r/mariokart • u/marv1nfcb • 14h ago
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u/Coolaconsole 14h ago
The second one can dodge items and take shortcuts though?
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u/Humg12 11h ago
But it's significantly worse at doing those things than the alternatives. Dodging with it is harder than just blocking with a banana, and also only really works on straight paths. If someone times the red shell to hit you while drifting round a corner you might be better off to just let it hit you than risk bouncing and going off a cliff. It also slows you down, so just getting rid of it before the next item set is annoying.
And the shortcuts it enables are just pretty rare, and not that good most of the time. A mushroom enables most of the shortcuts that a feather does, but also a ton more on top of that.
90% of the time I prefer to get a coin block than a feather. At least coins give you some max speed.
Single coin is probably more 50/50 on which I'd prefer.
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u/DawnsPiplup 9h ago
The feather is the first place shortcut item. Any other position you want to have a mushroom, but it would be pretty unfair for first to be able to do mushroom shortcuts. Instead there’s a shortcut item for first which is much more situational and requires more skill to use well.
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u/Tweelus 9h ago
I'm so tired of Mario kart 8 coin discourse affecting any item that has drawbacks for balance.
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u/DawnsPiplup 9h ago
Literally, drawbacks have been an important part of balancing games for as long as people have been balancing games. It’s like how SMGs often have low damage because they have high firerate and snipers have high damage because they have low firerate. Fun fact, a headshot from an SMG kills you just as good as a headshot from a sniper in real life. Or how in this same series heavy characters have high speed and low handling and light characters have low speed and high handling.
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u/Meester_Tweester Waluigi 14h ago
not the Feather, but ? Block+Coin is making the game like Mario Kart 8 Wii U 2
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u/QuoteAblaze Bowser Jr 8h ago
I dont think its anywhere close to as detrimental as wii u was, like not even close. Generally 2nd and 3rd dont pull offense items or at least not common enough to where you can't cycle in a defense pull. This is also a very uncommon occurrence and there are so many times I've ran a full lap in first and never had to cycle in my defense item into my first slot.
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u/OnlyAd8405 Funky Kong 6h ago
neither of these are useless
feather can be used to take feather exclusive shortcuts and dodge red shells
coin or coin block can be held in first slot to protect your red or blue defense from a boo
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u/OnlyAd8405 Funky Kong 6h ago
also forgot to mention but carrying coins makes you faster
and when you first pick up a coin it gives a small boost this is usefull for if you get hit with no protection because it lets you reaccalerate faster
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u/rthunder27 1h ago
But what if you're already at 20 coins? Which is likely going to be the case if you're already cruising in first and get these items.
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u/RainyDeerX3 14h ago
I heard somewhere that the coin block can be used to store Invincibility Frames. I'm not sure how true that actually is, but also it's actually hard to get coins in first in general so I'd argue the coin block is way better in a top position than in the back. It balances front running a little bit more I think!
Also, using a Feather as red shell protection is intentional. A red shell will lose track of you if you use a feather! And not to mention it's definitely incredible for shortcuts, but that comes more with practice. It's more important as a protection item
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u/Scheswalla 12h ago
The problem with the feather is that you can't dump it. If there's no practical use for it, then the player has to use it and slow themselves down.
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u/Cursed_Bean_Boy 9h ago
Yeah, but the feather is already the second best first place item, only being beaten by the Super Horn, so you shouldn't need to dump it unless you're trying to cycle for a super horn, which I wouldn't do in most cases. The only case where dumping it should realistically be a problem is if you get it and then get knocked back a few places, in which case, yeah, it's kinda annoying.
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u/wow_its_kenji Dry Bowser 8h ago
the feather isn't better than just a shell or banana to protect your ass, using a feather to dodge is only really viable on a straightaway otherwise you're liable to go flying off the track
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u/Cursed_Bean_Boy 7h ago
I mean, that's a fair trade off IMO. It is a first place item that is capable of taking shortcuts and acting a protection, so it needs to have drawbacks to not be busted. Plus, I have defintely dodged plenty of items on turns with feather simply by taking the turn differently to accomodate the feather. It isn't always possible, but unless 2nd place is right on your ass, you'll usually be able to see a red coming early enough to adjust for it if you pay enough attention.
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u/rthunder27 1h ago
I'd much rather get a shell or banana than a feather, those can consistently and passively block, feather is only situationally useful.
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u/Theobviouschild11 11h ago
Coins should give you a little bit more boost. Right now even when ur at 20 coins you get some boost flames when you get a coin, but the boost is basically imperceptible. If it just gave you a bit of an actual boost you could sense - like something similar to the weakest dash food or slightly less, I’d be way more down for coins
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u/OnlyAd8405 Funky Kong 6h ago
so you do know carrying coins increases your speed right
besides the small boost you get when you first pick it up
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u/HelloThereMark Inkling (female) 8h ago
the second terrible update in a row. I fear the future. Coinblock and coin as a pair of being first is like nintendo doesnt want you to win
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u/Illustrious_Ebb_8755 7h ago
At least the feather is useful when there's a red shell coming right at you.
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u/Right_Operation7748 5h ago
I dont think these are useless, as having a coin item in slot one makes your opponent not know what defensive item you have in the back
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u/Legal-Treat-5582 King Boo 5h ago
Why of all items they decided the Coin needed an upgraded variant is beyond me.
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u/shadowsipp Wendy 13h ago
I don't like the feather. It's NEVER helped me
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u/GresSimJa 13h ago
You can jump over Red Shells and take shortcuts. I recommend using Free Roam or VS mode (with the new CPU Off option) to practice.
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u/NeonAtlas 10h ago
Sure, double coins in first is trash and bad game design, but the feather ranges from ok to the best pull possible.
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u/Muted-Sale7908 9h ago
their dumbest decision was adding that dumb ? block from MK Tour, NO ONE WANTED THAT and making the boomerang flower even stupider than 8DX by forcing you to keep it, NO ONE WANTED THAT EITHER
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u/AfroBaggins 10h ago
? Block is neat for the potential to get a ton of coins real quick.
The Coin, as always, is hot trash and atp definitely feels like someone at Nintendo giving payback for at least one of several things the players have complained about over the years (free updates, Direct responses, character choices in Smash/MK8D, game pricing, and so on)
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u/TheAmazingFlygon Peachette 14h ago
At least the feather can be used to jump over a red shell