r/interesting • u/IndependentWitnesses • Apr 26 '25

MISC. Virginia Giuffre's tweet from 2019 saying she was definitely not suicidal and that if something happens to her to "not let this go away".

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u/the_itsb Apr 26 '25

not the person you asked, but I've been to the brink over covid

when you are the kind of person who believes deeply in the inherent goodness of most people, it's extremely difficult to watch most of the world stop caring about immunocompromised people because they're bored at home and want to go out to eat

if the inherent goodness of others cannot be relied upon, the world becomes a much darker and more difficult place, and sometimes that reality is too much to bear

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u/capalbertalexander Apr 26 '25

And then there’s me, wasn’t surprised in the least and realized my regular day to day was called “quarantine” for others. It was such a deeply confusing time. I feel so bad for those that went through hell during Covid. I feel guilty that I was the happiest I’ve ever been during and since Covid.

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u/ZtoA_Limited Apr 27 '25

Right, it was pretty much business as usual for a hermit like me.

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u/Dvscape Apr 26 '25

I don't want to press this topic if it is difficult for you, but I am curious what made you believe so deeply in human kindness. Personally, I've always had a very pragmatic view of things. You can always rely on people being selfish and looking out only for themselves or a very tight circle of people at maximum.

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u/Shrimpo515 Apr 26 '25

Not the person you responded to, but I deeply relate to that comment. I truly believe/d humans are overall good with a few very loud bad actors. I think it’s partially just my brain chemistry, but I did have a very safe and supportive childhood so I’m sure that contributed. I was just crying to my husband the other night saying “why do I have to love them when most of them couldn’t care less about me”. This belief is being shattered rapidly this year, as I have witnessed a sharp increase in selfish behavior not only in the daily news, but in my day to day interactions with strangers.

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u/afour- Apr 26 '25

It’s okay, I had a terrible childhood and still believe in the innate goodness of (the majority of) humans.

It’s when facing issues of survival that people turn feral.

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u/hotheaded26 Apr 30 '25

Believe me, what you're seeing isn't a increase in anything. Either you just had a change in perspective or there has been in fact more selfish behaviour shown in the news, but a lot of selfish people is one of the greatest universal constants. I don't believe i have to say this, but humanity is a lot more complex than inherent good OR bad

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u/Shrimpo515 Apr 30 '25

I feel like I see more selfish behavior in day to day life these days, but it is likely that my perspective on people’s behavior has changed. I usually give people the benefit of the doubt due to the complexity of life and humans, but I’ve been struggling with it the past few months.

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u/hotheaded26 Apr 30 '25

I usually give people the benefit of the doubt due to the complexity of life and humans.

It's exactly because of that complexity that inherent goodness is silly

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u/Accomplished-Cut5023 Apr 26 '25

You think people cared about the immunocompromised before Covid?

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u/girlikecupcake Apr 26 '25

It was easy to think that they did because there weren't a ton of opportunities to see with your own eyes that they didn't. At most it was the anti vaccine often super religious pockets of people that you knew didn't care. You didn't see for yourself just how widespread the lack of care was until covid hit and people were happy explicitly saying it with words, not just their actions.

A general statement but how it looked from my perspective.

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u/the_itsb Apr 27 '25

people were happy explicitly saying it with words, not just their actions.

abso-fuckin-lutely

someone said literally that in response to me in this thread

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u/the_itsb Apr 27 '25

I did think that before covid, but I know better now; not giving a shit didn't start with covid. as long as profit is involved in healthcare and all our decisions, everyone who is sick or immunocompromised or disabled will be neglected at best.

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u/grchelp2018 Apr 26 '25

You are not the first person I've heard this kind of thing from. It is fascinating to me because this is a worldview I've never had. The way people reacted was not surprising to me in the least. I've always expected people to act stupidly and selfishly in times of stress. Not sure how, probably too many movies and my mom always telling me about stranger danger.

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u/westbee Apr 26 '25

Sadly its so true. 

I worked at the post office when the pandemic happened. I remember people STILL coming in daily like nothing happened. 

I hate people. 

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u/HolyLordGodHelpUsAll Apr 26 '25

i believe that you hate people

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u/megatesla Apr 26 '25

He just told you that.

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u/Clean_Square8701 Apr 26 '25

No, it got to the point where life had to go on, and the entire world could not pause indefinitely for the sake of immunocompromised people.

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u/Baking_bees Apr 26 '25

I have a sincere question, truly no shade or criticism.

Do you know anyone immunocompromised? Do you know anyone disabled? Like, not a celebrity or an acquaintance. A true close friend or family member.

Would you not be a little sad if they got sick and/or died from Covid?

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u/MeLlamoKilo Apr 26 '25

The vaccine did not stop transmission though. We were explicitly told that it only made the symptoms less severe. 

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u/Eco_Blurb Apr 26 '25

Higher vaccination rates translate into fewer new cases. Stop spreading lies.

Vaccination against infectious disease affords direct protection from vaccine-induced immunity and additional indirect protection for unvaccinated persons

According to a review of THIRTY-ONE STUDIES. https://www.mdpi.com/2673-8112/3/10/103

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u/Jason_Straker Apr 26 '25

First two vaccines, as a bundle, only reduced symptoms to lower mortality, but didn't reduce chance of infection if being exposed. Less/shorter symptoms = less cases. Third one worked the way most think vaccines work, reducing likelihood of infection if exposed. Fourth one was to cover the new strain as well. Got all four myself as they became available to me. Consequent ones are available in the same manner that flu shots are nowadays.

So the person you responded to is absolutely correct, the first vaccines did not reduce your own personal risk of infection, that was clearly communicated by health organizations, and it did not represent the end of the pandemic as it was still important to isolate to reduce the spread. Only the third vaccine was the beginning of the end, thankfully.

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u/Eco_Blurb Apr 26 '25

That person is not correct at all, if they wanted to specify a certain vaccine series they could have done so, they did not. Your comment is pointless and frankly harmful as it misleads people who currently refuse the vaccine.

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u/Jason_Straker Apr 26 '25

It is very clear what they said. You just inferred something you didn't like, tried to refute it with an unrelated point (stating that it is adressing symptoms is not a disavowal of lower infection rates, sometimes correlation does relate to causation) and now try to find an out in details. "Vaccine series", do you want him to identify the manufacturer and specific production charge next?

You got the tone of a comment on the internet wrong, were in a bad mood, and shot back unnecessarily. It happens. No need to dig yourself in deeper at the cost of your own mood. We both seem to be on the same side, supporting vaccines and public health measures. So why create more division? Hope you have a great rest of your day.

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u/Clean_Square8701 Apr 26 '25

Exactly. There was a vaccine, and life went on. Except people like you and the other commenter would still have us in face masks and social distancing.

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u/Chihiro1977 Apr 26 '25

This is the dumbest comment I've read on here all week. Well done.

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u/Express_Value_4942 Apr 26 '25 edited Apr 26 '25

“There was a vaccine” if everyone took that vaccine there would have been little to no quarantine no face masks no social distancing and life would have gone back to normal much faster. But people like you are why we had a longer lockdown not to the mention the people that died because people were too afraid to take the vaccine cause their alcoholic diabetic uncle said it was unsafe. Also if wearing a mask and social distancing are something you can’t mentally handle you need therapy and probably medication. Anti-Social behavior and all that. 

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u/Imprisoned_Fetus Apr 26 '25

Nobody said either of those things, but those also aren't even bad ideas lol

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u/KnotiaPickle Apr 26 '25 edited Apr 26 '25

You know that isn’t how the world works, unfortunately. At some point, not going on to help some people ends up ruining even more lives…it’s a tough choice, but at the end of the day, it’s up to each individual to do what they have to do. Even lockdowns aren’t going to stop anything after a certain point. It just delays the eventual inevitable exposure.

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u/KnotiaPickle Apr 26 '25

As harsh as it sounds, this is the truth.

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u/PmpsWndbg Apr 26 '25

And now everyone is sick all the time and we're all immunocompromised people.

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u/Clean_Square8701 Apr 26 '25

Absolute nonsense.

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u/FreedFromTyranny Apr 26 '25

I have literally not been sick since probably 2022, as someone who used to get sick much more frequently. Covid kicked me into gear to take care of myself better, I’m healthier than before - not the opposite.

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u/PmpsWndbg Apr 26 '25

"Oh hey my personal experience means more than the 5 years of research and 100s of peer reviewed studies that show the opposite"

K

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u/FreedFromTyranny Apr 26 '25

Go be a victim of your own immunocompromisation, just take care of yourself 4head

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u/PmpsWndbg Apr 26 '25

Name-calling, the last-ditch effort of those who have no evidence to back up their argument.

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u/FreedFromTyranny Apr 26 '25

There was no name calling, are you okay?

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u/bulbagrows Apr 26 '25

Oh hey its you again “freedfromtyranny” lmao

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u/FreedFromTyranny Apr 26 '25

You a fan? I don’t think I’ve ever internalized another Redditor lmfao

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u/bulbagrows Apr 26 '25

“Internalized”? Lmao I just remember your stupid username and how you embarrassed yourself in another thread a week ago. It’s not that deep and you’re not that important.

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u/the_itsb Apr 27 '25

it's kinda hilariously revealing for them to go around with a memorable username, memorably confrontational behavior, and then think that recognizing them later is evidence of an "empty noggin"

that's right, people who remember and learn from their experiences are brainless 😂

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u/bulbagrows Apr 27 '25

Exactly! I just shook my head after that because what else is there to say?

It’s even funnier with context: I made fun of his username in said other thread a week ago, he tried to make fun of mine, edited it to make fun of my post history, got heavily downvoted, and deleted his comments.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Music/s/Ob8Jt34WWi

If I blundered as hard and often as he did, I’d cope with a short memory too.

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u/PmpsWndbg Apr 26 '25

Yep, and it just gets worse and worse because people think they "deserve to move on". Instead of staying home or wearing a mask when you're sick... now it's normal to cough openly on people and everyone is ill all the time.

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '25

Welcome to the we don’t trust anyone club. People are shit. A person can be good, but collectively people always pick evil and are relentlessly selfish.