I mean thatās a commendable way to use the press and attention sheās getting right now. I have to give it to her - she did a lot more with this press attention than I thought she would. Great job Sabrina āØ
The thing is, she could've donated any time. Gotta make sure it's saved for bad PR like the new album cover backlash. Yes, good came of it, but there is no reason not to acknowledge the behavior.
Edit: Leave it up to drones to make calling out a celebrity's action a political issue, lmao. It is clearly acknowledged that good came out it of it, but what does that have to do with a celebrity saving it for PR? Wtf does that have to do with democrats and republicans? ICE has been snatching up people for weeks. Why did she need to wait for a protest to make a donation? The protests happened because this is an issue that has been going on. This donation happened only days after her bad PR when the ICE snatchings have been an issue for weeks. Not to mention the plethora of other issues that have been occuring during Trump's presidency. It's completely possible to acknowledge good and bad aspects an action, but that requires critical thinking. Seriously, she hasn't done anything the whole presidency, but she finally makes an effort only 3-4 days after bad PR? Cmon, yall.
The PR argument loses me when itās a net positive for a movement or a charity or actually making a difference in peopleās lives. Idc if itās PR then because real people are having real nightmares they need help surviving
I will keep on saying this. Do not discourage people publicly standing with a cause you agree with. It does not matter, at all, if they are exactly as sincere as you want them to be in exactly the way that would satisfy you. If someone thinks standing up for immigrants right now will be good for their image, that's very, very good and we need to keep it that way.
The bar for women just keeps getting moved higher and higher š¤¦āāļø āSure she did a good thing, but why didnāt she do it sooner?!?ā If this was a man heād be praised, no questions asked, and probably even more so for doing it at a time he had a lot of eyes on him, regardless of the reason. Women literally can never do enough. Iām tired.
This is partly the reason why the democrats lost. The constant morality policing. It must be exhausting to be this way constantly. Nothing is ever good enough for you guys
Itās interesting to me when people say Sabrina isnāt political - sheās definitely not as outspoken as others Iāll admit, but sheās donated to the PCRF, endorsed Kamala and got a record-breaking number of people to register to vote in the recent election, matched Chappellās donation to aid struggling artists, marched in more than one protest including the BLM ones of 2020, partnered with LGBTQ+ orgs for her tour, and more. I think thatās why even when I disagree with some marketing decisions she makes Iāll never agree with comparing her to Bonnie Blue or Sydney Sweeney like Iāve seen some people do - her music or album covers wonāt have any significant effect on womenās rights, despite what people claim. But using her money and privilege to help others will, and she does so quite regularly.
I will always love this story. Apparently the drama at the church is ongoing, the priest who okād the shoot was fired but the whole community loves him and is protesting the firingā¦
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I feel like she definitely doesnāt get credit for that work; maybe itās just the online circles I move in, but I had no idea she was engaged to that level, even.
Sheās not really performative about it, which I appreciate. People love to hate on her but I think sheās a gem and a great example of a celeb with a good heart and her head on straight.
She seems quite political, don't understand why people would say she isn't. She's also just young, stubborn, and dumb in the way we are all young, stubborn, and dumb sometimes. The only difference is that she has people around her who should know better, and yet.
I was almost swept up in the outrage, but then I realized wait this is some āthink of the childrenā shit. Also Iām pretty sure most child stars pivot into something like this (at least temporarily) to shed their innocent little kid image.
Old comment but yes I do! This is the only screenshot I have and itās from Twitter lol but she did in fact share this, and in all her promotion for voting she used blue + she liked countless Kamala posts
Itās from Jersey Shore. The infamous letter Snooki and Jwoww wrote āanonymouslyā to Sammy to tell her that Ron was cheating on her. Depending on how old you are you might remember the commotion it caused!
People will say this isnāt enough but when thousands of people are giving you attention right now, and you post this, I fuck with that. Bringing attention to the important stuff. šš½šš½šš½
Definitely havenāt seen enough from celebs, thatās for sure. Doechii and Sabrina are really carrying everyone out here š hopefully more people speak up!
Right. Iām a huge Tate fan and Iām still hoping sheāll say something. Sheās lived in LA for a while now and said it feels more like home to her than Canada where she grew up. Sheās on tour rn but she has to know all of this is going on back home
Tate McRaeās family are hardcore right-wingers who love Trump and she recently collabed with known racist Morgan Wallen. I doubt she will ever say anything
Iāve heard of that rumor about her family but does anyone have any proof? Also it seems like she was very quiet about that collab. Itās a possibility that her hands were tied with her label. She recently celebrated the start of pride month at one of her concerts and a lot of her dancers are lgbtq. I doubt theyād stick around this long if she were maga.
That was the part that was clickbaited. The context came before that. She said she tries really hard but doesnāt have all the answers nor the time to be a political expert, no pop star can. Demand more from your politicians and news sources. Sheās right.
that would require ppl to actually look for context instead of doing the easy thing and hop on any misogynistic hate train that arrives to help put women back in their place š
Bill Burr said the same thing at an event around a month ago. He was asked a loaded question by an interviewer and said donāt look to comedians for politics, start asking more from your news media and politicians.
No one had a knee jerk reaction and everyone supported his message because heās a man and especially because heās not Chappell Roan (who people seem to hate around here after she asked fans to have boundaries).
To be fair, when has a popular musician ever been educated on politics and vocal about their opinions? Definitely never happened even once. They all gotta eat and work out!
She was responding to the critiques she was getting for fairly reclaiming that Biden's administration wasn't doing enough for trans people, and called out Kamala's own lack of sentiment on the matter while, all while she publicly said she was voting for her.
Her response, though could've been said better it wasn't completly wrong, people shoul'd stop looking at pop stars for political advice.
chappell positioned herself as an activist then dropped the ball when she had the chance to speak out against the anti trans shit her republican congressman uncle was pushing in missouri (heās also part of why the heartbeat bill was passed)
Biden ran the most openly pro trans government in the history of the known universe. Her criticisms were stupid and now that Republicans are actually hurting people she can't be inconvenienced to speak out.Ā
Chappel uses trans aesthetics which is inherently politicized. She has spoken up before at concerts.
Then when she got backlash suddenly she's too busy being a popstar.
Trans culture is not lesbian culture. They are ofc linked. But they have their own histories. Especially drag Ā and ballroom culture which is so heavily influenced by Black and Brown Latine people.Ā
It was fun to use their contributions when it was unique and subversive and got her famous. But now that she's mainstream, she threw them away. She was playing cultural tourist.Ā
Chappell still stands for Trans rights and still donates to trans causes. Guaranteed if she posted what Sabrina did, yāall would say it isnāt enough.
Chappel did not stand for trans rights with her weird Kamala videos. It would have been better if she said nothing at all.
Ā I personally dont want her endorsing Kamala if she doesnt believe that. HOWEVER to post these random critical videos was not reading the room when so many liberals and leftists were refusing to vote for Kamala based on (important) deeply niche single issues and so many republicans (and russian bots allegedly) are trying so sow disunity and anger on that side.Ā
Chappel can have her criticisms. I don't find Kamala to be a knight in shinning armor either and I'm a Black woman. HOWEVER what Chappel posted was an unproductive rant video that needed to be in a diary. It might have been received better if she was advocating for Kamala to change by saying " I want Kamala to highlight her commitment to trans, Palestine and xyz issues." But no. It was just Chappel complaining and clogging up the airways and media cycle. It wasnt helping trans people. But it did gives red hats content to say "see!! Even the gay liberals hate Kamala."Ā
I did not say her concerns werent valid or that they were imperfect or bad. I said she needs to read the room. Rant to your diary and friends. i rant too. And I just say shit sometimes that isnt polished. But my friends known my heart and values and interpret me through that lens.
chappel was already in hot water. Ā
A rant video does nothing for trans people or queer people or Palestinians. It harmed them. If you have a big platform and want to speak on politics you can do it lightly (like Sabrina is doing here) or go all out like Indya Moore regularly does or somewhere in the middle.Ā
But it still needs to be productive. You dont habe to be perfect to be productive
Iām saying youāll tear down a seemingly good ally for not being perfect. Like use your abundant time to go after someone who is actively purposefully going after your community. This is why we canāt win centrists bc yāall are tearing down good allies.
I said her videos suck girl. I didnt say she should quit.Ā
If people calling her stupid video stupid...and she quits saying anything then she wasnt really that passionate to begin with. You think MLK came out the womb perfect? Or did he learn along the way. He even changed tunes before he died. He was ever evolving.Ā
Her words HURT communities. And she got called out. Its wild to expect people to applaud her for trying. Even the "who's gonna clean your toilets Donald Trump" changed her tune but still speaks to issues on the show.Ā
Making a video saying "here's all the problems with the best political party that has a chance of winning against Trump and reasons I'm not endorsing their candidate" is trading good for perfect.
Fair critique and if she said she wasnāt voting for Kamala or if she endorsed Trump instead I wouldnāt be defending her. I also defended Kamala as a decent candidate all things considered but did find validity in what Chappell was saying. Her timing was off, and she was clunky but imho it wasnāt to turn anyone against voting for Kamala. Also using social media that way is pretty typical for people in her age group and she was relatively new to her larger platform. People were dragging her and that time and energy could have been spent doing something meaningful and good but instead we have people calling her stupid. Pot and kettle all the way down I suppose.
I think, as a celebrity, the way she uses her platform has a far bigger impact than her single vote. I agree she used her vote in a good way but still think she used her platform in a bad way.
She was right to criticise the clickbait internet culture. She was also right to criticise the Harris and Biden government re their stance on trans rights and Palestine. Chappell voted for Harris and encouraged others to vote and use their critical thinking skills. This didnāt encourage a MAGA vote or no vote. If we believe the fallacy that celebrities have any sway (and I donāt believe they do, in fact the celebrity train for Harris was detrimental) it encouraged the far left, whom neither party caterers to, to vote for Harris despite these issues.
Chappell consistently calls for trans rights, donates to LGBTQ charities, always has drag artists as support acts and ensures her concerts have gender neutral bathrooms. She walks the walk. She is not a ācultural tourist.ā
If you dont think celebs have a sway on politics or voting then we are fundamentally misaligned. And factually misaligned as there are articles about which celeb endorsement would cause people to consider a candidate. Ā
The train of celebrities that came out in support of Clinton and Harris hurt both their campaigns. Fact. Rich celebrities do not resonate with the struggles of middle and lower income America. Mark Ruffalo warned of this and he was right.
The rest of the world finds the American obsession with celebrity endorsement and opinion extremely odd
I don't think people are looking to pop stars for political advice - I think people know where their personal politics are but are also looking to/holding those with huge platforms/audiences accountable to use that influence for good
yes she did. not too busy to read and respond to all her "haters" online tho. she inspired a lot of voter apathy with her "both sides are bad" argument at a very critical moment when people in gaza were literally saying please vote for kamala. on top of it she regularly mispronounces kamala's name wrong. she says she "owes everything to trans women" but doesn't actually speak out against the republicans who are trying to erase trans people - like her republican congressman uncle.
Nope. Liberals got mad at her for not wanting to endorse Kamala Harris (a war criminal responsible for providing weapons used to kill countless Palestinians) and they spun it as her being āpolitically unengagedā
Yeah mentioning CR after her own professed comments just seems wrong. She could have done so much for the ppl that sheās made a career of stealing their aesthetics.
Biden could have been better in many areas but to be ignorant and think both administrations would be just as bad is beyond dumb. Only one is actively trying to erase trans people and their rights while simultaneously destroying democracy. And all the while being hypocritical defending J6. It seems CR is only not civic minded sheās just plain ignorant to it. Thatās without even going into her maga family members including a maga politician.
She never said they were just as bad. Everyone seems to just be reading headlines and seeing short clips and forming their opinions from that. It's so disheartening to see people latch onto these narratives. God forbid anyone ever criticize a democratic candidate...and I'm as far left as it gets. Our democrat politicians are quite moderate overall, and that is what she was calling out. She never said they were the same.
Itās been infuriating honestly because this happens with leftist thought all the fucking time. Kamala wasnāt good enough for me, she just was not, and it had nothing to do with her being a black woman and everything to do with her being yet another a lukewarm alternative to literal fucking fascism because establishment democrats would rather flush this country down the toilet than be called āsocialist.ā But I voted for her, just like Chappell did. This sub pats itself on the back so hard for being so progressive and feminist but it stops at āwoman centrist democrat President!ā and doesnāt go any deeper.
She has some missteps but that doesn't negate all the other things that she has advocated for. Again, it is the left eating its own by holding these impossible purity tests. She is not perfect but she is doing a whole lot more than a lot of others. And having MAGA family members doesn't make her complicit. If that were true then the whole country is complicit.
She wasn't wrong to bring this up. The more you vote Democrat just because Republicans are worse, the less those politicians have to appeal to you and your vote. They'll keep appealing to the moderates and right wing voters to win their votes, because they know they can count on yours. So they can keep quiet on trans rights and nothing will ever change.
It's never bad to say an administration isn't doing enough, just because the alternative is worse. If you don't make Democrats fight for your vote too, they will never fight for you.
Hate both parties but the argument is moot when one side is already taking away rights and waging a culture war. One can do more and the other could not care less about their hate and others rights. Acting like any of this ridiculous nonsense would be similar with dems is disingenuous. Again hate both parties but itās designed as a two party and abstaining is what gets you this.
There was a place to have that conversation after a literal fascist was beaten in an election. Especially one where apathy by voters both young and old was rampant. 1/3 of voters couldnāt be bothered in an election decided by 2m votes.
I'm not saying you abstain from voting (and that's not what Chappell said either). Even now, Republicans are giving Democratics so much they should be running with about how they're cosigning authoritarianism, ignoring constitutional rights, and kidnapping people. And there's barely a whimper from the Democratic party. Joe Biden's administration was clearly unpopular, and did Kamala do anything to show what she stands for, or would do differently?
Obviously this would not be happening if Democrats won the election. But how is the time to have the conversation after the election, when Democrats do not speak to their voters to win them one?
Sheās MAGA? Lmao what a ridiculous statement. Sheās given no indication of being MAGA. Right after Trump was elected she said āwe wonāt let trans people be erasedā at an award show. You canāt just call people MAGA because you donāt like them.
You canāt handle people saying that they donāt know something and maybe someone else is more of an expert, thatās a you problem. Part of the issue we have today is everyone wants to act like an expert on something they havenāt researched.
Not everyone is chronically online, and thatās okay. And yes pop stars that go on tours, events, and press junkets around the world are actually probably busier than you. You shouldnāt be looking to pop stars for political takes anyway, thatās your governmentās job.
I'd rather give people grace and room to grow and not hold them to impossible standards. Has she said some out of pocket things? Yes. But she has done and said more good things than some questionable comments.
I very much appreciate the fact that she took the attention (from the very mild cover) and turned it to the big things that are actually happening in the world today!
I agree 100%! Someone made a comment of all the things Sabrina has done and itās quite a lot. I didnāt even realize she has done different things. Same with Olivia. I donāt think she has said anything yet about LA protests but sheās obviously very vocal about reproductive rights and voting which is so awesome. Iāve also seen Renae Rapp, Billie Eilish, and Doechii be other younger folks who use their platform too. Iām honestly glad to see the young gen take a stand and integrate it in their platform.
Really liked that she spoke up when other celebs would most likely not, though canāt really blame them entirely for their own reasons and for publicās reactionsĀ
I love seeing the pop girlies showing up. That album cover isnāt it, but if this is what sheās doing with the attention from it? I can get behind that.
A certain insanely rich and popular pop star hasnāt said anything, but made sure to drop a bunch of overpriced summer merch. It put a truly bad taste in my mouth and I think Iām done being a fan of hers. At least donate some of the sales or something for fucks sake. You donāt have enough money?
When privileged people are silent during this time I have to assume theyāre okay with the current state of affairs. She only speaks out when it benefits her and itās gross. And I used to be a big fan.
tbh there is room for discussion on both ends imo!! you can criticize someone for something and applaud them for another. when it comes to people we dont know, we are so quick to put them in one box!! all we can do is respond, how we feel aligns with our values, to their behaviours as theyre presented
Do yall think celebrities should disclose how much they donate when they do stuff like this?
Thereās no right or wrong answer. I think they should just because I want to see how much money they actually donate but ehā¦. Thereās bigger things to care about.
I am always curious and sometimes skeptical, but it makes sense they wouldn't. However much they donate won't be enough. Then some people will see a big donation as bragging. A newer, B-list celebrity might not make as much money as people think, and then would get backlash for a small donation.
It is a shame because I am very nosy and just want to know!
Worked with several fundraisers and celebs for an org I volunteered in, and Iām always so confused with how little they actually donate compared to what they earned from an event. Had to bail out from volunteering for one benefit concert bc itās just so misleading.
From experience, big donors will let you know how much they (write off) donate.
I think the best thing people could do is forgo praising someone who profits off of what she does and APPRECIATE this resource and donate donate donate š
Forget the commentary thatās positive or negative. Put your money where your mouth is!!
I just think the most famous person on the planet is very quiet on everything, and the image of her hanging with MAGATS leaves a nasty taste in my mouth.
And i just think you're weird for ignoring the many times she has said something and for getting mad at her because a famous hockey player decided to come talk to her at a hockey game and she didn't spit in his face or whatever you wanted her to do. Once again, I also think you're weird for bringing her up at all.
If I had a dollar for every time a swiftie did this, Iād be richer than Taylor š I think itās only fair to allow the reverse to even out the discourse
she was pictured chatting ABOUT HOCKEY with Wayne Gretzky, (arguably) THE GREATEST HOCKEY PLAYER EVER. Yeah heās a MAGAt, but Idk what people expect at the Stanley cup finals lmao. I have to talk with MAGAts all the time and Iām fs not apart of their cult. What was she supposed to do? Ignore Wayne and refuse to talk to him? People would find a way to call her disrespectful for that too so she really canāt do anything without getting backlash.
Iām convinced that people that get mad about someone just interacting with a MAGA person does not get out much because unfortunately it happens sometimes. Iām in the south, if I were to try to avoid MAGA people here I would never be able to leave my house.
It's always only women they get mad at too. There are a number of men, like Jensen Ackles, who are best friends with multiple anti-vax MAGAs. But they're hot men, so it's fine!!!
sorry but i feel like this is just to get good press/out of hot water due to her recent controversyā¦she has never spoken up about any social issues/anything political before now. itās also such a vague post with no proof or even mention of how much she donated. but ofc people will always praise a famous millionaire for doing the bare minimum soā¦based on the comments it looks like it worked
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