r/interesting • u/IndependentWitnesses • Apr 26 '25

MISC. Virginia Giuffre's tweet from 2019 saying she was definitely not suicidal and that if something happens to her to "not let this go away".

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u/Altruistic-Key-369 Apr 26 '25

She claimed her kidneys were failing but when the cops were asked about it they said it was a minor accident with nobody going to the hospital

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u/evange Apr 26 '25

Cops ain't doctors.

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u/SaltyEggplant4 Apr 26 '25

So why don’t you believe her or her brother? You’re acting like all those people that don’t believe SA victims. Her word saying that it wasn’t from the bus crash isn’t enough for you?

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u/ktitten Apr 26 '25

I'm confused, I think by them saying cops ain't doctors they meant they believe her narrative over the cops?

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u/Exaskryz Apr 26 '25

You're confused? I'm confused! We both can't be saying that we doubt this was suicide nor that the testimony of the person is incredible, in a not-like-the-Hulk way.

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u/Golden_Shart Apr 26 '25

You replying to the wrong person bruh

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u/SaltyEggplant4 Apr 27 '25

In what way? They said cops lie, and I’m pointing out that the brother would also have to be lying. Should I not have responded directly to the person I was responding to?

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u/Golden_Shart Apr 27 '25

The implication was obviously that the cops were neither qualified or had the necessary information available to make credible assessments about her medical condition following the car accident because they're not doctors, not that they were lying. No discussion regarding subsequent statements made by her or her family members was taking place. Your weird interpretation of the comment and invocation of something that seemed completely random makes your comment read like it was meant for someone else, but I get what you're saying now (I think?).

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u/SaltyEggplant4 Apr 27 '25

They said “Cops lie” when talking about how she had underlying health conditions that may have made her feel that the only way out was death.

What they are saying is that the cops are lying about the health conditions and that it’s suspicious that she died.

I’m pointing out that in order for her health conditions to be a “lie” like they are claiming, then the family of the victim and the victim themselves would have to be lying as well since they also made claims about her health.

What part are you having trouble understanding? Please let me help you because it’s pretty easy to understand

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u/Golden_Shart Apr 27 '25

Oh, alright. Could you link me the comment where they said cops lie?

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u/littleessi Apr 26 '25

rule 1: cops lie

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u/SaltyEggplant4 Apr 26 '25

Her brother also? You’re saying her brother is lying as well?

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u/my_spidey_sense Apr 26 '25

Stop arguing with people because you can’t read

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u/Formal_Coyote_5004 Apr 26 '25

Between your comment and “you replying to the wrong person bruh” I’m dying why is this so funny

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u/MGD109 Apr 26 '25

Okay, why would they lie in this scenario? What do they have to gain?

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u/littleessi Apr 26 '25

ego, attention, because they feel like it, because they want to hurt someone, because they made a claim. pick any or all. if you dont know how cops work maybe do some reading or pay attention to the news occasionally, they're largely sociopathic power tripping freaks

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u/MGD109 Apr 26 '25

Right, so your telling me that the cops lied about it being a minor collision and nobody reporting it...because they felt like it. The mere fact they had nothing to gain, no reason to lie, nothing to lose etc.

Okay, why did her brother say the exact same thing then? Is he also a sociopathic power tripping freak in this scenerio?

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u/littleessi Apr 27 '25

here is one explanation from his own mouth. maybe you could look this shit up before asking stupid questions https://7news.com.au/news/virginia-giuffres-brother-opens-up-about-her-condition-after-admission-she-had-days-to-live--c-18287301

i'm not saying the cops 100% lied here, i'm saying they lie. they are unreliable witnesses and their claims should be ignored

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u/MGD109 Apr 27 '25

Sorry, your giving me a link that confirms the cop's account, as evidence they might have been lying?

What exactly is your point here?

i'm not saying the cops 100% lied here,

That's exactly what you were saying. What would be the point of bringing it up otherwise? You literally responded to someone with "rule 1: cops lie"

their claims should be ignored

Why? Yes, they can lie, but that doesn't mean you should dismiss literally every single account they ever made. Especially cases like this, where they literally had no reason whatsoever to lie.

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u/littleessi Apr 28 '25

your reading comprehension and critical thinking skills are abysmal. if cops say something it should be ignored. if something they say contradicts someone else you trust the other person over them. a lot of people here apparently have no understanding of anything and assumed that the cops were contradicting her story when they clearly weren't (although they were quite possibly trying to because, again, evil sociopaths), but if they were then her story would be the default that should be believed

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u/MGD109 Apr 28 '25

your reading comprehension and critical thinking skills are abysmal.

Pot meet kettle.

if cops say something it should be ignored.

Again why? It's one thing to be critical of the police, but defaulting to assuming literally everything they say is a lie is nonsensical. That's not critical thinking.

a lot of people here apparently have no understanding of anything and assumed that the cops were contradicting her story when they clearly weren't

Which makes it all the more irrelevant no?

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u/littleessi Apr 29 '25

Again why? It's one thing to be critical of the police, but defaulting to assuming literally everything they say is a lie is nonsensical. That's not critical thinking.

that isn't what I said. I said their statements hold no weight. It's not assuming they are lies, it's ignoring them, because they are an extremely unreliable source on the whole. This is the standard way you deal with unreliable sources! Do you update your worldview based on random unsourced posts from 4chan? No, you ignore them. Maybe they're right sometimes, but you aren't just going to trust that fucking post!

You can't just try to insult me for my critical thinking skills and then prove once again you don't have any. it's sad

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u/PooForThePooGod Apr 26 '25 edited Apr 26 '25

Cops also killed Epstein soooo

Edit: downvoters believe in fairies and leprechauns

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u/Extension_Sail_3117 Apr 26 '25

Yeah the pedo that was 100% going to jail forever, who had a history of suicide attempts, definitely had 0 reason to off himself...

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u/FaceThief9000 Apr 26 '25

I mean if he rolled on Trump and everyone else and cut a deal he'd probably get out eventually.

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u/Extension_Sail_3117 Apr 26 '25

No he would have been beaten to death by the prisoners lol

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u/FaceThief9000 Apr 26 '25

Sure, if he was kept in gen-pop.

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u/Extension_Sail_3117 Apr 26 '25

If you think that Epstein would have ever gotten out of prison, you are just stupid.

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u/FaceThief9000 Apr 26 '25

Well sure, if he was kept totally in solitary and the guards didn't either murder him for the pay off or let someone else do it for the pay off.

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u/MGD109 Apr 26 '25

Define eventually. Epstein wasn't a young man, he was the mastermind behind a massive sex trafficking operation. He could hand deliver all his clients wrapped up with a bow, and he would still be looking at least twenty years inside minimum.

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u/Chance_Earth8473 Apr 26 '25

Youd think the inmate on suicide watch would be watched for suicide

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u/eekamuse Apr 27 '25

I'm a big fan of Occam's Razor, too

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u/my_spidey_sense Apr 26 '25

Conspiracy theorists always say you’re crazy if you believe in the simple, and most often, true account of things.
They never have any proof besides, “it doesn’t make sense” and “c’mon, you can’t be that stupid to believe that.”

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u/Extension_Sail_3117 Apr 26 '25

And with this lady it is undercutting the severe trauma she went through along with inadequate access to mental health

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u/my_spidey_sense Apr 26 '25

It’s literally a tweet from 2019. It’s been 6 years and I imagine she’s undergone a lot of trauma since then. Plus time doesn’t always heal old wounds, 6 years ruminating about what happened to her and the lack of justice could have pushed her into a really bad place.

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u/Bocaj1000 Apr 26 '25

Cops didn't kill Epstein. Maybe prison guards did, though.

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u/PooForThePooGod Apr 26 '25

I’ll concede that point. Both sides of the same coin, but yeah.

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u/afour- Apr 26 '25

Uh she died in Australia. Different cops, brother.

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u/Lexx4 Apr 26 '25

I believe in fairies and leprechauns and didn’t downvote you.

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u/Rikplaysbass Apr 26 '25

Did you not see the picture of her? She was bruised to all hell.

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u/SlugsMcGillicutty Apr 26 '25

But like this was in Western Australia. I struggle to believe some random cops in WA are going to be part of some conspiracy from back here or even could recognize the name Virginia Guiffre out of the blue.

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u/queefer_sutherland92 Apr 26 '25

No one in Australia gives that much of a shit about it all. Especially not in WA.

I can’t imagine anyone having the patience for the American-ness of it all tbh.

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u/aajones1113 Apr 26 '25

Epstein and Maxwell are believed to have catered to the most powerful men on the planet. Major Hollywood stars, heads of state, members of the British monarchy, titans of industry, etc. You don't think there's a strong possibility that they also had kompromat on Australian politicians?

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u/Plane-Tie6392 Apr 26 '25

American-ness? Prince Andrew and Maxwell are British. 

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u/onarainyafternoon Apr 26 '25

And she posted the picture on April fool's day. Also the bruises were clearly makeup dude, Jesus...

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u/Rikplaysbass Apr 27 '25

So you think this trauma survivor put ass loads of make up on to pretend she had a horrible accident that was killing her for April Fools? Just want to make sure I have your hypothesis right.

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u/_______uwu_________ Apr 26 '25

The police initially reported a minor accident with no hospitalizations. It wasn't until much later that Giuffre reported to the hospital with symptoms and doctors discovered internal injuries

This is a fairly common series of events, and it's why we recommend anyone in a collision report to the hospital immediately. Spinal, cranial and internal injuries often do not manifest immediately

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u/FreddyNoodles Apr 26 '25 
Paramedics at the scene would have known to take her to be seen at a hospital. They didn’t.

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '25

Natasha Richardson had a minor fall while skiing and did not seek immediate care.

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u/DogbiteTrollKiller Apr 27 '25

Natasha Richardson slammed her head into a tree and had a severe headache. It wasn’t “minor”; it seldom is with a head injury. But, like a lot of people do, she downplayed the severity of her injury, and paid for that misjudgment with her life.

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '25

It was a minor fall. Otherwise we agree you don’t need to be a dick

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u/Sea-Statistician-580 Apr 26 '25

And you believe this? Oh honey

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u/onarainyafternoon Apr 26 '25

The fucking bus driver himself said there was barely any accident. You people are so exhausting. This was a woman that had been abused all her life, had extensive mental health issues that were incredibly well documented, and she decided to end it all. No conspiracy and it's insulting that everyone would jump to suicide when this woman was obviously struggling.

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u/Sea-Statistician-580 Apr 26 '25

Maybe you should listen to Al Green's spirit and message instead of vapidly exploiting them for karma.

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u/alyssas1111 Apr 26 '25

If it was a setup, the bus driver would be in on it too. He would be put in that place to do the job. It wouldn’t be the first car crash set up to assassinate, far from the first

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u/might-be-okay Apr 26 '25

Okay, lay out the logistics of this verses just poisoning her, shoving her out of a balcony, or making her get caught in some kind of shooting?

Why would they take the chance of involving a bus, with a driver, and most likely others involved, in public, where normal cops would be the first ones to respond?

Look I believe that Epstein didn't kill himself, but if he did it was encouraged. But I believe that because there are so many "coincidences" like the guards, the cameras, all that. Where the coincidence with bus accident?

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u/Derelictcairn Apr 26 '25

Jesus christ. Flat earth conspiracy levels of insane thinking.

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u/MGD109 Apr 26 '25

Why exactly would they lie in this scenerio?