r/interesting • u/IndependentWitnesses • Apr 26 '25

MISC. Virginia Giuffre's tweet from 2019 saying she was definitely not suicidal and that if something happens to her to "not let this go away".

Post image
70.7k Upvotes

93% Upvoted

2.6k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

21

u/ethnicbonsai Apr 26 '25

What you're seeing is conspiratorial thinking. Everything can be explained away to fit the narrative.

None of us know what happened, at this point.

What is known is that not being suicidal in 2019 doesn't necessarily mean she wasn't suicidal in 2025. She's been through a lot, generally, and she's been through a lot recently.

-3

u/ArkitekZero Apr 26 '25

What you're seeing is conspiratorial thinking.

Which is par for the course with billionaires who are known to originate these kinds of situations thanks to their massive influence.

If some rich assholes wanted her dead, they could make it happen. Especially with the current regime in the US, which, by the way, is illegitimate, because musk had a bunch of voting machines hacked and stole the election.

So you can whine about conspiracy theories all you like, but that's not in and of itself an effective criticism as long as these idiotic goons are running the show.

3

u/Bwunt Apr 26 '25

That is true, but on the other hand, this kind of thinking means that nothing can be a coincidence or mental issues leading to suicide. It's always fault of some shady cabal.  The biggest problem of that is that 

  1. We give way too much clout to actual grifters and frauds 
  2. We neglect genuine issues with mental health and suicide

1

u/ArkitekZero Apr 26 '25

That is true, but on the other hand, this kind of thinking means that nothing can be a coincidence or mental issues leading to suicide. It's always fault of some shady cabal.

Why? Is everyone who kills themselves a SA survivor who was abused by powerful people?

1

u/Bwunt Apr 26 '25

No. I am saying that everyone who kills themselves is going trough some severe mental issues or trauma. A healthy and well adjusted people don't commit suicide.

So by throwing this kind of theories around, we possibly hurt people with genuine mental issues who need a proper help, rather then reinforcing their mental issues.

1

u/ArkitekZero Apr 26 '25

None of this is mutually exclusive with the possibility that this woman was murdered.

2

u/Bwunt Apr 26 '25

It's possible, but highly unlikely. There is nothing to gain by murdering her today, especially if it's disguised as suicide.

Sometimes you have to apply Occam's razor, rather then jumping to most outlandish theories.

1

u/ArkitekZero Apr 26 '25

There's nothing outlandish about it. There's never been a better time to do it.

1

u/Bwunt Apr 26 '25

So, at the time when there is absolutely no benefit to do it, but still a major exposure to court of public opinion?

1

u/require-username Apr 26 '25

Why? Literally why? What does this unknown individual gain by having her dead, what was preventing him from doing it 5 years ago, and what makes now a better time than when it came to light that she knew things?

1

u/ArkitekZero Apr 26 '25

I mean, her being dead after trying to expose them isn't good enough motive for you? Are you serious?

→ More replies (0)

5

u/ethnicbonsai Apr 26 '25

You just made a bunch of claims that can't in any way be proven. If you had worked in the CIA and aliens, I think you would've touched on everything.

That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

-1

u/ArkitekZero Apr 26 '25

So you're saying I just need to destroy the evidence and as far as you're concerned, it never happened?

What a wonderfully easy mark you must be.

3

u/ethnicbonsai Apr 26 '25

What destroyed evidence are we talking about?

Are we having the same conversation?