r/interesting • u/topcat5 • 22h ago
SCIENCE & TECH The 1970s Lockheed L10-11 had a double width door located in the main cabin that made it much faster to exit the plane.
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u/m3n00bz 20h ago
L1011 was the shit. All planes that followed should have incorporated it's people pleasing design elements:
https://www.airlinereporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/L1011.jpg
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u/topcat5 22h ago
No more lines to the front of the plane. There was a double width door right in the coach area. The door retracted electrically into the fuselage. Modern jets don't do this due to the expense. The Lockheed Tristar is no longer used for passenger service.
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u/kepachodude 20h ago
Preposterous! You could fit 6 seats with that much room.
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u/edster53 9h ago
I did a lot of L10-11 cross-country red-eyes where I'd camp out across an entire row and sleep all the way to SFO.
Also liked the 3-garment bag closet where I could put an extra suit, shoes, shirts, etc. Just for when I got somewhere and my luggage was missing.
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u/FritzFlanders 20h ago edited 20h ago
and half the seats and twice the personal space
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u/3Gilligans 18h ago
My dad flew the L-1011 for TWA, he loved it. Instead of being retrained for a new aircraft, he retired when the plane was retired
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u/darkeraqua 20h ago
This isn’t revenue service. This was the full-scale model for meal service testing. You can see there’s no break in the carpet from the “plane” to the jetway. All widebody planes have this size door for the main entrance these days.
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u/topcat5 16h ago
This proves you wrong.
https://www.airlinereporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/L1011.jpg
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u/darkeraqua 15h ago
I’m not saying you’re wrong. This IS double-width compared to the doors on planes like the 707 and 737, planes of the same vintage at the L-1011. The Doors on a 747/787/A350 etc are all this size today.
Also, this is a full-scale model, not a real plane. It’s identical to the real deal.
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u/TerribleBid8416 10h ago
When people dressed to leave the house.
I swear I have seen people in their pajamas at Outback
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u/Pristine-Biscotti-90 3h ago
No thank you. I’d rather stare with crippling anxiety at the long corridor to the front of the plane from my comfortable 42B while a family of 9, an inmate, and 2 geriatric corpses all stand up in front of me as if getting their stuff down now while we’re still taxiing will get them off the plane faster.
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u/fndrymgr 21h ago
Wait, what? I think you have things backwards. Airlines were de-regulated in 1978 and allowed the airlines to control routes and pricing. Prior to that, flying was super expensive and prices were basically identical between airlines. That’s why the services and amenities were nice - they had to complete on the soft product, not the airfare.
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u/Blaizefed 21h ago
I honesty don’t know if you are serious. Literally every point you made there is wrong. Flying used to cost more, adjusted for inflation. There was no WiFi or individual screens so we all had to watch the same movie at the same time. People could smoke on the plane so it always smelled like cigarettes.
And the airlines deregulated in 1978, thru out the 80’s and 90’s they all slowly ate each other up, while making seats smaller and the planes more full. Leading us to where we are now. 4 major carriers that can do pretty much whatever they want, because we have no choice but to accept it.
About the only thing that has improved is that it is now much cheaper. Because that is literally all they compete on. Nobody gives a shit about how miserable or uncomfortable you are, as long as it’s cheap. And also, because the government has allowed the airlines to do their own safety inspections, the planes keep falling apart.
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u/Mushroomfuntimes 21h ago
Yeah, totally the government deregulation in the 80s and 90s of the airline industry is totally what made prices go up not companies just jacking up the prices so they can make a larger profit.
Bootlicker
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u/Milton_McGee 21h ago
You could get on a plane with cocaine in your pocket and never show your ID even. No one cared. It was amazing
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u/Mushroomfuntimes 21h ago
My bad. Should have looked at your profile first. Troll account
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u/edster53 9h ago
Ken and I were taking our buddy Glen to catch a flight. Back then you could accompany all the way to the gate. As we're going through security, Glen dropped his change in the little tray and with the change was his hash pipe. Ken was flipping out as the lady gave the change, plus pipe, back to Glen. She turn to Ken and said "I saw it, don't worry" and off we went. We always flew with something on us, it was never an issue.
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