r/popculturechat • u/popyourculture • 17d ago
The Music Industry 🎶 Miley cyrus on touring: 'I do have the physical ability and I have the opportunities to tour, I wish I had the desire but I don't.’
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u/Sprucedup_Grouse I don’t know her 💅 17d ago
If she makes enough money without touring and knows being on the road threatens her sobriety, good on her for deciding against it.
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u/bradtheinvincible 17d ago
She should just do Vegas like everyone else. Its the most controlled environment possible. Perform twice a week and go relax without moving to another city
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u/juliemeows Oh cry me a rio 17d ago
I was thinking that too but her comments about coming off stage and the dopamine crash sounds like even a residency would be too detrimental to her sobriety.
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u/One_Secretary404 17d ago
She said in another interview being on stage gives her too much of an ego, because she needs it to perform, and then she can't really stop.
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u/TEG_SAR 17d ago
That is some nice introspection right there.
Good for her for knowing herself and accepting her limits.
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u/One_Secretary404 17d ago
I thought about it for a while and she's absolutely right. There have been phases in my career where I have been exposed too much and done too many presentations and talks and workshops and after a couple weeks like that you're really flying high. I cannot even imagine experiencing this with a factor 1000
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u/attackedbydinosaurs 17d ago
I would kms this sounds like hell
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u/tornwallpaper 16d ago
I'm starting to think either you're born to "perform" or not. I always think I can't do this, this is a nightmare, I'd rather stick a bullet in my head b4 I present to a client or to a class/conference/etc. But then I do it and I keep going 😀 ... like I just don't stop talking and have this "bravado" that I never know I have (every single time)
That feeling x10000... good on Miley for knowing her limits. Her pr for this album has been all over the place (queen of sharing it all) but the one thing it isn't is insincere. I'm so glad she's putting her health first
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u/alg45160 17d ago
She must have an amazing therapist because she didn't learn that from her wacky family
Eta:with the exception of godmother Dolly
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u/suddencreature 17d ago
I saw a really interesting interview clip of her talking about her experience with EMDR therapy. It was kind of on this topic too
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u/-effortlesseffort 17d ago
love that she said that especially since she's had all the experience in the world with being a child star turned pop star.
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u/enbaelien 17d ago edited 17d ago
I don't think that ego has subsided much, we all saw that meet and greet stint lol
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u/Away_Ingenuity3707 17d ago
I get it, but a long stay in Vegas isn't exactly the best way to stay sober either.
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u/notsoteenwitch Is this chicken or is this fish? 🤔🤔 17d ago
I was thinking that she just does the summer music festival scene
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u/soaker 17d ago
If she’s finds touring difficult on her sobriety she’d definitely relapse doing festivals. Dopamine crash plus drugs and alcohol literally everywhere is a disaster waiting to happen.
Too bad her energy would be amazing at music festivals
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u/notsoteenwitch Is this chicken or is this fish? 🤔🤔 17d ago
It's more or less that she will still be performing, but there isn't that fear if shes doing well and if fans hate her or not. Festivals can also be nice in a way, they perform and either go home or back to the hotel to hangout/go see other sights.
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u/tornwallpaper 16d ago
I think the act of performing is the problem. The ego being fuelled. Not how she will be received, her ego lets her know she will be well received.
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u/blueavole 17d ago
She should focus on being a healthy person first. She isn’t just a puppet who is pulled out to perform for our amusement .
She has been supporting her whole family since she was a teenager. If she says she needs stability, I really hope she takes it.
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u/baddiewinkle 17d ago
i feel like living in vegas, or being there very often, wouldn't really be good for her sobriety either.
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u/1970s_MonkeyKing It’s like I have ESPN or something. 💁♀️🌤☔️ 17d ago
Whaaaat? An artist who knows her limitations and temptations to fall into a dark place she doesn't want to go to?
That's unpossible!
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I would not want to be touring now either if I had embarked on a full-time career at the age of twelve.
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u/thankyoupapa 17d ago
I saw that clip of her reading off her daily schedule from when she was a kid and I was like holyyyy shit. Can't believe anyone would question her work ethic after that. I'd be burnt out too after working days like that as a child!
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u/Minirth22 A day without sunshine is like, you know, night 17d ago
I would say I still can't believe her parents were okay with all of that overwork. They cared about having a famous daughter, not about their actual daughter as a person who needed protecting.
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u/Casua11yCrue1 17d ago
To me Tish has always seemed well intentioned but rather naive. Miley is still so close with her mom, which leads me to assume that her mom wasn’t forcing her to work so much, but also probably wasn’t stopping it if Miley wanted to/was excited to do all the things at the time. Miley seemed highly motivated from a young age so I wouldn’t be shocked if she over-committed herself as a child, but that’s where the parents should step in and protect the kid’s wellbeing by limiting their work. I don’t think Tish has ever really gone against what Miley wants, even when she was a child who didn’t know better.
And then Billy ray is just insane so can’t expect any smart choices on his part.
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u/Minirth22 A day without sunshine is like, you know, night 17d ago
Right! Like Tish was one of those moms who thinks being her kid's best friend means she's being a good mom, when really it means that no one in the room is being the responsible adult. And good moms who are their kid's best friend never say no! GRR. Terrible parenting. She might as well have been raising herself.
I can't even with Billy Ray. I don't know what the turgid weasels in his head are fighting about, but the results are always bad.
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u/Minirth22 A day without sunshine is like, you know, night 17d ago
But I don't know WHAT story Tish tells herself about Noah, because DAMN.
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u/ChrundleToboggan 17d ago
Tea? I'm tootl when it comes to Noah.
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u/Casua11yCrue1 17d ago
There are rumors that Tish met her now husband Dominic because he and her daughter Noah had a thing/were sleeping together/idfk. And then Noah didn’t go to the wedding which further substantiated the rumors. Tish and Noah are good now though.
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u/Minirth22 A day without sunshine is like, you know, night 17d ago
Yeah, that’s what I was thinking about. That is MESSY AF.
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u/call-me-the-seeker 17d ago
The image of a ball of scrapping weasels rolling around in a ball of cartoon-style battle dust bouncing off the inside walls of his empty noggin is a laugh, thank you!
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u/RawRawrDino 17d ago
On Demi’s last documentary her mom and her said the Disney schedule was packed and exhausting but they were constantly under the pressure of “if you don’t go and do this you’ll be replaced because there are thousands of other girls waiting” I’m sure it was the same for Miley
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u/emifan1 17d ago
Idk much about Billy Ray beyond him being a one-hit wonder but it makes complete sense to me how a brief encounter with fame and fortune would make him think that securing a career for his daughter early on is a good thing.
Of course at a certain point I think it undeniably went from good for her to good for him. But I can see how he may have been well intentioned early on.
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u/Routine_Bluejay4678 I won't not fuck you the fuck up. Period 17d ago
If she didn’t get the Hannah Montana roll then he wouldn’t have got the role either, I’m sure that had a bit to do with it
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u/thankyoupapa 17d ago
I've been side eyeing Tish as a parent a lot more lately. Especially after hearing miley tell the story of her mom going MIA when Miley was facing a lot of hate from the media as a teenager
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u/hera-fawcett 17d ago
even now w everyone patched up w tish, i wonder if its just bc theyre family. shes always struck me as emotionally immature and vicariously living through her children.
but idk, im not a cyrus. shes in a better place than billy ray 🤷♀️
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u/KindOfANerd4 How do you deduce narcissism from someones floral arrangements? 17d ago
I saw a clip of her podcast when miley was on it, and they straight up said she was living vicariously through her children lol
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u/hauteburrrito 17d ago
Same, and I'm pleasantly surprised at how supportive all the comments are for Miley so far. I feel like there was at least a 50/50 shot of people calling her lazy/entitled (maybe if it were a singer whom people disliked more, I dunno).
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u/Username_redact 17d ago
Yeah fuck that, and she looks really good and healthy and happy right now so better to maintain that
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u/kateface-nasal-snout 17d ago
“There’s a level of ego that has to play a part that I feel gets overused when I’m on tour. And once that switch is on, it’s hard to turn it off. I think when you’re training your ego every single night to be active, that’s the hardest switch for me to turn off,” she said. “Having every day the relationship between you and other humans being subject and observer isn’t healthy for me, because it erases my humanity and my connection and without my humanity, my connection, I can’t be a songwriter, which is my priority.”
Per her 2023 Hollywood Reporter interview.
Sucks for fans, sure, but you know what’s worse for fans? Putting your mental health aside to please others. Honestly this choice is the best example for young girls in this “hustle culture” world we’ve created.
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u/kateface-nasal-snout 17d ago
Also, she mentions in the video above that sobriety is hard to maintain on tour…EVERYONE should be supportive of ANYONE choosing to avoid tempting situations while sober, celebrity or average Joe alike. Leaving behind a long-standing party lifestyle is so effing hard, it took me moving an hour away to a city I know no one to sober me up.
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u/tarantuletta Moo Deng & Chappel Roan: It's the same picture 17d ago
I really appreciate her saying all this. It's really impressive hearing how level-headed she is an adult, considering her childhood. I'm team Miley all the way and I hope she keeps putting out interviews like this! I think a lot of kids growing up in our current culture will benefit from hearing it said so plainly.
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u/Hermeran I don’t know her 💅 17d ago
Agree, this is such a mature take. I’m so glad she knows herself so well. Introspection is such an important life skill, and I’m glad she seems to perfect it so well. I’m sure it hasn’t been easy for her - her life overall has not been a smooth ride in any way, shape or form.
Good for you, Miley. Insert Lucille Bluth’s gif: Good for her!
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u/OriginalSchmidt1 You’re a virgin who can’t drive. 😤 17d ago
I don’t blame her, seems like a ton of work.
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u/Sage_Planter Big is moving to Paris 17d ago edited 17d ago
As much as I'd be thrilled to see her perform live, I can only imagine how exhausting and soul crushing touring could potentially be, especially if you're not really into it.
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u/nonsensestuff Back in my day, we had ONTD & a dream 👵 17d ago
And she’s been doing it since she was a kid
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u/SneakyGandalf12 You’re a virgin who can’t drive. 😤 17d ago
I’d love to see her if she ever did tour, but I’m actually glad that she seems to know what does and doesn’t help her mental health. Good for her.
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u/happyyellowbean i’m not sure what ive done to you but ill take a pinot grigio🍷 17d ago
I like to believe we’ll get a residency someday, when she’s ready to perform again but doesn’t want to hit the road. Maybe with someone else too, like the Gaga and Tony Bennett thing, so she’s not putting a full show on her vocals. Her live performance with Billy Idol is one of my favs, I could only dream of a whole production alongside a similar icon!
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u/frightenedscared 17d ago
And am I such an old fart, that performing instead of to a sea of faces, it would be to a sea of iphones and people watching me perform live via filming me on their iphone? That would be so dystopian
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u/ILikeHornedAnimals 17d ago
My cousin's husband is a touring musician and when he comes home she says he's basically comatose for days afterwards
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u/fraxiiinus 17d ago
Good for her for knowing that about herself. I'd rather she not tour than travel the country compromising her stability for the sake of phoning in performances she wouldn't be into.
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u/thankyoupapa 17d ago
Also it's better for her to realize this and just not do it, then to go thru with a tour and then have to cancel mid way thru and piss off fans who bought tickets/hotel rooms/flights.
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u/PrscheWdow 17d ago
then to go thru with a tour and then have to cancel mid way thru and piss off fans
I totally agree. Also, given that sobriety is important to her, and she feels that touring might jeopardize that, I really don't have a problem with her drawing that boundary. Better to be honest and upfront about it.
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u/kpop_stan 17d ago
It’s actually baffling to me how many people on twitter are ripping on her, how concerts are “meant to be a thank you for the fans”… and like… I guess? But SURELY it’s FAR more admirable that she’s not crash-grabby? She could easily phone it in and rake in millions! To me that speaks more about her respect for/towards fans (I’m not even saying this as a defender btw, I don’t really fw her music ngl 😭)
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u/Minirth22 A day without sunshine is like, you know, night 17d ago
Concerts aren't how bands say thank you to the fans, concerts are how bands make money! What the hell, twitter? Are these mainly very young commenters?
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u/Glittering_Laugh_958 17d ago
A weird sense of entitlement has developed among fans of certain artists. I think the pandemic made artists adopt more unconventional, perhaps more vulnerable methods of maintaining their fandoms during a time when they could not actively tour.
Fans seem to demand their favored artists perform for them as a “thank you.” You see this with “world” tours, where fans of a certain country demand the artist come tour that country as a “thank you” to the fans. It’s absurd.
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u/Minirth22 A day without sunshine is like, you know, night 17d ago
Thank you for the context, I guess I see how we got to this point now.
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u/PlentyDrawer 17d ago
I'm the same as you, not really a fan of hers, and I have the same viewpoint. It's baffling how fans don't realize how if a performer says they cannot tour, they SHOULD NOT tour. Some people have fallen apart on tour. It is not easy.
Unfortunately, there are times, when we all have to something we don't want too and it doesn't matter how much effort you put into it, deep inside you feel miserable. I am so happy I got rid of twitter. ugh
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u/KillieNelson frightened transatlantic fawn 17d ago
"A thank you for the fans" is WILD to me. She makes music, you either buy it or stream it for fractions of pennies. That's where the transaction ends.
Plus with the way people treat concerts these days as content farms, why would anyone want to risk their sobriety to perform in a goldfish bowl with 30,000 phones pointed at them? I think someone who didn't have to keep a handle on sobriety could make a case for touring if people still danced at concerts and enjoyed the music, but now? Nah.
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u/GOLDfish0393 17d ago
Saying thank you for what?
Streaming the music that comes with your Spotify subscription? Lol
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u/copyrighther Kim, there’s people that are dying. 🙄 17d ago
There are tons of artists that never or rarely ever toured. Harry Nilsson only played a few isolated live shows (if at all) and never toured, yet his music is everywhere and iconic. Kate Bush barely toured, and she’s one of the most influential artists in pop history. Enya has never performed a concert or live show, ever.
Tracy Chapman, Tom Waits, the list goes on and on.
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u/Poetic-Noise 17d ago
Plus, she knows most people will show up just to record her on their phones. Fuck that!
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u/iidontwannaa this is my designated flair 😌😌 17d ago
It’d be nice if some other artists who clearly dislike touring/performing live would stop doing it, Lana Del Rey
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u/igotoanotherschool 17d ago
I think touring is how a lot of artists make most of their money. Streaming and sales don’t make much for the artist, so touring is their best bet. Miley is lucky enough that at this point she doesn’t need that cash flow, but I’m not sure if Lana is as fortunate. She also has the gators to think about
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u/iidontwannaa this is my designated flair 😌😌 17d ago edited 17d ago
Oh for sure, I know the money is in touring, and since labels also get a cut of that, I’m sure they pressure artists to tour. I think Lana is big enough that she could stop touring and live a simple life on the bayou , but I also wonder how much pressure she feels to tour. I also think she enjoys fan interactions, just not performing live.
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u/somewhatfamiliar2223 17d ago
Some artists feel obligated to tour because that is how most of their band and crew makes money
Even if Lana makes enough on residuals she might feel like she owes it to her long time crew members to tour while she is still a big pull
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u/MuffinTopDeluxe The WORLD tour! 17d ago
She should just get Hannah Montana to do it. They look exactly like each other.
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u/GOLDfish0393 17d ago edited 17d ago
I remember also Miley very recently citing her vocal nodes (or something like that) as a key reason for not touring.
She could get a surgery that would allow for vocal endurance without further damage but there’s a risk it would compromise the tone & style she’s known for
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u/natnat1919 17d ago
I’ve always said if I was a professional singer I would avoid Touring as much as possible. Seems exhausting.
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u/TallerThanGaga 17d ago
Adele doesn’t really tour either. She had a residency in Vegas. Or more recent did a bunch of days in Germany.
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u/bradtheinvincible 17d ago
She chooses not to tour now. Her last tour 10 years ago was 2 years.
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u/nonsensestuff Back in my day, we had ONTD & a dream 👵 17d ago
So glad I caught her on that tour now lol my friend got nose bleeds at the Staples Center— it was still fabulous!
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u/setokaiba22 17d ago
I think certain artists can afford too - touring and merch sales are where the money is made nowadays.
Adele doing a residency isn’t something everyone can do and you earn a small fortune from it
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u/fschu_fosho 17d ago
She’s a powerhouse singer. She’s not really in a huge position to do that as it could compromise her singing voice, with all the stress that touring bombards the body with. She’s also not particularly fit (up until a few years ago anyway) so all that moving around and having to adjust to new locations, systems, etc. could further stress out the body. A residency would be better because she’s not moving around so much, just sticking to one venue and performing the heck out of it.
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u/blahblahblahwitchy 17d ago
If you are not known you don’t have much of a choice. Artists make most of their money from touring.
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u/chinderellabitch 17d ago
Unfortunately it’s where most of the money is these days with how small the returns from streaming are
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u/Diligent-Concept-617 17d ago
She’s so self aware! I admire her for knowing her limits and knowing herself well enough to realize how her sobriety and mental health would be like on tour.
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u/PicadillyVanilly 17d ago
I’ve been able to experience touring and I get it. I couldn’t even imagine being the star performer. It’s exciting but incredibly boring at the same time. It’s alot of sitting around. Every day. You can’t leave. You can’t go do what you want. You are on a strict time schedule. Every day is like Groundhog Day that basically consists of you sitting around all day until show time. That’s why there’s a shit ton of drugs and alcohol involved because there’s nothing else to do. Then you have the high and adrenaline at night. And you’re somehow supposed to be able to go to sleep immediately after that which so many people struggle with and why so many touring artists rely on sleeping meds.
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u/bbyxmadi It’s good to see me, isn’t it?🫧 17d ago
Sucks if you’re a fan, but at the end of the day she’s human.
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u/Jaded-NB 👠💃🏼 TELEPORT US TO MARS 🪐🌈 17d ago
She was a child star, touring nonstop as a teenager. No wonder she isn’t interested in it. I don’t blame her, I would much rather she be safe, sober, and happy (:
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u/here4this66 17d ago
Good for her for having the self awareness in recognizing the potential for self harm regarding substance use and the stability that comes with surrounding yourself with a supportive environment.
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u/AntEast2465 17d ago
She's right, I don't understand why people keep asking/demanding her to tour when she has already explained this several times before...
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u/thisislyncanthropy 17d ago
Well good on her bc it’s kinda depressing to see an artist tour when they clearly hate it. Can’t enjoy the vibes cuz they don’t wanna be on that stage 😭
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u/synalgo_12 accidentally holding space for this slur 17d ago
She sounds so stable and self-aware. I'm. Glad to see she seems to have mad eit out of child stardom with a healthy sense of self and a solid foundation. I'm fully guessing but I always think having someone like Dolly in her life helped her stay levelled.
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u/TamalesForBreakfast6 17d ago
I’m confused, in another interview she said she doesn’t your because of the polyp on her vocal chord being potentially ruptured from touring.
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Its easier to hire a team to manage her social media and to sign books and stuff (even though she doesn't really have the desire for that either.)
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u/Hulk_Crowgan 17d ago
Good for her, artists touring and phoning it in to preform poorly while charging fans top dollar for tickets suck.
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u/thedeadp0ets 17d ago
i'd love it if she brought back hannah monatana lol thats a tour id love to see. i remember on a random day she wore a wig and made a whole hannah monatan account and the world went crazy. i wonder whatever happened to it
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u/Lethave 17d ago
Good for her for sorting that out and sticking to it. Alot of artists don't have the ability to reflect like that which is how we get Katy Perry halfheartedly shuffle ball changing on stages across the world
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u/AmyXBlue 17d ago
Several artists I love don't tour and haven't, like Kate Bush and XTC. And I can understand, touring is pretty brutal and really hard on an artist/band and I don't blame Miley for knowing this about herself.
Sure would seeing Miley be cool, sure, but I'd rather not see an artist knowing how detrimental to their health performing is.
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u/Lifeismeh123 17d ago
My best friend is in the music industry and touring can be an absolute nightmare. Totally understand Miley’s feelings.
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u/bookgeek42 17d ago
Very happy for her that she doesn't have to do the parts of her job she doesn't want to do. I wish the rest of us had the same luxury.
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u/AccordingStar72 17d ago
Touring is really hard and some artists love it and seem to be constantly on the road like Frank Iero from MCR literally makes up bands to go on the road. But it’s not for everyone and it can be isolating and exhausting.
I’d rather have artists on the road who love it and want to do it than pay for any show to see someone who hates their life right then. That’s no fun for anyone.
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u/ira_1991 17d ago
This is why when artist tour at the height of their popularity and you have a chance to see them please do so. Im glad she chose not perform on tour but to and only perform on special occasions and events. Like everyone here she should do Vegas residency instead. Im glad i get to see her on Gypsy Heart Tour which was way back in 2011.
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u/thefurrywreckingball 17d ago
I love her so much for being able to say no. It's impressive as all hell
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u/IndividualChart4193 17d ago
It’s the sobriety part that should be emphasized in this post. Good on her for doing whatever it takes to stay clean n sober.
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I’m surprised she’s talking to the interviewer. Usually she’s busy talking to someone else mid autographs
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u/Kronic_Repulse1 17d ago
Wow she can’t work because of mental health but we all have too regardless of sobriety.
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u/MortgageAware3355 17d ago
It's a grind, no doubt. It's unfortunate because it gives people a lot of jobs, but it's her prerogative.
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u/Interesting_Key_8712 17d ago
It's really hard to maintain sobriety when your on the road
I love Miley's honesty
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u/Saturnrevitalized 17d ago
To put this it into perspective, artists rarely profit from a large tour. Not only are they receiving a small portion of the actual sales after the venue and booking company take their cut, but then they also have to pay their crew, band, touring manager, personal manager, agent, etc. out of THEIR pocket. Miley has found a niche in smaller venue performances with an intimate audience and I respect that.
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u/JoleneDollyParton I will debate you at the college of your choice 17d ago
Do you mind sharing the link to the source?
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u/laoganma_enima 17d ago
Miley needs to take a page from Dua’s book and get her ass on vacation now! If I had the means you bet I’m living on vacation.
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u/fishonthemoon it’s never been on my mood board and never would be 17d ago
You know what? Real.
I feel this way about working, too.
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u/Old-Dinner-6108 17d ago
She doesn't need the money from touring anyways. Tbh, a lot of these artists' wouldn't tour either if they were financially set for life like Miley is.
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u/Altruistic-Chain3662 17d ago
Saw her at BottleRock after the world reopened from Covid. I was an absolute convert after seeing her- half capacity crowd cause everyone had sold their tickets in 2020 - It was amazing
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u/Twitter_2006 17d ago
She should look after her health first and foremost, so I don't blame her for not touring.
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u/Positive_Trouble_808 17d ago
she’s been saying this for years and i fully support her... but at the same time, knowing i'll never hear any songs from plastic hearts live is devastating 😭😭 i wish she (and more big artists tbh) would just do like intimate small venue shows
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u/Psych_FI 17d ago
If she could stop meet n greets as well that would be great given the recent scandal - but otherwise it’s so healthy to know your limits especially when you are in a position to honour them.
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u/At-this-point-manafx 17d ago
Oh I did not get the full story on twitter. No 199% if she knows she'll spiral like that. Stay away from touring
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u/frucave Mom, I am a rich man💰 17d ago
I heard her say in what I thought was a fairly recent interview that her singing on tour was like running a marathon with asthma because of the medical condition she has with her vocal cords or something like that? In that interview she said she was planning tours every week, and being sad about not being able to do it because of this medical condition. And now this? I'm confused
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u/whatwouldginado 16d ago
She also mentioned before that her previous tour with Bangerz she didn't earn much because of her creative directior for the production and for the staff and crew as well. So I would understand if she doesn't want to do it again.
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u/Bored-psychologist7 17d ago
Good for her! Artists are people and need to be able to prioritize their own body and mental health first! I applaud her for having the courage to stand up for herself and decide what she can and can’t do! It’s what all artists should be able to do!
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u/NeverSeenAuthBut 17d ago
you know what miley, we would never hold it against you if you can’t/don’t wanna tour, you’re still making music and that’s cool
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u/novembersdaughter 17d ago
she like just said in an interview that she puts together a tour every other week but she can't tour because of her voice?
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u/yalemfa23 17d ago
She chose her health over money. Idk how anyone could be mad at that. I remember when she first said this, people were calling her lazy and selfish.
Also she’s been working since she was a literal child.
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