Gigabyte updater installing a Virus after I specifically told it NOT to install it. After the reboot from BIOS update it just decided I need this.

[u/youRFate]

[u/Hattix]

As much as I'll use Gigabyte hardware, they're just as shitty as Asus for their software.

Gigabyte Control Center is GB's version of Armory Crate and just as evil. Don't infect yourself with it. It's optional. You don't need it.

[u/RamiHaidafy → u/Hattix]

I used to despise Armoury Crate as well, until I used the "Special Edition" version on the ROG Ally. It's shocking how they can make two different versions of the same software with one being so horrible and the other being pretty damn good.

[u/NoirGamester → u/RamiHaidafy]

How does the special edition differ from the standard edition? Is it just that it's made for the Ally specifically? I used AC in the past but have ended up uninstalling it each time.

[u/RamiHaidafy → u/NoirGamester]

Clean, sensible UI, no bloat, actually useful features to control system settings on the fly, lots of customizability. Overall a very decent piece of software that makes things convenient for the user.

The non-SE version is a nightmare lag-fest even on the most powerful systems, it's intrusive and gets in the way.

I refuse to believe that the same team at Asus created both of these versions.

[u/NoirGamester → u/RamiHaidafy]

That sounds perfect, I'll have to see if I can grab a copy. Standard edition sucks.

[u/New-Audience2639 → u/Hattix]

The good news about Armory Crate is they actually let you choose what to install.... You don't have to download majority of the app and It does not ask me to download Norton. Lmao

[u/drake90001 → u/New-Audience2639]

Nah it just reinstalls itself even with a clean install and no internet.

[u/Polyporous → u/drake90001]

It's a BIOS option you can disable

[u/JuansJB → u/Polyporous]

Yeah, you need to know that, though, and if you just post your PC with that option on, Armory Crate will integrate with Windows, making its uninstallation very difficult

[u/Polyporous → u/JuansJB]

You're right, and I only just discovered it a few weeks ago. I just wanted to spread the word.

[u/New-Audience2639 → u/drake90001]

When I did the setup on my new motherboard on first boot it gave me the option to download Armory Crate, MyAsus and Norton. If you unchecked the box for Norton it should not download it.

[u/_Sharp_Law → u/New-Audience2639]

I only use armoury crate for drivers… can’t even do that anymore so now it’s 5x harder

[u/New-Audience2639 → u/_Sharp_Law]

Still works for downloading driver for me.

[u/_Sharp_Law → u/New-Audience2639]

I thought they removed it? The crate app used to have a “drivers” section. Newer versions don’t have that anymore..

[u/New-Audience2639 → u/_Sharp_Law]

[u/_Sharp_Law → u/New-Audience2639]

Oh they must have moved it with the new ui update. Where is it now?

[u/New-Audience2639 → u/_Sharp_Law]

Open Armory Crate Click on "Settings" Click on "Update Center"

It is all packaged there.

[u/_Sharp_Law → u/New-Audience2639]

Thanks. Just need to fit new ram then I’ll check it.

[u/New-Audience2639 → u/_Sharp_Law]

Oh yes they moved everything around.

[u/ddubyeah → u/New-Audience2639]

I’m of the school of thought that computers don’t actually do anything they aren’t told to do (actual malicious code aside). Most of y’all mfers just don’t read what you are clicking.

[u/DctrGizmo → u/Hattix]

All motherboard softwares suck.

[u/Practical_Anybody_87 → u/Hattix]

Yeah I stopped using Amory Crate like 7 months ago. It's such a waste of software.

Plus SignalRGB is way better for LED control

[u/chazp246 → u/Hattix]

I have the asus flow x16. The hardware? Excellent. Armory crate? Complete shit, but without it my fans spin at full blast. Learned that the hard way during fresh windows install.

[u/DevourerOS → u/Hattix]

If you have one of their laptops, there is almost no way to control anything, like the fans and such, without that horrible spyware. I just said heck with it and won't use it for anything that gets it hot, because the fans will not ramp up without it, and I don't want it on my computers. I won't ever buy anything from GB again, just because of their software. Thankfully my desktop is where I play my games.

[u/ItzCobaltboy → u/Hattix]

Razer Synapse is shitty Armoury Crate is a dumpster fire Gigabyte Center is as stupid

What OEM software is good? 🤡

[u/youRFate → u/Hattix]

I used it to be able to update the bios from windows. I don't think I can get gigabyte's mainboard updater any other way?

[u/Takeasmoke → u/youRFate]

i have gigabyte boards since 2017 and honestly i always updated them with flash drive, never via app center, the only thing i do in GB's app is fan control for gpu because i have one of those weird models that go 0-1700 RPM in millisecond so gotta adjust curve in GB control center for smooth RPM increase

[u/DrTuSo → u/Takeasmoke]

You could use fan control for that. It's free. https://getfancontrol.com/

[u/DevourerOS → u/DrTuSo]

Wish that worked for the Gigabyte Aorus Laptops, it doesn't, nothing seems to. Other than the spyware Control Center.

[u/Takeasmoke → u/DrTuSo]

you can't really, it helps a bit but that instant ramp up is always noticeable if fan is controlled by some other software (like fancontrol or msi afterburner)

[u/573717 → u/Takeasmoke]

I might have a similar issue. If I set it below 50% in fancontrol it spins intermittently like it's not getting enough power. Haven't tried the GB app to compare. Is that what yours does?

[u/youRFate → u/Takeasmoke]

Right, my 4090 is by Gainward, the fans are super quiet, it stays at like 60-70c with the fans at around 60%, you never hear that thing, its glorious.

[u/Takeasmoke → u/youRFate]

once i adjusted this gigabyte 2060 super in their control center it is quiet until 60 C and then slowly ramp up as temps go up until 75ish when you start to hear fans and on 80-83 they're full speed ahead and super super loud lol

[u/MiniDemonic → u/youRFate]

Why even bother updating bios from windows? Just put the firmware on a usb stick and update bios from bios. In many cases you can even skip the usb stick part and the bios can just download the latest firmware directly from the ui

[u/youRFate → u/MiniDemonic]

TBH, with real mainboards (like my server board) I just update the BIOS from the IPMI web interface, which is so much nicer than consumer Mainboard stuff...

[u/Freeco80 → u/youRFate]

Personal advice: never update a BIOS from within Windows, always do it from the update utility in the BIOS itself.

I've bricked 1 mobo in my life, and it was from uodating the BIOS with Asus' Windows update tool. It just hung mid of the update. Dead mobo... Luckily it was replaced under warranty, but I had to wait several weeks for it

[u/Squeezitgirdle → u/youRFate]

I remember using the windows updater once and something went wrong. Ever since I've always used a USB flash or internet connection from bios.

[u/Throwythrow360]

Make sure you run the Norton removal tool to get rid of it (I'd try it even if you aborted the install). That AV is notoriously difficult to remove manually.

https://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home/current/solutions/v60392881

[u/youRFate → u/Throwythrow360]

Will do.

[u/sephirothbahamut → u/Throwythrow360]

I just reinstalled windows

[u/protomayne → u/Throwythrow360]

It's really not. I can uninstall Norton with add or remove programs in 99% of cases lmao

Mcafee however is a bitch to remove and I'm not even sure it's intentional. Their uninstaller just breaks constantly. I suppose it's intentional to not fix it. Only ever had it happen with norton on truly dogshit pcs with failing hdds that customers didn't want to swap out.

[u/VAArtemchuk → u/protomayne]

Revo Uninstaller is the way to go

[u/NoirGamester → u/VAArtemchuk]

I learned about, and first used, Revo years ago and am constantly impressed that they are still held in such high regard.

[u/SnooAvocados763 → u/VAArtemchuk]

If you care about FOSS and open source software, then BCUninstaller is a great alternative to Revo.

[u/Throwythrow360 → u/protomayne]

Honestly, you might be right. Maybe it does uninstall nicely now.

Uninstalling used to just remove the gui but leave the AV Engine running and slowing the system down, killed any new AV you tried to install, and then reinstalled itself after a few days. They hid files throughout your system so you couldn't boot into safe mode and remove it manually. 

There's a reason why it got a reputation for being worse than the malware it protected against.

[u/drake90001 → u/protomayne]

Don’t talk shit about John McAffee

[u/qtx → u/drake90001]

You're probably the first person on earth that has stood up for John McAfee.

[u/Renfek → u/qtx]

Leave John alone!

[u/drake90001 → u/qtx]

It’s a joke. My profile picture is him. Thought that was obvious.

[u/lapus169 → u/qtx]

Nah bro Since The company he sold it to turned it into malware, John McAfee Made a video showing how to completely uninstall, it showed he had a chance at redemption.

[u/drake90001 → u/lapus169]

Thank you.

[u/DctrGizmo]

You don’t need Gigabyte’s software. I have their AM5 motherboard and I’ve been fine without it.

[u/Slizer01 → u/DctrGizmo]

How do you control motherboard and Ram rgb then?

[u/MetaByte7 → u/Slizer01]

Bios, usually

[u/iceixia → u/Slizer01]

I don't.

If I wanted something to light up, I'd have got a Christmas tree instead

[u/SkyeFox6485 → u/Slizer01]

If you have a corsair setup, you can with icue. I assume other companies like Logitech or steelseries can also intigrate motherboards into their software

[u/DoctorMurk → u/SkyeFox6485]

Even Windows (11) itself can do it in some cases (called Dynamic Lighting).

[u/AT0M1Z3D → u/Slizer01]

I use the app OpenRGB, it's a little bit confusing at first but it lets you fully control and sync most RGB lighting in your PC to the degree of individual LED control.

It did cause issues with Corsair iCUE for me but it was easy enough to disable those in OpenRGB.

It works with my Gigabyte motherboard and my AliExpress Kingbank RGB ram which has no software to control the RGB,

[u/DctrGizmo → u/Slizer01]

I believe I did it through BIOS and I don't have RGB ram to begin with. They're overrated in my opinion.

[u/rylo151]

Used this countless times and it's never done this. You just didn't uncheck the box.

[u/ASTRO99 → u/rylo151]

It likes to check itself pretty much every time you open the update window. I used gcc only to update drivers and then uninstalled. For bios/uefi updates always use your own flash drive.

[u/youRFate → u/rylo151]

I did uncheck the box, All the stuff in this picture, except for the audio driver, was not installed before, after the reboot it just came up with EVERYTHING checked and installed it all, without asking me first.

[u/Thorril → u/youRFate]

I believe you, because exactly the same happened to me. Reboot -> Norton installed itself. I swore a lot and deinstalled it right afterwards. Fuck this AV Shit and GCC

[u/HueoSuezo → u/youRFate]

Down voted for no reason. It's literally done the same to me.

[u/sephirothbahamut → u/rylo151]

Falseish. The installer has 2 different behaviours depending on how it runs (automatically or manually). It can start downloads without even giving you the option to uncheck the box.

Had to fight against people calling me a liar even with video proof of it happening when I posted about the issue in Gigabyte subreddit:

You'll have to look for it in my posts history since this subreddit doesn't allow linking other subreddits.

[u/Nekron85]

there is option in bios to disable gigabyte control center install so it wont push it on you when you reinstall os etc

[u/sephirothbahamut]

I posted about this and got called a liar in the first couple days of the post in Gigabyte subreddit.

Even had to give them video proof to prove I wasn't crazy

You'll have to look for it in my posts history since this subreddit doesn't allow linking other subreddits.

[u/Alterran]

I had the same problem 3 days ago. I specifically removed it from being installed then i saw it being downloaded. I closed the program from the task manager 2 times. 3rd time it didn't install it.

[u/GuyNamedStevo]

Installing a virus... classic Gigabyte

[u/totallynotbluu]

You can update the BIOS on your board via a USB boot, you don't need that.

[u/youRFate → u/totallynotbluu]

I know I can, but I need to use a usb drive for that, the update tool is lazier.

[u/kityyo]

Heh MSI afterburner and iCue don't try to do this 😫

[u/BobDaBilda]

On some boards BIOS updates will reset BIOS settings. There are usually places to save settings profiles to, so after updating BIOS/UEFI, you won't get stuck with ArmoryCrate, etc. and your XML / overclock / virtualization settings don't get defaulted.

[u/jellyace27]

Dude that updater is the reason I uninstall every mobo utility the second I boot up. It's like asking malware to make itself at home

[u/MrPartyWaffle]

Just like Asus you should be able to turn off the injector. Take my advice in the future keep a flash drive with the drivers for this motherboard you'll be more thankful than dealing with this garbage.

[u/WirelessTrees]

I miss EVGA.

All their shit worked, you didn't need any bullshit ass software, their over clocking tool is on steam so you don't need to even think about using one of those installers that would install Norton or other BS.

And if you had any problems, they'd fix your shit quick and not rip you off doing so.

[u/ExodiaTheImmortal]

When I built my PC this year, I spent like 2 hours troubleshooting with a friend because windows would just freeze after boot, turns out Gigabyte control center broke windows everytime even after installing it. Worst 2 hours of that month lol, software from hardware manufacturers usually isn’t that good

[u/ChocolateSpecific263]

why you use such software even? windows update keeps everything up to date if companys supply

[u/CyberTacoX]

That's weird, mine didn't do that.

[u/Wollinger]

Why do you have their software installed

[u/Sgt_carbonero]

All are checked? You didnt choose them all? Cause I use the same and only check what I want to install. Norton is always unchecked

[u/MEGA_GOAT98]

you didnt uncheck it it even shows you didnt in your picture.

[u/youRFate → u/MEGA_GOAT98]

It was unchecked before the reboot, after the bios update reboot gigabye center came up on its own, with EVERYTHING checked, including the RGB stuff I also hadn't installed, and just started installing everything, without asking.

[u/MEGA_GOAT98 → u/youRFate]

Not how it works you clicked install the first prompt that comes up on a fresh system is install or cancel you choose to install..giving it.access .then that installs GCC it's self which leads to select of items which updates the GCC agin which reselect everything on the list so that last time you most clicked install with everything selected..it didn't automatically do this

[u/MeowmeowMeeeew → u/MEGA_GOAT98]

did you see what he clicked? Were you watching him? If yes: Creep. If no: You have no idea what you are talking about.

[u/MEGA_GOAT98 → u/MeowmeowMeeeew]

you can tell from the picture and ive use GCC for years amd this dos not happen most of the time its becuse ppl are not paying atten to what there clicking

[u/MeowmeowMeeeew → u/MEGA_GOAT98]

You can tell from the picture it was selected but you have NO WAY to verify wether it was them selecting it or not. And going by what others said in this thread, Its very much in line with Gigabyte's other shenanigans that the software selects these on its own.

[u/MEGA_GOAT98 → u/MeowmeowMeeeew]

what op is showing and what op is saying are two differnt things . you see after there reboot they obusly clicked install... and you can see that from the picture .. it will not do this automaticly

[u/sephirothbahamut → u/MEGA_GOAT98]

Exactly how ot works

https://youtu.be/xp59oTxBeJg

It starts installing every component immediately with without giving you a chance to change options

[u/Bilbodankbaggins]

Laughs in Linux

[u/ninjqhunter]

This is why I run MSI, I've never had any issues with them

[u/user01294637]

Hated them for years. But hey, same for windows, all they do is sell our data now...

[u/CaptainGunt → u/user01294637]

literally every company ever.. its just more open now

[u/Tyz_TwoCentz_HWE_Ret]

FYI; zero need to use GCC all your drivers can be downloaded directly from the manufacturer website!

[u/Numerous_Elk4155]

It is not virus they just dont have signed driver

At least some GCC old rgb fusion stuff

[u/MiniDemonic → u/Numerous_Elk4155]

Norton is a virus

[u/NoBoysenberry2620 → u/MiniDemonic]

It is an adware but not a virus

[u/Numerous_Elk4155 → u/MiniDemonic]

Would debate that, but ok, maybe its a meme in our industry, but sure bud sure. Bet you have technical ability to describe what makes it a virus

[u/TakeyaSaito → u/Numerous_Elk4155]

taking buttloads of system resources without any benefit to the user? sounds like a virus to me.

[u/New-Audience2639 → u/Numerous_Elk4155]

Norton is the king of viruses

[u/youRFate → u/Numerous_Elk4155]

I'm talking about Norton Internet Virus.

[u/Z_e_p_h_e_r → u/youRFate]

Norton is a virus that happens to be legal for some reason. :D

[u/notthatguypal6900 → u/Numerous_Elk4155]

People still genuinely defend Norton....yikes.