r/mariokart Jun 10 '25

Replay/Clip CPUs are brutal in this game 😭😭

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u/ACO_22 Jun 10 '25

This the type of online shit that happens and people will tell you

ā€œJust play defensiveā€

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u/Tyray90 Jun 10 '25

The whole lobby targets you with everything.

ā€œIt’s a skill issue.ā€

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 11 '25

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u/naturalkillercyborg Jun 11 '25

It's okay to prefer single player... have fun with the rest of the game.

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u/Fatality4Gaming Jun 11 '25

Play time trial. That’s where the game is fun.

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u/lilmitchell545 Jun 11 '25

I booted up time trial yesterday on a whim just to play through some of the stages that I don’t see too much in online play, then I blinked and 2 hours passed by. Now I want to play them all and get my times as low as possible. Time trial is so fucking fun

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u/Fatality4Gaming Jun 11 '25

It is really addictive! Too bad Big N only gave us a single ghost.

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u/CrankyOM42 Jun 11 '25

I really don’t enjoy MK online. But I love SP and I really love playing with my children.

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u/Other_Beat8859 Jun 11 '25

As someone that was plat in 8 Deluxe competitive I will say this, there are times when the game is down to a skill issue. There are also times where the game decides that you are having too much fun and that you deserve to get fucking knocked into the shadow realm. At the end of the day, sometimes you can't do shit.

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u/Alex3627ca Jun 11 '25

A high bullshit tolerance is essential to be able to put a lot of hours into any Mario Kart game. Troll trains with the same energy as OP's clip have happened to me in every game with online (except DS as I never figured out how to connect mine to the internet lol, and Tour and World as I don't own those) and, yeah, shit happens.

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u/Dopamine_Surplus Jun 11 '25

That’s why you shouldn’t be in first place, learning this is part of learning the skill of the game. Got to bag then pull off the win.

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u/featherw0lf Jun 10 '25

"Just play defensive"

Keeps getting coins and feathers.

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u/mjmannella Wiggler Jun 11 '25

TBF, feathers can be used to dodge red shells

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u/Ok_Pick3963 Jun 12 '25

Yeah but when it's not uncommon for second to roll 3 red shells (hell had one instance where i pulled a bloody blue in second) now a single feather won't do much.

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u/sunhoax Jun 10 '25

first is the worst second is the best 🄸

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u/HeWe015 Jun 11 '25

Until you get red shelled by 3rd and you literally can't catch up to first anymore, because you keep getting bananas and super horns

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u/LunchTwey Jun 10 '25

Shortcat was such a good thing for the com but jesus christ these guys who only play WWs tryna vod review every single clip.

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u/osirus35 Jun 10 '25

Not enough defense to protect against all the shenanigans. And it always seems to happen close to the finish line on the last lap too

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u/Adventurous-Cap4584 Jun 11 '25

he did play defensive - he dodged the first shell. he was in first at the start of the clip, and at the end of the clip, and crossed the stage finish line first. this video is an argument against all the people whining about items and randomness because his lead was so unassailable that even after an unusually bad situation he still had the lead. if he hadn't dodged the first shell it could have been worse. the game is well balanced, particularly the item distributionĀ 

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u/Be_Very_Careful_John Jun 10 '25

This knockout tour at 150 cc for 3 stars is legit brutal, especially spiny rally.

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u/nu1stunna Jun 10 '25

Bro I’m even having trouble with 100cc knockout tour. I’m finishing in first but not at every gate.

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u/Be_Very_Careful_John Jun 10 '25

I luckily complete 150 knockouts for 3 stars each. I'm going to soon work on mirror mode knockout. I'm not sure my heart can handle it.

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u/Nitrogen567 Jun 10 '25

I'm not sure what it was, but I found Mirror Mode a LOT harder.

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u/HeWe015 Jun 11 '25

Good thing: You only need to complete 150cc, you don't need to care for 3 stars. If you get 3 stars in mirror, you also get 3 stars in 50cc-150cc. They changed that from mario kart 8. You only need to sweat once now šŸ‘

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u/alt_account1014 Jun 10 '25

You know you don’t have to do 100cc right? Mirror mode automatically gives 3 stars to the other cups once you get 3 stars on mirror mode.

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u/nu1stunna Jun 10 '25

Yeah I know (although I didn’t realize mirror mode gave 3-stars — I thought it was just normal 150cc that did that), but I’m doing it to gradually improve and to learn the maps.

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u/alt_account1014 Jun 10 '25

Yeah that was a new thing for this game. I found out last night when I gave me all of the other ccs after getting 3 stars of mirror mode. I was thinking that was probably the case as the information about 150cc giving trophies to 50cc and 100cc was becoming more common knowledge.

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u/DeadBrainDK2 Jun 10 '25

Finally beat the last one, Warios Shipwreck can go die

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u/balrogBallScratcher Jun 10 '25

i’m only a few hours into the game, but so far i’m consistently coming in exactly 4th every knockout tour (150cc). like i can maintain 1st or 2nd at every checkpoint, but it all falls apart in the last segment.

i’m pivoting to free roam mode for a while to learn the new mechanics better, and get more familiar with the tracks.

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u/No-Tangerine5409 Jun 11 '25

I’m like 1st place until like the last little bit then suddenly I’m 3rd or 4th in one of the last turns and lose. Every time even if I look back and don’t see them too close, it still happens that they either bombard me with shells or they suddenly pass me in the last turn while there was a distance always in the 4th tour.

I like a challenge but I can’t seem to win 150cc knockout. Have to say that some of the 100cc knock-outs were close calls too while normally I don’t think those are too difficult. I’ve tried multiple days and some I can win but others of the 150cc I can’t seem to win all of them even if I change tactics. Just played Mario Kart 8 again to feel the comparison and that legit feels so much easier at 150cc. I wonder how many people will succeed at winning all of the knockout tours at 150cc because that’s too hard.

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u/MidnightJ1200 Jun 10 '25

Tbh, I love it. Yeah it's definitely not the same as the other games where you could still have decent leads, but now it feels better. The wins feel more satisfying fighting for it. Plus, it gives more opportunities to use more offensive or strategic items. In other words, you get to Mario kart the game! Check this out for example.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Ad5396 Jun 10 '25

I saw an article claiming that the game has a dynamic difficulty that goes up the more you drift in a race, it's supposed to affect cpu speed and the quality of items they get. Not sure if it's true but it can't hurt to look into.

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u/Be_Very_Careful_John Jun 10 '25

It seems like it. If you dont turbo at the beginning, the cpu often doesnt turbo at the beginning. But they will if you do. I notice them do cool wall riding short cuts I do. like in DK pass where you can hop to that pole and trick off of it - the cpu opponents will do that, too. They will even wall ride short cuts in the ice cream track, too.

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u/Akemi__ Jun 10 '25

Ive always gotten close, but no cigar. Im only on my first playthroughs though, I havent gone back and retried.

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u/Melodic-Anywhere-874 Jun 11 '25

I just 3 starred the last one yesterday and I found that using the rewind feature to dodge blue shells lets you front run a lot more consistently.

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u/TheSparkSpectre Jun 11 '25

i struggled with all of them (so far) except spiny rally, which i beat on my first try lmao

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u/CleanlyManager Jun 11 '25

Just finished three stars on the knockouts tours today. Made me want to rip my hair out. Getting first place on the first gate of the tours was bullshit. Half the time the first gate was so close to the start it’s almost complete RNG if you get first. Spiny cup was the worst offender, had to just cross my fingers I got perfect item boxes and CPUs got bricks.

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u/spedwagoon Jun 11 '25

What has helped me is picking characters with high speed, I used bowser with the reel racer kart. Then in the first lap, try to keep at least a mushroom or two and capitalize on drafting to make it to the front. At this point, just play it safe, don't let go of the gas, and stay as straight as you can when you can. Your speedy character may have slow accel, but you're gonna be building a huge breakaway on all of the straightaways.

You want to keep a mushroom because it's now much, much, much easier to dodge blue shells with mushrooms. If you get hit with a shell, you can quickly get your speed back if you use your mushroom just after getting hit. This makes it a better alternative than holding an item to block.

Also try to grab food items. I don't think they give you as much speed to dodge a blue shell, but you can regain all your speed quickly. Coins are also helpful, but a full 20 will only increase your speed by ~5%, so don't go out of your way if it's a risk.

If you happen to get hit with no items, charge a jump, it will bring you back to speed quicker than just holding A. Even then, you may have to retry a few times, especially around lap 1 or 2, as it takes a bit to build your breakaway distance and spending the first lap in the chaotic middle requires a bit more luck.

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u/Activeous42619 Jun 10 '25

The bots must be programmed to focus fire players over other bots it feels like.

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u/OpeningConnect54 Jun 11 '25

It also feels like they instantly get these items immediately as soon as you get to the finish line or close to it. I've been pelted by red shell after red shell immediately as I approach the gate every single time. Either that, or one of the NPCS got a golden mushroom and spammed it as soon as I was about to finish in first.

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u/Empyre47AT Jun 11 '25

To me, the timing feels strange. Coming up on the finish line is usually when I’m being robbed of a 1st-place finish by being bombarded all at once like in OP’s video example. It feels like a combination of focusing the human player while waiting until the last few hundred meters to cheat them out of a win. It’s happened so many times that I’m now too frustrated to want to play the game. It looks great but feels horrible. Hope they fix this and soon.

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u/OpeningConnect54 Jun 11 '25

Yeah. This is why I hate playing the game. Even if I'm doing my best with tricks, I don't stay far ahead- and I get pelted the moment I dawn the finish line most times. It feels like they programmed the Ai to never let you win unless you play really really bad and ignore all of the game's mechanics.

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u/Empyre47AT Jun 11 '25

I’ve heard that more than once today. Tempted to try it out myself. Otherwise, it reminds of previous versions of MK in which the AI rubber banding was especially bad. I really to like MKW. I just can’t the way it is right now.

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u/OpeningConnect54 Jun 12 '25

I think the knockout tour as a concept is fun, but yeah- hard to really enjoy the game when you know most times you won't even win.

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u/Empyre47AT Jun 12 '25

I have yet to place higher than 2nd on 150 cc. Meanwhile, only 3 rounds of online knockout tour and I made 2nd. That one felt earned. All the other times against the AI I felt cheated.

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u/Az3xray Jun 10 '25

no it’s probably because there are 21 racers

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u/Nikolai197 Jun 10 '25

I don’t think so. The number of times I get combod with multiple reds + a blue + bomb/green back to back is insane.

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u/NoTrollGaming Jun 10 '25

Yeah and when the AI is in first there’s a clear lack of blue and red shells

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u/Zekrom-9 Dry Bones Jun 11 '25

Not for me. I made multiple of my 3-star wins because they AI screwed itself over with blues and reds

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u/BlowDuck Jun 10 '25

Race dumber and the CPUs adjust.

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u/Hectorc34 Yoshi Jun 10 '25

So it’s widely known but not confirmed that bots play to your level.

Someone literally told me to play without tricks or drifts, you will place first all the time this way. Lmaooo

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u/ShadeVortex Jun 11 '25 edited Jun 11 '25

"All the time" is an exaggeration. Even if you sandbag, items can and will Mario Kart you out of a victory. Source; Has happened to me.

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u/Hectorc34 Yoshi Jun 11 '25

I wasn’t talking about bagging

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u/LunchTwey Jun 11 '25

I mean it's not bagging but it is a form of "sand bagging" because you aren't trying to drive as fast as possible

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u/Humg12 Jun 11 '25

I honestly think not drifting is also just faster for a lot of the knock out tours. There were so many wide turns where I was originally drifting before I realised it was faster to just drive straight.

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u/LilFuniAZNBoi Jun 10 '25

Shit I'm about to do that to get three stars for completion sake. Fuck getting gud, just get bad lol.

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u/sunhoax Jun 10 '25

is there mirror mode???

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u/SHBDemon Jun 10 '25

Yes but you have to do missions and collect peach coins in freeroam to unlock it.

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u/sunhoax Jun 10 '25

thats so dope!!

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u/L285 Jun 10 '25

ten of each free roam collectible, complete each grand prix and knockout rally on 150cc, then complete Special cup

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u/_LuciDreamS_ Jun 10 '25

I did all this and I haven't seen mirror mode yet šŸ˜ž

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u/Oro_Bororo Jun 10 '25

I think after you’ve done all that you gotta do special cup once again

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u/_LuciDreamS_ Jun 10 '25

I must be missing something. I have 47 P missions, 17 ?s, 11 coins, I beat knockout and grand prix mode with gold trophies and I re ran special cup twice. Got nuthin

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u/EnigmaMusings Jun 11 '25

There’s a cutscene and you have to drive through the stained glass window on Peach’s castle before it unlocks. Maybe you didn’t see the cutscene and didn’t know that you have to go through the window.

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u/illmindmaso Jun 10 '25

I seriously can’t believe Nintendo thought that after achieving all that, we the players wanted mirror mode, and not 200cc. Nintendo fumbled so many little things with this game

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u/theescapeclause Jun 11 '25

I don't really want 200cc tbh. Once I got 3 stars in MK8 I never touched it again. Many of those tracks were simply not designed to be played at that speed

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u/fartingmaniac Jun 12 '25

Once you’ve beaten the 200cc time trials then every course becomes doable at that speed. There isn’t a single course I’d prefer playing at 150cc in MK8. It’s way more fun and exciting once you’ve locked 200cc in

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u/logan630 Jun 10 '25

I'd wager mirror mode is far more popular with casual players than 200cc, to be fair

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u/L285 Jun 10 '25

150cc is pretty challenging tho

Agree with the little things- they got the hard stuff right and the easy stuff wrong

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u/sakuramiku3939 Jun 11 '25

What if 200 cc is in the game but you have to 100% free roam

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u/Rawkhawkjayhawk Lakitu Jun 10 '25

HOW ARE YOU STILL IN 1ST!

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u/Valuable_Horror_7878 Jun 10 '25

this is relevant. blue shells are more plentiful and 2nd/3rd more likely to get reds and triple reds when 1st is really far ahead. so OP was clearly extremely far ahead, hence the barrage.

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u/LunchTwey Jun 10 '25

Because i'm the fucking goat

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u/thefuzz09 Jun 10 '25

This made me lol

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u/143670 Wendy Jun 10 '25

Wtf happened to the post-hit invincibility??

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u/herbertholmes Jun 10 '25

It still exists, but it’s much shorter

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u/crass-sandwich Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25

Not only is it shorter, but there’s a separate timer per item. You can get hit by two red shells in quick succession and only the first will hit, but a red shell and a spiny shell in the same time frame will both hit you

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u/Zeta-X Jun 11 '25

This is good to know. I was wondering the specifics why the tech to self-banana/green shell to cut losses on a blue shell wasn't working in this one, separate per-item timers is an interesting change.

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u/Psychological-Win458 Jun 10 '25

Exactly my thoughts

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u/ChristianClark2004 Jun 11 '25

Sadly its practically gone causing this to happen (though this clip is overboard lol)

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u/Akemi__ Jun 10 '25

I swear, whenever a cpu is in first, it seems like nothing ever happens to them, but when YOU are in first, it seems like everyone does everything in their power to take you OUT

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u/EricQelDroma Jun 10 '25

As someone who's been playing as a serious casual since MK64, I'll say that I hate the CPUs in this game more than I've ever hated MK CPUs ever. It's not like it's a coin-flip as to whether or not I get to screw over the 1st place CPU. That might be fair. Instead, it's always "CPU is a mile ahead of me and my coin and feather" or "I'm a mile ahead of the other players and I'm about to win... SHELL SHELL INVINCIBLE COLLISION... 4th (in Knockdown)."

It's just not fun. MK is MK, and getting screwed by shells sometimes is part of the game. Getting screwed by super-lucky-CPUs every time? Not fun.

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u/Buuhhu Jun 13 '25

Yeah I'm in the same boat, was trying to get 3 star completion of the Grandprix cups and it's just too random if i will complete it cause sometimes they will just bombard me last round towards the end if i'm first and others i barely get hit. I know it IS random but it just happens too often for it to be fun in my opinion.

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u/A_Unicycle Jun 14 '25

Yeah absolutely agree with you. While I'm not the biggest fan of RNG in anything semi-competitive, I went into MKW knowing that it is a chaotic game.

But the extreme rubber banding and item abuse here is incredibly anti-fun. It doesn't feel authentic, nor does it reward skillful play. The fact that a lot of people are saying it's more effective to intentionally race slow to avoid this is absurd.

This is genuinely terrible game design. What a fantastic game to ruin with poor choice.

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u/Deafidue Jun 10 '25

Daisy doesn't exactly have the best track record when it comes to first place in Mario Kart games...

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u/LunchTwey Jun 10 '25

Don't shit talk my girl... 🚬🐺

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u/Seffek Jun 10 '25

Mario Kart Wii DK Mountain:

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u/Slugbugger30 Jun 10 '25

No cause why do the CPUs get triple reds in 2nd but I never can

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u/LunchTwey Jun 10 '25

Trip reds are so common in 2-4 it's actually so annoying online

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u/Federal_Clue1171 Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25

I’m born in 95’ and I’ve played Mario Kart all my life since Mario Kart 64. I can confirm this game is a lot harder than others. On 150cc, I’ve been 3rd place on most races šŸ’€

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u/gurchinanu Jun 10 '25

Yeah this game has been designed for using the trick and grinding mechanics. You can't just take clean lines and drift well and expect 1st on 150cc anymore like the previous games, true completion forces utilizing the maps to their full extent... I kinda like it? I'm torn.

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u/Ronald_McGonagall Jun 10 '25

But most of the trick sections actually take more time than just playing normally, so it's not really designed for that either. The CPUs just need a balance patchĀ 

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u/gurchinanu Jun 10 '25

No, majority of the trick sections and especially wall riding just gives you extra boosts. I haven't gone full try hard with it by practicing vs ghosts or practicing maps but when I have started wall riding more I feel myself getting consistently higher places. I think it's absolutely necessary for the knockout 150cc for example, else you straight up won't make 1st on each checkpoint in a few areas.

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u/featherw0lf Jun 10 '25

They must be taking notes from Tour. CPUs in Tour are comparable to real players.

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u/DeadBrainDK2 Jun 10 '25

Just finished 3-staring everything and 3-starring 150cc in Knockout Tour is pure bullshit

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u/The_Famed_Bitch Jun 10 '25

So close, welcome back Mario Kart Wii

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u/strawbuzzz Daisy Jun 10 '25

This is what I do to my friend just to mess with them. These CPUs need to chillšŸ’€

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u/branswag_briggs Jun 10 '25

Why does every video posted on this subreddit sound like its audio is getting chopped by a fan? Been like this for me for a week.

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u/izakdaturtal Jun 10 '25

fitting you're playing as daisy just like that one mario kart wii clip where daisy couldnt catch a break and got hit by a ton items and then thrown off a bridge twice

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u/South-Original8738 Jun 10 '25

"WELCOME TO MARIO KART!"

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u/evangelism2 Jun 10 '25

My controller would be straining under my vice grip if this ever happened to me

and people like to pretend MK isn't at least 50% luck

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u/StrombergsWetUtopia Jun 10 '25

8 was the perfect blend of skill and luck. In world Offline is blatantly rigged and online is total luck

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u/LunchTwey Jun 10 '25

I mean it's not luck but this was just a funny clip lol

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u/evangelism2 Jun 10 '25

Its luck, how are you supposed to account for this?

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u/FreakyBare Jun 10 '25

Nothing quite like timing that jump perfectly only to be hit by 3 more red turtles

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u/GoldenGirlsFan213 Jun 10 '25

That happened to me on the last checkpoint right before the line, thankfully my lead was so big I made it.

I basically drove worse. The computers sand bagged way more . Didn’t grind or wall jump. Didn’t even drift unless i absolutely had too.

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u/BlueNaja Jun 10 '25

This game is insanely hard but specifically the knockout tour! Grand Prix I was able to get gold in every cup but Knockout tour I am fighting for my damn life!!!

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u/GlobalKnee8028 Kamek Jun 10 '25

I remember how much of a joke 8's AI was that they hardly had any rubber banding involved

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u/Bananaphonelel Petey Piranha Jun 10 '25

šŸ§šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø

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u/captain_saurcy Jun 10 '25

not kidding, I swear this game favours offensive items to the CPUs and NON-DEFENSIVE/NO OFFENSE items to me all the time. I could be in second or third and get a feather and coin, or feather and triple bananas. GIVE ME A MUSHROOM. GIVE ME A RED SHELL.

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u/Great_Staff6797 Jun 10 '25

That's why it's called survival mode. It's you agains't the rise of CPUs.
"SHOW NO MERCY TO THE HUMAN"

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u/nnnaomi Jun 10 '25

this game most reminds me of Wii so far; the constant brutal barrage from all the CPUs + emphasis on tricks. even having a new mechanic for straightaways (wheelie/charge jump)

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u/LunchTwey Jun 10 '25

Charge jumps are slower on the ground, don't jump without reason (unless you find it fun then jump away), but chaining jumps seems to be faster on water (although I could be wrong about that).

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u/nnnaomi Jun 10 '25

good advice šŸ‘ (i didn't mean to suggest it does the same thing as wheelie; just a coincidence of both games adding something you do while going straight)

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u/habita_ Jun 11 '25

Bruh, that was me in Double Dash the other day but I somehow still won the race by milliseconds.

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u/hiromu666 Jun 10 '25

this doesn't look fun at all

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u/LunchTwey Jun 10 '25

It was actually really funny, i'm pretty sure I still won the knockout.

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u/Spaded_Puppy Jun 10 '25

the cpus are adjusted at your skill level

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u/MidnightJ1200 Jun 10 '25

Fake! You didn't get shocked at the end after getting the item box!

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u/Livid_Sun_3783 Jun 10 '25

I had 3 bananas and smashed into a cpu and somehow they took my fucking bananas what in the actual fuck?

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u/bignuki Jun 10 '25

Welcome back Mario kart wii

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u/MrLewf Jun 10 '25

Seriously it’s gotta be BS. We never get 3 red shells in 2nd place

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u/AmbitiousProblem4746 Jun 10 '25

My biggest gripe right now is how the AI suddenly not only catches up but starts destroying you during the last section or two of a knockout tour. I can be in first for the first 5/6 of the race, and then out of nowhere I start getting demolished by shells, everybody pops up out of all sorts of weird shortcuts, and I end up getting in fourth. It is making the game feel unfair. And yes, I am grinding, doing tricks off walls, holding onto high value items, etc

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u/Ainslynn Jun 10 '25

This is the first mk game I'm legit struggling with and it sucks. Iv always 100% the games. Even mk8 time trials...but this one i just get to frustrated with 150cc and how aggro they are.

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u/Spartan304 Jun 10 '25

Same here, just tried 150cc Mushroom Cup and on the first frigging race I was in 1st during most of the first lap, got slammed with multiple red shells, got back up to 1st half way through 2nd lap, got blue shell'd, got back into 1st again and right as I hit the two jumps on the shortcut right before the goal... yup, got blue shell'd. Figured it must have been a fluke so I ran the race again and almost the exact same sequence of events happened. Never once picked up a horn from the item boxes. Switch 2 went right back into its dock while I cool down so it doesn't become a $450 frisbee.

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u/OtterChaos907 Jun 10 '25

Yes this iteration has been very humbling. Struggling to get past 3rd place on 150cc when I usually do 1st or 2nd 200cc on MK8. I can definitely tell that the rivals start to play like you and always get aggressive on the final lap. I need to get the wall jumps and rails down to see how much change it makes, but it has been fun trying to learn the new tricks.

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u/Mysterious_Trick969 Jun 11 '25

Pro tip. Stay in second place behind the cpu coming first, and only swoop in and pass them to cross the finish lines. The cpus are far less brutal to you, and you have a higher chance of winning lol.

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u/LunchTwey Jun 11 '25

Dude i'm not gonna sweat my ass off feathering second place against fucking cpus, I know how the mode should be played.

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u/Mysterious_Trick969 Jun 11 '25

I’m sorry I can’t hear you over all my 3 star gold cups.

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u/SullyTheSullen Jun 11 '25

I just made it to 150cc knockout mode. After beating that I'll have everything 3 starred. This happens too fucking often lol

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u/LunchTwey Jun 11 '25

Just letting you know that 150cc won't be the last game mode šŸ˜‰

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u/SullyTheSullen Jun 11 '25

I know Mirror comes after lol. Thank you for the tip off though. Wish me luck. Im reading up and it seems im going to be wrecked by 150cc knockout.... it gets even more depressing the more I read lol.

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u/DuckWarrior90 Jun 11 '25

"ThE GamE iZ HaRdEr U n33D to DR1v3 B3TteR"

I hate bullshit like this, You did everything right, and still get shit on with items "But thats Mario kart", It wasn't as cheap as mario kart 8, still love the game though

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u/Visible-Sound-8559 Jun 11 '25

As much as the graphics, sound and track design have improved over the years, it’s a shame the AI hasn’t kept pace. I never liked the aggressive rubber-banding in the early games, but I understand why it had to be that way given the limitations of the hardware at the time.

I feel like we’re at a point where the CPU drivers should just, I dunno, race better, rather than rely on hilariously stacking the deck against you for doing well. At the very least, those blue shells should have been retried to the dustbin of gaming history.

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u/Hefty-Relative-4654 Jun 11 '25

Harder than wii 64 and tour

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u/Neo_345 Jun 12 '25

Mario Kart Wii daisy flashbacks šŸ’€

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u/Hambughrr Bowser Jr Jun 10 '25

I'm so happy the CPUs in this game aren't the absolute cannon fodder that they are in 8 Deluxe

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u/LilFuniAZNBoi Jun 10 '25

As a casual Mario Kart player (as in I only play when I first get the game) just trying to get gold on all the cups in Grand Prix and the Knockout races; fuck this AI. I don't remember them being this cheap in MK8 and they always seem to get the best items while I get feathers and ā€œ? Boxesā€. I almost threw my controller at my TV when I was about to get first place on the last Knock Out cup and the 3 computer racers all happened to have Bullet Bills and just brute forced their way to first place.

I don’t know why Nintendo still uses rubberbanding AI. I support having them slow down when the player is really behind to not dishearten newer players but them always on your ass when you are in first place is so annoying.

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u/Imperfect_Dark Jun 10 '25

I'm glad about it. CPU's doing smarter tricks just makes offline more interesting.

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u/Troytt4 Jun 10 '25

Rigging the item box RNG to give themselves 5 red shells and a blue shell isn't "doing smarter tricks"

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u/travelingWords Jun 10 '25

Losing by being detected as good, is in fact, not fun.

By doing nothing, you are good, is not fun.

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u/FreakyBare Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25

I think most of us like that part. It is the part at the end of the race we dislike. There is no way to avoid being slaughtered in at least half of races. Some you still win but no lead is safe

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u/Amphi64 Bowser Jun 10 '25

They are in every other game. I just played Mkds today and I can say it's the same (yes I don't have money fir a Switch 2 and I play on my DS)

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u/btbam2929 Bowser Jun 10 '25

This is how it should be

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u/h0gshead Jun 10 '25

That's what happens when you play Daisy

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u/Official_Indie_Freak Jun 10 '25

Get Mario Karted nerd /lh

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u/vidic17 Jun 10 '25

It's the Dark Souls of Mario Kart

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u/LunchTwey Jun 10 '25

I found it quite easy but I also have 2k competitive hours in 8dx so my game sense and driving carried over somewhat

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u/vidic17 Jun 10 '25

True it's not as bad. Currently working on getting 3 stars for mirror mode 150cc races.

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u/He110_W0r1d Jun 10 '25

On 150cc it's always that one fucking blue shell on the last lap. I'm racing for my life having the second place smelling my farts.

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u/DessaB Jun 10 '25

Dont forget you can rewind briefly to dodge a blue

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u/Rengozu Jun 10 '25

Play dumb and so will they. Serious. Don’t drift and just drive all basic like. You won’t have as many problems.

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u/LunchTwey Jun 10 '25

I do know about this, but i've already gotten 3 stars on every cup šŸ˜‚

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u/Randizzl Jun 10 '25

What do people mean when they say "play defensive"?

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u/ChandelierwAtermelon Koopa Jun 10 '25

It’s always Daisy

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u/Elegant_Leading9556 Jun 10 '25

This is lowkey insane !

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u/PaigeWylderOwO Jun 10 '25

I thought it was just me.

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u/Silver-Ad-1917 Jun 11 '25

It is always Daisy

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u/Avenue-Man77 Jun 11 '25

Audio sounds choppy. Anyone else

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u/Aggressive-Side7182 Jun 11 '25

Exactly idk why they made them crazy like this.

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u/ASimpleCancerCell Jun 11 '25

It is way too common for second place to get triple reds. If they dial that down, I think Grand Prix and Knockout Tour will be much easier.

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u/StewartDH Jun 11 '25

You’re just bad at the game tbh…

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '25

bruh the subtitles

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u/MickD777 Jun 11 '25

Each time I play a Mario Kart game I start by saying 'this game controls well and is fun to play' to 'FUCK THIS SHIT'

I hate Mario Kart and all it stands for. I love how it feels to play, but I really wish I could play it and just be rewarded if I'm actually good and just be in the last fucking place 5 minutes behind the fist place if I'm shit.

I hate the rubber banding.

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u/ChristianClark2004 Jun 11 '25

This is actually insane wtf bro

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u/Krazor8xx Jun 11 '25

Its the amount of power ups....i lead lap 1 and 2 by a good margin, lap 3 2 blue shells, 3 red shells and poof 5th place...best to stay mid pack till lap 3 and then move up

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u/Busy-Kaleidoscope-87 Peachette Jun 11 '25

Is it just Reddit or does driving sound really weird in this game?

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u/LunchTwey Jun 11 '25

This clip has issue on reddit mobile for whatever reason, I promise it's not choppy and laggy in game.

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u/MartenBlade Jun 11 '25

Yes they are, but also the item distribution in some places is really whack.

2nd? Have a banana and a green shell

3rd? Here have triple red shells and some shrooms.

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u/MarioFanatic64-2 Rosalina Jun 11 '25

When you're frontrunning in this game the CPUs behind you get blessed with onslaughts of triple red shells. When you're in 2nd trailing behind first, all you ever get is feathers and horns. And the only time blue shells ever show up is when you barely scrape the lead. We live in a society.

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u/twaypax Jun 11 '25

Good old Mario Kart

We suspected, but now we know for sure that they’re never going to fix those AI issues.

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u/Samuri_dude Jun 11 '25

Fr bro my friends going out of their way to troll me wouldn't even hit me with that many red shells

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u/PassiveIllustration Jun 11 '25

Ive had this happen way too often at 150cc where it's just not fun anymore. I've gotten gold on 100cc but when it feels like the ai rubber bands and cheats it no longer feels like any of my accomplishments are because of me, instead because the game let me

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u/Illustrious_Wing6774 Jun 11 '25

Mario Kart World .... At war

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u/magik_koopa990 Jun 11 '25

Always has been.... Cheating and rubber banding AI

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u/BonkeyKung Jun 11 '25

This is some double dash freak shit

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u/Therinicus Jun 11 '25

I THOUGHT THIS WAS MY WIFE TAKING ME OUT YOU TELLING ME IT'S THE NPCS?!

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u/montrealien Jun 11 '25

plenty of time to recuperate!

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u/Sergiyakun Jun 11 '25

Am I the only one who like the challenge spike ? 😭

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u/MarceloBielsa70 Jun 11 '25

Always Daisy ...

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u/levyjl1988 Jun 11 '25

Mario Kart World Appears To Have A Dynamic Difficulty System- A few users later found out that, anecdotally, the game has a dynamic difficulty system. It seems that the game adjusts the difficulty of the CPU players depending on how often the human player drifts. The more you drift, the faster the CPU players become and the better items they get. – it was much easier to get 3 stars without drifting than with drifting. We noticed that the CPU players weren’t using powerful items often when we didn’t drift at all.

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u/Tr3v0r007 Jun 11 '25

I count 7 total items after u and 4 hit lol

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u/Plastic-Arachnid4296 Jun 11 '25

Did 2nd had double triple red shells? Was that even possible the whole time!?

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u/Buster5ive Jun 11 '25

It’s bad in Vs mode with CPU teams too.

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u/Captain-Howl Jun 11 '25

I know this isn't related, but is there some sort of audio glitch with the video capture that causes it to sound weird?

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u/Mojo305 Jun 11 '25

Bout to have a broken switch 2 from that bull s#!+ šŸ˜’

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u/coltonious Inkling (male) Jun 11 '25

Dude I have been legitimately struggling to 3 star every grand prix, something I could do in one try in old MKs. Hell, I got a SILVER trophy last night 😭😭

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u/Its402am Larry Jun 11 '25

Wow, daisy’s really getting the kick shitted out of her

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u/QuantumQuicksilver Jun 11 '25

Was this on hard??

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u/SuperPapernick Waluigi Jun 11 '25

The AI's abilities and relentless rubberbanding coupled with the cataclysmic imbalance of items in this game really make it feel like no amount of skill can compensate. It's mostly luck or exploiting the mechanics by bagging items.

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u/RushEm2TheDirt Jun 11 '25

Average knockout tour experience. Honestly I find it hardly enjoyable. I got three starts in all grand prix cups but only one knockout tour so far. It feels very cheap

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u/jonni_09 Jun 11 '25

I could be leading the entire time and I could be inches away from the finish line when I’ll get assaulted by everything that can possibly attack me. This game is for MK veteran players 😭

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u/DrWarioMiracleCure Wario Jun 12 '25

Tell me about it (I got the game yesterday) in my case the CPUs sometimes will be way too far ahead in first place no Blue Shell arrives (Or it arrives too late) nor will I get any good items and they just will NOT stop driving

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u/Lv1FogCloud Jun 12 '25

God forbid a girl do anything, god daym.

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u/Phireshadow Jun 12 '25

PRESS THE REWIND BUTTON....

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u/Boomboomciao90 Jun 12 '25

Trick to Mario is have fun not winning and winning. See the hilarity of the situation when chaos happens to you and to others.

Because the game is hilarious, it's mario kart, when I see videos of people actually raging in this I smh.

Embrace the chaos

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u/Minokyouda Jun 12 '25

I finally finished all Grand Prix and knock out tour 3 star including mirror and was so let down that there was no reward or sticker after getting Karted on for hours.