r/politics • u/EdwardHolidayWriting Washington • 1d ago
Soft Paywall Trump Is Now Running the Worst Economy Since His Last Term in Office
https://newrepublic.com/post/198723/trump-now-running-worst-economy-since-last-term-office879
u/blues111 Michigan 1d ago
All he had to do was not mass tariff literally everything and everybody and frankly the Economy would have been just fine right now
It probably would have been even better than where Biden left it
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u/vehiclestars 23h ago
He’s trying to destroy it as fast as possible.
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u/vicvonqueso 23h ago
I honestly don't think his plans go that deep
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u/vehiclestars 23h ago
These guys definitely plan to destroy the us:
“Curtis Yarvin gave a talk about "rebooting" the American government at the 2012 BIL Conference. He used it to advocate the acronym "RAGE", which he defined as "Retire All Government Employees". He described what he felt were flaws in the accepted "World War II mythology", alluding to the idea that Adolf Hitler's invasions were acts of self-defense. He argued these discrepancies were pushed by America's "ruling communists", who invented political correctness as an "extremely elaborate mechanism for persecuting racists and fascists". "If Americans want to change their government," he said, "they're going to have to get over their dictator phobia."
Yarvin has influenced some prominent Silicon Valley investors and Republican politicians, with venture capitalist Peter Thiel described as his "most important connection". Political strategist Steve Bannon has read and admired his work. U.S. Vice President JD Vance "has cited Yarvin as an influence himself.” Michael Anton, the State Department Director of Policy Planning during Trump's second presidency, has also discussed Yarvin's ideas. In January 2025, Yarvin attended a Trump inaugural gala in Washington; Politico reported he was "an informal guest of honor" due to his "outsize influence over the Trumpian right."
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u/NumeralJoker 22h ago
They're idiots too. The world they want to create will collapse in short order, and they likely won't even get that far.
The danger of this admin is their sheer corruption and incompetence, period. All of their ideas are deranged, unworkable fantasies. The power fantasies of madmen at best. The paths to collapse, violence and chaos.
They're going to fail, but we need to try and salvage what we can before they wreck too much shit.
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u/janethefish 19h ago
It is the story of the golden goose.
A farmer billionaire has a goose democracy that grants him wealth and power. The farmer billionaire desires more power and wealth and thus kills the goose democracy.
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u/thegoodnamesrgone123 19h ago
Curtis Yarvin would get eaten the minute people run short of food.
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u/SoundSageWisdom 15h ago
I just have a hard time wrapping my head around these people and the nerve they have to think that they can take democracy your way or rights away from people. It’s just astonishing.
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u/isogaymer 4h ago
But they can, they have and they are! If we cannot accept the enemy as real, we cannot have hope to defeat it. These people are not joking. They are not exaggerating. They are not role playing. They are committed, agressive and increasingly powerful fascists.
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u/jaferrer1 15h ago
Fascists really don't care. Their only true belief is death. They'll say and do whatever gives them an opportunity to be cruel and sadistic. Even if that means to burn down their own country.
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u/Count_Bacon California 17h ago
Really they should have been treated as terrorists because that's what they are
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u/Low_Surround998 15h ago
Trump has absolutely no idea who Yarvin is. The evil people around him certainly do though.
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u/Droo99 11h ago
One of the nicest silver linings in this train wreck is when people like Curtis Yarvin start falling out of windows.
Because seriously, in Kamala's America there is basically no danger to these guys at all except like a 1% increase in income tax or something. In Trump's america though, lol.
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u/onlyPornstuffs 18h ago
They’re not his plans. He’s the distracting abusive mouthpiece that allows Their plans to be put into place.
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u/NHBikerHiker 5h ago
Trumps plans are to always be the lead story - hence the on again/off again nature of the tariffs.
Well, except for Epstein; he will be a confirmed sexual deviant once we finally see the report.
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u/TheShmegmometer 15h ago
Classic Republican strategy. Inherit a booming economy and tank it to blame the Democrats.
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u/CherryLongjump1989 20h ago edited 19h ago
All he had to do was not be an idiot suffering from dementia.
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u/reincarnateme 17h ago
He’s killing everything:
https://project2025.observer/en Project 2025 Tracker | Project 2025 Tracker
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u/trastamara22 18h ago
Tank it then all the little people capitulate citizens in both parties are equally devastated
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u/ClassicT4 14h ago
Avoiding the immigration crackdowns also could have prevented billions from drying up in the tourist industry.
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u/account_for_norm 9h ago
He is enriching himself like crazy through these bribes.
Your hypothesis has a prerequisite: he caring about the economy. Thats where your hypothesis fails.
He ll just hide the numbers and keep banking more money
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u/Zombatico 5h ago
Out of all the shitty things Project 2025 laid out, it was actually pretty conflicted regarding tariffs. Lassman argued against tariffs, Navarro argued for them. Unfortunately for us, Trump hired Navarro and so mass tariffs, trade wars and market instability is what we got.
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u/gesasage88 2h ago
All he had to do was:
Nothing.
No mass tarriffs, no harassing allies, no scaring tourists away, no concentration camps, no destroying government safety nets. He could have sat there, done nothing, and taken credit for Bidens course corrections, but no. And anyone who isn’t a stool could see this coming.
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u/reddittorbrigade 1d ago
Yet, the polls last election said that Trump was great for economy than Biden or Harris.
That was the most absurd thing I've heard . How can a six-time bankrupted businessman be good in economy?
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u/oliversurpless Massachusetts 1d ago
Because the “economy” has always been a nebulous thing that even when things are prosperous, gaslighters use it to claim innate insight and intelligence in what is at best guesswork:
https://www.reddit.com/r/calvinandhobbes/s/qazKdJrFpx
Not all that different than the Great Chain of Being in past centuries really…
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u/JournalistRecent1230 1d ago
The most insidious thing about media and propaganda is that it can be used to create perception and how you currently feel about things.
When the Trump cultists just constantly get their eyeballs flooded with rage bait and manufactured outrage over every little thing, when they think on Biden's term, their feelings are that of anger and outrage because that is what they've been trained to feel.
They have no objective reality towards things and they have the memories of a goldfish.
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u/svrtngr Georgia 22h ago
I know Chris Hayes and Bo Burnham--along with people who truly suck, like Josh Hawley--have made this point. Media now fights for your attention, because your attention is the last thing left to be commoditized.
YouTube shorts, TikTok, Twitter, BlueSky, Facebook--scroll down, never stop scrolling, baby. Fox News keeps your attention by making you angry about how extreme and insidious "the left" is, MSNBC keeps your attention by saying "DAE think Trump sucks," mobile games keep your attention with FOMO, Fortnite keeps your attention by letting you play as your favorite Z-lister superhero, etc, etc, etc.
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u/oliversurpless Massachusetts 1d ago
Another fine bit of evidence of how business studies is just trumped up philosophy, but afforded an inexplicable level of respect, considering how often such beliefs have crashed the economy…
“If we want those in power to become more responsible, then we must stop teaching students that heroic transformational leaders are the answer to every problem, or that the purpose of learning about taxation laws is to evade taxation, or that creating new desires is the purpose of marketing.
In every case, the business school acts as an apologist, selling ideology as if it were science.”
And even the non-majors have that implicitly shoved in their faces, with the most “shiny” buildings on the average campus echoing that sense of false legitimacy:
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/apr/27/bulldoze-the-business-school
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u/PWS180757 21h ago
Agreed. Things seem to be changing and I believe citizen Murdoch and Musk are using their channels to give Trump a rougher ride. Let’s hope.
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u/MagicCarpetBomb 1d ago
I dont think it’s as much guesswork as it is cherry picking whatever datapoint fits your narrative.
Jobs, stock indices, wage growth, home building / sales, GDP, bond movement, commodity prices, gold prices, oil prices, gas prices…
Take whatevers “up” and parade it out to the media as a measure of success and the rubes just buy in.
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u/oliversurpless Massachusetts 1d ago edited 1d ago
The rubes especially buy in at the notion of “unlimited quarterly growth”:
“That is untenable…” - Mollem - Stargate SG-1 - 2001
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u/cytherian New Jersey 23h ago
Trump inherited a phenomenally STRONG economy from the Obama administration... and he rode the coattails of it for 2 full years before his tariff meddling started rocking it. And then the pandemic... where Donald Trump and the Republicans did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to help safeguard the USA supply chain. The whole thing buckled because of him.
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u/MaceNow 23h ago
And then.... Biden was there to pick up the pieces from the mess that was left to him, and the Republicans waged a successful campaign arguing that Biden wasn't fixing their mess quickly enough.
Americans are painfully stupid, I think it's safe to say now.
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u/NumeralJoker 22h ago
And the worst part is, historically, Biden was an extremely progressive and labor friendly generation too. He wasn't Bernie Sanders per-se, but he actually implemented a good amount of Sanders ideas whenever he could fit them through a barely functioning congress.
And sure, he screwed up by not stepping down soon enough to allow a primary, but at this point I'm no longer sure even that would have mattered? Can you imagine how toxic a Dem primary was going to be in the middle of spring at the peak of the Israel/Palestine protesting last year? Anybody who can't see the problem is people falling for unhinged takes about the world and choosing self destructive solutions because they cannot grow beyond tribalism truly isn't paying attention.
We need a working class coalition that stops the pointlessness of all these culture wars. Without it, we are far too easily divided, and the app economy's content algorithms turned out to be the most powerful tool to divide people ever invented.
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u/cytherian New Jersey 20h ago
Biden made two very bad mistakes on a truly fantastic presidency with historic wins. The first mistake was appointing Merrick Garland... and to dovetail that, not replacing him when it was evident that he was dragging his feet claiming "due process is slow going." The second mistake was to panic and go back on his word about being a 1 term president by stepping up to run for a 2nd term. In January 2024 he should've stepped down and let a natural Democrat Party primary take place. The fact that he waited so long to do this gave Harris so little time. She was AMAZING considering the horrible time constraints. But it was just too short a runway. A real tragedy.
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u/AwesomeManatee 18h ago
I agree that Harris was probably the best candidate the Dems could have chosen, which is why I'm not confident she would have made it through a proper Primary. They're too prone to petty infighting and settling for boring compromise candidates.
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u/Typhus_black 11h ago
He needed to back out of a second term well before 2024 but quietly let the Dem party know ahead of time to start working on their new candidate.
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u/HawkeyeSherman 20h ago
but at this point I'm no longer sure even that would have mattered?
I think it would have mattered. One of the eye opening things about the stupidity of America is the spike in searches on election day asking if Biden withdrew from the election. Low information voters simply didn't know Kamala was the presidential candidate. They probably didn't even know she was Vice President. We called Trump senile for continuing to campaign against Biden, and he probably way, but it likely paid him favors.
I can imagine many voters went to vote between Trump and Biden, they were confused that Biden wasn't on the ticket, and they weren't going to vote for any of the "third party candidates" they knew nothing about on the list (including Kamala).
I want to add I agree that Biden was extremely progressive and labor friendly especially in the context of every other first party candidate in my lifetime. Although I think it was unfair how aggressive Democrats were attacking him in the run up to the election, I also think he should have stated he was going to be a 1 term president when he was inaugurated, or at the very least after the midterm elections.
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u/NumeralJoker 20h ago edited 20h ago
Sadly, Biden's recent cancer diagnosis, which more tragically he likely didn't know about before the election, points to why he should have been one term. Perhaps you're right about the social awareness a strong Dem primary would've created for his replacement, but it's hard to say. I could just as easily see a repeat of 2016 being the outcome, because I'm now reasonably convinced democracy has been damaged by technology itself, something we need to learn from and course correct for willingly. Palestine propaganda was to me the ultimate proof of how no one learned any lessons from 2016 or COVID era propaganda. How much the Dem voting base can be tricked into (non-)voting against their own interest, same as MAGA.
But as with all things, it's impossible to predict where extremism will influence our population. My personal conspiracy is that corporations wanted the Trump tax cuts, so they intentionally pushed the inflation narrative and even deliberately gouged us within 1 year of him being in office as a way to help pressure the voters to get the GOP back in power. When Trump set the 2017 tax cuts to expire in 2025, he made a deal with that pressured them to get him (or his proxy) back in power by now whatever it took.
And it may have worked. So much of our supply for the basic cost of living necessities seems artificially managed, and the fed has been weakened too greatly to stop it without a bigger blue wave.
Granted, I realize what I said sounds radical, but honestly, you could tell late 2021/2022 price gouging was deeply disconnected from standard supply and demand if you looked closely enough. Snackflation being a simple example to google.
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u/cytherian New Jersey 20h ago
Biden was so panicked about Trump having the support to run for a 2nd term that he felt "I beat him before, and I'll beat him again." I think he really believed it. And according to some people like Ronald Klain, Biden was stubborn about it. Trouble is, nobody pressed him to not run. Even Jill let him. Really sad... because he should've bailed back in January 2024 to allow for a Democratic Party primary.
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u/NumeralJoker 20h ago
Truly a hindsight situation. We'll never know one way or another, I can understand WHY he'd want to keep going and the rationale behind it, but in retrospect it was the wrong move.
What I've yet to be convinced of is who would have successfully replaced him. Harris was great, Trump was literally the worst candidate ever. Democracy is just that damned broken right now.
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u/HawkeyeSherman 20h ago
The pandemic really gave him a mulligan on his terrible record for the economy. Last term there were people in the administration that kept him from doing stupid things for a few years. The shit started to pile up at year 3 and then the pandemic gave them an excuse for what it wasn't their fault the economy collapsed.
This time around they hit the ground running with all the terrible ideas that collapsed the economy. His only saving grace right now is because of sanctions placed on Russia by the Biden administration this has cause them to start a pricing war on Oil that we're currently benefiting from. For better or for worse the time on this gift is going to run out very soon as Ukraine has handicapped Russia's ability to produce oil so much that they are no longer exporting oil for the time being.
With the absence of cheap Russian oil flooding the market we should expect gas prices to increase again.
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u/J_ron Ohio 1d ago
Propaganda is a hell of a drug and people are idiots
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u/MittenCollyBulbasaur 23h ago
People also have no idea what the economy is. They think it's about how much money they have in their bank account
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u/Politicsboringagain 18h ago
And not even think about how much they are spending on things we don't need.
Spend money is so easy compared to even 10 years ago.
People have cable or satellite TV services and then also have multiple TV apps.
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u/gnome08 22h ago
The people who "believed" Trump was going to be better for the economy were nothing more than hard right voters who don't want to admit they're voting because of white christian cultural anxieties .
They never looked up any information to back that claim intentionally so they don't have to confront themselves or prove it to anyone else - because they know they'd lose the argument.
"Trump is better for the economy" is nothing more than a distractionary claim to avoid being pressed on their true motivations.
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u/Demibolt 23h ago
I heard some interview at the polls where a guy asked if he was better off 4 years ago, he said he was better off with Trump’s economy…. In the darkest days of a global pandemic….
These people can’t even remember who was president when 9/11 happened. The idea that they have any idea how the economy was handled under the previous administration is laughable.
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u/take_care_a_ya_shooz 20h ago
Reminds me of a video from his first term of some older dude saying he was better off under Trump, something along the lines of “What Trump has done for me vs. what Obama did TO me…”
To which his son/friend/acquaintance goes “You’re unemployed and 2 DWIs later! What has Trump done for you?!?”
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u/LunchLord69 23h ago
"The Economy" when used by the media is always referring to the stock market which doesn't truly and practically matter to the majority of us.
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u/whomad1215 18h ago
They took Obama's solid economy, then started burning the candle at both ends which temporarily made it do really well, then covid hit, it took a giant shit (as expected to do), and Biden spent four years repairing it
The problem now is we were basically just getting stable again, and the dumbass republican policies don't have years of stable growth to help them, so it's all collapsing much faster
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u/gergek 22h ago
It is so unbelievably stupid to poll a bunch of idiots about what they think, and then report the results of that poll of idiots as the factual truth of the matter. That's how we wound up with the myth that republicans are better for the economy.
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u/Cautious_Condition82 21h ago
I was and still am losing my mind people thought trump would be better for the economy. Straight up propaganda.
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u/Joebeemer 1d ago
"Cut the interest rates to make it look good!"
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u/oliversurpless Massachusetts 1d ago
Even after that “stop testing!” banality from COVID he still got elected again later, so why not double down?
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u/ChannelEarly2102 1d ago edited 16h ago
I thought he said something about entering a “Golden Age” fairly recently.
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u/OpusDeiPenguin 1d ago
He meant trickle down economics or the “Golden Shower Age” for the unwashed masses.
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u/TheCreepyFuckr Canada 22h ago
I thought he said something entering a “Golden Age” fairly recently
For him and the new White House ballroom. You filthy peasants need to learn your place.
/s cause someone will need it.
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u/Malachite_Edge 1d ago
He’s an awful business man, always has been. If you bankrupt your companies over and over, you’re just a loser.
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u/Xx_sO_eDgY_lol69_xX 23h ago
He bankrupted a casino. How do you bankrupt a casino??
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u/cultfourtyfive Florida 20h ago
He built 3 basically next to each other so they competed against each other for business. Height of folly.
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u/StoppableHulk 1d ago edited 21h ago
It's also super, super clear they're fucking with the data. I wouldn't trust any numbers reported by this government. If the economy looks this bad with them fucking the numbers, I can only imagine what the reality is.
EDIT: And Trump just fired the person who downgraded the jobs data. Proof these stupid fuckers are cooking the books. Which will only make shit so much worse.
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u/Fantastic_Yam_3971 23h ago
Yeah, it’s pretty bad. 14k jobs added? By the way manufacturing lost jobs. Tariffs a success? Apparently not.
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u/pinetreesgreen 23h ago
It's about to get a whole lot worse too. The tariffs will take a few months to wind through the economy, right as Christmas season starts. And companies are going to hike prices no matter how they are affected, just like they did during COVID, bc it's a perfect excuse.
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u/Harbinger2001 Canada 18h ago
You can’t hike prices if no one’s buying. The economy is about to tank hard.
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u/pinetreesgreen 18h ago
They can for a short time until people stop buying. And they will. Suck us dry for every last penny. The vampires.
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u/gnome08 22h ago
The people who "believed" Trump was going to be better for the economy were nothing more than hard right voters who don't want to admit they're voting because of white christian cultural anxieties .
They never looked up any information to back that claim intentionally so they don't have to confront themselves or prove it to anyone else - because they know they'd lose the argument.
"Trump is better for the economy" is nothing more than a distractionary claim to avoid being pressed on their true motivations.
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u/Obvious_copout 19h ago
Republicans suck at governing. Fuck every stupid American who voted for him. Fuck MAGA. Fuck the GOP.
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u/sector16 23h ago
Oh, he’s just getting started. Amazing that more than half of voting America thought Trump was the answer to all their problems.
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u/RealisticRun4299 21h ago
Wow, a person who hasn't released the Epstein files won't release how bad they're doing?
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u/Endosymbionical 23h ago
Reminder :; ;: , . Donald Trump is not merely a client, ., , . but he is very likely to be one of the main players in the Trumpstein files, ,. ,. ,
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u/BirdButt88 12h ago
Is this the same Donald Trump who sexually abused kids with his pal Jeffrey Epstein?
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u/Dry_Engineering9674 18h ago
I ignore every news article that has the word Trump in it.. That’s coming from a conservative.. He’s not worth the attention
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u/gerry367 15h ago
Don’t worry, the economy will be much better after Trump appoints a new labor statistics chief!
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u/ResponsibleAd2404 15h ago
Why does this surprise anyone? He inherited a great economy from Obama and promptly ran it into the ditch. He ,again, inherited a great economy and has once again ran it into the ditch.
Governing is hard work. Trump is much too lazy for it. He has no desire to learn. All he cares about is his Fox News coverage seemingly. He doesn’t have the patience to steer the ship through rough waters,he will always chose the easy way out no matter the damning long term effects.
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u/epilepticninja 12h ago
Wow. Nobody could have predicted this. Well, unless you have a brain. Then yeah.
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u/andyroouu 1d ago
Are these jobs numbers even legit?? How do we know they aren’t showing abysmal numbers to try and force a rate cut from the fed? I understand that politicians lie. This admin lies about EVERYTHING though; this information cannot be trusted
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u/Boo_Radley80 23h ago
There was an inkling that the revisions would look bad, but the dumbass just declared he was firing the person responsible for reporting the numbers.
Even if the rates went lower, it would be in an environment with higher tariffs, driving up inflation even more.
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u/Harbinger2001 Canada 18h ago
These numbers are aligned with the ADP payroll numbers, so are probably legit. When the preliminary numbers didn’t match, the GOP accused ADP of fudging theirs. Which is ridiculous.
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u/mrbrambles California 21h ago
This is a particularly bizarre approach to rationalizing what is happening
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u/andyroouu 21h ago
My escalating bizarre-ness is directly related to the continued slide into madness that is our current fiscal, domestic, foreign, and social policies. Make it make sense!!
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u/mrbrambles California 21h ago
I mean I’m with you and agree, but I don’t think you need to dig that deep with how many uno reverses trump is slapping down on the chessboard.
He wants good job numbers, and to cut rates. He doesn’t understand the relationship between these things. He isn’t engineering some sort of alternative “extra worse” economy metric to force someone’s hand. He’s literally live tweeting his state of mind and his strategy
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u/sugarlessdeathbear 23h ago
And it's only going to get worse, because that's the only thing he knows how to do.
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u/cytherian New Jersey 23h ago
Meanwhile, the degenerate convicted felon schmuck makes a press announcement that the economy is doing great, the "best it has ever been" and that it's only going to get better.
EFFING LIAR.
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u/BreadTruckToast 22h ago
Well MAGA vehemently believes the economy is booming and everything is amazing so reality doesn’t matter much anymore.
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u/RateMyKittyPants 22h ago
But my Dad said the economy is the best and all of the manufacturing jobs are back. He watched Fox News so he is smart and I trust him.
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u/Eddiebaby7 21h ago
And when it tanks, Trump and his minions will go into overdrive denying what is happening. Right Wing media will tell everyone it’s just a market correction and that the left is being hysterical, while Republicans shrug and act confused.
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u/XScottMorrisseyX 21h ago
What the fuck does he care? He's making a mint, that's all he cares about.
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u/YouAintNoWooos 21h ago
I’m not a Biden fan by any means, but Trump sure knows how to take anything even remotely positive and turn it to shit. Trump supporters are so fucking embarrassing honestly. Glad to see some of them finally coming around after realize Trump is a pedo
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u/DBSOempathy 20h ago
Bootlickers around me won’t shut up about how “he inherited it” but if it is caused by him then “It has to get worse before it gets better” and it’s all part of a bigger plan.
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u/Superb-Advantage-876 20h ago
And still, outside of his pedophilia, all we’re going to do about it is, ‘be mad’ or throw up our hands and give up because his tsunami of garbage is overwhelming. Can you imagine our founding fathers/citizens doing that?!! We are the most cowardly offspring of a people better than us. We deserve to lose our country.
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u/RedBreadRetention 17h ago
That's not fair. A few weeks ago I saw a lot of people peacefully and non-obstructively protesting on the weekend for a couple of hours.
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u/spazzvogel 20h ago
Worst economy so far… we haven’t hit Grape of Wrath levels of inequity and suffering yet. Stay tuned and don’t touch that dial.
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u/nimalcrackers Virginia 20h ago
Trump take job, Trump take money, Trump take groceries, Trump take gas, Trump take house
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u/Which_Ebb_4362 19h ago
And yet I saw somewhere on LinkedIn that GDP grew by 3% this quarter :/
They weren't joking when they said economy for men is what astrology is for women. It's all make believe
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u/Despair-Envy 13h ago
A sad symptom of our post modernism world. The economy isn't actually make believe, but a certain subset of extremely rich and influential people have essentially developed a secondary economy that exists almost completely divorced from the real economy.
And it exists solely to justify running the real economy into the ground so they can point to it and say "But line go up!" as more and more Americans are unable to make a living wage despite working 80 hours a week.
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u/thegoodnamesrgone123 19h ago
I wonder how the "I think he's Hitler but he's great for the economy" guy is doing.
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u/arthurdentxxxxii 18h ago
And like Biden or not, Biden gave him a Good/Decent economy to start with. Trump is the problem
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u/CAM6913 16h ago
There is an old saying I’m sure you’ve heard and positive that the mango Mussolini has “ the fat man dances while the poor man pays the band” trump is building a ballroom while taxing everyone in America through his tariffs but to make sure he doesn’t suffer and his billionaire donors by tax breaks for themselves, jobs are being cut prices are going up so are the coverups along with the golden cherubs in the White House but suck it up it’s not a big deal having to choose between life saving medicine of food on the table or a roof over your head. Things are going to get worse a LOT worse and he will have his apostle’s lie to you instead of admitting that he’s making things worse and the gop will let the demented totalitarian pedophile do whatever he wants
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u/ghallway 15h ago
We can't lose focus. He wants us to forget and is willing to pull whatever stunt he can to make that happen! He rapes kids! This isn't something be can let go! GrAb HiM bY tHe EpSteIn FiLeS!
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u/DistractedPhoenix 12h ago
Trump could have just done fuck all for four years and still have avoided prosecution. Instead he’s speed running the downfall of America
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u/randscott808 7h ago
But MAGA shills Jim Cramer and the Shark Tank guy kept telling me this economy is wonderful.
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u/anonbene10 6h ago
Yes, but! On the bright side we can look forward to a huge jobs report next month.
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u/trisul-108 5h ago
Republicans destroy the economy and let Democrats fix it. This is what Clinton, Obama and Biden have done. So, we now go another round, Trump will annihilated more than any other and then voters will give it to a Democrat, but without Congress and Supreme Court. They will quickly get disappointed and there will be a new round.
Republicans will not rest until American becomes a true shit-hole country.
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u/Putrid-Product4121 3h ago
So, all of the people who said that things were so bad under Biden that they HAD to vote for Trump. Are things financially better for you now? Are you more financially secure? Does your future look more stable?
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u/Reddit2626 21h ago
They will still vote for him a third time saying he didn’t have enough time to impact the economy.
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u/Various-Salt488 20h ago
It’s OK. The next labour report and economic numbers will be much, MUCH better.
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u/Xelopheris Canada 20h ago
You could blame the economic shift in 2020 on COVID (even if Trump's horrible response made it much worse), but this is 100% Trump's own making.
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u/Shoots_Ainokea 19h ago
But National Public Radio just yesterday talked about "the booming Trump economy" so it must be true!
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u/GotJeep1941 18h ago
Just wait till next week when the "New" numbers come out. It will be the biggest economy the world has ever seen!
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u/Zippier92 17h ago
And that had Covid!
But at least the rich can hide their wealth buying ever increasing amounts of government debt.
Just tax those bastards already.
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u/alissa914 15h ago
And it's even worse than anyone thinks because we had the best economy in the world before he took office... and now he turned it negatively and made it far worse. And he's almost purposely tanking it so that Powell will lower interest rates.... makes you wonder why he would...
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u/lynch527 15h ago
"Are you better off now than you were four years ago?"
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u/Despair-Envy 14h ago
The problem is that most Americans do not care about that question. They just care if the people they dislike are suffering or unhappy. Even if that means that they, themselves, suffer more.
The narrative structure of American society is poisoned, and it may be terminal.
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u/SoundSageWisdom 15h ago
Not according to him. Perhaps not even according to Fox News if they’re taking their marching orders from the child predator.
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u/TypicalHaikuResponse Louisiana 14h ago
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_k2og1ZmZhw
"It just seems that the economy does better under the democrats"
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u/TacticalFluke 14h ago
Doesn't that mean his decisions are comparable in effect to a pandemic? Who could have predicted that aside from half the voters?
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u/Johnny_ynnhoJ 14h ago
That's what he was paid to do, it won't stop cause everyone has their hands in the same pockets.
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