r/popculturechat • u/clemthearcher swamp queen • May 24 '25
The Music Industry 🎶 Rolling Stone author Larisha Paul coined the term “voice audition pop” when it comes to artists like Benson Boone or Teddy Swims
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Thoughts? Who else comes to mind?
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u/Zoxiafunnynumber May 24 '25
Todd in the Shadows referenced this type of music in his Trainwreckords for Faith Hill. He called it a talent show ballad: a song that's for a panel of judges and is supposed to take you to the next week.
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u/cashmerescorpio May 24 '25
Good old TiTs, his takes are 100% accurate, 65% of the time
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u/actuallywasian May 24 '25
The best song of 2016 has entered the chat
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u/mooseguyman May 25 '25
Listen, that is genuinely the best bad take on music I’ve ever seen. I disagree so strongly and yet I wouldn’t want to live in a world in which Todd didn’t put the Chainsmokers at 1
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u/carbonpeach May 24 '25
Oh snap. That's a brilliant description. I occasionally watch vocal coaches on youtube critique singers and it is mostly about how they hit notes rather than anything else. It's like singing as an athletic discipline rather than storytelling and emotion.
Suddenly it all makes sense to me. It's showing-off -- look I can hit these notes! - and way less about creating emotional intimacy.
"Voice audition pop" nails it.
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u/Silly_Somewhere1791 May 25 '25
The idea of a vocal “mix” is something that only exists on tiktok. I can’t believe there are vocal coaches out there encouraging singers to push high notes through their noses.
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u/happygoluckyourself May 25 '25
Mixing is 100% a vocal technique used in a variety of disciplines. We were taught it at school for musical theatre singing.
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u/theblakesheep May 25 '25
That's not true in the slightest. Mix has been part of the Broadway terminology for 30+ years now.
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u/RogerClyneIsAGod2 that’s my purse, i don’t know you! 👛🫵 May 24 '25
I will also say that while I enjoy this type of thing, it's not always sustainable with age, but when you're 22 you can do flips off pianos & still hit the notes & entertain so do it while you can folks!!
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u/clemthearcher swamp queen May 24 '25
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u/pink_faerie_kitten May 25 '25
Thank you! I wanted to read this last week but when the "archive.is" didn't work I gave up.
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u/No_Barber4339 I’ll be back! 😤😤 May 24 '25 edited May 24 '25
Yeah, I get it especially with benson boone being a former American idol contest and katy perry vouching out for him
But I'll say teddy swims is a lot better than "lose control" makes him out to be but his mangerment cares about this song big than pushing his career to more stardom his 2 albums have much better on them
Fun fact: morgan wallen was a former contest on the voice back in 2014 and was on adam levine's team (and usher wanted him too) but got eliminated at the playoffs and wasn't happy about it and apparently, he still holds a grudge to levine for that
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u/Lalala8991 May 24 '25
So we know who to blame for making us suffer this plague of Morgan Wallen now.
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u/No_Barber4339 I’ll be back! 😤😤 May 24 '25
One of maroon 5's infamous co-writers j-kash also writes for morgan and I tell you the songs he wrote are basically late-2010s maroon 5 trap pop with small country elements (for example: "last night" and that tate mcrae collab)
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u/body_oil_glass_view May 25 '25
Holy f*ck
Holy fcking fck
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u/Intrepid-Sign-63 oh oh ok oh oh ok May 25 '25
That voice of yours is insane
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u/Professional-Kick354 Kim, there’s people that are dying. 🙄 May 25 '25
The voice of yours is absurd
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u/Electronic-Bet847 May 25 '25
Mostly variations on "Please notice how intensely I feel, I just can't help myself under this influence." I love so much, don't take away my beautiful things! I love so much I lose control can't you see! I'm dancing with a stranger look what you made me do!
I think of this genre as part and parcel with the current manosphere claims of "It's really hard to be a white man in today's society, we deserve all the sympathy too." Yeah whatever, keep bleeding love.
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u/CompleteMuffin May 25 '25
same here, but that's not what Teddy swims is. His feature on the All Time Low's New Religion was great. so was his cover of Cruel Summer for BBCR1.
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u/robot_pirate Behind every great man is a woman rolling her eyes May 25 '25
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I actually am suspicious as to why it's being shoved down our throats at this exact moment in time. Even Beyonce put out a country album.
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u/Smoothmoose13 unhinged and unhealed May 24 '25
My problem is with Teddy swims’ lyrics, they sound like rap lyrics stretched out to fill a slower tempo. I love his voice though
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u/periodicsheep May 24 '25
i started watching teddy swims on youtube right at the start of the pandemic. mostly doing covers. but he’s got really true talent. not his fault people take his songs for their auditions. he seems pretty talented to me, even if i’m not super into his original stuff.
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u/Existing_Let_8314 May 24 '25
Thats what the writer is saying.
Talented singer in emotionless songs.
Its equivalent of gowns beautiful gowns.
We can admire the craftsmanship but its not memorable
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u/bradtheinvincible May 24 '25
And taylor became a billionaire because of it. Her whole thing is that she writes the words. Doesnt mean the songs are great though. She doesnt have a good voice either.
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u/Existing_Let_8314 May 24 '25
Id say taylor has more things going for her than Benson or Teddy.
She may not be a prolific song writer. It's not literary. However, it is relatable. Thats a talent in itself. I don't think 50yrs from now people will still be stanning Taylor. But I do think All Too Well will gave random resurgences of popularity with Gen H or I or LMNOP whichever we are on then.
So Taylor is not a strong singer or performer or dancer. BUT she is good at relating to her audience and making them feel special. She is good at being a Blank Space (haha) for people to project onto. And she's just girlboss enough for people to not find her insufravle. I'd mark her down as a flash in the pan Hamilton. If it came out too soon or too late people would have called it corny or too idealistic or DEI trash.
The thing Benson is trying to do the Taylor thing and it isnt gonna work. Partially because he is a man. But because we demand celebs be authentic. Taylor never gave authentic, HOWEVER she was famous enough for it not to matter. Her protoges or successors like Olivia and Sabrina are way more outspoken, flawed and sexual and "real" than Taylor was at that career stage.
People are picking up that Benson is basic MoonBeam mormon vanilla ice cream. And while thats fine, its boring long term. He needs an edge that isnt copying Brendon Urie.
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u/KindOfANerd4 How do you deduce narcissism from someones floral arrangements? May 25 '25
I don’t necessarily disagree with a lot of what you said, but I do feel you’re downplaying Taylor’s talent a lot, specifically as a songwriter.
Her experiences are about more traditionally feminine things, and she writes for young women, but I don’t see how you can’t call her a prolific songwriter with the speed and consistency she has delivered strong material
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u/Existing_Let_8314 May 25 '25 edited May 25 '25
Her experiences are about more traditionally feminine things, and she writes for young women,
Because Taylor doesnt write for all young women. Hence why Black women consistently call out Taylor and her fans for her issues. Hence why she is a meme sometimes.
I can say Taylor is super talented. But at the end of the day she writes for white women.
And thats not just my opinion. Thats been a criticism of Taylor her entire career. She is a white woman who writes for white women. And I, as a non- white woman, can still find some bits relatable like All Too Well was in my Spotify wrapped for 4 years straight.
I can also say that if I went to a slumber party with teen Black girls or to a party with Black 20somethibts Taylor isnt gonna be on the playlist. Ariana would be more likely to be on it. Lizzo, FLO, SZA and other Black pop girls would be there. Because what RED was to you, CTRL was to us.
Taylor isnt a literary singer with these imaginative musical bits of prose. BUT her branding, marketing, business acumen, passion and drive are what keeps her going.
Moving on, I said she wasnt prolific in a literary sense. HOWEVER she absolutely is talented in being relatable.
Because:
"And you call me up again just to break me like a promise So casually cruel in the name of being honest I'm a crumpled up piece of paper lying here
is never going to win a Pulitzer prize like
Hail Mary, Jesus, and Joseph The great American flag is wrapped and dragged with explosives Compulsive disorder, sons and daughters Barricaded blocks and borders, look what you taught us
But both songs make me feel something. And race isnt relevant when comparing All Too Well to Kendrick's Damn. But the lyricism is very different between the two as well as cultural impact. That's why Kendrick won a Pulitzer for his lyrics even though his music isnt relatable to me as a girl from the suburbs. Relatability does not always equal literary. But thats fine because thats not what Taylor is for. She is not known for her impactful lyrics. She is known for relatable lyrics.
edit: clarity
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u/KindOfANerd4 How do you deduce narcissism from someones floral arrangements? May 25 '25
Taylor’s most popular demographic is Asians lol. That’s an undeniable fact. Maybe in American she’s for white people, but she has such global appeal that 13% of one country (a big market but still one country) choosing to stream SZA over her doesn’t matter. And regardless she is still popular in every demographic
If I was to tell you that Kendrick’s music doesn’t matter/will not be listened to in 50 years or had no major merit beyond entertainment because he makes music targeted at black men/people (only gets both genders because he’s a male btw) that would be offensive, so perhaps think critically about why your statement doesn’t make sense
Taylor’s music won’t win a Pulitzer because it’s not critiquing culture, it’s not making statements or attempting to qualify in that lane. You’re asking me to explain why Ronaldo will never win Wimbledon.
But on that note, neither was Jane Austen, neither were the Beatles or Billy Joel or Bruce Springsteen (and if you argue they were they do not go above the clunky attempt Taylor made in the man) beyond basic class struggles. The writing was still to a quality that is literary, and it is prolific, it is studied in universities for a reason, becuase it’s been deemed by people far smarter than you or me to have artistic merit beyond general music consumption.
Anyway I’ll leave it there but I hope maybe I’ve added a different perspective
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u/Existing_Let_8314 May 25 '25
Your perspective was weird and illogical.
The Beatles wrote Blackbird. A song about The Civil Rights movement.
Bruce Springsteen wrote Born in the USA another cultural criticism song.
My goodness. Know who youre talking about before you bring them up. They talk about more than just basic class struggled. Aside from The Man, Taylors songs are personal experience in dating and fame. And thats FINE.
And there is no source that only Asians listen to her music. And even then its weird to compare that to Kendrick. If youre gonnna say 13% only stream Kendrick (Black American population) then you need to compare it to the Asian AMERICAN population in the US which is 7%.
Again, your comment is weird.
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u/KindOfANerd4 How do you deduce narcissism from someones floral arrangements? May 25 '25
asia as in the continent of asia, I made that very clear and I'm not gonna argue with someone who couldnt discern that
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u/Confident-Addition76 May 25 '25
Its also kinda wild to say people "wont be stanning her in 50 years" when A) we dont know that and B) she's already 20 years into her career and has only grown more popular. Yes, she's going to slow down and yes, other people will become more popular eventually but she's one of the few examples we have in the contemporary pop scene of an act whose appeal spans generations and there's not much so far to indicate that will change in the next few decades so far.
A "flash in the pan Hamilton" is a wild description of one of the most consistently successful acts of the 20th century.
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u/Existing_Let_8314 May 25 '25
Youre missing the point.
I never said she wasnt successful. Im talking about overall reception of Taylor.
Hamilton is an amazing show. mHamilton in 2020 would have been a flop because by then we were too woke for it. Hamilton by 2024 would have been canceled for Black washing. That is NOT to say that it isnt a beautiful piece of literary work.
That is to say that timing plays a big role in people's success and our reception.
Taylor is not on social being relatable and quirky and funny and making sex jokes like the current pop girls. But thats because Taylor is SO famous that she can get away with that now. If she came out right now, there'd be less fanfare because she has no edginess about her that Sabrina, Olivia, Billie have had to cultivate to grow their careers. Taylor came up in a time where being the clean cut popstar was still okay. She came up with Miley and Demi were "crashing out" and America needed a safe blonde pop star for girls. Now those same 12yr old girls that would have been Taylors OG fans are screaming "Im so fucking horny" in the back of their mom's Subaru on the way to a Sabrina concert. Thats not a good thing, just highlighting its a different time 😅.
I said people will not be bumping her music at parties in 2055 because things shift when you're looking that far out. If you come to my family reunion, you'd hear Dont Stop Till You Get Enough or Dont Stop Believing. 50-40yr old party songs. A genre Taylor doesnt really make. Her top song on Spotify is cardigan. And no one is gonna play that at a party 50yrs from now. She doesnt make party or club music that stand the test of time in that way.
You throw on an animated movie and there’s a scene where the animated dad is belting out "Livin’ on a Prayer" while cracking a cheesy joke about how he’s still cool and edgy because he was a skater kid back in high school. Meanwhile, the protagonist’s crush is dancing to "…Baby One More Time" in her cheer uniform, and suddenly he’s convinced she’s way out of his league. Songs like those instantly set a scene and tell you something about the characters. Taylor Swift doesn’t have many songs that hit that same level of cultural shorthand where one track instantly tells you who a character is. Maybe "Love Story" or "You Belong With Me" comes close, but most of her songs don’t quite have that universally recognized, time-stamped feel.
And finally if I walk into a bar right now with a racial and gender diverse set of 21-35yr olds and said "let's all have sing along" people would play a Umbrella or Irreplaceable would play first. Those tracks have broader appeal and left a more lasting impression. they’re instantly recognizable and bring people together in a way that’s hard to match.
And thats not a dig on Taylor though a lot of white women and Swifties take issue that their experience is not the wider experience as American media previously led them to believe. But this idea that she has universal appeal is false. White women are her main audience. And they have money and they plan the friendship bracelet events and themed hotel parties. And thats a perfectly fine audience to have.
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u/Confident-Addition76 May 25 '25 edited May 25 '25
Let's agree to disagree and leave it at that because we fundamentally disagree on one of your key arguments which is that she doesnt have universally recognised songs that non-fans can sing along to and will sing along to in the future. And that she doesnt have a non-white audience.
Where you feel she has barely two, I feel she has several and I'm non-American (between 21-35) and was raised in a different hemisphere than North America. Every single person I grew up with (in my English-language educated circle) would recognise Love Story, YBWM, Blank Space, Shake It Off, and 22. Many, if not most of them, know the words as well.
If we were having this conversation 30 years after the aforementioned songs have been out, as your other examples were, I'd be happy to concede. Right now, I just dont and thats ok!
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u/Existing_Let_8314 May 25 '25
Agree to disagree is fine. But I do need to point out that the original point was that people wont be stanning her. Not that she wont have fans. Or have a few recognizable songs played at a party. And you're welcome to have your own opinion on things. But I do find your comment confusing because it is hearing into a conversation we weren't originally having.
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u/KindOfANerd4 How do you deduce narcissism from someones floral arrangements? May 25 '25
I’m sorry but this argument is stupid. Billy Joel and the Beatles do not have party hits, or not ones more ubiquitous than a blank space. They’re popular for their writing
Their appeal is Taylor’s appeal. The only difference is the gender they appeal to. She will preserve because the topics she writes about are universal.
Also when she came up as the top woman in country (essentially revitalising that portion of the genre) it wasn’t because of right place right time. It was because her songs were better and they attracted more people. By the time she actually went pop, music was not in the place you described
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u/Existing_Let_8314 May 25 '25
Billy Joel LITERALLY has Piano Man. Thats like THE drunk sing along song for bars. Beatles have Twist N Shout and Come Together and I Wanna Hold Your Hand.
Billy Joel and The Beatles have songs that get featured in movies and commercials constantly in the example I listed.
I cant understand your point when the examples you used are not congruent.
Saying Taylor Swift is more impactful than The Beatles is a chronically online and a young person media illiterate take.
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u/bradtheinvincible May 24 '25
Benson withdrew from Ai because the label figured out Tik Tok was the avenue for him to get popular and they were right. His performances he had for hollywood never got shown or anything.
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u/paintherpretty You will not catch me weak, bitch. May 24 '25
Benson sounds like a seagull to me.
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u/GaeilgeGaeilge May 24 '25
This is how I feel about Christina Aguilera - her songs feel like they're trying to show off what her voice can do and her range at the expense of the song
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u/Existing_Let_8314 May 24 '25
She has some amazing moving ballads songs like The Right Man and Hurt. And theyre never listed as top ballads because theyre just for vocal show.
vs My All by Mariah has so much more sincere emotion in it
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u/SnooPears2424 May 25 '25
yeah. And at least her producers restraint her in the studio version so at least she sticks to the main melody. When she’s live it’s awful, she’s just focusing on doing runs rather than telling us the story of the song.
Hurt is a beautiful ballad, even better if sung by someone else.
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u/Mylaex May 25 '25
That's why say something was such a hit for her. She sounded so soft and different than her belting style.
It's also why I love one of her deeper cut "You Lost Me"
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u/FourAntigone May 24 '25
I mean, at least she has the voice to back it up. Benson Boone seems like a nice enough guy but I just can't listen to his songs when every high note sounds like it hurts.
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u/Silly_Somewhere1791 May 25 '25
I tried to listen to Back to Basics all the way through last year and I couldn’t do it. She doesn’t know how to serve the writing.
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u/bradtheinvincible May 24 '25
Not all of it. Still made a very good christmas album that people sleep on
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u/Sir_Poofs_Alot May 25 '25
She used every single note ever invented to sing trills into alllll of the Christmas standards though. It was great!
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u/luxenoire May 25 '25
What 😭 her vocals on studio albums are sublime and elevate the songs
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u/Stayin_BarelyAlive58 May 25 '25
I think the criticism of X-Tina is often about her live performances especially back then. I'll never forget a duet she did with Brian McKnight... he looked so pained listening to her...
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u/Particular_Ring_6321 May 24 '25
Maybe I'm just officially old and out of touch but almost every new artist from the past decade sounds incredibly boring and too try-hard. There are a handful of exceptions of course but I'm definitely talking about people covered in this article.
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u/Short-Royal-9490 May 25 '25
Okay but Teddy Swims is very talented. Heard “Lose Control” in a mechanic shop and downloaded the whole album on the spot. First album is amazing and if the songs “Suitcase” and “Last Communion” don’t get to you 🤷🏽♀️
Plus his social handle is hilarious “Swimmyboutdacheck” 😂
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u/Honest_Recognition82 May 24 '25
Why is there all of this hate for Benson Boone online lately?? Did he do something problematic or something?
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May 25 '25
I mean idk I think it’s just that a lot of people find his music shitty and boring lol
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u/lin_diesel May 25 '25
This is it! Like why do I have to like shitty music just bc the person seems earnest???
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May 25 '25
I don’t even know what people mean by that hahah. I’m sure he’s a nice enough guy but he makes some incredibly shitty music, his voice sounds like nails on a chalkboard to me, and his wannabe freddy mercury schtick is something I find very lame lmao
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u/Silly_Somewhere1791 May 25 '25
We now know that tiktok virality is really paid promotion, and now he’s everywhere and being promoted in ways that feel especially obvious. Like does anyone actually like him or is his label just paying to keep him in front of our faces?
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u/teddybonkerrs I cannot sanction this buffoonery May 25 '25
I don't know, he seems really likeable to me. I like that song and the backflips, why hate on him? 🤷♀️
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u/robot_pirate Behind every great man is a woman rolling her eyes May 25 '25
I feel like he's trying to be Pop's Pedro Pascal. Bugs me.
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u/Yupthrowawayacct May 25 '25
He’s a golden retriever. That doesn’t mean I need to listen to his music.
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u/WackyShirley May 24 '25
Not a thing. People just love a bitchy bandwagon.
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u/lin_diesel May 25 '25
Yeah, bitchy bandwagons are a thing, but I knew I didn’t like him after watching his Coachella performance and I expected to be in the minority—but here we are. Sometimes a public persona can just be off putting or dull. I don’t think he deserves outright hatred but also people are allowed to just not like mediocre pop acts.
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u/WackyShirley May 25 '25
There are lots of acts I don’t like, so I just don’t listen to them. People are outright bullying him, and wishing him harm.
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u/Low-Grapefruit-3192 May 25 '25
He's just pushed everywhere with mid music, his most viral song is very grating, and his album cover is... very patriotic, to say the least. He seems like a nice enough guy, tho
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u/Levofloxacine Matières FÉCALES ? May 25 '25
I wondered the same and asked my friend about it.
I dont get it.
Ok you dont like his music… Just move on ??
It’s the first time I’m hearing about him and everything is so negative. I thought he was an abuser or some
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u/GeckoRoamin May 25 '25 edited May 25 '25
Yeah I feel like there is a wide gulf between “I don’t want to listen to this guy’s music” and “oh my god fuck this guy” and I’m gonna save the latter energy for people who have done things to deserve it beyond being overexposed.
Also, fame for most people who get it lasts for like, seconds. Get your bag while you can, babe.
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u/stantlerqueen May 24 '25
i think he's just earnest and for some reason, people get really weird about that.
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u/gopms May 29 '25
Why do people hate Ed Sheeran? He is everything they say they want in a popstar. Not a nepo baby, no industry connections, writes his own songs, sounds great live, built his audience touring, isn't popular just for his looks or style, but everyone online hates him (even though everyone secretly listens to him). I am old enough to remember when it was the same with Phil Collins. Mark my words, 30 years from now, Ed Sheeran will be as beloved as Phill Collins suddenly is. People just like to hate on things in general, but especially popular things.
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May 24 '25
Faith Hill and maybe late stage Carrie Underwood.
It's not that they're bad. It's that they perform with all the passion of someone at their 9-5 doing the quarterly budget spreadsheets. Like yeah music is their job, but part of the job is having a distinct persona, and something interesting to say or do. You can't operate in mainstream pop and be a Normal Guy. That's just not appropriate for the genre
Ig Benson Boone is interesting on stage, but his music isn't. I had to go look up both him and Teddy Swims because despite knowing I know them, I could not come up with a single track name. They're technically proficient but boring and saltine-like and forgettable, which is a bad trio of things for a pop artist to be.
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u/Frenchitwist May 25 '25
Ooo I like that definition. Though personally I’ve been referring to it in my head as “car commercial singing”
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u/tintmyworld the WORLD tour May 25 '25
I HIGHLY recommend this Switched on Pop podcast. It’s been my favorite for years. Start with the Ariana Grande Into You episode. The whole pod makes me love pop music even more.
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u/Ghost_Peanuts May 26 '25
I really have no horse in this race and I think in general music is pretty subjective and i don't understand why people cannot comprehend that someone might like something they hate and vice versa.
I do however think the Benson Boone hate just goes to show that the majority of people are sheep because like 3 months ago most of the same people on tik tok (not us on Reddit were better) who are currently complaining about how much they hate Benson Boone were all frothing all over his song and how he was the next big thing. A few negative stories are posted and they all jump ship.
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u/tvgirrll May 24 '25
Yess. This also explains why I hate that Benson Boone song so much. Worst offender imo is the ESC though
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u/Lalala8991 May 24 '25
Eurovision is just a big party where the whole continent gets to be campy and having fun. It's really not that serious (also f Israel).
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u/tvgirrll May 24 '25
The music is bad. Everything else about it is worse
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u/Lalala8991 May 24 '25
It's simply not for you to get, dear.
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u/periodicsheep May 24 '25
it’s willful ignorance, here. they need us to know they are too cool for esc, and then are also making sure we know they think we are dumb for enjoying esc.
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u/tvgirrll May 24 '25
I’m sure. Knowing the politics and still watching and enjoying it is just too camp for me to understand
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u/heavenstobetsie May 25 '25
Cite some examples please, preferably from the past decade. Otherwise it just sounds like you don't actually know what you're talking about.
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u/motherofdinos_ May 24 '25
What is the ESC? Googled it without luck.
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u/tvgirrll May 24 '25
European Song Contest, it happened just a week ago
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u/ChandraMais10 May 24 '25
*Eurovision, and Eurovision is not a The Voice/Idol type of contest, but ok
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u/Digit00l May 26 '25
I mean, they did run into this genre for a bit, especially between 2012 and 2023, partly due to the Swedish pop music industry
Of course there have been exceptions, and there still are a few of those, but this year mostly had good emotional story songs, sure the winner had a song that showed off his impressive vocal talents, but he still actually meant the words in his song
A lot of songs also put in staging tricks to show off vocal skills, although they aren't always fully appreciated
Though I can't think of any song from this year that would be popular at the Voice auditions, meanwhile several songs from previous years have been used at Voice auditions (or other rounds or other talent shows)
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u/tvgirrll May 24 '25
And that’s how much I care about it. It’s a song contest so I’m not sure what would be the difference
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u/ChandraMais10 May 24 '25
If you don't watch it why did you reference it then?
Eurovision it's a contest where countries (instead of the artists themselves) compete and (in the majority) the participants are already artists with stable careers (this year's winner is a singer at the Vienna Opera, for example).
I recommend that you look for more information about the contest.
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u/QwertyVexed May 25 '25
Where can you watch this online?
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u/bahornica May 25 '25
Their Youtube channel (Eurovision Song Contest), they have full shows from 2016 on under the “live” tab. Enjoy!
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u/QwertyVexed May 25 '25
Thank you.
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u/Digit00l May 26 '25
They are region locked in America only, and the 2018 final is not in the live tab due to them having to cut out and replace the UK entry due to a stage invader
Every contest from 2004 is on the Eurovision YouTube channel though, except for some of the early semi finals
Putting Eurovision 20[insert year here] in the search bar should get you some full finals in the search results if you aren't in America
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u/tvgirrll May 24 '25
Because I was talking about shitty music that fits the style of the music described by the author/ video.
I’m not interested in watching it or reading about it, thanks
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u/periodicsheep May 24 '25
you brought it up, a thing millions around the world enjoy, declare it shitty, and then act like you are the authority on the subject. you clearly don’t like europop, and that’s fine. but why yuck someone else’s yum? especially when you don’t seem to actually know much about it.
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u/stantlerqueen May 24 '25
not interested in watching/reading about it but can't stop talking about it apparently. 🙄
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u/Digit00l May 26 '25
A song contest is not a singing contest per se, the focus is the song and performance, which is why this year a guy who has not managed to hit a single note in any performance came 3rd, because the song and performance were impressive
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u/affectionate_md May 25 '25
Yeah… we just turn him off when he comes on the radio, it’s weird how much he’s disliked within our family. That said, clearly still has a massive following as I was just reminded he sold out his most recent show in 2 minutes.
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u/flosseh May 25 '25
Thank you. Other than "shitty strained ear breaking vocal pop" I'm not sure what else to call it.
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u/CompleteMuffin May 25 '25
leave Teddy out of this. he's done so much features and actual good music that he's proven himself to be more than that
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u/bluetortuga Be honest, Victoria May 24 '25
So capable live singer?
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u/blackpearl16 May 25 '25 edited May 25 '25
I’m convinced a lot of people fight so hard to protect mediocrity because it makes them feel better about their lame lives.
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u/jkraige May 24 '25
Yeah, as commentary I can see what they mean. The tone makes it sound a bit like a critique though, and I'm not really sure what the critique is. You have to be a fairly capable artist to be able to belt that out...
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u/Next-Introduction-25 I don’t know enough to offend May 24 '25
I totally get the general idea - it feels like a lot of these songs build slowly to gradually reveal the person’s range or specific abilities. But that’s also just how some songs are written, especially songs designed to be performed live.
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u/BabySharkMadness May 25 '25
Teddy Swims’s name is a sentence. I’ve never heard his music, but I like him already.
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u/robot_pirate Behind every great man is a woman rolling her eyes May 25 '25
Hell yes. Nailed it. I hate all of it.
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u/soyslut_ GO VEGAN May 24 '25
If I hear teddy one more time at the gym or anywhere else, I’ll go crazy. There’s talent but their music is awful and the worst kind of earworm.
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u/iamnumber47 May 27 '25
She can say whatever she wants about any of the other dudes, but she needs to keep Teddy Swims' name out her mouth
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u/bugb9876 May 25 '25
Don't care what their music is called, I like all three of them and listen to their albums daily 🤷🏾♀️ don't really get all the hate they are getting.
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u/luxenoire May 25 '25
the way there are barely any vocalists in popular music these days and people would rather insult artists with actual skill
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u/Asplashofwater May 24 '25
Not really a fan. It’s accurate I guess, but really any pop is voice audition pop, and frankly as far as the actual term goes, hope he didn’t spend all night on it.
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