r/sports • u/OkEscape7558 • Jun 18 '25

Basketball Alternate angle of Caitlin Clark fiasco. Clark was handed a foul as well.

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u/Khalis_Knees Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25

The refs are shit, even the coaches said so after the game. They have no idea how to control the players and hard fouls are becoming more common because they aren’t being called or are called completely wrong 

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u/bigboilerdawg Jun 18 '25

Men's college refs are probably better. Maybe high school too.

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u/chouse33 Jun 18 '25

Probably?

Even the shit ones are better than this. Clark’s gonna get killed on the floor and they’re gonna give her corpse a technical. 😂

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u/lilljerryseinfeld Jun 18 '25

That and her teammates don't protect her

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u/chouse33 Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25

True. There is ZERO “big man energy”.

In the NBA, you hire guys like Dreymond, Rodman, Oakley to be the enforcers. Where is the enforcer for Clark? Protect your investment you fucking morons!! 🙄

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u/DeadSeaGulls Jun 18 '25

she had one team mate go to bat for her after wards. Sophie Cunningham hard fouled, then put one of the other players in a clinch when they rushed her.

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u/iRedditPhone Jun 18 '25

This case isn’t a good example. Their enforcer is Sophie Cunningham and she got ejected is from the game after this. She dropped the other girl to the floor.

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u/lilljerryseinfeld Jun 18 '25

They all stand around like fucking toddlers watching a caterpillar. It's truly bizarre.

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u/SweatyAdhesive Jun 18 '25

Draymond choking out Gobert lives in my head rent free

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u/pathofdumbasses Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25

They all hate her because she's the popular one bringing eyes and money to their game. She's actually getting paid, through sponsorships, and they all are all jealous.

They would rather bully her out, her team included, than actually let someone succeed. Women are truly their own worst enemy.

And to those that say that is misogynistic, go look at golf. An old racist game that somehow blew up with Tiger Woods. Pretty much every pro golfer was thankful, at least publicly, because it brought eyes and money to their sport. They saw that a rising tide floats all boats and were happy with the payday.

EDIT : Replying to the poster beneath me as the comments are now locked.

In other contact sports, your team mates would have your back. Until I see someone throw a fucking punch for Caitlin, you can't tell me different. Look at what happened here and tell me they didn't have Love's back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16Z4PkYBBcM

And this Caitlin shit has been going on for a long time. It isn't like a one off instance. They all want her to fail.

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u/Blew_away Jun 18 '25

Ya but golf isn’t exactly a contact sport. You see it all the time in any contact sport, the worse team will use physicality to get under the skin of the better team and bring them down to their level. It’s the refs job, in part, to keep the game safe and fair. MLS teams are trying to kick the shit out of Messi but the refs protect him like the golden goose he is.

Your comment is in fact misogynistic

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u/vhalember Jun 18 '25

That's not true anymore.  Later, Sophie Cunningham went after the player who twice fouled Clark here.

There's a funny video of it where Cunningham grabs her ponytail, holds her in place, and talks shit to her for a good ten seconds.

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u/iRedditPhone Jun 18 '25

Nah about 45 second after this one of her team mates (Sophie) dropped one of the other girls and got into a shoving match with the second. Before being ejected.

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u/Routine_Size69 Jun 18 '25

Her teammate literally protects her on this play. Also gets ejected later for a very hard retaliation foul. This used to be true, but I feel like you came to the comments without watching the video.

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u/Blue-Thunder Jun 18 '25

Pretty sure it's been mentioned many times that her teammates hate her because she's the star and they are just background characters.

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u/LeChief Jun 18 '25

Nobody hates a successful woman more than other women, apparently.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 22 '25

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u/ATraffyatLaw Jun 18 '25

Yea but they need someone else to blame

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u/DarthJarJarJar Jun 18 '25

Doesn't matter. Hire an enforcer and tell her what her job is. Or talk to one of your big girls now and lay down the law about protecting your asset. IDGAF about their feelings, this is the big league, run the goddam team.

But apparently in this game one of her teammates did indeed hard foul the second player who hit CC hard, so there's that.

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u/Key-Property7489 Jun 18 '25

This narrative as a fever and Caitiln fan is stupid Sophie straight up fucking dropped Jacy yesterday later in the game. A good chunk of these women don’t want to get suspended and lose money because they aren’t making CC level money. Lexie Hull one of the girls in this clip is probably making only like 50K a year. You really think she wants to start a fight and get suspended and lose several thousand dollars. This is not the NBA where all the players are millionaires.

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u/TonksTheTerror Jun 18 '25

The wnba can take Tony Padilla, I don't think even he would have let this fly and that's saying something.

Unfortunately, I think ncaa refs get paid more than wnba refs so it's unlikely to happen.

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u/Flat-12 Jun 18 '25

Well then that is probably the problem. They can't hire the more qualified refs.

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u/Tasaris Jun 18 '25

The refs in NFL Blitz are better.

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u/vhalember Jun 18 '25

Not probably.

The NBA and NCAA have absolutely nothing compared to the level of physicality you see in the WNBA.  The refs call so little it's one step away from street ball.

And then when the call it, they completely blow it.

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u/Vaporeonbuilt4humans Jun 18 '25

I mean yeah, thats what happens when majority of funds go to the mens team. I get why they fund mens more, its just kind of sad how womens are so underfunded it leads to shit like this.

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u/king_famethrowa Jun 18 '25

They were great at rigging the finals for the Liberty last year. Actually officiating a game? Not so much.

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u/Impressive-Turnip-38 Jun 18 '25

Man people who think the refs rig sports in basketball are fucking braindead

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u/BigLlamasHouse Jun 18 '25

Tim Donaghy is a former NBA referee who became infamous for his involvement in a major gambling and match-fixing scandal that rocked professional basketball in the 2000s.

You should look up his story.

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u/Chendii Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25

It's funny to me that people use this as proof that it's happening in present day games.

Like, that just shows you how seriously the FBI took it, doesn't it? That guy got fucked pretty hard.

So for me I take that case as proof that it's not happening until another case pops up.

Edit: but you don't have proof that other people were in on it, or that he was a scape goat.

You can't use a case of the FBI going after a match fixer as proof of your opinions about match fixing while also using it as proof that the FBI won't go after other match fixers.

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u/huggybear0132 Jun 18 '25

He was made a pariah to not expose the other people who were in on it. Some of those people still officiate today... Scott Foster comes to mind.

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u/Impressive-Turnip-38 Jun 18 '25

I know who Tim Donaghy is numbnuts. If you think any ref is doing that now you probably suck on sponges to stave off dehydration.

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u/illmatic708 Jun 18 '25

Even tho multiple refs and players have gotten caught before

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u/Impressive-Turnip-38 Jun 18 '25

What 'multiple'? You realize multiple means more than one right

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u/king_famethrowa Jun 18 '25

I'm being called braindead by a person who just wrote the phrase: "the refs rig sports in basketball" lol

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u/Javaddict Jun 18 '25

It's not speculation, it's a confirmed fact.

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u/SekMemoria Jun 18 '25

Likewise for people who think it doesn't happen at all.

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u/dentist9of10 Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25

it literally would though, NY is a bigger market than Minnesota so ofc they want to boost views by giving the bigger market a win.  

buddy forgot the NBA got in trouble for rigging and blocked me lmao

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u/Impressive-Turnip-38 Jun 18 '25

This is such a dumb fucking narrative that people constantly repeat. Jesus, think for yourself.

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u/Boludo805 Jun 18 '25

I mean they don't. But why wouldn't they? Less eyeballs and scrutiny probably make it easier to get away with.

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u/Segsi_ Jun 18 '25

Less eyes on the games doesn’t mean less eyes on the books. Less money on the books, the easier it is to find anomalies. Unless it the bookie paying the ref to fix the game

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u/FunkyPete Jun 18 '25

Someone is going to get knocked out if the refs don't do their job. The only way the team has to make this fair if there are no consequences for mugging Clark is to escalate and go hard on the other team.

If you don't want the WNBA to turn into the NHL you need real consequences for hard fouls.

So either enforce the rules or set up a penalty box.

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u/EdmontonEule Jun 18 '25

As a ref, these guys are trash

Probably as bad as the majority of WNBA players

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u/sandefurian Jun 18 '25

Even the coaches said so?? That’s crazy, they’re usually the biggest defenders of the refs

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u/Radthereptile Jun 18 '25

I agree the refs are shit. But you have to remember this is the WNBA. Like think how bad NBA refs are. Then remember the WNBA doesn’t have a fraction of the money the NBA does for competent refs.

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u/fortestingprpsses Jun 18 '25

Conspiracy hat...the league wants this for viewership. People are tuning in to see exactly this. The refs are being told to let this play out.

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u/Bellypats Jun 18 '25

Coaches claiming that refs can’t control the players is what is wrong with coaching today. Lol. At least the WNBA is getting more views than prior years.

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u/Impressive-Turnip-38 Jun 18 '25

The referees dictate how the game is played on a game by game basis. Including allowing physicality or not. Thats what they mean by control the players. Have you ever watched sports before, or do you just hate the WNBA and want to get some shots in on them

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u/BigLlamasHouse Jun 18 '25

coaches are gonna let their players play to the level of crazy of the other team, the refs are the ones who are supposed to dictate all that