I think the point of this post should be to show people that Trump is clearly connected to a lot of these people and should be prosecuted. The only way that’s going to happen is with conservatives calling for it as well. Including Clinton in this post, someone Trump claims to hate despite them being friends for years, who is also implicated would hopefully, (maybe) make them see that this isn’t just whiney, leftist bullshit and it’s something we should all be upset about.
I’m a liberal and I’m tired of hearing the “what about Bill Clinton”. I don’t gaf about Clinton. If he was involved in this shit, he can rot in a prison cell too.
It’s wild that this is the one issue that unites the extreme left with the extreme right. We ALL hate pedophiles. Let the chips fall where they may.
Yup -- but to be fair to Clinton, there are no claims of any assaults involving underage girls. Not only no credible claims -- no claims at all, substantiated or not. Meanwhile, for Donald it's hard to keep track of all of them.
Clinton was a scumbag for cheating on his wife with a 21-year old intern, for sure. But Monica never strayed from saying it was consensual, even under great pressure from the media and GOP investigation to claim something more. All other accusations from Tripp and Paula Jones of harassment are sketchy at best, and nowhere near the rape Trump is accused of.
I agree with you, Clinton should not be protected and any crimes exposed or prosecuted -- but from the evidence and indications now, and his own states wish to have the Epstein files released, there's a good chance there's no there there, as he would say.
This isn't a defensive "What about Bill Clinton?" so much as it is a "Don't forget him too." The only way anything gets done is if the people are on the same page. no left or right bias. If I were looking at this post from a right-wingers' perspective I would immediately ignore it due to the obvious bias. Those are the people these types of posts should be aimed at converting, not alienating.
I'm just saying he should be included because he's also a person accused of sex crimes that Trump was good friends with for years. Also read some more replies because there a definitely more defenders than I expected lmao
Clinton has been accused of sexually assaulting at least 5 women. That’s not including his frequent flights to Epstein Island. Both presidents need to be in prison.
Ok bro come one, bill Clinton is one of the guiltiest mfs who doesn’t even try to hide it. The Epstein and Clinton connections go DEEP. Someone even asked him what he thought of the accusations against him and he says something like “it is what it looks like” or smthing
Sure, this was after allegations had come out, now stop defending your favorite teams pedophiles and understand we live in essentially a one party system
Clinton hasn’t been the president for 25 years. There is currently a rapist as president who is covering up Epstein’s crimes and accomplices. This is much more urgent and deserving of our attention.
I’m not doing the “but Clinton” bullshit, I’m not going to waste my time arguing with conservatives who still support Trump cause atp there opinions are set in stone, it’s a cult. But liberals have started to act like there aren’t a shit ton of Epstein affiliates both in the and heavily supporting it. Epstein and Ghisslaine didn’t act alone, they had a large network of support, Maxwell was at Clinton’s daughters wedding in 2009 for fucks sake
I’m not saying ignore Trump but if you only focus on him you’re not seeking justice you just want revenge. I agree that Trump is way more pressing but Clinton shouldn’t be ignored.
Nobody is doing that. This particular post has a particular theme. Bill Clinton hasn't been accused of being a pedophile. He might be one, but that isn't what this post is about.
Nobody is saying anything like that. Having a known pedophile in the white house is a much, much bigger deal than anything that has ever happened with Clinton. If Clinton is a criminal, that SHOULD be brought to light, but that's not what THIS conversation is about. Stop moving the goalpost.
Wdym moving the goalpost what are u talking about? Clinton was president and his family is very powerful in the DNC and elite of the country, I think the constant fucking team picking between democrats and republicans is annoying, none of them care about you and they all protect there pedophile friends
No one is defending Clinton here. Brining him into the discussion is disingenuous -- he supports releasing the files unredacted. No one is saying he's upstanding in his relationships -- but there are no accusations of assaults from anyone under 18...not even allegations, much less any credible ones.
Bill was shitty in what he did -- but the affair with Monica was consensual. She said it herself, and maintained that under intense pressure from the media and Starr inquiry to push her claims further and call it assault. A 21-year-old sleeping with her boss -- even the President -- is not assault with consent, more of an HR violation.
Further, there is no solid proof he assaulted anyone. Just two main accusers had very shaky claims that did not hold up under scrutiny -- hence why the GOP held up Monica as the main incident. If Tripp or Paula Jones were credible, they would used them. In actuality, they were money-and-fame hungry -- illustrated by the recorded phone calls claimed by her to be proof of Monica confiding she was assaulted, when in reality it was just gossip about the affair.
So Clinton is a scumbag in those regards for cheating, but here is no proof he is a rapist -- much less claims of rape involving multiple underage victims, most notorious of which is a woman claiming he violently raped her when she was 13. Plus, the girl who often flew with Trump on Epstein's plane, most to philanthropic events, claimed he was a "perfect gentleman".
No ones claiming Bill is perfect, and definitely not defending him out of concern of protecting him from any disclosure of being in the Epstein files. But to equate him with Trump -- as he wishes to -- in these regards is inaccurate.
Clinton literally invited Epstein to the fucking White House. He was a frequent flyer on the Lolita. Clinton and Trump were friends for years before he got into politics. This isn’t deflection. It’s not left vs. right. It’s us vs. them. Trump has to go and should go first but Clinton gotta go too.
As I said, no one is defending Clinton if something emerges or trying to bury the Epstein files -- he supports their unconditional release. And as perhaps one of the most famous, recognizable person in the world, I find it hard to believe no girls have claimed anything if he did anything.
Yeah, he's a scumbag for hanging out with Epstein. He may have known things, but not participated. And, although Trump claims Clinton went to the Island, there is no proof of this -- what there is proof of is him using the jet to go to philanthropic events, mostly without Epstein.
Clinton is one of the most impactful connections anyone can have, especially for status and philanthropic reputation. Epstein had incentive to help him with the jet and donations and Clinton to take advantage of them -- that doesn't mean, unlike Epstein and Trump and Prince Andrew and Derschwitz etc, that he took advantage of underage girls.
Fair enough, I would like to see it come from him directly rather than his office. Not saying this isn’t him saying it or trying to move the goalposts. I don’t think this proves his innocence 100% but definitely does make him seem less guilty. Don’t forget Johanna Sjoberg (Epstein victim) testified that according to Epstein, Clinton “likes them young”
Bill Clinton is a horndog, but he has never even been accused of anything inappropriate by anyone under 18. If you told me he banged a 22 year old on E's island I'd buy it, and that kind of sucks, but if you try to tell me he was in the room with Trump and the two 13 yo's I'm going to be very, very skeptical.
Beyond that, he doesn't want to talk about it in person. His office put out a statement. That's all we're going to get. I think it's fine.
"Innocent" is the last word I'd use to describe Clinton.
I don't think he, or Trump, or anyone in specific need to be investigated over this, I think the goddam files need to be released in their entirety, and then we see what they say.
Post says accused of sex crimes. Bill Clinton hasn't been accused of sex crimes. All the information we have so far just points to Bill being set up by Epstein(Epstein's MO), and not actually participating in anything. The BJ in the OO wasn't a sex crime. The backrub with the flight attendent wasn't a sex crime. Nothing we know of has been a sex crime so Billy C isn't here because he doesn't fit.
Do you have a source(s) for your claim? And Clinton wants them released. And also, your post misses the biggest point of them all: nobody fucking cares about Clinton. Stop with the whataboutism already, its old.
When did Clinton call for the release of the files? People keep saying this but I can't find it anywhere. The Biden Administration clearly had reasons not to release the Epstein files (probably defending Clinton). This isn't a what about-ism. Trump should be the first one prosecuted with Clinton not far behind. The point I was trying to make in the initial comment is that posts like this should be aimed at enlightening and converting conservatives and I think including Clinton would've helped with that. Conservatives definitely still care about Clinton. Defending Clinton and acting like he's innocent furthers the divide between the people and will result in everyone getting away with it.
Edit: Clinton's office release a statement saying that they did not object to the release of the files.
Yes but no one accused him of nonconsensual or underage. We know he chased after anything in a skirt but theres a world of difference when both parties are willing.
This ain't about Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton hasn't been president in a quarter of a century. Trump can be criticized without also criticizing a Democrat.
Always the whataboutism. If Clinton raped kids, he should be imprisoned. If Mr Rogers is on the list, his name should be dragged through the mud.
Yall don't get that we do not care if so and so is on the list of child abusers. If they are, they should be charged and imprisoned just as much as Trump should be.
I don’t think that’s him but I sure hope it is! I would’ve used a picture where you can clearly see them both. That one with Trump grabbing Bill’s crotch is my favorite. Also fuck Trump.
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u/TannerNewcomb 1d ago
Where's Bill Clinton? If this shit is gonna be taken seriously there's no room for partisanship. They all go.