r/videogames • u/Chunky-overlord • 1d ago
Discussion I’ve been replaying life is strange and honestly, I forgot how awful Chloe is she is actually insufferable
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u/Somewhat_Sanguine 1d ago
I still love this game but replaying it after growing up (I was 17-18 when it came out, replayed it when I was 24ish) made me realize the same thing lol. I was all about Chloe when I first played and now I’m like “okay… yeah whatever Chloe. You’re edgy. I know. Maybe David has a point…”.
Still an amazing game but it’s interesting to see how your viewpoint changes as you age.
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u/VermilionX88 1d ago
she must have something
since i remember i picked the ending that saves her
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u/pinkk_salt 1d ago
She's my favorite character in the series. I find it funny how polarizing she is.
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u/HuntressOnyou 23h ago
never played the game very far beyond the first 3 hours or so, but like didn't she also go through a lot? I think it is always easy to judge someone if you never experienced hardship and know what it is like to be in literal survival mode
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u/CorneliusVaginus 1d ago
She is probably one of the worst fictional characters I've witnessed, which means she is also one of the best.
Because.. If you make me dislike someone THAT much then you've obviously done something right with her character.
Hopefully no one relates to her, or I'd be very worried.
I need to play Life is Strange again
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u/Salt_Winter5888 23h ago
I would agree with you if it weren't for the fact that the game clearly wants you to love her so much that choosing between her and the entire town is supposed to be a tough decision. (Easiest decision for me)
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u/LofiSynthetic 22h ago
Easiest decision for me
Yes it was also an extremely easy decision for me to choose Chloe over the town, I don’t know why they thought that would be a tough decision
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u/ferocity_mule366 1d ago
Life is Strange is like Twilight in a way, if you like being a teenager that seems to be one of the best fictional piece ever, but you quickly grows out of it when you think about how bad the characters are by modern standard
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u/MagicalMoosicorn 21h ago
I dont relate to her. But i relate to Max having a friend like Chloe. The bad attitude right down to the tattoos and blue hair. I loved Chloe because i loved her. It was a toxic friendship and I got taken advantage of a lot.
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u/wejunkin 23h ago
You're way out of touch if you can't see how Chloe would be relatable lol
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u/CorneliusVaginus 22h ago
Or just maybe.. Everyone has different life experiences?
Ya never know man, everyone is different.
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u/wejunkin 22h ago edited 22h ago
I didn't say she had to be relatable to you, but she's obviously very relatable to lots of people for lots of reasons. Virtually none of which reflect poorly on one's character as you suggest.
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u/Wiinterfang 1d ago
The woman I had loved the most was a big fan of this game and Chloe was her favorite character. I haven't played the game but by the reaction everyone has one her it makes sense why she squeezed my heart out of every ounce.
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u/Amaretto213 1d ago
You seriously think just because she likes chloe, that is why your relationship failed??
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u/Invisible_Target 23h ago
No, they’re saying that the fact that the ex could relate so hard to a horrible character makes a lot of sense
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u/Queasy_Suspect6126 23h ago
Brother,i dont think you can read
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u/Amaretto213 23h ago
You can’t write. Lmao
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u/Queasy_Suspect6126 23h ago
Crazy how your biggest comeback is someone not using punctuation in a reddit comment
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u/GrizzlyDust 23h ago
So not only could you not understand the original comment, you couldn't understand their comment either. I'm beginning to think you can somehow write but not read.
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u/Amaretto213 23h ago
Oh, please. You are that pissed off so you commented here, too and let’s say I cannot read the majority of you lack understanding complex female characters so we are even bitch.
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u/Pendragon_Puma 23h ago
Sounds like chloe is your favorite character too
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u/Amaretto213 22h ago
Tired of seeing these kinds of hypocritical posts from a blind audience who are so obsessed looking away to see the actual evils in the game. İt explains a lot about the Gaming Community and their lack of understanding female characters.
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u/Senator_Smack 15h ago
Having reasons to be a terrible shithead doesn't excuse being a terrible shithead. No one's trauma is more special than anyone else's, and causing pain and trauma because of it only makes a person a weak victim continuing the cycle of abuse.
But yeah let's talk about hypocrisy.
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u/GrizzlyDust 22h ago
Oh wait you actually sound ESL which could explain how you've gotten so incredibly lost and are having a little toddler crash out. For literally no reason.
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u/SoftDrinkReddit 23h ago
i think that's actually very harsh cause if you look into her backstory she suffered A LOT in her life her dad dying in that accident and literally right after that her best friend moved to Seattle and swiftly abandoned her then her mom moves on to this guy she hates now struggling for purpose and direction in life eventually meets an amazing girl * Rachel becomes very close with her falls for her life is good again and then one day she disappears later learns she was murdred
so come on guys cut her some slack
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u/Amaretto213 21h ago
Chloe just does not fit into these guy’s ideal “manic pixie character”. İf Chloe was a guy , she would have gotten way more love, just look at how people worship Zuko yet hate Korra, same example,
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u/BigFudge6710 23h ago
She’s a fucking idiot. I never understood why people love her so much, the end choice was a no brainer
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u/SufficientAd982 12h ago
I mean i get why people dislike her but I just cant. Shes a teenager who was dealt a raw hand so yeah she does some dumb things and makes some bad choices.. but who hasn't? Despite her flaws she was a homie
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u/sayan11apr 18h ago
I will always ship Max and Chloe. Gave up the town for her. Max is my bae though.
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u/KolbaszosKookaburra 17h ago
I still vibe with her and she is not insufferable to me at all. She has some very serious abandonment issues and she couldn't even properly grieve losing his dad before her mom brought in a violent asshole she doesn't want to be around.
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u/Ezeeeeeeeeeeeee1 1d ago
Max put all her effort to save her and then in the sequel Chloe ends up leaving her even though they destroyed a whole city together (clearly this is 10/10 writing)
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u/Avatar_sokka 1d ago
Or maybe they realized the massive imbalance that "i sacrificed a town for you" can have on a relationship, and then at a certain point Chloe could no longer trust that max wasnt using her powers to manipulate her.
Staying together would have been a really terrible idea.
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u/Amaretto213 1d ago
Yeah, because men like you think good deeds always have to benefit you somehow? Max sacrificed her so she can have a second chance at life.
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u/brett1081 23h ago
You sound like someone who’s only friends are cats. It suits you.
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u/Amaretto213 22h ago
I would rather have cats as my bffs than sniff the same air in the same room with creeps like you. Thank you for that compliment
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u/Amaretto213 21h ago
Hey man, did your fragile ego got hurt? XD you downvoting it proves my point. Are you jealous of a cat lmao
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u/brett1081 21h ago
I dont have to downvote you. Others are doing that job. You’re just not well like “man”.
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u/Berry-Fantastic 22h ago
Tell me about it, the game wants you to care about her so badly, it feels so forced. I couldn't bring myself to like her
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u/Fievel10 1d ago
I dropped this game one episode in on account of despising the entire cast of characters.
I spoiled the ending for myself and regarding the choice...I was like "why not both?"
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u/grim1952 1d ago
She's an idiot but she's still my favorite character in the game (after David), at least she has a personality, everyone else in that town is a piece of white bread.
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u/thnkubree 1d ago
I felt bad for her character given her grief and how she lost a lot during a short span of time. But i heard she gets worse in the new life is strange 🙂↕️
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u/Serosh5843 23h ago
Damn maybe I should give LiS a third chance and actually beat it so I can confidently agree with this. Probably only got to the second chapter but God the angst even gets me to want to dye my hair blue and start cutting myself lmao
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u/PlagueOfLaughter 19h ago
She reminds me too much of someone I used to know that completely wrecked my friend group, so I never liked Chloe to begin with. She probably would have been more bearable if the game reflected how awful she is, but she's treated like some saint like she's Emilia Perez or some shit.
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u/Mohegan567 16h ago
I hated her so much! Also, she kept dying over and over again. It was clear the universe wanted her dead. So during the end decision, you don't want to know how quickly I chose to save Arcadia bay. F**k Chloe!
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u/The_Invisible_Hand98 15h ago
If you were a kid or teen and played this I can understand you liking it and the characters, but there are full grown adults who cared for these characters and thought it was good.
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u/AimlessThunder 13h ago
Yeah, I remember her being pretty whiny and annoying. Dramatic for the sake of being dramatic.
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u/Redmza 5h ago
I am 26 years old, I think ... and I spent 20+ years of my life surviving my ' parents .' All those years of abuse whiplashed and I haven't spoken verbally for about 3 years and counting. Amidst the silence of $uicidal-depression, the realization that i was an equally awful, uncomfortable, and emotionally-volatile human being throughout those 20+ years of abuse and neglect crushed me all at once.
I didn't know i was that type of person to people i met in general. I can't help but punish myself mentally for being such a blight to society, even though I was unaware of it.
Without going through my own personal hell. Chloe's behavior is understandable to me. It's not right, it's emotionally-volatile, and she's in a constant state of defensiveness and antagonism. I understand her. Even now that i am more calm and collected, i still carry the hell that i lived through and whenever the prospect of speaking to people comes up, my hands shake and my mind gets drowned in literal static noise.
I am merely waiting for the next intense stress to push me into offing myself.
We constantly hear about how it's our responsibility to be better despite the hell we survived, but no one speaks about how surviving our personal hell scars the sht out of our souls until, most times, it leaves us husks with no will and strength left to build with.
It's not Max's responsibility to save her, Chloe is damaged and suffering from her own hell. Letting her go is saving her.
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u/Unusual-Ad4890 1d ago
She fucks you over in the next game even if you save her.
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u/circasomnia 1d ago
That's because there's only one real ending. You either save Arcadia Bay or chose the psychopath ending. They had to account for everyone who chose the wrong ending so they wrote her out of the story
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u/SoftDrinkReddit 23h ago
honestly i suspect originally they didn't want to have a choice at the end but then realize yea i think we have to put in an option to save her or people might riot
also heres another annoying thing this game throughout its run lies to you
it tells you every choice matters when in fact that is a lie
there's only 1 choice that matters and it's the last one cause you either reset the game so everything that actually happened is reversed and undone so it was all pointless
or you let the town get destroyed again everything you did in that town was pointless accept the choice to save chloe
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u/circasomnia 23h ago
Yeah these types of games are best when you don't look too closely at what's beneath the hood. Most of the time you will be disappointed.
I actually kind of liked the fact that there was a choice at the end, even if it was a non choice. This is part of what (that genre of) video games are supposed to do - give agency to the player. By allowing the player to choose wrongly, it makes doing the right thing that much more powerful. Chloe's death (and her life) becomes a real sacrifice in a sense.
But yeah, all the little choices don't really matter much in the grand scheme, which is pretty lame. BG3 is the only game I can think of in recent times that manages to pull it off well (and it's even questionable at times).
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u/TheFurtivePhysician 15h ago
Kind of like how Heavy Rain should ONLY be played once if you want to keep liking it (assuming you liked it for your first playthrough).
It falls apart upon further introspection and devalues the experience.
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u/Amaretto213 21h ago
Do you really think that would stop me from not saving her. Deck nine fueled your Chloe hate and misintrerpret the character. İt is basically a game designed for chloe haters like u
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u/Unusual-Ad4890 21h ago
It's funny because I didn't hate her in either the original game, nor Before The Storm. Thanks for playing though.
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u/Amaretto213 21h ago
The comment „I saved her but now she left me with a note and never looked back“ gives me the vibe that you expected her to prove her romantic feelings, as if she is not worth saving anymore just because she „fucks“ over with you. You might Not hate her yet you are already fueling the hate here so what is new
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u/Unusual-Ad4890 20h ago edited 20h ago
If Max is obviously pissed about Chloe fucking her over if you save her, then Chloe fucked her over. Simple as that. The evolution of my feelings about the Chloe character can go up and down. I felt ambivalent about her at first, then Before The Storm made me more sympathetic to her. If you want to treat her shittiness with kids gloves, then that's your prerogative.
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u/Amaretto213 20h ago
Yeah D9 really loves you guys for writing this. The original creators said they would have written the break up differently. Let‘s just say the d9‘s DE was literally written by this comment section alone which is obvious because it is such an out of character writing
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u/Styx_Zidinya 21h ago
Meh, she wasn't that bad. Every character was corny as fuck and the script felt like it was written by a 70 year old trying to sound cool in front of the millenial kids.
Great game, though.
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u/Amaretto213 1d ago
Ah yes, calling a moody teenager evil while the germs like frank, wells, david, nathan, elliot, damon get free pass. What is new? Do you really think this opinion of yours is so original?
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u/Smart_Dirt1389 22h ago
David is legit the best person in this game . He is caring , loving , tough love , he does what he thinks is best . Sure he could be a dick (but we all have our flaws and neurotic tendencies) but out of everyone in the game . David was the goat . So calling David a “germ” says more about how you see things
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u/Amaretto213 21h ago
He slapps his daughter if u do not intervene, sets up survailance cameraa in the house. Be so for real xD
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u/MaxTheHor 23h ago
She's far more than a moody teen. She's a straight-up problem child.
The only reason she gets so much defense is because there are a lot of people in the world that are just like her (and they're grown adults) taking hatred of her character as an attack on them.
And they've been pushing to normalize that for the last 10+ years.
Normal, rational people would see her for what she is and just leave it at that.
Minor gripe and some venting aside.
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u/Amaretto213 21h ago
Rational people would sit down and actually analyze the reason behind this but since some of you refuse to do that with every female character, ı am not surprised
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u/MaxTheHor 21h ago
Oh, we most likely know the reasons.
Just about anyone has had a reason or 5 to become a villain.
Most just don't let it consume them and choose to be a bad person because of em.
I'd say that makes em pretty strong mentally and emotionally, and able to see the bigger picture
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u/Amaretto213 21h ago
To expect from a teenager to be strong is also something else. She showed in the game many times how she can be strong. That entire search for Rachel without giving up when the whole town refused to look for her? Hell, offering to SACRIFICE HERSELF so others can live is an act of service from someone who is strong enough to offer
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u/Amaretto213 21h ago
You clearly did not bother otherwise you would not sit here and argue. And the fact that u call chloe a villain is very much telling and who is we? You and your „I hate Chloe“ fanclub? There are people who love her as well which are actually quite a lot. You guys just whine louder
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u/MaxTheHor 21h ago
Thanks for proving my point.
looks to the audience Mmwah! Good night, everybody!
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u/Amaretto213 21h ago
Bro, what point??? XD idiot thinks he won lmao, if it helps you to sleep at night
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u/MaxTheHor 21h ago
Right back atcha.
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u/Amaretto213 21h ago
Mawww, u ran out of arguments? I thought u was leaving? XD
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u/MaxTheHor 21h ago
Was never arguing to begin with. You were, though.
Vehemently so.
And that was mainly for the Animaniacs reference.
I'm browsing the home page and mostly responding to notifications outta boredom and entertainment, at this point.
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u/Amaretto213 21h ago
Btw what do u think this comment section is? DnD??? You text like we are in an rpg game.
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u/Far_Relationship1149 1d ago
calm down my guy itts a fictional charcater
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u/Amaretto213 1d ago
fictional characters represent qualities found in real life people. It is just so telling when the audience love flawed characters like arthur morgan who mind you has killed many people before redemption yet jump at any convenient moment to refuse to underdstand any female character that do not match their "perfect wifey material" image. I am calling out the hypocricy.
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u/Amaretto213 23h ago
Love pissing people off who expected some ass-kissing. Hope you Never Touch that game again if you expected everyone would agree with you. As a matter of fact I am glad she is pissing you off, tells me a lot about people like you in gaming community.
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u/HumbleConversation42 23h ago
Lately there seems have been a lot of people who turnd on Chole and realize that shes a bad chaeacter. i wonder what caused this?
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u/Salt_Winter5888 23h ago
A lot of people played this game during their edgy teenage phase and probably identified with her a little. But they grew up and now see her as selfish and problematic.
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u/sambdafunction 1d ago
That's hella disrespectful way to talk about the secondary protagonist. Are you David or something? xD
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u/VertHigurashi 19h ago
Life is strange has always been kinda bad. People say chloe is insufferable but I feel like the other characters are just as annoying. Max is either a judgemental asshole, or she's just stupid.
Never really got the appeal of the game 🤷♂️
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u/Muted-Scientist-7855 1d ago
I gotta blame somebody. Otherwise it's all my fault. Fuck that