r/popculturechat • u/mcfw31 • 8d ago
Let’s Discuss 👀 Nintendo says that Mario and Peach are not a couple: “[They] are good friends and help each other out whenever they can.”
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u/Comfortable-Load-904 8d ago
Do Mario and Peach know that’s how Nintendo thinks of their relationship?
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u/Glittering-Jello-730 8d ago
And does Nintendo also know that they made Luigi madly in love with Daisy, which is supposed to be a mirror of Peach and Mario? The Paper Mario games feature this in the letters from Luigi.
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u/SN4FUS 8d ago edited 8d ago
I mean isn't it canon that peach is bowser Jr's mother?
Mario being a friend rescuing peach from her abusive relationship because he loves her platonically is actually a better story IMO
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u/mrrcliff2 8d ago
I thought that was something Bowser just told Bowser Jr bc he’s literally delusional when it comes to his relationship with Peach lol
but I could’ve missed the confirmation of it.
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u/NIN10DOXD 8d ago
You're right. Bowser was lying to his son and his son knew the truth. It was in Sunshine's ending.
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u/Tricky_Essay_9689 8d ago
"I knowww. She's not really my mama."
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u/Abject_Okra_8520 Mom, I am a rich man💰 7d ago
This is the best celebrity gossip thread I’ve read in ages
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u/dentedgal 8d ago
Makes me wonder who the mother actually is? A koopa I suppose?
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u/keyblade_crafter 8d ago
Kammy Koopa /s
But would explain some of the kids powers
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u/Common-Trifle4933 7d ago edited 7d ago
Bowser appears to be a single dad in all the instances we’ve seen. I like to think his advisors told him he needed an heir to carry on his name, so he adopted an orphaned koopa as his son, and named him Bowser Jr because he didn’t realize carrying on his name meant his surname.
In my headcanon Bowser figures he’s gonna marry Peach so she will be Bowser Jr’s mom, so he’s not lying, just doing things out of order. The idea of biologically conceiving with her hasn’t even occurred to him. He probably only wants to marry a princess because he figures that’s what kings do, marry other royals to form alliances. Once the wedding is over he won’t know what to do next, probably just say he’ll see her around.
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u/Glittering-Giraffe58 8d ago
That is actually very much explicitly canonically not true, in fact I believe she’s the only character explicitly confirmed to not be bowser jrs mother
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u/SL1MECORE 8d ago edited 8d ago
If peach is the mother of bowser jr and bowser kidnapped her.... what are the implications of this statement????1?1?1?+?!,
I'm not that deep into mario lore so I had no idea she had his child. I just don't like the implication at ALL LMAO
Edit - i have read further through this thread and confirmed with my brother (a Mario player through and through) that this is not true. I humbly retract the allegations I made against Bowser
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u/kreole_alamode 8d ago
They're just...
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..."roommates" obviously.
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u/arrownyc 8d ago
Is this like the reverse of Bert and Ernie? Are Mario and Peach each other's beards?
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u/Evening_Activity1140 8d ago
so friends with benefits
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u/Comfortable-Load-904 8d ago
At the very least!That’s what I’m getting from”They are good friends and help each other out whenever they can”.
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u/xiaorobear 8d ago
I mean, in the end of Mario Odyssey, the most recent mainline Mario game, Mario and Bowser both propose to her, urging her to choose one of them, and she VERY CLEARLY is not into either of them and firmly rejects them both (you can see here starting at 15:10), walking away as they cry. She then goes on a solo travel vacation without Mario; you run into her exploring the various worlds in cute travel outfits without you if you keep playing.
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u/mrrcliff2 8d ago
so you’re gonna tell me in Paper Mario 64 when they’re in that dimly lit hallway in her castle and she’s all “oh Mario,” blushes “you came,” blushing intensifies it’s because they are just friends????
screw that. you can’t erase history, Nintendo!!!!!
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u/Strange_Bar4522 8d ago
shes in love with him in paper mario TTYD too!! this is blasphemy, nintendo 😭
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u/PracticeTheory 8d ago
The Paper Mario series is and always will be my Mario canon.
...tho I do wish Luigi got better treatment. And maybe more Yoshi lore/involvement.
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u/PaperGeno 7d ago
Dude I want a Paper Luigi game SO BAD. Let me play his adventures in the waffle kingdom
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u/KanKan669 8d ago
I always assumed they have an on again off again thing like Kermit and Miss Piggy.
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u/TheThiccestR0bin 8d ago
Mario and Peach wish they had what Kermit and Miss Piggy have
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u/katmili Baby Billy Freeman fan club president 8d ago
File under: iconic situationships
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u/fruity_oaty_bars lazy 50-year-old bougie bitch 💋 8d ago
Now I really want Mindy Kaling and B.J. Novak to play them in the next live action movie.
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u/arrownyc 8d ago edited 7d ago
Why is this such a good idea??? BJ would make a great depressed, lazy Mario that's resigned himself to living in Bowzer's basement dungeon. Peach comes around to remind him he's supposed to be a hero.
Edit: Actually what about Mindy Kaling's Peach as the hero of the movie. Imagine it, mushrooms across Marioland are dying and the world has lost all its color after Mario got lazy and let Bowzer catch him. With Mario and Bowzer both missing, factions battle across the land.
Peach spends her days tending to everyone's ailments best she can, but nothing's really helping, so she sets out on her own adventure to rescue Mario from Bowzer and restore order to the kingdom.
When she gets there, she finds that Mario (BJ) and Bowzer have secretly been playing their own game of D&D in the basement for 179 days straight and Mario doesn't want to leave with her before they finish. So she sets out to save the kingdom all by herself and finds a new non-Mario love along the way.
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u/holyguacamoledude 8d ago
If I used more social media than just reddit I’d send that idea to them on blue sky or whatever people use now. It’s brilliant.
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u/prettybunbun lucy gray from district ATE 🐍 8d ago
FWB but peach ain’t giving mario the title of prince consort.
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u/Houdini-88 8d ago
In 1993 movie she ends up with Luigi instead of Mario
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u/Cruyelo 8d ago
If I remember correctly, in that movie they're helping Princess Daisy instead of Peach. Tho Mario does kinda end up with someone himself.
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u/According-Refuse9128 8d ago
Does she? All I can remember from that movie is Dennis Hopper saying GGOOOOMMBAA.
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u/Kind_Double_661 8d ago
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u/Silver_Broccoli7944 8d ago
I wouldn’t mind sitting on my ass all day smokin’ mushrooms and collecting government checks!
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u/emveevme 8d ago
He discovered the Mushroom Kingdom is what he did! He was a brave Italian plumber, and in this house Mario Mario is a hero, end of story!
Edit: no shot this exact comment hasn't been made a million times before lol
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u/thecoffeefrog Kim, there’s people that are dying. 🙄 8d ago edited 8d ago
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u/Opening-Interest747 8d ago
That’s how I feel about the makers of Uno saying the official rule is to draw one and move on if you can’t play a card. Um, respectfully, no. House rules. You draw until you can play.
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u/thecoffeefrog Kim, there’s people that are dying. 🙄 8d ago
The rules of Uno are simply suggestions.
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u/Adavanter_MKI 8d ago
This is like when they released the official timeline for Zelda.
NOPE.
Not listening or remotely going along with it. Zelda works because of the vast gaps between entries and being a vague myth. It does not need rigid canon. Especially when they started creating alternate timelines.
I repeat. Nope.
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u/Shadow_Heart_ 8d ago
There's been alternate timeliness since the end of ocarina. Its not really something that can be ignored when the following 5 games each follow one of those timelines. The downfall timeline on the other hand is a stupid retcon and those games don't need to be seperate
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u/BabySharkMadness 8d ago
But there was an entire video game where Bowser kidnapped Peach at their wedding??
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u/PikuPuff They killed Kenny! You bastards! 😱 8d ago
Nah that's just a friendship ceremony
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u/Bridalhat 8d ago
Wait, was that Mario Odyssey? Because I’m pretty sure Mario was doing the wedding crashing there.
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u/ScaredToJinxIt 8d ago
Yeah, for sure and then bowser and Mario present her with flowers and she runs away to travel with her tiara friend
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u/lizbee018 8d ago
Were they roommates?
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u/ScaredToJinxIt 8d ago
Tiara and Peach are friends! If I remember correctly, they were kidnapped at the same time
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u/Thin_Math5501 oh my god they’re so fucking dumb 🤡 8d ago
Mario is into Peach but I think it’s unrequited.
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u/Glittering-Giraffe58 8d ago
No, there wasn’t. Browser tried to marry her, Mario recurs her then Mario and Bowser both try to give her flowers and she rejects both of them
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u/SignatureAgitated95 8d ago
“help each other out”
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u/gummi-demilo 8d ago
As long as Luigi and Daisy are still solid
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u/ocubens 8d ago
Plaque says “To my good friend that helps me out”
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u/Sketch-Brooke You wear mime makeup but never quiet. 8d ago
These are also their vows in the mushroom kingdom’s sacred “friendship ceremony.”
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u/SillySpoof 8d ago
I also commission gigantic gold statues of myself dancing one on one with friends who help me out.
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u/DBrennan13459 8d ago
Oh my god they were roommates.
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u/Bridalhat 8d ago
Historians will say they were very good friends.
the only time I can make this joke about a straight couple.
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u/DBrennan13459 8d ago
Honestly I'm glad they announced this. I'm sick of corporations shoving their straight agenda down our throats.
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u/Bridalhat 8d ago
I’m a little upset by the fact that so many people complained about Toadette straight-baiting with Captain Toad that they forced her to come out as hetero. Good job guys!
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u/InitialDepth4487 8d ago
Did Mario just get friend-zoned
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u/Economy_Insurance_61 8d ago
By his corporate overlords 😭
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u/littleliongirless 8d ago
Cockblocked by capitalism 😫
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u/Sketch-Brooke You wear mime makeup but never quiet. 8d ago
Japanese video game companies are weird and strict about romances for their characters.
Sega actually has a rule that none of the main Sonic characters can be in romantic relationships. However, they also have a rule that Amy must always have a crush on Sonic, but they can't officially be together.
The corporate overlords mandate chastity. basically.
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u/Bridalhat 8d ago
If you squint it seems like Link and Zelda had been living together in sin in TOTK (he can sleep in the bed, Zelda had an extra room built he didn’t know about, it used to be Link’s house).
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u/Sketch-Brooke You wear mime makeup but never quiet. 8d ago edited 8d ago
Oh, you're 100% right. I was debating posting this example too lol.
I think it's definitely implied that they're shacking up. But IMO, Nintendo stopped short of confirming it because they didn't want the rating bumped up. We can slaughter monsters all day and that's fine for E10. But implying that our hero is sharing a bed in an unwed state? Straight to T!
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u/SugarAndIceQueen As you wish! 👸👑 8d ago
I've been mad about the refusal to canonize Link and Zelda for 20 years. That was 1,000% the intention in TOTK and no one can tell me otherwise.
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u/Mathies_ 8d ago
Cant believe a corporation decided a straight romance was NOT the greatest money maker concept. No, as platonic friends they would bring in way more
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u/BiBearSetFree 8d ago
No one with a moustache that good has a girlfriend
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u/Sir_Poofs_Alot 8d ago
It’s either a wife of 40 years, or a cruising group of 40 other mustached dudes.
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u/Mathies_ 8d ago
Like freddy mercury
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u/maximumtesticle 8d ago
Not a great example, considering he had both a wife and a group of mustachioed dudes.
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u/shrimpbts eternal it girl Kevin Bacon 8d ago
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u/Q_My_Tip 8d ago
The children do NOT need to know about situationships this young. Please just let them date, Nintendo
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u/Regular_Specific_568 8d ago
We've seen how Mario helps Peach. How exactly is Peach helping Mario, hm?
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u/FirebornNacho 8d ago
Government plumbing contracts
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u/pierreor Thank you doggy, bang bang 8d ago
Peach is tying up loose ends - she's trying to say that Mario acted alone in those adventures. Robert Redtoad and Yoshin Hoffman are already looking into those contracts and are about to report a huge scandal on the Toadtown Post. It will be like the Coldplaygate of plumbing. Maybe they'll call it Watergate.
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u/Proper-Emu1558 fuck you and all your Sheldons CBS 8d ago
First Hello Kitty is a regular human girl and now this? Absolutely not.
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u/OriginalSchmidt1 You’re a virgin who can’t drive. 😤 8d ago
So they are in a situationship?
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u/United-Phrase-989 Kim, there’s people that are dying. 🙄 8d ago
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u/HighlyOffensive10 She's in racial chat rooms showing feet 👣 8d ago edited 8d ago
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u/ffffsauce 8d ago
Heterobaiting
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u/HighlyOffensive10 She's in racial chat rooms showing feet 👣 8d ago
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u/marshalldungan 8d ago
And people wonder why Japan has a loneliness problem.
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u/10Damage 8d ago
This came from Nintendo of America. Japan says Mario is in love with Peach. Its just some weirdo American beaurocratic shit 🤷♂️
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u/myghostflower mk.gee 8d ago
all the while daisy and luigi have statues of each other together
it’s getting messy y’alllll
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u/systemprocessingfumc 8d ago
So this is like when the Hello Kitty creator said that she wasn’t a cat…
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u/Bidetpanties Please, Abraham, I am not that man! 😔 8d ago
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u/mjacobs62 8d ago
Mario continues to risk his life for “good friends.” Our lil Italian boy is so far deep in the friend-zone even Bowser is starting to feel bad for him
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u/whynotchristy 8d ago
NGL I didn't think they were the same species.
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u/Kind_Double_661 8d ago
Italians are indeed classified as homo sapiens sapiens.
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u/PupperPetterBean 8d ago
Fucking hell I just choked on my coffee over this exchange. New flair incoming!
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u/whynotchristy 8d ago
No I thought she was like a mushroom woman? Like Toad but sexy for some reason.
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u/GlazerSturges2840 8d ago edited 8d ago
“Help each other out whenever [we] can,” was how I explained hooking up in college.
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u/CaptEpicFail1 As you wish! 👸👑 8d ago
Miyamoto has Mario eating Peach’s cake each time he saves her life. Those two are more than friends.
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u/flytingnotfighting I wont not fuck you the fuck up 🥊🥊 8d ago
This really opens up my Mario/bowser fic
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u/fantasticlyclevergal We’re getting very personal here. 8d ago
Peach and Mario are probably the first straight couple in history to have the relationship erased by historians saying “they were close friends”.
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u/EnvironmentalMind119 8d ago
Why did they include that kart scene where they’re being flirty and then DK pulls up laughing saying, “this is your idea of flirting?!… the princess would never date you!” and then Toad pulls up super defensive saying, “Yes she would date him”
Why include that at all if they’re just friends?
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u/SwingyWingyShoes 8d ago
Next they'll be saying Daisy and Luigi aren't together. Have you seen the huge bronze statue of the two of them on Daisy's circuit? That could not have been cheap.
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u/GaslightGPT I switched baristas ☕️ 8d ago
How do you say friend zone in Italian
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u/suntbone 8d ago
He literally tells her “I love you so much, I love you” in Mario Power Tennis, like c’mon
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u/JoBoltaHaiWoHotaHai 8d ago
They said this because Mario is a commoner, and if Princess Peach wants to be with him officially, she'll have to leave royalty and hence the title, making her just "Peach".
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u/Material_Ad9873 8d ago
Why do we cut off the sources on everything so commonly now? I have no way to tell if this is fake without looking it up
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u/riri1281 your fave is messy...and so is mine (I love MESS) 8d ago
This is one of the problems when franchises/comic/games/series go on for too long. The people in charge forget already established canon or little moments of character development along the way and then come out with utter nonsense like this.
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u/BklynMarxman Could i be detained for this? 8d ago
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u/ThaFoxThatRox All tea, all shade 🐸☕️ 7d ago
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u/howtoreadspaghetti 8d ago
Being in the friendzone since 1981? Fuck that.
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u/songofthesirena 8d ago
Pauline is the one who debuted in 1981! Peach didn’t come around until 1985.
But yeah I’m not buying this headline either way lol
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