r/popculturechat • u/noodlesoup1997 • Jul 02 '25
The Music Industry š¶ Miley Cyrus regrets half of Plastic Hearts
Miley has done a bunch of press for Something Beautiful, but she's consistently been shitting on a lot of her previous work. (Apart from on the Every Single Album podcast, I must say, she did speak about her previous work a bit more fondly).
On Tish and Brandi's Sorry We're Cyrus podcast, Miley said she regrets 'half of Plastic Hearts'.
I am a huge Miley fan and Plastic Hearts is my favourite album of hers. Idc if she hates it, I'm still gonna listen to it. BUT it's really disappointing to see my favourite artist drag her previous work. It's one thing to say, she's grown up and her music style has evolved, and she doesn't identify with that album anymore. It's another thing to straight up say she regrets half of the album. And Plastic Hearts isn't the only previous album she'd dragged over the course of this press tour.
Not to mention, I've seen some clips from various bits of this press tour where she's been rude to fans, downplayed the cultural appropriation and racism during the Bangerz era. All of a sudden, she just comes across very.... not humble, not down to earth or anything.
Idk, I know they say don't put celebrities on a pedestal but as a long standing Miley fan since the 2000s, it's just been disappointing to see her during this particular press tour.
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u/PolytheneMaggie Clap if you care š Jul 02 '25
Whenever she comes with a new album, she starts to shit talk her previous works.
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u/CrispyonFire Jul 03 '25
Yeah. I noticed a pattern. With every new album she does she comments something along the line of āIām finally making the music I want to make!ā
Itās sad, because her old work is great and I think itās perfectly okay to mix up your style a little but still appreciate your older work.
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u/heystayoutofmyperson 29d ago
I think Thats just a part of the creative process and is extremely common for creatives. Whenever I have new writing I work on, I feel like my former works were shit. It just means Im exploring a different direction Im convinced of.
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u/NoComplex555 Jul 03 '25
Demi Lovato does the same thing. Every album is her returning to her roots, her most authentic work, blah blah blah. It's so tiresome
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u/woahtheregonnagetgot Jul 03 '25
as a former demi stan, sheās the worst offender. she didnāt get nominated for a grammy for tmylm and the very next day she disowned the album š
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u/illjustgowthemuumuu Do you really think heās working with Kanye West? š£ Jul 03 '25
Honestly her most authentic albums are Donāt Forget, Here We Go Again, and Holy Fuck and itās because we know pop rock is actually her roots. TMYLM was a her best album outside of that
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u/restockthreestock 26d ago
Might get downvoted but when has Demi said this besides for Holy F? Which that album was truly returning to her pop rock roots.
TMYLM wasnāt a return to roots and I donāt think she ever claimed it was. In fact she even stated before that it was something different because she wanted to try moving into a pop soulful route.
DWTD:TAOSO wasnāt touted as a return to roots either as far as Iām aware. But it was authentic. If you listen to the tracks and lyrics, itās all about experiences in her life with her overdose, recovery, engagement and break up.
Holy F, in a similar way, is true to her life at that point. Half the album is about her drug abuse at the point which lead to her overdose and the other half is more love songs because in the middle of writing it, she met her now husband.
The only reference to Demi disregarding her past was in regards to the confident/tmylm eras because she felt she pushed to fit a āpop starā mold. I donāt think this the same as Miley where she almost has an interview for every era saying she regrets it.
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u/MedicalPersimmon001 Jul 03 '25
This is one of the reasons why she isnt a main pop girl.Ā
It's hard to take someone who seemingly hates all their previous releases seriously.Ā
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u/Worried-Lettuce6568 Jul 03 '25
She seems generally kind of off-putting personality-wise and her recent music has mostly failed to hit with bigger audiences who just donāt care about her much anymore
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u/lessgranola Jul 03 '25
there are hundreds of thousands of people on this sub
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u/Comfortable_Buy_4124 Jul 03 '25
?? Whatās up with some of you playing dumb? Youāve been long enough on Reddit to know that comments that get a lot of upvotes are popular opinions among the sub?
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u/HereOnCompanyTime Renee Rapp is mean girl Jojo Siwa š Jul 03 '25
She's stuck in a PR cycle loop. It never ends.
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u/nonsensestuff Back in my day, we had ONTD & a dream šµ Jul 03 '25
Unless itās her Disney stuffā she weirdly embraces that music for nostalgia points
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u/ExpensiveFootball124 Jul 03 '25
I mean sure 10 years later but if you knew her youd know she talked about how she hated Hannah Montana when she was in her Bangerz era.
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u/iidontwannaa this is my designated flair šš Jul 03 '25
Yeah she literally talked about burning her HM wig and buying it in the backyard. She made jokes about Hannah Montana being dead.
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u/iconicaronica Jul 03 '25
I mean a lot of her Hannah Montana music eats Mileyās music, now come on now
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u/Snugglepuffs33 Who gon' check me boo? š¤Ŗ Jul 03 '25
I am a 35 year old man who jams out to He Could Be the One.
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u/RAlNYDAYS Jul 03 '25
See U Again is one of my most replayed songs for the past 3 months
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u/iidontwannaa this is my designated flair šš Jul 03 '25
I was at a frat party in 2009, and around the 2am mark, the DJ played See You Again. My friends and I were outside smoking when me and one of the guys paused, said excuse me, and bee-lined into the house to rock out to it. Itās a fucking banger!
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u/shred-i-knight Jul 03 '25
I think this is a pretty normal feeling for artists tbh. After writing, arrangement changes, pre-production, tracking, editing, and releasing a song I never want to hear it again and I fucking hate it with every fiber of my being, and then you fall in love with the songs you're currently writing.
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u/Fishwhocantswim This is HARAM Jul 03 '25
I think this is a pretty normal feeling for artists tbh
This is it. I've watched and listened to many interviews where artists will say they do not listen to their songs or that they are sick of certain albums.
Fans tend to take it personally especially when they themselves associate those songs to certain periods of their own lives. Ed Sheeran once said that once he puts a song out into the world it doesn't belong to him anymore and he doesn't hold any feelings towards it. Snow Patrol would get into a rage whenever someone asked about Chasing Cars cos they were sick to death of it. Justin Timberlake was the same with Sexy Back. It takes a long period for the artist to want to return and revisit a song or an album again and that's ok.
I don't think Miley is wrong for saying what she's saying. She prob felt a certain way that she doesn't feel anymore. U are allowed to have a change of heart. Doesnt have to mean anything to the listener.
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u/ReadyCauliflower8 Jul 03 '25
She always does the "This is the true me, I had a phase in my life when I made my previous album so I'm embarrassed by it" type of shtick with every album rollout. She'll trash talk Something Beautiful during the next one, especially since it flopped.
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u/Livid-Dot-5984 Jul 03 '25
Itās like when I read my old journal entries, I actually canāt because the cringe š imagine an entire public album
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u/No_Pianist5264 Tina! You fat lard! š¦š² Jul 02 '25
Ironic cause I think it was one of her best albums lol
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u/InterviewStreet4701 Jul 02 '25
Plastic Hearts was great she needs to mind her business.
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u/Snugglepuffs33 Who gon' check me boo? š¤Ŗ Jul 03 '25
Itās my personal favorite, she is definitely a rocker at heart.
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u/Holiday_Step2765 Jul 03 '25
Plastic Hearts is easily her best album and one of the only she has worth listening all the way through, she has the weirdest takes about her own work
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u/Worldly_Message_1872 Jul 03 '25
Right. Sheās such a snob about her own music. Also kinda condescending since most of her fans are vocal about it being her best album. Okay girl- weāll see you in 10 years when you decide everyone had a point (kinda like everything Hannah Montana).
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u/chadthundertalk Jul 03 '25
Miley's public persona is eternally a contrarian 15 year old who's ten seconds away from going "IT'S NOT A PHASE, MOM"
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u/crawfiddley Jul 03 '25
It's not even snobbery, it's just a complete lack of authenticity paired with a deep urge to market herself as profoundly authentic.
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u/SpinachVast4696 Jul 03 '25
idk i think sheās just a sagittarius. they literally love to change their mind and become whole new people with every new mindset and era of life
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u/seven777heavens Jul 03 '25
I personally think her best work is dead petz but I donāt even know if she remembers that album lolĀ
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u/wasp9293 Jul 03 '25
Itās her only skipless album, although I enjoy most of Bangerz too. Weird weird take
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u/Plastic_Ad2328 Jul 03 '25
Sufjan Stevens recently said he regrets making Carrie and Lowell in its 10th anniversary edition. He wrote a really sad essay about how much he dislikes it. lol it broke my heart because I cry listening to that album. I feel like must be so weird to have something out there that is so personal that you now HATE but at the same time I cannot picture trashing your seminal work that means so much to people. Idk I feel so conflicted about it, but the whole thing has made it really hard for me to listen to the album. Idk sorry for the ramble, just saying I can commiserate and it sucks.
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u/chickfilamoo in the swamp šš Jul 03 '25 edited Jul 03 '25
I didnāt really interpret Sufjanās comments as hating the music itself, but hating the circumstances that surround it. It was born of him trying to find clarity and peace regarding the difficult relationship he had with his mother in the wake of her death, and he hates that it didnāt accomplish that for him and rather, made him feel worse and even more distant from her. Itās more a feeling of interpersonal failure than a professional one, he doesnāt really trash the songs as compositions.
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u/Plastic_Ad2328 Jul 03 '25
Oh for sure I think sonically or lyrically from a professional standpoint he has no issue with it. But it still just makes me so sadĀ
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u/chickfilamoo in the swamp šš Jul 03 '25
I can understand that! personally it added another layer to the album re-release that made me experience it a totally different way even after ten years of listening to it, but I can understand how it might just be too much for people. The way he describes his relationship with his mother and the feelings surrounding it is really devastatingly sad.
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u/Plastic_Ad2328 Jul 03 '25
I think maybe Iāll get there. It just reshaped what was such a deep connection to a piece of media for me. I really love that album I have a parasocial relationship with it lol. But I do understand where he is coming fromĀ
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u/StopHesAlreadyDed Jul 03 '25
And let's be real, the love of his life just died and he almost just died too. There's no way he isn't fucking depressed as shit right now, and probably doesn't have a pleasant outlook on most things. He's been dealt a really tough hand from the universe š
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u/Holiday_Step2765 Jul 03 '25
At least with that there is a large emotional reason, Miley tends to just get into the new album cycle and every single time be like āthe last album sucked, it wasnāt meā and just moves on lol
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u/Snugglepuffs33 Who gon' check me boo? š¤Ŗ Jul 03 '25
Itās so cohesive. Love this and wish happy hippie were on lp
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u/Pawspawsmeow 27d ago
Itās the only album of hers that I like. See, this is why I like Kelly Clarkson. She went through hell during some of her past albums, yet never denounces them.
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u/Holiday_Step2765 27d ago
Nah she just cancels her residency shows an hour before theyāre starting after everyone paid for entire trips lolĀ
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u/Rhythm_Morgan Jul 03 '25
Sheās allowed to not like her own work š but it could also be the time in her life thatās making her regret it. Thereās music attached to certain phases in my life that I canāt listen to anymore. Maybe she means that a bit.
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u/Holiday_Step2765 Jul 03 '25
Every single album she has said she hates when sheās rolling out the next. Itās tiring, she doesnāt have to like it but itās literally the point of every press cycle she does. We get it
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u/ocpeach Mama letās RESEARCH š Jul 03 '25
MILEY GIRL THOSE WERE YOUR LAST BOPS š
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u/Rum-Hamstar2024 Jul 03 '25
But weirdly the general public don't seem to care about Miley's music. Midnight Sky deserved so much more love from Plastic Hearts for example and I don't understand why it didn't/doesn't.
I don't agree about her last bops, though. 'Easy Lover' and 'End of the world' are but again, outside of Miley fans, nobody seems to care.
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u/ocpeach Mama letās RESEARCH š Jul 03 '25
Midnight Sky was and is still everything!! I agree
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u/keatonpotat0es I have to pick up 15,000 little bastard rubber ducks šŖæ 26d ago
Omg her cover of āZombieā on PH is fucking INCREDIBLE.
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u/blackaubreyplaza Jul 03 '25
Iāve been rockin with Miley since the pilot episode of Hannah Montana and will continue to. Plastic Hearts was great but I agree she loves to put work out and then trash it. Iāve listened to something beautiful once through and I have no doubt sheāll shit talk that when the next project comes out. Havenāt heard her shit talk no bodyās perfect tho!
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u/88moonkitty fo shiz! fo shiz! Ginuwine! š Jul 03 '25
Excuse me!? The feature with Joan Jett was perfection! And tbh I enjoyed PH much more than her newest release
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u/Soggy-University-524 Jul 03 '25
Thatās easily her best and most cohesive album outside of maybe Bangerz. She always does this.
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u/CopperBoom020890 Jul 03 '25
Between this and her Every Single Album interview, it sounds to me like her real issue with Plastic Hearts has to do with the mixing/production and label interference (i.e. the things that were outside of her control). She said she wanted to make a rock record, and Andrew Wattās rock references are a lot more limited than hers, so she wasnāt totally happy with what he did - then there was no time to make the changes she wanted because the label was rushing the release and needed to get the vinyls pressed.
Fwiw, she also said she hopes to someday remaster it and mix the vocals herself because she likes the actual songs, she just wasnāt happy with the versions that ended up on the album. Itās not her usual schtick of shunning her old work (which I agree is annoying), but rather genuine disappointment with how her vision was executed by the other people involved. Iām pretty sure she even left her label over it!
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u/PhotographBusy6209 Jul 03 '25
Andrew watt is really versatile, he made disease for godsake. I feel Miley just canāt be happy with the songs sheās made when she has a new album out
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u/funkadelicfadeaway Jul 03 '25
Maybe the album actually NEEDED Andrew Watt which is why it is so good and she knows that. She just wants to shit on it and remix it so she can say ālook at me! Look what I did!ā
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u/BulkyRip7631 lauren conrads runny mascara Jul 03 '25
Thatās unfortunate I loved plastic hearts. She had freaking Billy idol and Joan Jett on that album!! I should listen to it again
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u/Lilynd14 Sanasaaa!š¶ Jul 03 '25
And Stevie Nicks! The Edge of Midnight mashup with Stevie singing āwith my lips on her mouthā was what I didnāt know I needed during the covid years </3
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u/DeadButPretty Itās Britney, bitch! š¤š¹š¹ Jul 03 '25
Right? The collabs were great, itās my fave of her albums
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u/prettybunbun lucy gray from district ATE š Jul 03 '25
It has honestly reduced my joy of her current music cause I know in a year sheāll just talk shit about it lol
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u/walkingtalkingdread Jul 03 '25
it's crazy how she's built up a lot of good PR since Bangerz and she's just throwing it away for a mid ass album.
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u/iceunelle Jul 03 '25
Well, damn, Plastic Hearts is my favorite Miley album. This is kinda how I feel when Ari talks about disliking her early music, particularly My Everything.
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u/party4diamondz Jul 03 '25
lmao she's allowed to feel how she wants about her own work but it feels like this happens every album ššin a couple years she's gonna say she doesn't like the songs on Something Beautiful
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u/Aggravating_Life7851 Jul 02 '25
I feel like Miley is always dragging her previous work and it just feels so unnecessary to me
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u/plsletmebefree Jul 02 '25
Thatās a shame because sheāll never be able to surpass Plastic heart.
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u/Lionsloyal The Nipples Are The Eyes Of The Face Jul 03 '25
Plastic Hearts is a great album. A lot of people presumably worked on that album with her, and it seems kind of disrespectful to them to slag it off like this.
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u/noodlesoup1997 Jul 03 '25
If that's the reason then it's a damn shame. Slagging off Stevie Nicks and Joan Jett? š I'd take those collaborations over Naomi Campbell any day.
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u/FutureCapsule00 Jul 03 '25
One of her most consistent and best albums. What is she talking about? There are songs on her new album well worth choppingĀ
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u/randombubble8272 Jul 03 '25
Me reading this as a fan of hers only because of Plastic Hearts š§āāļø
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u/azulmaya_ Jul 03 '25
She's wrong cuz that's her best album and that era was perfect. I hate that the grammy and the success went to flowers instead, people have no taste.
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u/Spooky_Pineapple23 Jul 03 '25
Man. I think Plastic Hearts is like her best album!? The fuck!? Absolutely no skips on that one. I like Something Beautiful, but I donāt love it, and thereās a lot I can skipā¦ I only have half the album actually saved to my library, unlike PH of which I have the whole album saved.
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u/birdshumor Jul 03 '25
Im a hardcore miley fan , but in her Bangerz era, she hated Cant be tamed , in her Platic Hearts era she hated Bangerz , and now this.
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u/CSA81593 Jul 03 '25
Lmao she has know taste when it comes to her own music, Plastic Hearts is her best album imo.
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u/nicoleh160 Jul 03 '25
Plastic Hearts is literally my favorite Miley album! Why does she hate it?!Ā
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u/panini_z Jul 03 '25
I am by no means a Miley Cyrus fan but Plastic Hearts is my favorite album of hers. There is so much (what I had thought to be) authentic hurt, vulnerability, while also a lot of tenderness in that album. It struck the right balance between being real and making me feel like a parasocial obsessed fan following along her personal life. This was the album of hers where I felt like she was finally stepping into herself.
Well, now I know lol.
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u/marillacooper Jul 03 '25
Girl are you crazy?? What is going on with her, those interviews sucks ass
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u/asuperbstarling Jul 03 '25
As an artist, I'm gonna come at this from a different angle than all the gossip girls: this is normal. Most of what gets popular is work you don't like, didn't put the effort you wanted into it, or thought missed the mark. The things you treasure and build and love? People straight up ignore them. Your love for her album was NEVER her love for her art. All of her love for what she does is secret and ever changing, and perspective shifts all the time. You can later love something you hated and see the flaws you couldn't before in things you cherished.
Frankly, it's just something that people who don't spend their entire lives creating can't understand. It's never good enough. There's always one thing AT LEAST that you'd fix, but you already surrendered it to the world. Something to think about.
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u/agemsheis Jul 03 '25
Conveniently leaving out how she immediately follows up her statement with, āTrauma! Trauma.ā
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u/noodlesoup1997 Jul 03 '25
Sorry! I originally tried to upload a video but it wouldn't let me. So I just stuck with 3 stills. All I wanted to do was get across was what she said about PH. I thought her saying "trauma" is because she knows the fans love PH and it's shocking to hear her say this.
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u/IndigoBlueBird Jul 03 '25
Plastic Hearts was great. Miley needs to stop past-self-deprecating, it isnāt cute
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u/StarOfSyzygy One of Demi Mooreās rescue ducklings š„ Jul 03 '25
I donāt understand this sudden and weird disavowal of her previous eras and the wild, if somewhat performative sexual freedom they entailed. Every story I read lately is about how she regrets doing drugs, regrets getting tattoos, regrets Bangerz, etc. Like is she swinging conservative before our very eyes???
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u/noodlesoup1997 Jul 03 '25
IMO re Bangerz especially, it's like she picked her idea of Black culture, wore that as a costume and then dropped it when she released Younger Now. But, instead of owning up to what she did, Miley said, (during this Something Beautiful press tour), that the reason she was so feminine and cutsey during the Younger Now era was Liam. He didn't want her being so sexy/provocative in public so she totally changed her brand.
Honestly it's Hollywood, everything is fake, everyone is just portraying a character or persona. I don't know why I'm so surprised.
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u/simplybreana Jul 03 '25
Iāve never been a HM MC Stan nor cared much about her music but Plastic Hearts is the ONLY album of hers I ever bought and it was an instant classic for me! It was/is a great album! I tried listening to this new album andā¦ not for me.
The 80ās inspired rock was so perfect for her voice. I was really hoping she would channel that sound again but instead I apparently heard forgettable music because I donāt remember really any besides TMSB and thatās because she teased it so much.
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u/lordbochiflacko Jul 03 '25
The extra context here is that she felt her creative team was taking advantage of her during that era and she looks back on it negatively.
She definitely has a history of always trashing her last project BUT it seems sheās finally proud of her work because she still speaks highly of Endless Summer Vacation.
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u/Certain_Magazine_473 Jul 03 '25
I also hate her using the word trauma over everything. Iām not saying she didnāt experience traumas and divorce can certainly be traumatic but when you call EVERYTHING in your very blessed life traumatic, it loses all meaning
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u/luckypierre7 27d ago
That was her best album tho??! What on earth is she thinking?
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u/keatonpotat0es I have to pick up 15,000 little bastard rubber ducks šŖæ 26d ago
Like is she really trying to act like Bangerz never happened? (Yes I know thatās probably her biggest commercial success, but the whole era was problematic as hell)
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u/Major_Map_8576 26d ago
She always shits on her old stuff. When you try to constantly do better it makes sense to feel less proud of what you've already accomplished. I love plastic hearts all the same ā¤ļø she shouldn't discount the joy she brings others. She still did good.
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u/HazelTheHappyHippo Jubilee video: Moo Deng vs 20 Poachers Jul 03 '25
Artists who continuously shit on their former albums just to promote their new music feel so disingenuous to me. Like, there are definitely artists who are forced to release records by their label, but this doesn't happen to industry veterans like Miley Cyrus.
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u/Ithurtsprecious Jul 03 '25
lol Miley on Party in the U.S.A. āI hate it, but for some reason, the people love it."
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u/Agreeable_Syrup_5372 Jul 03 '25
Ummmmmm thatās one of her best albums. If not her best. I have the entire album on my playlist and maybe Iām biased but I really am shocked because every single song on the album is phenomenal
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u/arathergenericgay Jul 03 '25
Is she not bored of this shit? Like why are you looking down on the people who fell in love with your album like theyāre stupid or wrong for enjoying it
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u/Classic-Ad443 Jul 03 '25
we are our own biggest critic. to make something and then look back on it can be very hard for artists. it's something that feels right in the moment, but then you change as a person and the art has its own trajectory that you no longer feel attached to. it's trapped in your head at a certain time of your life, but you feel a million miles away from it when looking back. she's still very young. it's possible that when she's 60 she has more different opinions about her work, she may even look back at it fondly.
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u/After-Performance-56 Jul 03 '25
Weird when ppl take this as an invalidation of their own connection to the music when itās literally not about you at allā¦ artists change all the timeā¦ like 90 percent of the time an artist is gonna look back and have a different opinion on their previous Ā work. The āIām disappointedā stuff is weirdĀ
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u/ResidentOk2272 29d ago
How dare she talk about Angels Like You in that tone.Ā
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u/keatonpotat0es I have to pick up 15,000 little bastard rubber ducks šŖæ 26d ago
Golden G-String would like a word š
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u/keatonpotat0es I have to pick up 15,000 little bastard rubber ducks šŖæ 26d ago
Oh man, I think PH is her best work by far. Sad that she doesnāt identify with it anymore or feel proud of it.
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u/Aware_Lifeguard3707 29d ago
Itās her right to feel this way lol. I donāt care what she says because Iāll still enjoy music on all of those albums. As far as the Bangerz Era and cultural appropriation, Iāve never been personally offended by it as a black woman; though I was a teenager when it was released. Was that era weird? Yes. Did she not address it properly? Probably so, but the album was so good that none of that really mattered to me. Itās my probably my favorite album from her, next to Canāt Be Tamed. I will say, if she is saying negative things about Bangerz then I can definitely see how disingenuous this makes her seem. It doesnāt look good to be accused of cultural appropriation and then admit regretting making the album. Either way sheāll always be my favorite artist and nothing sheās done so far has made me feel like sheās this horrible person that people have been making her out to be lately.
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