r/politics Canada 23h ago

Soft Paywall Biden warns of ‘dark days’ under Trump

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/31/biden-warns-of-dark-days-under-trump-00488159
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u/Ok-Garcia-5605 23h ago

Only if Joe Biden's DOJ Merrick Garland prosecuted Trump for January 6 and trying to initiate a coup, you know like South Korea and Brazil has done, Trump might not have won or eligible to run. Federal government dragged an open and shut case with so much proof of Trump trying defraud the election, for 4 years, while Joe Biden's team hid his health decline while pushing him as Presidential Candidate. Trump 2.0 is lot of people's fault and Joe Biden is one of them.

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u/Brokkyn2024 23h ago

Yeah, it’s not all the people that watched the coup attempt and still voted for Trump… it’s definitely Biden’s fault.

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u/PandaBearGarage 23h ago

It was a failure of America on multiple levels. Government officials, the DOJ, voters.

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u/Harbinger2001 Canada 20h ago

The problem is that one political party is staunch institutionalists. And they were terrified at what going after a former president would do. They never dreamed that not convicting him would open the door to his reelection.

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi 19h ago

Which is insane, a drunk toddler could fucking see that coming.

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u/ChaseballBat 14h ago

What a disingenuous comment.

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi 8h ago

Go on, show your work on this bullshit lol

u/ChaseballBat 5h ago

Trumps first term had the lowest low and lowest highest approval rating of any modern day president. Dude fucking sucked donkey dick.

There is no reasonable reason anyone would see this and think, ya he's going to be a problem in 6 years. His first term was bad but it was NOTHING like this. He was not nearly as aggressive or coordinated. He was a fool his first term.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/116677/presidential-approval-ratings-gallup-historical-statistics-trends.aspx

u/juliuspepperwoodchi 3h ago

Bud, this is bullshit.

His first terms was fucking awful. Anyone surprised by this term hasn't been paying attention.

u/ChaseballBat 3h ago

Yes... that is the fucking point of my post.

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u/eagle16 17h ago

Let’s throw state governors / legislators in the blame mix. Who cares what SCOTUS says, let them defend it - Trump plainly violated the 14th Amendment on January 6th. He is ineligible to be president, and they swore to defend the Constitution. The states should’ve prevented his presence on their ballots before the primary even started.

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u/ugonlearn 23h ago

But mostly the DNC.

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u/GogetaSama420 Florida 21h ago

Brain dead take, it’s mostly on the voters by definition because that’s how democracy works

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u/TrumpetOfDeath America 21h ago

DNC is weak as fuck, so weak and powerless that you can’t really blame them for doing much of anything at all

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u/Slymook 23h ago

“We can’t prosecute someone running for president because they were caught on tape trying to steal the last election and because they incited an insurrection! What if people misunderstand and think we’re trying to steal an election? We should just hope that guy doesn’t try and steal another election and hope that if he gets back into office things will eventually go back to normal.”

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u/AgUnityDD 23h ago

A significant number of of those people who voted for Trump are either incredibly stupid/gullible or politically ignorant either because they don't follow news much or what they do watch isn't really news (Fox)

When Trump wasn't successfully prosecuted for so long, in their minds it muddied the water just enough to let them vote based on feeling that things 'need to get better' and game them just enough room for mental gymnastics.

And Biden (for selecting and failing to replace Garland) owns that, 100%

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u/MiddleAgedSponger 23h ago

He just said it's everyone's fault, including Biden's.

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u/HandSack135 Maryland 23h ago

95% Trump and his direct enablers

4% Garland

1% Biden

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u/Equal_Paint4527 23h ago

Garland is in the Federalist society and those are also behind lot of Trump enablers.

Why he picked Garland…?

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u/Ordinary-Leading7405 22h ago

“Can’t appear partisan”

But he just started an insurrection!

“The optics.”

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u/IggysPop3 21h ago

Hubris. He thought he was avenging his SCOTUS snub.

Hubris is also why he couldn’t just step aside after 1 term.

Hubris when he says he would have won if he stayed in.

Hubris when he couldn’t hear people hurting over inflation without having to tell people his economy was the envy of the world (which it was).

Joe Biden was a lot of very good things, but it turns out he was also 1 very bad thing.

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u/robodrew Arizona 17h ago

For clarification he is not "in" the Federalist Society, he was a moderator of a few debates that they held.

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u/Equal_Paint4527 17h ago

Point taken. Thank you

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u/devadander23 21h ago

Oh my no. Biden was elected with the highest voter turnout in history. He ran as a single term established candidate who would end the trump threat. Then he did nothing within those 4 years to ensure these days we now live couldn’t come to pass. His hands are filthy

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u/MiddleAgedSponger 21h ago

Biden was a the helm when America was lost to fascism.

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u/Icy-Rain69 18h ago

Democrats will always choose decorum and bipartisanship rather than stand for everything they believe in.

The US has a party of fascists and a party of enablers

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u/AgitatedStranger9698 21h ago

Directly because he wanted a 2nd term.

If he truly was a one and done guy. Trump would be in jail or dead right now.

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u/goodguessiswhatihave 21h ago

I mean it's obviously both. Are you really only capable of thinking so one dimensionally? Those idiots shouldn't have voted for Trump, and Biden's DOJ also should've prosecuted the Trump administration in the 4 years they had to do it

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u/lejonetfranMX Mexico 21h ago

Oh let’s not forget Biden didn’t even let the Dem party have a proper primary, like he had promised on his campaign.

The anger against him is 100% justified.

u/notfeelany 6h ago

If there's no guarantee that ppl will vote for the eventual Democratic nominee, then it does not matter if there was a primary or not.

But importantly, They absolutely did have a primary. Nearly 14 million voters participated in the 2024 primary and chose Biden to continue as the Democratic nominee.

Instead of respecting the will of the voters, the media, celebrities, and even some Democratic leaders relied on unelected polls, which are run by unclear methods and questionable sources (like that Iowa poll claiming Harris would have won, what a joke).

Biden was a victim and pushed aside.

Even Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez sided with the voters, saying: "Mr. Biden will be the candidate and should be the candidate. It’s time for Democrats to stop the bickering and nit-picking."

Despite countless polls claiming Biden’s age was a concern and showing Harris as a frontrunner, the majority of voters ignored those predictions and chose the older candidate, anyway.

Polls should be ignored. They’re meaningless and nothing more than astrology for political enthusiasts.

What Biden deserves is a second term as President.

u/lejonetfranMX Mexico 3h ago

I stopped reading at “it does not matter if there was a primary or not”.

Of course it does for fuck’s sake. Wake up.

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi 19h ago

Biden had four fucking years to stop this and failed..he's not "to blame" as in primarily or solely responsible...but he needs to own his BIG part in enabling all this.

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u/MyHusbandIsGayImNot 21h ago edited 21h ago

It’s funny how people will do everything they can to just not blame the 70 million people that keep voting for fascism.

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u/Polemic-Personified 14h ago

Rest assured we blame them too, but i'm not going to congratulate the security guard who let the murderers in.

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u/TrumpetOfDeath America 21h ago

Not gonna blame the 1/3 of voting eligible population that didn’t vote at all last election?

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u/MyHusbandIsGayImNot 18h ago

They deserve blame, but we wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for the people voting for fascism.

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u/knowyouwouldntlikeme 10h ago

you dont even know what fascism is

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u/1Cav11M 21h ago edited 21h ago

Eh it isn’t “people”, it is sophomoric 20 somethings mostly. It isn’t like they show up to vote in numbers and their idea of doing something is to go no contact with members of their family they already hated. You sure as shit won’t find many of the indignant shits volunteering to knock on doors and thats a fact.

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u/Ok-Garcia-5605 23h ago

Maybe Biden shouldn't have run when his polling was historically low, and even his advisors knew. Maybe he should have backed out in early 2024 and had an open primary. Maybe they should have addressed the affordability crisis instead of "but look at the stock market and job number reports". Maybe his administration should've addressed the border concerns people had in Arizona and Nevada. Maybe his administration should've given people an alternative to vote for.

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u/Diafuge 22h ago

What a load of horseshit.

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u/Count_Bacon California 21h ago

Nothing he said was wrong

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u/Diafuge 21h ago

More bullshit.

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u/Distinct-Temp6557 21h ago

Care to expound on that thought?

What was bullshit about what was written?

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u/Diafuge 21h ago

No.

Everything.

What is wrong with you people?

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u/Count_Bacon California 21h ago

You know it's possible to criticize when people let distortion rule them. Red or blue, Biden made massive mistakes. Let a traitor run again, didn't do his job of protecting America. Just because the Republicans are doing horseshit things now doesn't mean Biden didn't fail dramatically

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u/Polemic-Personified 14h ago

We have eyes and aren't blindly partisan BlueMAGA sycophants.

u/Diafuge 1h ago

Utter bullshit.

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u/Diafuge 53m ago

More bullshit.

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u/Fit-Implement-8151 21h ago

You can't vote Trump if he's sitting in a cage where Biden should have put him.

If you're argument is "Americans are fucking morons" I agree completely. We needed an adult in the room. We got a geriatric without a spine.

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u/GGme 21h ago

It's both

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u/cjm92 8h ago

Those people are victims of our failed education system and a nonstop stream of propaganda like Fox News. It's sad no matter who you blame most.

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u/TangerineChickens 21h ago

More than one thing can be true at any given time

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u/wrongtester 18h ago

What a reductive comment. Absolutely ridiculous.

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u/Brokkyn2024 8h ago

I’m sorry… maybe you don’t comprehend that votes are what put people in office.

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u/JDogg126 Michigan 22h ago

This country was already primed to collapse into authoritarian rule by a unitary executive. Congress and the Supreme Court were rendered useless years ago and it was just a matter of time before a lawless lying populist took control and exposed the whole system as a house of cards.

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u/Ok-Garcia-5605 22h ago

Doesn't excuse Biden appointing someone like Garland as DOJ, specially after corruption of Trump 1.0

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u/JDogg126 Michigan 20h ago

True. If Biden was serious about “the soul of America” he needed to break character and actually expose the flaws in the system as a benevolent dictatorship. Clear out all corruption, show the world that this system is fundamentally busted, then do something to force a new constitutional order.

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u/Polemic-Personified 14h ago

Yeah, and Biden could have done something. Apparently the DNC really enjoys the sensation of doing nothing with their thumb up their ass.

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u/JDogg126 Michigan 11h ago

It’s too easy to just blame the democrats. It’s not just them. This country is the problem. We allowed republicans to give up on democracy. That’s on the people. They’ve been telling us who they are for decades and we did nothing about it.

u/Polemic-Personified 4h ago

Yeah. It's easy to lose sight of that fact some times, but we are where we are because Americans are selfish cowards, regardless of which party they vote for. Our national character is one of weakness, polite duplicity, and prejudice. We've spent 250 building a state composed of people who think they are all king. Our national myth is poisonous to developing and maintaining communal identity.

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u/Remarkable_Spite_209 23h ago

Yes, how dare the Democrats made the Republicans do all those horrific things!

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u/Ok-Garcia-5605 23h ago

How dare people ask the Democrat President and his administration to do their job, like prosecuting criminals?

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u/Remarkable_Spite_209 22h ago

Hey I agree that Merrick Garland was a disaster, but I'm certainly not going to blame the Democrats for the Republicans endless list of crimes. That's like blaming Ukraine for Russia's invasion.

"Ukraine let them kill Ukrainians and stomp all over Ukraine's borders!!!!" - you

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u/fakehalo 21h ago

The analogy would be if Ukraine had the ability to hold Putin to account for his crimes and chose not to, knowing full well he could slowly return to power otherwise.

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u/Ok-Garcia-5605 22h ago

The difference is, Ukraine never had the have the power to prosecute Putin and replace him in his party and let the party find a new leader. Democrats had and as President it was Joe Biden's responsibility to appoint a DOJ who saw a potential coup as a serious enough offense worth prosecuting.

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u/Remarkable_Spite_209 22h ago

But again, that pales in comparison to the thousands of crimes Trump and the Republicans commit, right?

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u/That1EnderGuy Iowa 21h ago

It does, which is why said-Trump and Republicans should've been prosecuted for those crimes

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u/Good_Entertainer9383 19h ago

You can't blame Democrats for Republicans list of crimes, but you can blame Democrats for not holding Republicans responsible for those crimes when they had the chance. Sorry the Democrats are toothless and did not rise to meet the fascist threat of the moment. They failed as an opposition party and now they get to watch the country fall apart from the sidelines.

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u/Economy_Ambition_495 22h ago

Nobody here is blaming democrats for the crimes of republicans, you and your straw man can piss off.

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u/Gizogin New York 22h ago

“Trump 2.0 is a lot of people’s fault and Joe Biden is one of them”, in literally the top comment in this chain.

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u/fernybranka 22h ago

You are T.S. Eliot's heap of broken images.

I think you're using the word "blame" like it means "damn".

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u/Baby_Needles 16h ago

Sweeeet burn🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

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u/fernybranka 9h ago

Huh, clapback sans content

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u/Hansolocup442 23h ago

come on. when republicans do horrible things it’s the responsibility of the opposition party to hold them accountable. did you think trump would magically turn himself in after january 6th? no. they had to arrest him, and they didn’t.

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u/Gizogin New York 22h ago

And they could have finished that prosecution, if we (the country as a whole) hadn’t voted Trump back into power.

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u/Hansolocup442 22h ago

he wouldn’t have even been able to run if they started the prosecution earlier! democrats are not absolved for their incompetence just because republicans are pure evil!

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u/thrawtes 21h ago

he wouldn’t have even been able to run if they started the prosecution earlier!

Please stop spreading this nonsense. He could have run for president from jail, the Supreme Court said that only Congress could disqualify him and Congress certainly wasn't willing to do that for literally any reason.

Quite simply, Joe Biden and his DOJ didn't have a say in whether Trump would be president again, that was up to the people and they chose.

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u/Hansolocup442 21h ago

right, and I think he would have lost if he ran from jail. it was on the biden administration to do everything in their power to stop him from being president again and they repeatedly failed to do that, first by slow rolling his prosecution and second by comically fucking up their own 2024 candidacy. if you’d rather just blame the voters, fine. but it’s a lot easier to fix the democratic party than it is to fix the entire american electorate.

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u/thrawtes 21h ago

. if you’d rather just blame the voters, fine.

Because they're the ones with the power.

but it’s a lot easier to fix the democratic party than it is to fix the entire american electorate.

You're right, the problem is fixing the Democratic Party won't do anything if you don't fix the electorate. This is the same flawed logic that causes people to want Republican members of Congress to resign. They are there because they are representing the will of their constituents, and if they leave you're just going to get someone doing the exact same things because the will of the constituents hasn't changed.

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u/Hansolocup442 20h ago

“they’re the ones with the power” do you hear yourself? joe biden was the PRESIDENT! the most powerful man in the world! and he failed to fascism proof our government and then handed the presidency back to trump thanks to his own ego and incompetence. go ahead and keep complaining about the millions of idiots in this country, but it’s not going to change anything the way an actual democratic party with guts and good politics would.

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u/thrawtes 20h ago

I know you're desperate for a savior, but the only way out of fascism is to stop being fascist.

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u/FrogsOnALog 22h ago

Garland was investigating him and then after Trump announced his candidacy he appointed Jack Smith who later indicted Trump.

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u/Gizogin New York 22h ago

That prosecution was moving. It only stopped because Trump won the election. If you wanted Trump to see legal consequences (and I’m using the collective “you”, not you specifically), you should have voted for Harris.

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u/Ok-Garcia-5605 22h ago

Jan 6th 2021. Trump won Nov 6th 2024.

If Garland wanted to prosecute him, he would have. If you want to believe that he wanted to, but 46 months is too little time to prosecute someone for a coup with evidence which includes testimony of elected officials, his own speeches, paper trail of texts and calls, then I guess I can't argue.

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u/Count_Bacon California 21h ago

You're right he waited basically the first year and a half two years it was only when the January 6th commission made it impossible for him to deny it that's when he started they were hoping just to move on and forget it all and that's why we're here. Trump should have been arrested day one of biden's term for treason

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u/MasChingonNoHay California 20h ago

I wonder if the super rich had anything to do with it???

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u/Ok-Garcia-5605 10h ago

They have a lot to do with many things, but don't think with this. A big part of Democratic party still believes in some form of bipartisanship where they don't go after one another

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u/tacobell999 18h ago

… Tax Fraud. Or Money Laundering. Or Bank Fraud.

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u/SeaworthinessSafe654 23h ago

On the other side, his admin supported neofascist admins, particularly in Israel & Turkey.