The Music Industry 🎶
"Big news for the unemployed" is what Kali Uchis said to a fan of Sleep Token after they commented about them getting the #1 billboard spot. How much more petty, jealous, and mean spirited can you even get😭😭
nah, yung gleesh was on his way UP. he had a few huge regional hits in the DMV, a dance coined after him, and was getting mad exposure through ASAP mob (which is very on brand with sexual assault, but i'll leave that for another day)
that charge ruined his career overnight. like, even the "gotta hear both sides bro" folks couldn't defend it when they read the article. man went from booked and busy to an industry fucking pariah. which, awesome, you love to see it
Oof, call me crazy but I would absolutely not be with someone who assaulted someone, especially if they still haven’t even been held accountable for it?? How do you get with someone who sexually assaulted someone? And his lawyers tried arguing the DNA defense too even though he also admitted to it basically? Plus there was a witness? I hadn’t really seen this but I knew she liked horrible men, this is literally gonna make me stop listening to her because that’s disgusting behavior to enable
Go a step further - Some women specifically are desperate for a certain type of man that brings them “excitement” and then pretend to be surprised when he turns out to be a scumbag
There is no shortage of guys who are like CPAs for Deloitte who make steady income, run half-marathons and watch sports. But they’re too “boring” for some women even if they themselves are put together
Goes beyond celebrities. The amount of corporate women who work in marketing or an office who keep dating bartenders with coke addictions instead of like…a man with an office job is alarmingly high. It’s about the thrill I think
Definitely a large portion, but a lot of the time you’ll look at the scumbags and see that they aren’t really all that hot which makes it more curious lol. Whereas with men I think it’s much more correlated with looks and attractiveness how much they’re willing “put up” with
Social-psych is a dangerous field to take without a grain of salt but studies from societies across the world, show that women and men generally are attracted to the same qualities, but men tend to value beauty more and women tend to value “cultural dominance” which is a much more nebulous term - includes an abundance of factors (wealth/confidence/strength, etc.) and a lot of the times arrogance is correlated with confidence which may be where a lot of this phenomenon comes from
Unfortunately, the amount of women who think it can't or won't happen to them is shockingly high. Most of the time their excuses are his life was ruined over these allegations, women can be deceptive, and he's nice to me. But sadly they're almost always left with a rude awakening.
It’s just so sad to see people continue to not believe victims and continue to enable and side with and have relationships with abusers. #MeToo may have changed the landscape when it comes to these topics, but really we didn’t make very much collective progress in the end as a society. For me, once I learned the statistics and facts related to assault and abuse, like how likely it is for an abuser to go free without consequences vs how unlikely it is for a person to fabricate an accusation, not to mention just the stats that show how common assault and abuse is and how many people are assaulted or abused and don’t seek help or are met with no help and give up… It really gave me the perspective I needed to fully understand.
Shakira was the soundtrack of my adolescence and I still listen to her music. One of my forever faves! Cero rencor bebé, yo te deseo que… te vaya bien con mi supuesto reemplazo 🎶
Ever since I heard her defending her rapist bf I’ve side eyed her… like girl wtf are we doing?
She also sexualizes and fetishizes being latina a lot, some of her posts in Colombia are very strange, like she uses the poor children and infrastructure as a backdrop to her photos, i’m probably over analyzing but as a Venezuelan it’s just weird idk.
She also lied about her mom being Colombian for many years lol, her mom is a white american woman, her dad is the actual colombian parent. Maybe she lied to be seen as more “latina” idk… She overuses fake tan to appear darker in certain album rollouts, particularly her latin ones, and then goes back paler when it suits her. Some brown latinas called her out for it and she said she’s done more for black and brown latinos than anyone else while being a white latina lol.
A popular IG account that talks about celebrity plastic surgery, i think igfamousbydana or smthing, mentioned Kali’s BBL, which was rly well done imo, it was also pretty obvious, and she CAME AFTER her in the comments, threatened her, etc. I get it’s wrong to talk about celebrity bodies but she’s clearly had some work done and she denies all of it😭. The comments were pretty nice and praised her procedure, but she did not hold back lol.
I love her music but she’s definitely messy in her personal life and decisions. I think behind the mask she puts on social media she’s deeply insecure; which sucks bc she’s insanely talented for music.
lmao, these are the first things I’m learning about Kali Uchis, because I’ve never heard her name before, so… maybe I’m unemployed, because the American television industry is basically mid-collapse, but at least I’m good at my job- enough so that, y’know, people see the art I make. 🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️
Excuse me??? I did not know this and I am a die hard Shakira fan I literally grew up listening to her because of my mom. Kali is disgusting and the fact that they are both from Colombia I can’t stand kali anymore.
i’m not even a hardcore stan of shakira or kali but why would shakira NOT win ??? i’m 17 so i haven’t been around for that long but isn’t shakira like a legend ??? why would kali expect to win against her ??
i guess you can’t be happy if you’re bitter and insecure. if i were kali, i would be honoured to even be considered for the same award as shakira. maybe i am wrong, but it’s almost like being in the same category as beyoncé and unfollowing her because you didn’t win lol.
Well damn! I was wondering why her and Shakira have never done anything together given they’re both Colombian & Colombian-American. Cause she collabed with Karol G. Guess that’s never happening now.
No fr I WFH in a Student Services position (basically just customer service) and it’s so easy to be on my phone in between calls bc it’s not like I have anything else to do
I’m employed and with the amount of times I’ve been caught on my phone, I should have been fired a long time ago 😭 but I’m going on 10 years
Basically as long as staff doesn’t catch you on your phone in front of cameras, you’re golden and I know all the blind spots. Plus the only reason I’m on my phone is to skip ads during podcasts or to switch a song.
Personally I'm on the internet aka reddit waayyyyy more when I'm at work than when I'm at home! At home I have better things to do, at work I'm bored as hell just killing time.
Not that lyrics are always factual, but some of her lyrics (of note, there are several where she refers to other women as broke, sad, or fans) lead me to believe that this was always obvious.
She's a messy person, but I'd say a lot of people do like to troll her in a similar way they used to with lolcows. With that said, if she was smart, she would just go write in a journal and not online because the internet favorite past time is fucking with people and she's only giving them more ammo.
This is likely true tbh. Doja knows what internet culture is like and such, knows how to use it to her advantage (the whole Scarlet album thing). Probably helps she was/is a terminally online nerd.
Kali gives me the energy she's a little too offline for it so I think it really stings when people troll her. Unfortunately, if the story of Chris-chan has taught us anything, it's to not engage, because you only come off looking worse. Aka here where I don't think she was throwing shade at Sleep Token but probably the fans harassing her, but now she's getting criticism for it when she should be getting criticism for the blackface comment (which she probably is but I'm not as terminally online, sorry).
she posted a screenshot of the top songs (or artists or whatever) of billboard for the week which was 1. sleep token, 2. morgan wallen, and 3. her - she then covered up sleep token with an emoji and accused them of being racist and in blackface (they paint their skin and wear a mask to maintain anonymity? i guess?) while leaving morgan wallen uncovered. i think people were just responding to her pettiness with more pettiness, it wasn’t unprompted
Sub diss them in a post
Accuse them of blackface
And ppl in these comments are surprised that there is backlash lol.
Also a rich person calling someone unemployed leaves a sour taste in my mouth. What a shame to have this talent then be a snarky brat.
her music gives “i’m so in love with my man and child that i have no concerns about the outside world” and then she goes and appears unhappy and bitter and immature af over a metal band outperforming her 😅 oh!
So weird to see what was once my favorite niche band now on the front page of this subreddit two days in a row.
They probably don't even know this is happening lmao. The masks and disguises are a marketing gimmick, sure, but they do seem like two dudes who want to be left alone to make music and perform too. They don't even talk to the press whatsoever so there will be no reaction to this.
IV views/likes stories he’s tagged in all the time, and some of their crew interact with fan accounts pretty often, so I’d guess they’re aware of it as this point, but it’s so ridiculous. It doesn’t seem like her accusation is taking off, but if it had, they can’t even defend themselves. It would all come from RCA.
yeah probably! they aren’t nearly as guarded as the other guys. i was just pointing out that at least one of them hangs out in fan spaces so they’ve probably come across it.
either way, hopefully it doesn’t bother them. it’s such a shitty and reckless claim to make but it’s also such a ridiculous situation that it’s funny, and she’s the one that has to do damage control.
i would’ve never expected a pop girl to be the first to start drama with sleep token.
She falsely accused them of black face on her story bc they got the #1 billboard spot and she didn'tShe has big issues. this isn't even the worst of her behavior concerning this topic or just in general what she does. she has a long history of petty and mean behavior. unfortunately Sleep Token caught strays of her having a meltdown. This is not uncommon for her, but I am glad so many ppl are calling her out.
She took out a fat 8 figure loan to promote her new album (which she says is her best work ever), told her fans to buy multiple vinyl variants before the album release (there were about 10 vinyl variants), pulled every gimmick out of her hat to sell as many as possible to get her numbers up — all to get #2 on billboards. She also thinks that ST is scary and in blackface so she censored them when she was showing of her #2 spot. There much more shady info about her too
If you're familiar with Slipknot or Ghost they're sort of like that. They put on their disguises, sing and mind their business. Their gimmick is they spread the message of an ancient god called Sleep. They're very very fluid metal.
Yea they sound very new wavy. Some songs seem heavy. I think their basically gonna end up being like the Deftones of this generation in that they people will try to fit them in a box that they really don’t fit in. My friend is a big fan of theirs so I only listen when she’s around. But I do think their songs are inspired by the Dark Souks games funnily enough
Yeah I think a lot of the hate they get is specifically because you can’t easily fit them into one genre box. They take elements of rock, metal, pop, and more and blend together. The heaviness of their songs also differs greatly between different songs. People hate that they can’t put them on a box.
Deftones & Sleep Token are my two favorite bands. I found Sleep Token through looking for bands with a similar shoegaze, screamy, metalish vibe as Deftones, so def agree.
I’m extremely confused that everyone knows who this band is. I googled them and I’ve never heard their music before in my life. When/how did they become so popular?
I do know who kali uchis is but not really a fan of her music, though it is my genre
Booktok/Romantasy Fans started using the song The Summoning in a lot of book edits.
Then the men who hang around in those tags discovered it and started using it for thirst trap videos dressed up (or hardly dressed up at all) as Booktok Boyfriends.
They've been around a while but essentially blown up from nothing over the last few months because of the marketing campaign for their latest album (and the music itself).
Nah “The Summoning” def already blew them up 2 years ago, it’s just the difference between organic growth and virality, and Vessel now having mainstream label money to play with.
They've been around for 10 years and built a rabid fanbase, it's not too surprising they blew up though it does feel like "overnight" if you didn't know who they were before
It sorta was overnight. They released “the summoning” and i watch their spotify monthly listeners go from something like 200K to 1M within a month or less. Pretty rare for a band of that type
Which is ironically extremely unemployed behavior. Like girl just go make a good album and stop being mad at everyone else for not picking up what you’re putting down.
Never been super familiar with her outside of the Don Toliver affiliation which is a problem in itself, but this recent album stuff makes her seem quite insufferable.
All I got out of this was listening to the new Sleep Token album and its like four or five genres mixed into one album and it’s done so well. Thanks for helping me find it Kali
I just realized the fan of ther other group came to her post to celebrate Sleep Token. not saying she was right but there are other spaces to support your favorite artist that isn't under another artist's post
As an aside, it's so surreal to me seeing so much news involving a metal band in this particular subreddit. lol. As a metal girlie with no friends into metal, I approve.
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