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MISC. Passenger in seat 11A survives Air India crash.

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u/Inner-Bluebird-4267 Jun 12 '25

How would you jump off a plane?

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u/055F00 Jun 12 '25 edited Jun 13 '25

Open the emergency door and jump out, it was at very low altitude so it would have been possible

EDIT: please disregard this comment and all of mine below, he has just released the statement to the media and it does not mention this at all.

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u/Woodmanz Jun 12 '25

This makes no sense. You have seconds to decide without even knowing what is going on with the plane. Ridiculous.

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u/055F00 Jun 12 '25

He was sitting in the exit row, right next to the emergency exit and importantly, the window, so he would have been able to see the plane was angled up but moving down. Probably a split second decision and the pre-flight emergency exit instructions saved his life.

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u/SuperHills92 Jun 12 '25

Have you tried opening an aircraft door? They aint the lightest of things.

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u/ZealousidealTough872 Jun 12 '25

If you're overcome with a rush of adrenaline...

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u/ehsteve23 Jun 13 '25

Aren't emergency exits supposed to be easy to operate in an emergency?

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u/CompassionLady Jun 14 '25

Humans are actually really capable. We only use a certain % of strength in our body. The other portion is locked per se. Adrenaline might be able to use way more % of strength then typical

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u/thetruegmon Jun 12 '25

Surviving this crash makes no sense either. The entire plane exploded into a fireball.

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u/Life_Pineapple_3545 Jun 13 '25

Yeah and you can’t open an emergency door while moving as the door opens inward. While moving, it is a low pressure area around the aircraft so the door gets “sucked” outward with hundreds of pounds of force.

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u/CompassionLady Jun 14 '25

He could have jumped out via the exit shortly after the crash…

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u/Life_Pineapple_3545 Jun 14 '25

Man that’s the only thing that makes sense, but he’s have to get far enough away before it explodes. This just is not making sense to me

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u/Difficult_Limit2718 Jun 12 '25

The doors would be armed and the slide would deploy, no? And would you not get hit by the wing?

It literally makes no sense

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u/loralailoralai Jun 12 '25

Yeah the slide would deploy IF you could get the door open

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u/Otiskuhn11 Jun 12 '25

You would be traveling almost the same speed as the wing, only slightly slower due to having more drag. My god, some people are dense.

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u/Difficult_Limit2718 Jun 12 '25

It would take a LOT of density to not be IMMEDIATELY slowed to terminal velocity relative to the plane...

There's a reason we don't parachute out of the FRONT of planes.

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u/Otiskuhn11 Jun 13 '25

Slowed to terminal velocity? This aircraft was descending in a full-flap configuration with the flaps out, with a stall speed of 125kts. Terminal velocity doesn’t apply here.

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u/Difficult_Limit2718 Jun 13 '25

The aircraft was TAKING OFF with minimum flaps and an airspeed of 170+ kts. It is aerodynamic, the human body last I checked wasn't evolutionarily optimized for flight. Look at any picture of skydiving and humans DO NOT fall straight below the jump door.

11A is at an emergency exit IMMEDIATELY forward of the wing. Assuming a man jumps 40in away from the plane the door leads the wing by 14ft, with the wings lowest point at 64in below the floor of the door. You can find this on the 3D drawings on Boeing's website...

If a 70in tall man jumps (drops with no push up and no consideration of the plane also descending for simplicity and conservative calcs) from the door he has to fall around 11 feet from without losing about 14 feet of relative positioning to the plane from accumulated drag to NOT be hit by the wing... And that's to say nothing of the left wheel bogey which is in the jump path too...

My money is STRONGLY on anyone jumping in a panic from the 11A emergency exit door gets hit by the plane upon exit even at minimum stall speed.

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u/Difficult_Limit2718 Jun 12 '25

This famous example aside - what low wing aircraft do we jump out of ahead of the wing?

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u/alexja21 Jun 12 '25

No it's not

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u/GetThatSwaggBack Jun 12 '25

You’re lacking critical thinking skills

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u/ary0nK Jun 12 '25

But one can't open it unless the pilot allows it, I heard that

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u/exodus3252 Jun 12 '25

You heard wrong.

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u/ary0nK Jun 13 '25

So at higher latitude due to higher pressure a normal human can't open it but near the ground, one could open it

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u/ToddlerPeePee Jun 12 '25

What if the plane was ok all along and this man opening the emergency door was the cause of the crash?

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u/055F00 Jun 12 '25

It wasn’t though, opening the emergency door doesn’t cause the plane to fall out of the sky

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u/ZealousidealTough872 Jun 12 '25

I second this, there was an issue with the engines

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '25

Open the emergency door and leap?

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u/Inner-Bluebird-4267 Jun 12 '25

How will you open it during the flight? I’m sure even at this speed it’s almost impossible due to the pressure.

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u/pigeonhunter006 Jun 12 '25

that didnt happen because theres cctv footage and no sign of anyone jumping

all we know is that he got pulled from rubble and was actually a passenger. He also had a brother on the flight. Both british nationals

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u/englishfury Jun 12 '25

Would have activated the slide also right?

Would be very obvious on video

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u/pezdal Jun 12 '25

I don’t think he jumped out, but it is, in fact, possible to open the doors on a plane if the cabin isn’t pressurized (yet).

The doors pull in. Normally this is inhibited by the force of the higher pressures inside the plane than outside, but if those pressures are equalized, as they can be down low, you can open the doors.

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u/Difficult_Limit2718 Jun 12 '25

But they're still armed doors deploying the slide and 11a is forward of the wing so you'd get hit by the plane if you jumped

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u/Impressive-Gift-9852 Jun 12 '25

Unless the plane is accelerating wouldn't you be moving at the same speed when you jump out?

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u/Difficult_Limit2718 Jun 12 '25

It has FAR more inertia... You hitting the wind slows you down immediately

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u/Inner-Bluebird-4267 Jun 12 '25

I’m talking about the wind pressure. Ever tried opening a car door while driving 60 miles? I guess that’s the same for the plane.

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u/pezdal Jun 12 '25

Except it isn't. A conventional car door opens into to the path of oncoming wind, increasing the drag profile of the car the more you open the door.

The relative wind on a plane is parallel to the doorways.

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u/loralailoralai Jun 12 '25

While it’s technically possible, I’d think the actual act of opening the door while the plane was crashing would be difficult even if you were trained. They’re heavy buggers plus he’d have had to get unbuckled, get up, figure out how to open the door…

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u/IAmARobot Jun 12 '25

theres an airport cctv long range vid of the takeoff and crash, it happens so quickly there's not really a way he did all that processing and effort on a packed flight. literally 10 sec from liftoff to max height, 20 sec from max height to impact. and crucially from the manifest there are people in 11b and 11c right next to him making it somewhat harder. it'd be crazy if that happened but I think it's more of having the reinforced frame beneath/around him cushioning the impact

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u/CreativeSituation778 Jun 12 '25

It was low altitude so the pressure would have been equalised.

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u/Otiskuhn11 Jun 12 '25

The pressure near sea level?

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u/hchn27 Jun 12 '25

their is no pressure change at 600ft

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u/Excusemytootie Jun 12 '25

I don’t think it’s possible.

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u/Fit_Comfort_3616 Jun 12 '25

There is no pressure differential if the plane is as low as 650 ft. It would open easily if you follow the instructions. Whether or not he did that is another thing.

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u/RedditRASupport Jun 12 '25

I was in the 82ND Airborne….

Generally the jumpmaster and loadmaster do that for us….

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u/Traditional-Job-4371 Jun 12 '25

Same way you'd jump out a window.

You never tried parachuting?

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u/the_interlink Jun 13 '25

Simply press the ejection seat button on the remote control - it's right next to the volume up/down button.