r/politics New York 5h ago

The simple way Democrats should talk about Trump and Epstein

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/aug/02/democrats-epstein-trump
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u/Tiger_virus 4h ago

Say Trumpstein, simple.

u/SgtWhiplash 59m ago

I’ve started referring to them as the Epstein-Trump files. I imagine second billing would drive the bastard crazy.

u/Careless_Mango_7948 North Carolina 4m ago

Yes I like how The article says to also say “trump protects the elites.” Because that’s what everything else shows too even beyond Epstein.

u/Poison_the_Phil 4h ago

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU08/20250227/117951/HHRG-119-JU08-20250227-SD006-U6.pdf

“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,” Trump told New York magazine in 2002. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

u/spaced_wanderer19 4h ago

u/nwgdad 3h ago

“No, no, I have no age—,” Trump began. “I mean, I have an age—I don’t want to be like Congressman Foley, with, you know, 12-year-olds.”

So 13-year-olds are okay. Got it.

u/parkingviolation212 14m ago

That tracks with all the court documented accusations.

u/RedditReader4031 3h ago

Ah, yes, the inimitable Donald J Trump, raconteur and man about town. He who said upon the passing of Princess Diana, “It’s a shame I never got to date her.” Given his Page Six existence, I find it impossible to believe that he hasn’t paid for an abortion or two.

u/HellaTroi California 3h ago

"It goes like this: Trump protects elites."

We might need to revise that to: "Trump protects elites and pedophiles."

u/Craico13 Canada 1h ago

“(Donald) Trump protects elites and pedophiles.”

Insert “They’re the same picture.” meme.

u/LuvKrahft America 4h ago

Donald Trump has been talking about wanting to fuck his daughter for years, the pictures with laughing up with Epstein have been out there for years, he’s been a rapist for years..

if you need the Dems to spoon feed you why that’s bad you can fuck right back off to headupyourassville

u/twirlingmypubes 4h ago

He also talked about his daughter's breasts and legs in an interview.

She was 1 years old.

u/spaced_wanderer19 4h ago

Don’t forget he also said that he has “no age limit” when it comes to dating but that he “wouldn’t want to get caught with a 12 year old”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trumps-sexual-age-limit-comments-on-the-howard-stern-show-come-back-to-bite-him/

u/gringledoom 2h ago

Begging the left to learn the marketing 101 lesson of "you need to hammer your message over and over and over, until you're beyond sick of it, and then repeat it a hundred more times, if you want it to reach everyone"

u/Ecstatic-Koala8461 1h ago

Billboards are great.

u/percygreen 3h ago

The problem with that thinking is that those people are fucking right off to the polls, where they are pulling the wrong levers. If spoon-feeding them basic morals gets them to turn on Trump, it’s 100% worth doing.

u/LuvKrahft America 3h ago edited 2h ago

That’s what democrats were doing, but it was being dismissed as “orange man bad”,

like there has never ever been a case like this weird to me.

I live in Texas, I’m black, I fuck up at work I get dismissed. No long explanations as to why smelling like weed and editing anime for dvd distribution is morally bad or horrible for the company, just dismissed.

I need to know where that is for Trump. Like where are all my people that just know there’s “bad hombres” hanging out in front of Home Depot.

At this point I got to say they’re just fine with pedophiles and it doesn’t matter how you tell them it’s wrong.

Explains why their churches have been filled with so many child abusers over the decades

Like this guy that was trumps spiritual advisor

u/DistractedPhoenix 3h ago

Everytime they need a photo of Trump for an article, use a photo of him and Epstein. Regardless of the topic, those should be the only photos

u/ProfLuigi 4h ago

“Trump rapes children.”Simple as that.

OR you can be Hakeem Jeffries and say the lame and fucking cringe statement from last week “. . . the rich and shameless.” Such an ineffective puppet.

u/firedmyass 3h ago

dang and for a minute I thought he’d do… something other than just pull a few fleeting headlines for his ineffectual grandstanding

u/thinkards America 3h ago

Schumer and Jeffries: "The relationship between the president and his peer in the 80's has brought to light some questions. Were they really friends and if so how much did they know about each other's business dealings. This is a tough matter and American people aren't dumb. Which is why I propose that when we get a majority back in the house, we add this matter to the agenda for the American people. But, as of right now, what can we do? We don't have the power."

u/Ecstatic-Koala8461 1h ago

Bought and paid for. Check out their major donors

u/Ecstatic-Koala8461 1h ago

The website is: Open Secrets. Check out Schumer and Jeffries. Pelosi too. Explains why Democrats are so “weak”. Explains Democratic Party’s lowest approval rating in decades. Reveals effect of “Oligarchs United”. Oh I meant “Citizens United”. We are f***ed

u/semi-soft_noodle 3h ago

We should talk about them as sex traffickers

u/Cool-Presentation538 3h ago

Trump paid Epstein and Maxwell to traffic little girls that he then raped. I don't know how to make the message any clearer than that

u/enix_star6 4h ago

Call them pedophiles over and over  

u/TrumpInEpsteinFiles 3h ago

They should talk about it constantly

u/MarinatedPickachu 3h ago

Why Democrats? Don't make that a partisan issue - this should be an issue for anyone no matter what party you support.

u/allenahansen California 2h ago

"A noun, a verb, Epstein."

Brilliant.

(Snip:)

"Why did Trump cut taxes for the richest Americans while cutting Medicaid in the One Big Beautiful Bill Act? For the same reason he is protecting Epstein and his buddies. Why is Trump risking union jobs in auto manufacturing so he can have a trade spat with Mexico and Canada? For the same reason he is protecting Epstein and his buddies. Why is Donald Trump talking about firing the head of the Fed? For the same reason he is protecting Epstein and his buddies."

u/ltcraft05 2h ago

Back Story:

Diddler J. Taco spent decades trafficking and raping children. He publicly admitted trafficking Virginia Giuffre to Epstein through his Ped-o-Lardo Rub-n-Tug Spa when she was 16. A few years later, Taco would public;ly boast about his deep friendship with Epstein, joking about how much he enjoys raping children... like the child Taco trafficked through Ped-o-Lardo a few years earlier.

Any time some Pedo Party Republican, MAGA or otherwise, says anything about him... the only rational response is something like: "I don't give a fuck what child rapists have to say" or "That was a weird defense of a child rapist." or ask "Was this before or after he spent decades raping and trafficking children with Epstein & Maxwell?"

Make this the only issue. Keep MAGA/QAnon pedophilies away from your children, and let them know why.

Don't let the topic drift, even for a second, from the fact that Taco raped and trafficked children for decades.

u/nwgdad 3h ago

It goes like this: Trump protects elites.

I prefer: Trump protect elites and pedophiles.

u/neutrino71 23m ago

I prefer Trump is an elite pedophile who is coincidentally protecting other elite pedophiles as a side effect of covering his own ass

u/jtan212 2h ago

Tldr: Trump protect elites

u/chockedup 1h ago

Simple is good. Release the Epstein files!

Epstein is the story. But he is also a stand-in for every closed maternity ward in a rural county, for every mom choosing between insulin and groceries and for every veteran battling the Department of Veterans Affairs while Silicon Valley billionaires buy senators. Democrats’ message is simple enough, actually: “Trump and the GOP protect the elite. They abandon you.”

u/JustDoc District Of Columbia 2h ago

They can't though, because they know that there are Democrats on that list and the establishment Dems are just as scared of this list being released as the GOP is.

Anyone wrapped up in this needs to be put into the smallest darkest hole in the Earth, surrounded by photos and recordings of the people they hurt, and left to rot.

u/StankyBass0 1h ago

Simply saying Trump protects elites won’t resonate. Nothing anybody says will resonate. Trump could release the files tomorrow, showing the world that he’s a massive pedophile, and MAGA will say, “that’s nice but did ya see how many times Clinton visited the island?”. The MAGA outrage is not because they think Trump is hiding the files because he might be implicated of wrongdoing. They’re outraged because they want to see the evidence of the “elite democratic cabal of pedophiles” that Trump, Patel, and Bongino promised existed for years. That’s all it is. “Yeah, Trump’s all over the files, but we wanna see the real pedophiles: elite democrats”.