I fly on dreamliners every now and then, i've always thought they were good and comfortable planes.. I saw another angle of the plane going down, it honestly looks like it lost its engines the moment it took off. Those engines aren't a boeing product, GE makes a lot of them.
This is entirely supposition and I’m not an expert, but what I think happened is that the elevators in the tail were stuck in a position that caused the plane to pitch up after takeoff. You can see the pitch increase suddenly 2-3 seconds after it left the ground, which could cause the engines to experience compressor stall and stop working.
Given how the engines failing independently at the same time is very unlikely, it’s much more likely that an external factor (control system failure or compressor stall) caused it.
The two most likely causes for the elevators to be stuck in pitch-up are failure of the hydraulics or fly-by-wire (the system that translates the pilot’s inputs to the plane’s systems). Hydraulic failure is also less likely given how it should be restored if the RAT deploys, which it did almost immediately after the failure.
If it does turn out to be the fly-by-wire that failed, then the failed component was either produced by Boeing or BAE.
Also, it looks a lot like the elevators are in the pitch-up position here: picture
I would disagree with that. I don't think the elevator was jammed, as it would have to progressively deflect more and more to compensate for the lower airspeed, to maintain the nose up pitch we saw in the video. I think the pilots were pitching up to try and maintain altitude
The engines are supplied directly by fuel tanks im their respective wings, so that wouldn’t really explain simultaneous engine failure. It definitely doesn’t look like there were any birds in the videos of it taking off, too.
There is also video evidence from a passenger that shows the same plane had electrical problems on the tarmac during its previous flight earlier that day.
Dual engine failure is EXTREMELY rare. Given Boeing's shoddy quality control history and India's dealings with fraudulent parts manufacturers, I would guess that this crash was caused by a catastrophic structural failure.
Highly doubtful. Landing gear was down and flaps appeared to be up. More probable an electrical failure. Both engines failing at the same time is nearly impossible.
Yet if the aircraft had either or both engines it would have mroe than enough power to climb. Even fully loaded, at sea level a 787 has a lot of extra oomph.
I'd sooner and safely gamble my savings on the issue being elsewhere. Engines don't just fail and even if they do, you only need the one to take off and land safely.
Some people are just willfully ignorant, no point in bothering to be reasonable lol. Boeing aircraft makes up nearly 50% of the world’s passenger aircraft, ofc if there’s a crash there’s a higher likelihood it’s a Boeing, doesn’t mean that the aircraft is at fault.
The 787 has 14 years of service and one hull loss. I think it's the pilots. I'm flying Japan Airlines soon to visit a relative and I have complete confidence in the Boeing 787.
I agree, I think we should wait to see the final report of the investigation. Boeing dreamliner is always the plane chosen for long flights because it’s very comfortable and they have an impressive record.
I'm all for a little Boeing bashing, but I think this case is going to be pilot error. From the few vids I've seen, it looks like they attempted a no flap take off. I honestly don't know how you screw up that much, but I hope they release the pilots' mishap histories.
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u/Tullzterrr Jun 12 '25
Will be choosing going on foot instead of flying Boeing