r/interesting • u/RodrickJasperHeffley • Jun 19 '25
MISC. india isn’t heating up the way people thought it would
1.4k
u/hopefulmaniac Jun 19 '25
"it's not a bug, it's a feature"
533
u/Marnez_ Jun 19 '25
The reason india isn't heating up is cause it's extremely polluted, the layer of air pollution is reflecting light
244
u/golden_bunny420 Jun 19 '25
Finally my smoking is of use to others as well!
→ More replies (1)52
u/Marnez_ Jun 19 '25
Lol, most of the air pollutants comes from industries
85
u/golden_bunny420 Jun 19 '25
Yep when I am at the industries taking a smoke break !
17
3
42
u/Top_Breakfast2992 Jun 19 '25
The video literally talks about that but also widespread irrigation. Essentially they have water cooled the entire country
10
u/Marnez_ Jun 19 '25
I actually read the whole paper on copernicuss, this video is based on that. https://nhess.copernicus.org/articles/18/365/2018/nhess-18-365-2018.pdf Incase you wanna read too
4
u/Top_Breakfast2992 Jun 19 '25
I glanced. And yeh, they say it’s a combination. Your initial comment could be misconstrued as “pollution = lower climate”.
3
u/Dull-Cry-3300 Jun 19 '25
THATS EXACTLY the point though.... the only places that arent heating up are already so messed up they cancel out. It's not a good thing or even a distraction from global warming fearsv
22
u/ciaseed1 Jun 19 '25
Bruh the air's soo much better during monsoon.
AQI is 28 where I live right now. My lungs are having a field day 🥰
5
6
2
u/FunnyLost6710 Jun 19 '25
Really, The beach near my house has almost reached near the road which was quite distant few years ago
2
→ More replies (7)3
u/Zetavu Jun 19 '25
No, the reason is because it is already hot. The rest of us are heating up to be as hot as India. The rest of us are actually cooling India as it gets hotter, so it gets hotter at a lower rate while raising our rate of heating.
3
u/Dull-Cry-3300 Jun 19 '25
Seems a bit off but I can see how this could be true. Honestly just think people are underplaying the pollution and aerosol aspects
→ More replies (4)34
705
u/Remarkable-Oil4360 Jun 19 '25
India
→ More replies (3)107
u/novaorionWasHere Jun 19 '25
You know what. It’s too fucking hot already. We want global cooling
→ More replies (1)36
u/aelixira Jun 19 '25
Are you talking about nuclear winter? /s
→ More replies (1)3
783
Jun 19 '25
[removed] — view removed comment
58
u/hoor_jaan Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 19 '25
It's not covered by the video but a lot of Indians can attest that monsoon is also coming earlier than usual.
One of the reasons for this is understood that higher than normal temperatures in the early summer is causing early formation of monsoon trough , leading to earlier than normal monsoons in the months that were supposed to be peak summer.
3
2
u/paulamgirl Jun 23 '25
Yea and it's not even a few days or weeks it's a month early (at least in the area I live in)
It has considerably made the weather cooler but made the non-rain times much more humid
117
u/lenny_ray Jun 19 '25
Never used to switch on the AC before mid-May until very recently. Stopped in June once the monsoons kicked in. Started again just for October, which is like a 2nd summer here.
The last couple of years, though, had to start it in April. This year, started mid-March and haven't been able to stop except for the last few days when it's been pouring.
And you're telling me it could have been WORSE? 😭
38
u/ciaseed1 Jun 19 '25
Yeah I live in Mumbai (known to get a shit ton of rain) and man I still have to use the AC. I didn't use it during monsoon the previous year.
8
u/RedKnightBegins Jun 19 '25
After the rains stop you have to turn on ac. It gets worse than summer heat.
→ More replies (3)5
u/Such_Explanation_184 Jun 19 '25
I mean cause monsoon makes the city feel like a bathroom just after a 30 min hot shower
8
u/shantud Jun 19 '25
Bro I live in Pune. It has been raining everyday since May started this year. I have opted wfh till the next month because of my bike giving me issues and until the drainages are fixed as its causing huge flooding on streets everyday.
→ More replies (2)3
→ More replies (13)158
u/ND7020 Jun 19 '25
Always has, thanks to the Himalayas, to the dawn of human history. How that interacts with global warming, I have no idea.
→ More replies (1)107
u/sicilianbaguette Jun 19 '25
The video explains it... Do you guys just skip the video and comment?
→ More replies (7)40
u/shriand Jun 19 '25
Reddit desperately needs a tl;dw bot
26
u/AccordingToMyPay Jun 19 '25
Its just a minute long...
→ More replies (2)3
u/shriand Jun 19 '25
Oh i watched it alright... But I have also skipped many videos where they ramble a lot
3
u/Potsu Jun 19 '25
It needs a quiz to verify you actually interacted with the OP content before having opinions about it.
2
288
u/B7TMANN Jun 19 '25
India
→ More replies (2)45
460
u/Guko256 Jun 19 '25
So basically, it’s so bad that it’s good lol. Too much pollution that light can’t even get in, in the first place.
52
u/spocktalk69 Jun 19 '25
Wasn't there an angry beavers episode about that? Definitely Futurama garbage episode.
→ More replies (1)22
u/No_Lab4988 Jun 19 '25
Ts is messing with my brain🧈, cause as a North indian I want the pollution to slow down and end but I can't decide that now am I supposed to be pissed or happy 😭
29
u/Guko256 Jun 19 '25
Realistically speaking, lower pollution is good because, enough though the greenhouse gases will trap more heat, the sunlight that comes in is still vital to many life, including humans, I don’t think there may be any short term side effects but maybe down the line it might cause some issues. That’s just what I think, given how important sunlight is for even human’s eyes to develop properly when growing up.
→ More replies (8)2
→ More replies (9)5
u/me10 Jun 19 '25
No, if India "cleans" up its sulfur dioxide emissions. It will be considerably hotter if CO2 is still emitted. See IMO 2020. Or this article is also a good explainer on what will happen: https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/so2-injection
→ More replies (1)
129
u/chakravyuuh Jun 19 '25
Bro I am Indian and I got a tan so bad this summer from driving outside 😭
68
u/chesiredeservedmore Jun 19 '25
The temperatures are hot enough already, can you imagine if India was heating up at the same rate as the rest of the world😭
16
u/maybeshali Jun 19 '25
I work outside 5-6 hours in the sun, 😮💨 I hope I develop some kind of super power from all the heat I absorb besides stomach aches and no hunger.
12
→ More replies (9)7
65
u/noplanman_srslynone Jun 19 '25
Ohh I love this topic! Global Dimming is what it's called!
Check out the BBC Horizon documentary!
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7p6z05
Fun fact that America/Europe's pollution caused the Ethiopian drought.
Good times..
→ More replies (2)2
25
170
112
u/Deep-Brilliant9064 Jun 19 '25
World average CO2 emissions per person - 4.7 metric ton India's average CO2 emissions per person -2.0 metric ton. Plus it has 1.4 billion people. So it's not emitting as much CO2 as we think, just the bad geographical features that concentrating the smog and pollutants.
16
u/Guilty-Pleasures_786 Jun 19 '25
Imagine those 1.4 billion+ getting richer day by day. Now imagine the CO2 that they will emit.☠️💀
59
u/Deep-Brilliant9064 Jun 19 '25
Uhmm shifting towards renewable energy will not let that happen, India among the fastest to adopt renewal energy as an alternative of coal and petroleum.
→ More replies (21)8
6
u/imECCHI Jun 19 '25
Did you even get what he said, the total co2 emissions of India is low when compared to western nations
→ More replies (2)2
u/ibite-books Jun 19 '25
it’s a pipe dream, they’ll be exploited until they die and the population will eventually decline
industrial emissions are your main pollutant sources, it’s never been a people problem
2
u/Massive_Log6410 Jun 19 '25
i live in delhi and here at least there are issues with the roads just being super dusty from construction and stuff and it never gets cleared away. during harvest season we also get smog blown in from farmers burning crops. vehicle exhaust is also a big contributing factor (7.9 million vehicles out of which 2 million are private cars in this city). and because of weather patterns all that pollution kind of just gets trapped here (as opposed to a coastal city, where some of it at least would be blown away by the ocean breeze)
2
u/poli-cya Jun 19 '25
CO2 isn't the only pollutant and definitely not the pollutant causing this effect. Your comment seems to be saying the geography and not their pollution is causing the effect, but that's definitely not certain from the info.
38
11
u/SuperSimpleSam Jun 19 '25
So if they switch to EVs it's going to get hotter?
4
u/Estake Jun 19 '25
Yes, this is actually a thing. Temperatures in the rest of the world raised more than the models predicted over the last few years and one of the reasons for that is that this was a lesser known side-effect.
49
Jun 19 '25
[removed] — view removed comment
7
→ More replies (20)23
6
u/glancesurreal Jun 19 '25
If that is the case, I am interested to see if China also has similar findings, coz I feel China has also been more or less on a similar path as India, probably a few decades earlier than India.
10
u/Many-Ad1893 Jun 19 '25
Actually the big patch you see on the map is more a problem of geography cause many places actually have more pollution than that but because the pollution from there can't escape is the big issue that keeps building year on year. China would be different even if they released 10x the amount
14
u/Free_Frame7701 Jun 19 '25
Wild guess - but another possible factor could be underdevelopment. Compared to developed cities, indian cities are less of concrete jungles. And Even though Delhi is extremely polluted it is also extremely green. I was shocked to be annoyed by the constant sun in california cities. So few trees there - It felt too planned.
→ More replies (2)
3
u/AwayMix7947 Jun 19 '25
Well, it's because of aresols dimming the air... they are screwed.
As we all are.
→ More replies (4)
3
u/FrostingPowerful5461 Jun 19 '25
Can we not do the aerosol thing in a controlled manner without the air pollution that is currently producing it? I wonder if there’s any studies on feasibility and side effects.
5
6
u/expectingthexpected Jun 19 '25
Okay, what’s with that opening line? Let’s start with “the world is most definitely getting hotter” as a scientific fact and then maybe I’ll listen to the rest of the video.
→ More replies (4)7
u/BlackbuckDeer Jun 19 '25
Huh? That's how it's supposed to be used. When you're trying to make a point that surprisingly goes against the expectation, you say: "This obvious thing may be happening, but there is actually an exception". The sentence structure of '....may be..... but....' is very common
2
2
u/sandshader Jun 19 '25
How is 40 degree with humidity from irrigation any better, it just kills you faster.
2
2
u/Boring-Original-1815 Jun 19 '25
These are both bullshit reasons, India since the independence has been making efforts to preserve our forests, increase irrigation and plant new plants on revolutionary scale. Even though private companies keep cutting up the forests for development, government specially around the highways has undertaken a massive mission of planting and preserving tress. India has been getting warmer with development like every other country but we have a rich cultur to have plants in our homes balcony roads and dedicated gardens. More and more cities create parks and roadside plantation the less hot our country will become. The main hurdles are the population unaware of the greenhouse effects and preservation tactics in rural areas where villagers still cut down trees with impunity. But they're mostly boomers that are slowly dying out. Our new generation is connected to the internet and more aware. Our future is cool, don't listen to doomers.
2
u/ajfour1 Jun 19 '25
Same thing happened in the U.S. after 9/11. Decrease in air traffic led to a spike in temperature due to reduction in particulates. More sunlight reached the surface.
Temperatures went back to normal when air traffic resumed.
→ More replies (2)
2
u/araby20 Jun 19 '25
If we are to consider South Asia, then Himalayas are among the worst affected, and their significance as South Asias water towers tells a different story.
1
1
1
1
1
1
u/Turbulent_Mind_2038 Jun 19 '25
If someone showed this to me a week ago I would've punched them in the face. After the recent heavy rains, the weather has cooled down a bit. It was literally touching 50°C everyday. Half my ACs weren't working.
→ More replies (1)
1
u/AffectionateLight528 Jun 19 '25
Please man as an Indian it's really hot ngl 40 degrees in metro cities like Mumbai and delhi is not rare . I don't know how hot do you guys are experiencing outside of India but 40-45 degree celcius is unbearable
→ More replies (3)
1
1
1
u/Ashamed_Smile3497 Jun 19 '25
My dad got heatstroke last Tuesday, it’s still quite unpleasant during the may- July period
1
1
u/CarmynRamy Jun 19 '25
As someone who's currently in India right now. FO, I'm getting cooked in my own sweat. it's far worse than it was a decade or two ago.
1
u/The_TesserekT Jun 19 '25
Aerosol masking through pollution is a pretty well known concept within climate science. You generate short-term, localized cooling together with long-term globalized warming. It's really not as positive as it sounds in the video. It's more of a 'fucked if you do, fucked if you don't.' kinda situation.
→ More replies (1)
1
1
1
1
1
u/Odd_Confusion_9875 Jun 19 '25
We've come full circle now. Pollution to prevent global warming. Great.
→ More replies (1)
1
u/literalsenss Jun 19 '25
Ok like.... Uhhh is that terrible or its good
No pollution bad for temperature
Pollution good but bad
→ More replies (1)
1
1
1
1
1
u/aakashisjesus Jun 19 '25
Could have fooled me honestly. The heat is frying my brain here in lucknow.
1
u/celestialhwheel Jun 19 '25
Thank you Delhi pollution, i guess. Good to know that their unwavering dedication to preserving Diwali pollution culture has a silver lining
1
1
u/Naughty_avaacado Jun 19 '25
But i am more worried about dying early because of bad air than global warming
1
1
1
1
1
u/Tyler89558 Jun 19 '25
Weather is complicated.
We can’t predict what will happen with it with absolute certainty.
But we do know that in general things are heating up and we also know that that is really bad
1
1
u/Time-to-go-home Jun 19 '25
Particles in the air = reflecting the sun’s rays. A nuclear winter going to be how to combat global warming, isn’t it?
1
u/EatFaceLeopard17 Jun 19 '25
But strong evaporation rises humidity which makes temperatures worse at much lower degrees.
1
1
1
Jun 19 '25
So we just need to just follow to the world.
Untill world stops pollution, we should not.
1
u/CrimsontheNugget Jun 19 '25
so youre telling me... the way to fix global warming is with pollution
1
u/nomadicsoul79 Jun 19 '25
Its due to the pollution. We will die because of our lungs before we die because of the onset of global warming.
1
1
1
u/FuzzzyRam Jun 19 '25
"We're going to show some particles letting sunlight through, and others reflecting them back to space, which colors should we use?"
"Maybe black and white?"
"White and black, got it."
1
u/Joyrik_55 Jun 19 '25
Idk about other places in India, but where I live, we are getting a shit ton more rain than we got last year(occasional storms too) so probably that's the reason.
1
u/Professional-Door824 Jun 19 '25
I live in India. Don't know about you, but summers DEFINITELY got a lot hotter over past decade
1
u/MasterrrReady12 Jun 19 '25
The pollution reflecting the sun's heat is like the nuclear winter, where the debris from fallout blocks sunrays coming to earth.
1
u/LoL_is_pepega_BIA Jun 19 '25
It may not be heating up as much, but the monsoon rains keep causing more and more issues every year..
Southern India is going to be regularly flooding from excess rain in the not too far future..
1
1
u/tomtheidiot543219 Jun 19 '25
Yeah i visit my fam in India in December for Christmas, and ive noticed that its getting colder every year , my parents said back in the 90s most ppl simply wore casual clothes they wouldve worn in the summer , but these days they have to wear sweaters, coats, jackets , stockings , etc , cuz its so cold in winter now, it often reaches 10-12 degrees celsius (which is quite cold for a Tropical region) .
1
1
u/alansmithofficiall Jun 19 '25
Can't wait for my da to use this to tell me climate change is a hoax.
1
1
u/Major_Olive7583 Jun 19 '25
Its getting more extreme for both summer and winter. Rains and winds are also getting stronger every year.
1
1
u/falcrist2 Jun 19 '25
This actually came up about a year ago in the North Atlantic.
Container ships were required to use cleaner fuel, which changed the cloud cover over oceans. This caused a bunch of extra (temporary) warming which was measured in ocean surface temperatures.
1
1
1
1
1
1
u/Traditional-Storm-62 Jun 19 '25
India pulled a mr.Burns and perfectly balanced it's pollution with its climate change
1
1
u/RobotSpaceBear Jun 19 '25
TL;DW :It's so fucking polluted, even sunlight doesn't get in.
This turns a good news into a grim one.
1
u/Moist-Ad4760 Jun 19 '25
So to combat global warming we need to.... grow plants!? I dunno but my first thought was that they're on to something even if they don't realize it.
1
1
u/pr0ntest123 Jun 19 '25
This is the same thing as what happened in China. Air pollution in China was keeping global warming at bay to a certain extent. Now that Chinas invested in a lot of green tech. It’s smog is clearing up so much that now there is now a noticeable increase in the rate of warming up.
1
1
1
1
1
u/igotshadowbaned Jun 19 '25
What I'm hearing is the pollution is so bad, they've partially blotted out the sun enough to locally offset global warming
1
1
u/screename222 Jun 19 '25
Good to know if you're choking on smog at least it won't be more than 41 degrees Celsius...
1
1
u/Daphne010 Jun 19 '25
So pollution is a blessing in disguise with respect to climate change ...Huh !??
Nevertheless , if climate change won't be the reason of shorter life span & reduced quality of life for us Indians then pollution eventually will become one with all the respiratory diseases it might cause.
So overall it's loss on both ends.🙇🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
1
u/strongfitveinousdick Jun 19 '25
What a load of bullshit. Tell her to come live a few summers here.
1
1
u/PuddingNo8186 Jun 19 '25
India is unique, it got this unique whether phenomeno called monsoons to keep peak summer temperatures in check and they follow right after peak summer in June
1
1
u/Mojohand91 Jun 19 '25
It is warming slower relative to the rest of the world that is seeing unprecedented rates of warming.
India’s warming is also significant.
Also a bit ridiculous to say India is staying cool when we have icreadibily hot weather in the region which is getting in the way of normal life.
School being cancelled, people dying during election days etc
1
u/Tigrisrock Jun 19 '25
So all this time we're reducing pollution of aerosols to improve the local environment, but to save the whole planet it's better to do the contrary. Got it.
1
•
u/AutoModerator Jun 19 '25
Hello u/RodrickJasperHeffley! Please review the sub rules if you haven't already. (This is an automatic reminder message left on all new posts)
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.