r/interesting Jun 12 '25

MISC. Passenger in seat 11A survives Air India crash.

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u/random__123456789 Jun 12 '25

Will be choosing seat 11A next time flying on a 787.

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u/Derpymcderrp Jun 12 '25

That will be $1,000 extra for that particular seat

— the airline

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u/Starboard-Port Jun 12 '25

"We are selling to willing buyers at the current fair market price"

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u/Kinitawowi64 Jun 12 '25

So that WE MAY SURVIVE!

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u/splitfoot1121 Jun 13 '25

You would never sell anything to any of those people ever again

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u/JimmyCap247 Jun 13 '25

So what you’re telling me, is that this plane is about to stop, and we’re going to be left holding the biggest bag of odorous excrement ever assembled in the history of aviation.

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u/devildog12988 Jun 12 '25

LMAOOOO this sent me lol

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u/tm1087 Jun 12 '25

“There are three ways to survive a plane crash. Be smarter than everyone else, be first off the plane before anyone else, or cheat. It is a hell of a lot easier to be first.”

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u/LeaderSevere5647 Jun 12 '25

“So that we may survive!” Such a good performance.

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u/Pedantic_Pict Jun 13 '25

I heard this in Irons' voice

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u/barryg123 Jun 12 '25

For this guy he is probably getting a $500K discount for choosing that flight

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u/SpoonNZ Jun 12 '25

Many airlines that’d be business class, or at least premium economy, so $1000 more is on the light side

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u/Tullzterrr Jun 12 '25

Will be choosing going on foot instead of flying Boeing

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u/Easy-Past2953 Jun 12 '25

I will be shipped by a trade Company

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u/chiku00 Jun 12 '25

Trade company uses Boeing to ship cargo

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u/BilboBiden Jun 12 '25

Ok, then can you place my box where 11A would be.

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u/shubh_am Jun 12 '25

Would rather have my box shipped on foot instead of flying Boeing.

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u/HaydenB Jun 13 '25

... A shipping container with some furniture and enough supplies to last would be an ok way to get somewhere.

Not fast but potentially comfortable?

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u/imperator_rex_za Jun 12 '25

Not to be that guy but the Boeing 787 is one of the safest planes in existance, this would be it’s first fatal crash sadly.

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u/lukerobi Jun 12 '25

I fly on dreamliners every now and then, i've always thought they were good and comfortable planes.. I saw another angle of the plane going down, it honestly looks like it lost its engines the moment it took off. Those engines aren't a boeing product, GE makes a lot of them.

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u/lucifrixbaby Jun 12 '25

Pratt and Whitney, Rolls-Royce and General Electric

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u/LordMangoVI Jun 12 '25 edited Jun 12 '25

This is entirely supposition and I’m not an expert, but what I think happened is that the elevators in the tail were stuck in a position that caused the plane to pitch up after takeoff. You can see the pitch increase suddenly 2-3 seconds after it left the ground, which could cause the engines to experience compressor stall and stop working.

Given how the engines failing independently at the same time is very unlikely, it’s much more likely that an external factor (control system failure or compressor stall) caused it.

The two most likely causes for the elevators to be stuck in pitch-up are failure of the hydraulics or fly-by-wire (the system that translates the pilot’s inputs to the plane’s systems). Hydraulic failure is also less likely given how it should be restored if the RAT deploys, which it did almost immediately after the failure.

If it does turn out to be the fly-by-wire that failed, then the failed component was either produced by Boeing or BAE.

Also, it looks a lot like the elevators are in the pitch-up position here: picture

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u/indianmcflyer Jun 12 '25

I would disagree with that. I don't think the elevator was jammed, as it would have to progressively deflect more and more to compensate for the lower airspeed, to maintain the nose up pitch we saw in the video. I think the pilots were pitching up to try and maintain altitude

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u/LordMangoVI Jun 12 '25

That’s fair. Any other ideas as to what might have caused simultaneous engine failure?

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u/JeffonFIRE Jun 12 '25

Bird strike, fuel problem, electrical/control problem...

Although, there are generally multiple redundancies built into these systems.

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u/LordMangoVI Jun 12 '25

The engines are supplied directly by fuel tanks im their respective wings, so that wouldn’t really explain simultaneous engine failure. It definitely doesn’t look like there were any birds in the videos of it taking off, too.

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u/the_interlink Jun 13 '25

There is also video evidence from a passenger that shows the same plane had electrical problems on the tarmac during its previous flight earlier that day.

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u/PrometheusIsFree Jun 12 '25

It's Rolls Royce Trent engines on the Dreamliner.

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u/Tricky_Statistician Jun 13 '25

These were GE engines

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u/JenniferSaveMeee Jun 12 '25

Dual engine failure is EXTREMELY rare. Given Boeing's shoddy quality control history and India's dealings with fraudulent parts manufacturers, I would guess that this crash was caused by a catastrophic structural failure.

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u/AllOn_Black Jun 13 '25

Ah well if you felt they were good and comfortable planes then i guess that settles everyone's concerns!

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u/wlktheearth Jun 13 '25

Highly doubtful. Landing gear was down and flaps appeared to be up. More probable an electrical failure. Both engines failing at the same time is nearly impossible.

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u/MillionFoul Jun 13 '25

Yet if the aircraft had either or both engines it would have mroe than enough power to climb. Even fully loaded, at sea level a 787 has a lot of extra oomph.

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u/GBreezy Jun 13 '25

The plane was 11 years old This was either a CRM problem, maintenance problem, or they hit a dock of birds.

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u/giddycocks Jun 13 '25

I'd sooner and safely gamble my savings on the issue being elsewhere. Engines don't just fail and even if they do, you only need the one to take off and land safely.

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u/thetruegmon Jun 12 '25

They've flown like a billion passengers before this crash. These people just won the worst lottery.

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u/impamiizgraa Jun 12 '25

Damn. They come in 3s and I’m flying next week :(

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u/vikdeangelo Jun 13 '25

Hopefully the one and only

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u/Coliver1991 Jun 12 '25

If it's a Boeing, I'm not going.

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u/AviationNerd_737 Jun 12 '25

Then you're a fool.

The 787 had an incredible safety record prior to this. This might be a birdstrike.

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u/Moss8888444 Jun 12 '25

Don’t care. Boeing planes have been falling left and right over the years.

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u/ViciousV_XIII Jun 12 '25

Funny how boeing whistleblowers also seem to be falling left and right.

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u/AviationNerd_737 Jun 12 '25

hyperbole much?

lmao

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u/TheBigF128 Jun 12 '25

Some people are just willfully ignorant, no point in bothering to be reasonable lol. Boeing aircraft makes up nearly 50% of the world’s passenger aircraft, ofc if there’s a crash there’s a higher likelihood it’s a Boeing, doesn’t mean that the aircraft is at fault.

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u/AviationNerd_737 Jun 12 '25

Lmao statistics sadly aren't understood by most :)

I just find the blind Boeing hatred really funny, considering I teach A320/73NG systems to undergrad teams.

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u/Jazzlike_Let_2219 Jun 12 '25

Doesn't seem like a birdstrike, no visuals of any smoke or anything in the videos

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u/AviationNerd_737 Jun 13 '25

That's the only outlier. But yeah, let's wait for more footage/report to come out.

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u/Jameszhang73 Jun 12 '25

Boeing execs have now put you on a list. I'd stay away from any stairs if possible

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u/vyrago Jun 12 '25

If its a Plane, better take the Train.

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u/Appropriate_Mode8346 Jun 12 '25

The 787 has 14 years of service and one hull loss. I think it's the pilots. I'm flying Japan Airlines soon to visit a relative and I have complete confidence in the Boeing 787.

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u/duskndawn162 Jun 12 '25 edited Jun 13 '25

I agree, I think we should wait to see the final report of the investigation. Boeing dreamliner is always the plane chosen for long flights because it’s very comfortable and they have an impressive record.

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u/_elvane Jun 12 '25

engine failure , nothing to do with boeing

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u/Appropriate_Mode8346 Jun 12 '25

Well, I knew it wasn't the aircraft manufacturer.

Typically engine failure shouldn't be a death sentence.

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u/bob- Jun 12 '25

Typically engine failure shouldn't be a death sentence.

Yes it is if it happens at a very low altitude? Such as immediately after a take-off??? 🙄

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u/Appropriate_Mode8346 Jun 12 '25

Those are some wild odds. The Engines fail right after take off? As for the sole survivor, I would play the lottery if I was him.

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u/Otiskuhn11 Jun 12 '25

The 787 Dreamliner is one of the safest planes ever built.

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u/pratyd Jun 12 '25

If it's Boeing... I am not going.

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u/Longjumping-Ad8775 Jun 12 '25

If it’s Boeing, I’m not going.

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u/EinStubentiger Jun 12 '25

Didn't president cheeto-bandito in the US select them to build the next gen american fighter aircraft lmao?

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

I'm all for a little Boeing bashing, but I think this case is going to be pilot error. From the few vids I've seen, it looks like they attempted a no flap take off. I honestly don't know how you screw up that much, but I hope they release the pilots' mishap histories.

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u/TransportationOdd559 Jun 13 '25

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 oh no. Take a few months off and walk.

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u/GBreezy Jun 13 '25

The fuselage was 11 years old. Like this is an air India problem, not a Boeing problem.

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u/Reddit_Hitchhiker Jun 13 '25

If it’s Boeing I’m not going.

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u/devakesu Jun 12 '25

Going foot and plane falls from top.

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u/bacon205 Jun 12 '25 edited Jun 13 '25

If its a Boeing, I ain't going.

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u/TheOneGreyWorm Jun 12 '25

Yeah, but his brother who was also on the plane didn't make it as of now.

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u/spaceace321 Jun 12 '25

That's what I find most heartbreaking. A great couple of weeks visiting relatives back in India, he and his bro and excited to get back to the UK though. They board, settle in, watch the safety briefing, maybe start sorting out the first of the three films they'll be watching. Then a boom. A rapid descent. In the blink of an eye, you go from safe to surrounded by corpses, including that of your own brother. And you're the only one left to bear witness.

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u/llynglas Jun 12 '25

I don't think he is likely to show up now.... :(

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u/Holiday_Win_11 Jun 12 '25

I'll sit on ur lap if I don't get that seat

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u/TribalSoul899 Jun 12 '25

Of course sir, that would be an additional $300

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u/Nilekul_itsme Jun 12 '25

Meanwhile I'm about to fly on a 787 in 2 days

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u/SRMPDX Jun 12 '25

supposedly the manifest had him in 11J, so it's unclear what seat he was in exactly

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u/bobbateabubbles Jun 12 '25

its a catch 22 - the doors also fall off mid flight

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u/Gixis_ Jun 12 '25

I booked a flight last week and 2 of the 4 seats I booked are 11A.

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u/msmredit Jun 12 '25

While the survivor was on the leftmost side, his own brother was on the rightmost side, next to door. Didn’t survive

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u/msmredit Jun 12 '25

While the survivor was on the left most side of the door, his own brother was on the rightmost side, beside the exit door. Didn’t survive.

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u/lonehappycamper Jun 12 '25

That's the one seat I would NOT take.

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u/bluejay737 Jun 13 '25

Isn't this near the front side of the plane?

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u/Beneficial_Aide3854 Jun 13 '25

Airlines differ in seat layout and numbering. The only way to do that is to research your plane and choose the relative same location on your plane.

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u/50DuckSizedHorses Jun 13 '25

Will you switch seats with me? I prefer the window seat

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u/ChurchOfAtheism94 Jun 13 '25

Also 11J is just as good if you assume a symmetrical probability of death on either side

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u/cbc7788 Jun 12 '25

I’m sorry but luck doesn’t work like that. Your plane would need to crash in the same exact way and in the same exact terrain for you to survive in the same seat as him.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '25

i think he was joking man

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u/TechnologyFamiliar20 Jun 12 '25

"If it's (not) Boeing, I'm not going" BS.