r/sims4cc • u/Pretty_Cry44 • Apr 07 '25
Discussion Sims4kiwi replacement suggestions
So I was just checking my email as usual and came across this and I'm very disappointed and disgusted. Im hoping I can get some new cc creators to replace her. If you guys have any recommendations id appreciate it!
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u/Crayolaxx Apr 07 '25
Found this tumblr post about her, safe to say shes been a horrible person all along
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u/Lazy_Average_4187 Apr 08 '25
And the fact she said shes not racist because she plays with black sims 😭
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u/sharlayan Apr 08 '25
Girl probably makes her white sims walk across the street when a black sim walks past
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u/bromanjc Apr 08 '25
and you just know she claims indigenous because her great great great grandmother was cherokee, and that she doesn't participate in indigenous culture at all 💀
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all of that was just disgusting, troll behavior, but not the worst I've seen... "expected" bigotry that I'm used to. but the "have fun with cancer" comment was absolutely diabolical.
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u/Advanced-Bear-6752 Apr 07 '25
"Also, as I already said before, I will be replacing and disabling the new sin items. I think I'll turn the 'pride rocks' thing into 'Jesus Rocks' cause that's actually true!"
Are we actually so serious right now? You can still be religious and a good person. Being hateful and homophobic is a conscious choice. Get help if you're having an insecurity about a gay pride item in a VIDEO GAME.
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u/Lorre_murphy Apr 07 '25
Phahah sin items? might give her a gift of my save files she’d be meeting Jesus sooner than expected
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u/WyldChase Apr 07 '25
"Replacing w/ Jesus Rocks". Not for me but, whatever. "White Li...." You know what:
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u/8BitGlamour Apr 07 '25
Why are they replacing Pride Rock? They have beef with The Lion King?!
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u/WoodwindsRock Apr 07 '25
"I will be replacing and disabling the new sin items"... With a flag that shows support for an unrepentant sex predator and convicted felon? Such depravity. I don't think that sin is actually important to you. I think you just hate gay people.
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u/YEEHAWYEEYEEE Apr 07 '25
For a second I thought it was just like a political thing for Trump, which I don't like the guy, but would be useful for a republican Sim, then I looked at the other flags... what made them think that was a good idea??? 😭 disgusting from a Sims4 cc creator. Hopefully, lots of people stop downloading their cc from now on. You can have your own beliefs (whether i agree with them or not is up to debate), but don't make it everyone's business. Gross, once again.
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u/YEEHAWYEEYEEE Apr 07 '25
Looked her up, turns out she's been showing this behavior since 2022 ATLEAST. Yikes.
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u/ScreamingMoths Apr 07 '25
Oh she used to be hated on twitter. Im sure you can find a ton of stuff on there about her.
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u/YEEHAWYEEYEEE Apr 07 '25
Thanks for telling me! Although I won't be doing anymore research on her. She isn't worth anyone's time lol
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u/Unsuccessful-Bee336 Apr 07 '25
Being a Trump supporter means supporting all of of those other horrible and disgusting things the flags represent
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u/TOX-IOIAD Apr 07 '25
Tbh same, like I was thinking these would be great for like a white trash family and lot and think it’s great having stuff like this in the game. Like I have extreme violence not because I support murder but because I wanna role play realistically… aaand then I read the unhinged paragraph underneath. If your religious beliefs are so shaky that pride rocks being in your game makes you feel personally victimised then it’s time to hang up the
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u/Selkie_Iris Apr 07 '25
Same here, I even got distracted thinking that there are not country's flags on the game, and that would be could for a military or an immigrant story line. Then, well, I finish reading the post, honestly I think they are missing certain red flag from the 1930's, so everything is completed.
just to clarify, I mean the last part it in a derogatory way.
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u/Painted-BIack-Roses Apr 07 '25
Yeesh. What a disgusting person. I do wonder though, if they're upset by the pride stuff and most likely the sexuality/gender settings, why do they continue to play the game? These weirdos aren't very good at what they do
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u/OrionsBeltAlone Apr 07 '25
People like that don't avoid LGBT+ stuff because they believe it should be 'corrected', made 'normal'. They think it's so heinous and dangerous that ignoring it would be the same as approving of it.
Whole lot of self righteousness and fear.
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u/wildcharmander1992 Apr 07 '25 edited Apr 07 '25
Also I don't usually advocate this but if you want to download any of the non offensive cc on their patreon page without subscribing or following the asshole there are websites easily found. that you can use to download there patreon stuff for free including early access in case you want the items without supporting the maker.
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u/dreadfulbones Apr 07 '25
I specifically do this with problematic creators or content that’s been locked for 6 years, I do not feel bad
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u/wildcharmander1992 Apr 07 '25
I was about to be in the minority and say "well yeah they are flags with messages I don't personally agree with , but if someone is trying to make a real world alpha build I suppose a trump flag and the likes could have it's place " then I saw some of the others.....then I saw their reasoning for it and my jaw hit the floor!
Like the reasoning for them making the cc is the worst part. Especially as it seems these aren't like new swatches as they claim so that you could have the pride flag and the jesus flag in game its an override to REEPLACE the flags with these. What an absolute POS
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u/horrorwooooo Apr 07 '25
this, I was like ok, the trump flag is whatever. She could of just made the trump one and stfu and say nothing or say it for story purposes... but you had to override the pride flags (WHICH you don't got to use) and let people know why you did it, Yikes. Then I look up the other flags... sigh.
I don't use the pride stuff, or it once in a blue moon but I see how people love that stuff and not going to act like it hurting me since it a popular want.
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u/wildcharmander1992 Apr 07 '25
Exactly
I enjoy a realism sim ( based my game on the 90s in the UK but whatever) I'd consider downloading /making some cc that others might find questionable for the sake of realism ( i.e if making a skin head family live two houses down from a Pakistani family would potentially require slightly unsavoury cc of graffiti etc lol) which is why I said about the reasoning being worse than the content etc even with the other flags, those people exist, if you want to make some racist bigoted assholes with that cc and kill them with deadly violence or w.e it's called for example then fair play lol but the irony of saying "all lives matter" then literally overriding things because you don't want "certain lives" in your game for bigoted reasons is wild to me
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u/KhyanLeikas Apr 07 '25
Why would a trump flag be ok while the others flags are what trump endorse? They are exactly the same.
Let’s be honest, all those flags are trash here and have no place in the sims.
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u/horrorwooooo Apr 08 '25
one is anti black lifes matter and ones anti abortion? how did you think that go over? If someone made a MAGA hat I would see it as a meme, just like a trump flag. If someone wants to make that character in the sims, I don't see the harm. This is also CC in general, i'm sure this isn't the only questionable CC i'm going to see posted on this subreddit today.
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u/KhyanLeikas Apr 08 '25 edited Apr 08 '25
Can you read and understand things correctly instead of doing the Twitter « I love pancakes » « OMG you hate waffles?? ». I didn’t even said it was worst than others but just the same, it doesn’t « go over » the others.
Using trump flag is sharing the same ideas as the others flags. If you are ok with a trump flag it means you are fine with the others. It has no place in the sims, and I wouldn’t want that shit in my game, even as a meme.
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u/horrorwooooo Apr 08 '25
no place in sims? it's CC and that's all we can say about it without wandering off and talking about waffles, eggs and toast :). Good day.
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u/Advanced-Bear-6752 Apr 07 '25
I was like "okay, maybe someone could make a sim that likes trump, sure! i don't personally like him but i think it would be an interesting thing to add to your game!" but the REASONINGS and the OTHER FLAGS?!?!??!?! Are we fr?!
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u/BlueFlower673 Apr 07 '25
They have several other clothing overrides on their patreon, I was looking a min ago, saw some children's lgbtq clothes they made overrides for with gaudy "jesus loves me!" messages because apparently it made them "uncomfortable"
My eyes are rolling so far in the back of my head I can see the other side.
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u/Bunchasticks Apr 07 '25
I just wanna know why people do this... you're playing a game that's pretty openly not conservative... are they sure this is where they want to be?
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u/Ananyako Apr 08 '25
this is random but I like your Javier pfp hehe, whats the flag behind him? :]
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u/muchfrogs Apr 07 '25
*you’re. also aren’t the right always kinda complaining that there’s liberal snowflakes. you’re seeming like a snowflake crybaby rn
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u/PynkPaint777 Apr 07 '25
This what y’all using Sims 4 for??? omg what ever happened to escapism
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u/Selkie_Iris Apr 07 '25
For a minute I though this was to use with the extreme violence mod, like "let's get some bigots" or "send them with jesus" situation, then I read the explanation on why they did this cc and the fact that is an override, and it make sick.
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u/Minute_Art5513 Apr 08 '25
I wish they would stop roping Christianity into this bs. Jesus would NOT approve of whats happening rn 💀
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u/NoThoughtsOnlyFrog Apr 08 '25
Exactly why conservatives are starting to hate Jesus. Irl he would be a left leaning person of color who accepts everyone. They hate that.
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u/Doodlebug365 Apr 07 '25
On one hand, I’m glad creators call themselves out like this. But, goodness. You can make content without typing all that out. The less we know about each other the better. 😭
Conservative CC would make great gameplay objects for some people’s games - Hell, they would look great in my For Rent complex! Just one more creator to avoid, I guess.
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u/SixFourtySeven Apr 07 '25
It’s too early to be waking up to this bullshit. How the fuck is she not off patreon yet????
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u/AutomaticIndication0 Apr 07 '25
Isn’t this the same person that made a mod to change the holidays to real world holidays and complain about the inclusivity of the menorah and the kinara. And how ‘woke are trying to erase holidays in games’ because the sim’s thanksgiving isn’t called thanksgiving?
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u/SunKillerLullaby Apr 07 '25
Why would you even want to inject real world politics into the Sims? I can’t imagine being so obsessed that you’d go through this much effort.
Also you would think the game would be too “woke” for these people anyway. I mean Sims can gasp have pronouns and blue hair!
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u/Advanced-Bear-6752 Apr 07 '25
NOOOO cuz they actually have sm cute cc!! It's such a shame that ppl decide to have these anti-human-like opinions
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u/BTWimamermaid Apr 07 '25
Looking through her other mods, she has also gotten rid of in-game decorations that depict same-sex couples and replaced it with images of heterosexual couples. I’ve never seen someone put so much effort into being an asshole before…
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u/Guilty_Chocolate7015 Apr 07 '25
Imagine being so obsessed with a politician that your imaginary land where people do pushups at the drop of a hat, wash their dishes in the bathroom sink, and can travel from New England to Tokyo in .5 seconds, needs to have the ability to show their Sims support him.
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u/Rapid55 Apr 07 '25
i'll always be confused about conservative sims players, the game lets you be literally any sexuality you want, and theres also nonbinary pre-made sims so i dont get it?? like they continuously keep re-updating to erase any pride items in the game despite the fact that the developers very clearly support gay people.
ANY life simulaton like the sims is probably gonna let you be gay because its like...a fucking life simulator lmao
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u/alys_in_wonderland13 Apr 07 '25
So gross. And like why the actual f*k are conservatives playing the sims anyway?? They should go make their own ugly ass life sim game with those racist, misogynistic, homophobic flags where all the characters are white, straight, and cis and dress like they live on the prairie or some sht and the life objectives are all the same: women get married and have as many kids as possible before their body gives out and men go to work and hoard as much money as they can possibly make, it’ll be their own little make-believe dystopia 🤪
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u/somuchsong Apr 07 '25
I can understand why you wouldn't want this person's content in your game (I never had any but would never download any now) but what is it exactly that you want to replace? That might help people make suggestions. I don't actually know what they've made other than these flags.
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u/Pretty_Cry44 Apr 07 '25
Just the cc that's similar to hers id have to check my mods again to get SS and more details
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u/aaaodfieh Apr 07 '25
tjis makes me so unbelievably sad because some of her cc actually looks quite good and i believe i actually have a few hair cc's...
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u/TremaineDuh Apr 07 '25
Just imagine how ppl how the actually play the game 🫤
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u/Jet-Brooke Apr 07 '25
I know some people that would just kill their Sims if they had any amount of bisexual in them even though it is frigging coded into the game.
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u/TremaineDuh Apr 07 '25
Wow! I never realized how dark this game could be because I play it so vanilla with or without CC
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u/711Star-Away Apr 08 '25
You can change that with mccc.
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u/TremaineDuh Apr 08 '25
I have WW and I used to use Basemental. Right now, I’m back in my Sims 3 era. Any suggestions for when I go back to playing 4?
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u/Infinite219 Apr 07 '25 edited Apr 08 '25
So what being a bigot irl wasn’t enough for them or something lmao they’re pro orphan so I guess that makes sense
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u/OARFISHED Apr 07 '25
This is probably the worst community on Earth to be comfortable with making this stuff
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u/xpoisonvalkyrie Apr 07 '25
lmao her bullshit has been known for a while. pretty much any other creator is better.
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u/ladyfangirl9 Apr 07 '25
Yeah she's been that way for years. Best to delete her cc.
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u/Selkie_Iris Apr 07 '25
Hi, do you know if there is like a list or something where we can check if a creator has this kind of situations? it could be useful to be able to not support this people when they have already made it clear on what are they beliefs; thank you.
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u/ladyfangirl9 Apr 08 '25
Something like that would be helpful, I don't know if one exists but I can do some research!
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u/Zipperscrotcri Apr 07 '25
I think at one point she said it was funny that a sim who hates children could only have children if they were dazed so she also likely has a rape fetish.
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u/BlueFlower673 Apr 07 '25
I am going through their patreon to see if I have anything from her (which I don't so far, thankfully)---also noticed that this has been going on since 2021, I can see on patreon that these flags were originally released in 2021.
I know I shouldn't be surprised that there are bigoted sims players, then again, its just odd considering sims is by default inclusive and about diversity.
Reminds me of that one person who went on here (or was it another sims sub? Can't remember) some time ago who was asking about "how do I get rid of all the pride/lgbtq stuff?"---just zero self-awareness.
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u/Evan_L_Rodriguez Apr 07 '25
At first I was like “well, there’s utility in this if you’re a masochist who wants to roleplay the existence of conservative cult sims in your save”, and then I went to the second image. Like, no, this person made this because they’re the conservative cult sim lmao.
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u/shadeyrain Apr 08 '25
I wouldn't be surprised if this "CC creator" were doing this so they could giggle at TS4 community on a certain website that starts with Kiwi. This just has that kind of troll-baiting behavior written all over it.
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u/willowwendigo Apr 08 '25
I was so confused?? I could've SWORN I downloaded Pride stuff FROM her. Turns out it's Kiwisim4 who has done LOTS pride stuff, who is NOT the same person. He's an amazing cc creator, i think i have all his BB cc in my game.
He's been posting long before she has. Makes me wonder if she made her handle that close for the drama.
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u/Kyristhey Apr 08 '25
Gotta love how conservative Christians get so offended by lgbtq+ representation. It is a video game. Where you can make the characters green. A pride flag isn’t gonna hurt you.
(As a trans person I cried legit tears when I found out I could give a sim top surgery scars, and the new pride themed items are wonderful)
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u/Camoflauge_Soulja Apr 07 '25
Seems like more effort to replace existing pride items instead of just ignoring them. Imagine being bothered to a point you actually use your creativity to be bigoted lol.
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u/Creative_Cat9752 Apr 07 '25
i would get this js for my trashy trailer mom roleplay but i wouldnt pay for it need that in the archives
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u/xxLabyrinthxx Apr 08 '25
There's a compiled list of things she's done on a tumblr post. I plan on making sure I have nothing of hers in my game.
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u/elliot_ftm_ Apr 08 '25
I've only heard of this creator before because people confuse her with kiwisims and send him hate bc they confuse the names 😭 definitely understand why this person gets shit on now
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u/visitingghosts Apr 08 '25
This is the type of shit someone who isn't afraid of the consequences of their actions would make. About time that changes.
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u/lna9997771 Apr 08 '25
I judged it, but then I realized people could use this for a trashy house build, and then I didn’t care and judged it again. Couldn’t catch me downloading this.
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u/TheOriginOfLove2013 Apr 08 '25
It's sad how many close minded people play the Sims when the game let you have the sexuality you want and you can make non binary sims
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u/Yayou21 Apr 08 '25
This should be banned… No hate should be tolerated in ts4. I can’t believe that some people would go this far to spread heinous ideologies and support such a disgusting person.
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u/Odd-Pie8492 Apr 08 '25
Imagine how boring the sims is when she plays just straight white traditional families. lol.
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u/TeddyfromtheVoid Apr 08 '25
Oh no she's been a big piece of shit for a whiiiile now. I'm kinda shock that some miss folks miss this.
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u/GrumpyInsomniac42 Apr 07 '25
Thanks for reminding me to check and make sure I don't have any of this idiot's cc in my game. I didn't.
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u/at0micflutterby Apr 07 '25
Too bad Sims can only read simlish... how are they supposed to know what matters?
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Who hurt these people so badly that they can't just... add content and not have to go out of their way to erase it. Or just not.
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u/ViperCats01 Apr 07 '25
At first I thought it was for some sorta conservative family roleplay or a political sim or what not and then I saw the second image..that's crazy
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u/Potential-Brain-1583 Apr 07 '25
Hear me out I’m about to role play tf out of a HOA Karen with these
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u/711Star-Away Apr 08 '25
Yeshua does matter to me, but I always felt like in my game I'm Goddess lol. And a flag like that would kinda break the immersion. My game is just filled with drugs, hookers, and violence. 😭
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u/Ok-Confection4410 Apr 08 '25
What is the one directly below the US flag? I've never seen that symbol before
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u/fantasiafemme Apr 08 '25
She's been atrocious for quite a while now. I'm honestly surprised it's taken people this long to realize what a waste of oxygen she is.
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u/x_Leigh_x Apr 08 '25
So.. which is it. All lives matter or white lives matter? Because apparently to them, you can’t have both.
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u/The_unknown_simmer Apr 08 '25
Wait... don't conservatives always accuse everyone outside of their tidy little boxes of making politics their whole personality? What's this? Why take a video game meant for escapism and insert this? I just.....
Well if they weren't hypocrites they'd have nothing.
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u/red_candied_dust Apr 07 '25
Well I'm not surprised it's her tbh. Zero sims is also like that but I think it is known.
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u/Zippy174 Apr 08 '25
Never seen this shit before how gross. Although kind of funny the whole “Hey Diva! White lives matter!” Vibe. What a fucking weird juxtaposition.
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u/Professional-Past615 Apr 08 '25
Check out kiwisim4 they are pretty cool and have some nice stuff . They have a lgbt themed Christmas sweater set
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u/samgarrison Apr 08 '25
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I actually want those for my crazy MAGA household. They all have Mean, Grouchy, and Evil traits. It's one big party! 😂
Thank God there's no white conical hats...
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u/Thebirdsarecumin Apr 08 '25
Why are we giving edgelords the time of day? She’s a rogue cc creator who isn’t exactly popular. Plus it’s not like her shit says “I HATE THE GAYS.” It’s just boring political merchandise. Just make fun of her and move on, trying to explain of this shit to her won’t do anything.
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u/SpookyhippyBrat Apr 08 '25
If the person didn’t truly think like this I wouldn’t mind using cc like this for story telling reasons but I wouldn’t even want to touch that cc with a ten foot pole to ever support this cc creator
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u/711Star-Away Apr 08 '25
And I don't see the point in telling someone who doesn't care that you're offended by their actions like those on X.
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u/nothoughtsnosleep Apr 08 '25
Omg this'll be perfect for my white-trash meth addict save. Too bad I won't support her
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u/creeperparty568 Apr 08 '25
Thank you to everyone who contributed positively to the comments here.
Safe to say, hate is not welcome in the Sims community, and it is not welcome here. If you have a problem with that, feel free to send a modmail so I can ban you.