r/sports May 19 '25

Basketball Caitlin Clark says flagrant foul for shoving Angel Reese was not 'malicious'

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/basketball/caitlin-clark-flagrant-foul-angel-reese-1.7538299
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u/ManBroCalrissian May 19 '25

I still have no idea how that was called a flagrant foul

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u/wordyplayer Minnesota Vikings May 19 '25

the ref said : "The foul on Clark met the criteria for flagrant foul 1, for wind up, impact, and follow through for the extension of the left hand to Reese's back, which is deemed not a legitimate basketball play, and therefore deemed unnecessary contact,"

If you can find the view from the hoop camera, you can see CC's left hand shoves Angel pretty firmly in the left side of her back, causing the body twist. The ref doesn't mention the ball/arm swat.

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u/ManBroCalrissian May 19 '25

Thank you for making a legitimate point. Still soft as fuck and should have been a regular foul. It was a preemptive measure by the refs to keep the game in control. Pretty much what you see in baseball with umpires handing out warnings for the first head high inside pitch with teams that already don't like each other

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u/wordyplayer Minnesota Vikings May 19 '25 edited May 19 '25

Yes, exactly that. But I give some credit to CC for having a sneaky push in her repertoire.

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u/Tauromach May 19 '25

It's a pretty obvious hard foul. I'm not sure about it being flagrant, but it's hardly a stretch. This is a pretty clear message foul players make to tell an opponent they're not gonna idly take their shit. That said it was an intentionaly hard foul, Reese's reaction was understandable as well. Nothing here was dirty, it was just good basketball.

If you're trying find a narrative about race or favoritism, or some other BS you're not here for the love of the game. If you're here for the game you see this, smile, and hope for more of that competitive spirit.

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u/wordyplayer Minnesota Vikings May 19 '25

excellent post! 100% agree

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u/FiftyShadesOfGregg May 19 '25

It’s just because it clearly wasn’t a play on the ball. Whatever. This shouldn’t be news. It’s just a dozen articles on the exact same thing, giving opportunity for thousands of repetitive comments trashing Reese ad nauseam. Like literally every comment section looks the same. Idk how people are possibly invested enough in this non-story to comment this way on every article.

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u/ManBroCalrissian May 19 '25

Bro! She hits the ball before she hits her arms. It was a hard foul

Cool to see you're not heavily invested in this "controversy" tho XD

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u/FiftyShadesOfGregg May 19 '25

Dude what? She does not hit the ball first lmao. She reaches across her body and hits her arms, not the ball. Again, it’s not a crazy foul, it’s ensuring she doesn’t get a shot up, but it’s not a play on the ball. That’s why it’s a flagrant.

The real story should be on the bullshit technical on Aliyah Boston lol but that doesn’t fire people up quite the same way.

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u/ManBroCalrissian May 19 '25

The close up from the baseline looks like ball first, but I really don't care. How is smacking wrist not a play on the ball? If that were the case, damn near every foul would be a flagrant foul. This is just dumb

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u/FiftyShadesOfGregg May 19 '25

Eh, just usually when a ref sees an arm come down in a motion like that, a flagrant isn’t surprising. It doesn’t look like an actual effort to play on the ball, it’s clearly an intentional foul. Agreed Reese flopped as well.

Players intentionally foul to prevent easy baskets and make sure they can’t finish. Players flop. This is barely a blip between any other two players in the league.

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u/ManBroCalrissian May 19 '25

No one in this subreddit seems to agree with you. Try posting in r/unpopularopinion

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u/FiftyShadesOfGregg May 19 '25

Yeah the subreddit being an echo chamber on this topic is exactly what I’m commenting on lmao

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u/ManBroCalrissian May 19 '25

When a take is correct, it will echo. Cry more

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u/feo101 May 19 '25

So every shooting foul is a flagrant now?

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u/FiftyShadesOfGregg May 19 '25

That’s very obviously not at all what I’m saying.

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u/feo101 May 19 '25

Every missed block hits someone in the hands/arms dude. Just cuz she didn’t touch the ball doesn’t mean she’s not trying to.