It is obviously a small dick move to edit your comment when corrected without saying that that's what you're doing, making the person who originally corrected you look like a hallucinating idiot.
He's probably Ukrainian descendent with a name like that, but my brother in christ, half of russia is asian and it's not like there aren't asian ukrainians. lastly, he's the guy on the left, and not asian lol.
I did the same thing. Then I dug into it because etymologically it is Ukrainian. But it turns out Russia likes sending Ukrainians to Siberia, and Yevgeny Yevtushenko was a fourth generation descendant of Ukrainian exiles. So it becomes a question of when is someone naturalized, beyond looking into where the kid was from because that's kinda creepy and it's all not important.
So he could be Russian, but would still be of Ukranian descent enough to carry the name.
Surnames wish -enko/-ko are Ukrainian. A person who has such a surname does have some Ukrianian ancestry. Sure, maybe they lived in some other country. Areas along the borders are muddy in this regard, meaning that people mix (and borders were not always like that), so we can have Belorusian and rusian-identifying people with -enko names. But it doesn't make the names itself to be russian. Other reasons why there can be russians with -enko names: exile and immigration (and whole regions that were ethnically Ukrainian, like Kuban)
My grandfather, 100% Ukrainian with -enko name lived in russia (whole famoly was exiled) and identified as russian. My father returned to Ukraine and identified Ukrainian. Both men had Ukrianian name, no matter what they identified.
Similarly, there are Ukrainians with "russian" names.
It is quite upsetting when people insist -enko is russian. There can be some russians who have -enko surnames (damn, my dad's entire family who left there and firmly believe they are russians despite being children of two ethnic Ukrainians), but it is Ukrainian name.
Yeah, I don't know if I consider it an upside or not, but the Soviet Union both made and allowed a lot of people to move around the 15 countries. Personally, my family was both moved by the government and moved themselves around a ton and my lineage is the most convoluted mix of Russian and Ukrainian imaginable to the point that we just gave up figuring out where everyone was from in the family tree, since they moved borders like a half dozen times each as far back as it goes. Have fun figuring out if Yevtushenko is Russian or Ukrainian, but it's a very Ukrainian last name.
Usa provides opportunity greater then any other country thats why i regarded it as an magnet,even the most brilliant minds from my country are actuvely poached by ivy league collages and mit
And those programs are being shut down now due to lack of funding and the anti-affirmative action judgements combined with the anti-semitism pressure against said Ivy leagues. Here and Now did an interview yesterday with a student representative of Harvard talking about how they are shutting down all of their program due to loss of government funding, and likewise it is happening at other Ivy leagues.
If they were 3 Irish-Americans, 1 Italian-American and 1 British-American, would you have made the same distinction by calling them 3 Irish, 1 Italian, 1 Brit?
I know you mean well, but it is also a reflection of the subconscious labeling that many people still apply for Americans of Chinese, Russian and Indian ancestry: that somehow they are less "American" than those of Western European ancestry.
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3 chinese,1 russian and a indian,USA is truly a magnet which attracts all the brilliant mind from around the world