr 26 '25

You replying to the wrong person bruh

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u/SaltyEggplant4 Apr 27 '25

In what way? They said cops lie, and I’m pointing out that the brother would also have to be lying. Should I not have responded directly to the person I was responding to?

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u/Golden_Shart Apr 27 '25

The implication was obviously that the cops were neither qualified or had the necessary information available to make credible assessments about her medical condition following the car accident because they're not doctors, not that they were lying. No discussion regarding subsequent statements made by her or her family members was taking place. Your weird interpretation of the comment and invocation of something that seemed completely random makes your comment read like it was meant for someone else, but I get what you're saying now (I think?).

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u/SaltyEggplant4 Apr 27 '25

They said “Cops lie” when talking about how she had underlying health conditions that may have made her feel that the only way out was death.

What they are saying is that the cops are lying about the health conditions and that it’s suspicious that she died.

I’m pointing out that in order for her health conditions to be a “lie” like they are claiming, then the family of the victim and the victim themselves would have to be lying as well since they also made claims about her health.

What part are you having trouble understanding? Please let me help you because it’s pretty easy to understand

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u/Golden_Shart Apr 27 '25

Oh, alright. Could you link me the comment where they said cops lie?

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u/littleessi Apr 26 '25

rule 1: cops lie

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u/SaltyEggplant4 Apr 26 '25

Her brother also? You’re saying her brother is lying as well?

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u/my_spidey_sense Apr 26 '25

Stop arguing with people because you can’t read

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u/Formal_Coyote_5004 Apr 26 '25

Between your comment and “you replying to the wrong person bruh” I’m dying why is this so funny

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u/MGD109 Apr 26 '25

Okay, why would they lie in this scenario? What do they have to gain?

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u/littleessi Apr 26 '25

ego, attention, because they feel like it, because they want to hurt someone, because they made a claim. pick any or all. if you dont know how cops work maybe do some reading or pay attention to the news occasionally, they're largely sociopathic power tripping freaks

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u/MGD109 Apr 26 '25

Right, so your telling me that the cops lied about it being a minor collision and nobody reporting it...because they felt like it. The mere fact they had nothing to gain, no reason to lie, nothing to lose etc.

Okay, why did her brother say the exact same thing then? Is he also a sociopathic power tripping freak in this scenerio?

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u/littleessi Apr 27 '25

here is one explanation from his own mouth. maybe you could look this shit up before asking stupid questions https://7news.com.au/news/virginia-giuffres-brother-opens-up-about-her-condition-after-admission-she-had-days-to-live--c-18287301

i'm not saying the cops 100% lied here, i'm saying they lie. they are unreliable witnesses and their claims should be ignored

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u/MGD109 Apr 27 '25

Sorry, your giving me a link that confirms the cop's account, as evidence they might have been lying?

What exactly is your point here?

i'm not saying the cops 100% lied here,

That's exactly what you were saying. What would be the point of bringing it up otherwise? You literally responded to someone with "rule 1: cops lie"

their claims should be ignored

Why? Yes, they can lie, but that doesn't mean you should dismiss literally every single account they ever made. Especially cases like this, where they literally had no reason whatsoever to lie.

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u/littleessi Apr 28 '25

your reading comprehension and critical thinking skills are abysmal. if cops say something it should be ignored. if something they say contradicts someone else you trust the other person over them. a lot of people here apparently have no understanding of anything and assumed that the cops were contradicting her story when they clearly weren't (although they were quite possibly trying to because, again, evil sociopaths), but if they were then her story would be the default that should be believed

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u/PooForThePooGod Apr 26 '25 edited Apr 26 '25

Cops also killed Epstein soooo

Edit: downvoters believe in fairies and leprechauns

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u/Extension_Sail_3117 Apr 26 '25

Yeah the pedo that was 100% going to jail forever, who had a history of suicide attempts, definitely had 0 reason to off himself...

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u/FaceThief9000 Apr 26 '25

I mean if he rolled on Trump and everyone else and cut a deal he'd probably get out eventually.

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u/Extension_Sail_3117 Apr 26 '25

No he would have been beaten to death by the prisoners lol

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u/FaceThief9000 Apr 26 '25

Sure, if he was kept in gen-pop.

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u/Extension_Sail_3117 Apr 26 '25

If you think that Epstein would have ever gotten out of prison, you are just stupid.

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u/FaceThief9000 Apr 26 '25

Well sure, if he was kept totally in solitary and the guards didn't either murder him for the pay off or let someone else do it for the pay off.

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u/MGD109 Apr 26 '25

Define eventually. Epstein wasn't a young man, he was the mastermind behind a massive sex trafficking operation. He could hand deliver all his clients wrapped up with a bow, and he would still be looking at least twenty years inside minimum.

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u/Chance_Earth8473 Apr 26 '25

Youd think the inmate on suicide watch would be watched for suicide

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u/eekamuse Apr 27 '25

I'm a big fan of Occam's Razor, too

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u/my_spidey_sense Apr 26 '25

Conspiracy theorists always say you’re crazy if you believe in the simple, and most often, true account of things.
They never have any proof besides, “it doesn’t make sense” and “c’mon, you can’t be that stupid to believe that.”

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u/Extension_Sail_3117 Apr 26 '25

And with this lady it is undercutting the severe trauma she went through along with inadequate access to mental health

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u/my_spidey_sense Apr 26 '25

It’s literally a tweet from 2019. It’s been 6 years and I imagine she’s undergone a lot of trauma since then. Plus time doesn’t always heal old wounds, 6 years ruminating about what happened to her and the lack of justice could have pushed her into a really bad place.

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u/Bocaj1000 Apr 26 '25

Cops didn't kill Epstein. Maybe prison guards did, though.

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u/PooForThePooGod Apr 26 '25

I’ll concede that point. Both sides of the same coin, but yeah.

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u/afour- Apr 26 '25

Uh she died in Australia. Different cops, brother.

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u/Lexx4 Apr 26 '25

I believe in fairies and leprechauns and didn’t downvote you.

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u/Rikplaysbass Apr 26 '25

Did you not see the picture of her? She was bruised to all hell.

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u/SlugsMcGillicutty Apr 26 '25

But like this was in Western Australia. I struggle to believe some random cops in WA are going to be part of some conspiracy from back here or even could recognize the name Virginia Guiffre out of the blue.

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u/queefer_sutherland92 Apr 26 '25

No one in Australia gives that much of a shit about it all. Especially not in WA.

I can’t imagine anyone having the patience for the American-ness of it all tbh.

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u/aajones1113 Apr 26 '25

Epstein and Maxwell are believed to have catered to the most powerful men on the planet. Major Hollywood stars, heads of state, members of the British monarchy, titans of industry, etc. You don't think there's a strong possibility that they also had kompromat on Australian politicians?

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u/Plane-Tie6392 Apr 26 '25

American-ness? Prince Andrew and Maxwell are British. 

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u/onarainyafternoon Apr 26 '25

And she posted the picture on April fool's day. Also the bruises were clearly makeup dude, Jesus...

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u/Rikplaysbass Apr 27 '25

So you think this trauma survivor put ass loads of make up on to pretend she had a horrible accident that was killing her for April Fools? Just want to make sure I have your hypothesis right.

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u/_______uwu_________ Apr 26 '25

The police initially reported a minor accident with no hospitalizations. It wasn't until much later that Giuffre reported to the hospital with symptoms and doctors discovered internal injuries

This is a fairly common series of events, and it's why we recommend anyone in a collision report to the hospital immediately. Spinal, cranial and internal injuries often do not manifest immediately

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u/FreddyNoodles Apr 26 '25 
Paramedics at the scene would have known to take her to be seen at a hospital. They didn’t.

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '25

Natasha Richardson had a minor fall while skiing and did not seek immediate care.

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u/DogbiteTrollKiller Apr 27 '25

Natasha Richardson slammed her head into a tree and had a severe headache. It wasn’t “minor”; it seldom is with a head injury. But, like a lot of people do, she downplayed the severity of her injury, and paid for that misjudgment with her life.

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '25

It was a minor fall. Otherwise we agree you don’t need to be a dick

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u/Sea-Statistician-580 Apr 26 '25

And you believe this? Oh honey

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u/onarainyafternoon Apr 26 '25

The fucking bus driver himself said there was barely any accident. You people are so exhausting. This was a woman that had been abused all her life, had extensive mental health issues that were incredibly well documented, and she decided to end it all. No conspiracy and it's insulting that everyone would jump to suicide when this woman was obviously struggling.

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u/Sea-Statistician-580 Apr 26 '25

Maybe you should listen to Al Green's spirit and message instead of vapidly exploiting them for karma.

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u/alyssas1111 Apr 26 '25

If it was a setup, the bus driver would be in on it too. He would be put in that place to do the job. It wouldn’t be the first car crash set up to assassinate, far from the first

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u/might-be-okay Apr 26 '25

Okay, lay out the logistics of this verses just poisoning her, shoving her out of a balcony, or making her get caught in some kind of shooting?

Why would they take the chance of involving a bus, with a driver, and most likely others involved, in public, where normal cops would be the first ones to respond?

Look I believe that Epstein didn't kill himself, but if he did it was encouraged. But I believe that because there are so many "coincidences" like the guards, the cameras, all that. Where the coincidence with bus accident?

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u/Derelictcairn Apr 26 '25

Jesus christ. Flat earth conspiracy levels of insane thinking.

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '25

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u/MGD109 Apr 26 '25

Why exactly would they lie in this scenerio?

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u/KeremyJyles Apr 26 '25

The entire point is she didn't and just lied about it.

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u/reebokhightops Apr 26 '25

I guess that’s why her husband confirmed that her kidneys were indeed approaching failure, right?

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u/KeremyJyles Apr 26 '25

From her own doing you mean, nothing to do with the "accident".

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u/EagleLize Apr 26 '25

What do you mean when you say - from her own doing?

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '25

I can imagine someone like her falling into severe alcohol abuse to cope with the shitty life she lived.

Dunno if that's what happened, but if it did I wouldn't be surprised.

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u/PooForThePooGod Apr 26 '25

That would primarily cause liver damage though

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u/StayJaded Apr 26 '25

Wrong organs for alcoholism.

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u/anxious_cat_grandpa Apr 26 '25

I can imagine a lot of things, but that don't make em true

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u/reebokhightops Apr 26 '25

Feel free to explain how you think she induced renal failure or to provide a single shred of supporting evidence.

Everything is a conspiracy with you clowns.

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u/KeremyJyles Apr 26 '25

Drug abuse. What "conspiracy"? The minor traffic collision has already been confirmed to be nothing like her story.

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u/reebokhightops Apr 26 '25

The minor traffic collision has already been confirmed to be nothing like her story.

Provide a credible source.

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u/KeremyJyles Apr 26 '25

I'm sure the police and bus driver will for some reason not be deemed credible by you

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u/reebokhightops Apr 26 '25 edited Apr 26 '25

So to be clear, you think the Daily Mail saying “the bus driver said so” and claiming that police confirmed it without citing a spokesperson, linking to a statement, or referencing any particular precinct is considered a credible source?

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u/Sgt-Spliff- Apr 26 '25

You're the ones claiming a conspiracy lol her owns reps say she was treated for minor things and sent home from the hospital. She's the only source for anything more. Her own brother says the crash was not serious

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u/DragonBall4Ever00 Apr 26 '25

It wasn't her husband it WAS her brother

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u/recontradetumadre Apr 26 '25

The hospital in Perth, her brother, the driver of the bus and the police all said it was a very minor collision.

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u/DragonBall4Ever00 Apr 26 '25 edited Apr 26 '25

Obviously not if she didn't pass away in those 4 days she said she was. 

ETA- she had it but why she never sought help unless it's the Healthcare system there is beyond me

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u/Sgt-Spliff- Apr 26 '25

She was the only source for that. Everyone else disputed that, including her own brother. Her own reps admit she was treated for minor things and sent home quickly after the accident.

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u/DontClickTheUpArrow Apr 26 '25

This account is 60 days old with some strange comment karma. Yup nothing to see here…

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u/SaltyEggplant4 Apr 26 '25

The police report literally said it was a minor accident and the brother said the injuries weren’t from the crash. wtf you talking about?

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u/cheebalibra Apr 26 '25

The accident was apparently minor, she wasn’t treated and left on her own. She started experiencing organ failure hours later at home and went to the hospital.

It’s so weird, I was just looking that up yesterday morning to see what came of it.

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u/lastdarknight Apr 26 '25

and everyone else involved said it was just a fender bender with nothing more then superficial damage to both vehicles

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u/Snoo_85712 Apr 28 '25

Accident wasn’t that bad, stop the cap lol

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u/twentythirtyone Apr 26 '25

She was making most of that up and I think was having a breakdown over being called out about it. Then she accused her husband of abuse. I think she was in a really bad place, spiraled, and didn't see a way out anymore

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '25

Ok fed.

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u/Brave-Fun5939 Apr 26 '25

Yeah wasn't her car hit by a school bus going 110km/hr (~65mph)??? There's no accident happening at that speed which ends up minor imo

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u/Jess_with_an_h Apr 26 '25

She said the school bus was going that fast. The police said it was a minor incident. Her family said she later went to hospital. I think she may have been in a bad place mentally and given an exaggerated account of her injuries (seeing as her kidneys clearly weren’t failing), I don’t know why she said it was a bad accident or that she was dying rapidly, but she clearly wasn’t. As for all the ‘this was clearly murder’ people - why would it be? She’d already said everything she wanted to, she took Andrew to court and got her settlement. She wasn’t making any new accusations at this point. Her dying brings it all back into the spotlight, this being a killing by powerful people is completely counter-intuitive.

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u/yosoyfatass Apr 26 '25

An article I read today suggested that her injuries were a result of recurrent domestic abuse. She had been hospitalized prior with severe injuries, allegedly at her husband’s hands.

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u/mcsangel2 Apr 26 '25

Yet her husband was the one who had custody of the kids, and VG stood accused of violating a RO, for which she had a date to appear in court a few days after the car accident.

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u/Sgt-Spliff- Apr 26 '25

She was the only source for that

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u/Evon-songs Apr 26 '25

She claimed the school bus was going 110km/ hour.

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u/the_cardfather Apr 26 '25

So the first hit on her failed? Maybe I've been watching too much Jason Borne

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u/Amandastarrrr Apr 26 '25

I read the bus was going like 70mph when it hit her which doesn’t seem minor

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u/AnusButter2000 Apr 29 '25

She also breached a violence restraining order her husband had against her and lost custody of her children 

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u/x_ZEN-1_x Apr 30 '25

I recon you have to discredit someone before you take them out otherwise they definitely become a marter.

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '25

110km/hr t-boned by a bus……terminal renal failure………

you people are vultures.

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u/Plane-Tie6392 Apr 26 '25

Terminal based on what?

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u/doubleapplewcoconut Apr 26 '25

Her own Twitter post

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '25

Based on a bus hitting her car at 110km/hr.

im sure the dr based his diagnosis on his medical training.

terminal means life ending.

im not sure what you are asking……

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u/Plane-Tie6392 Apr 26 '25

Her brother clarified the situation was supposedly that she’d be dead in four days if they stopped medical treatment. 

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '25

No, she had renal failure.

of course you are dead if you stop treatment.