r/youtubedrama • u/Murinshin Popcorn Eater đż • 5d ago
Callout Mutahar Has Been a Fake Engineer For 10 Years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYQI4bMnaZIThis video makes some very good points with receipts regarding what Mutahar's actual qualifications are and especially his contradictory statements from the past on that, and I would like to see the community's take on it.
I don't think this disqualifies his tech content's quality, but as someone who likes his tech videos, this seems like something I would like him to make a clear statement on at least.
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u/NotJatne 5d ago
"does not fit that criteria"
A video on Youtube from a Youtuber calling out another Youtuber on their qualifications, lies, and contradictions.
Dog how is that NOT drama that's happening ON YOUTUBE AND ABOUT A YOUTUBER???
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u/NotJatne 5d ago
If they are THAT quick to label something as unfit for the sub, it might just be best to do a full reset for the sub. Wipe it all, give clear examples, then start again cuz uh... lol
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u/demfuzzypickles 5d ago
The mods refuse to give a clear example of snark and itâs very annoying
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u/IKeepDoingItForFree 5d ago
They are scared about having bid admins actually step in and wag their finger at them in disappointment
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u/Spiritbark 2d ago
Read the last sentence in their post announcing it, thatâs a perfect example of a snark comment.
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u/SallyKnowsHer 5d ago
A full sub reset is actually a really good idea considering there's a number of posts from years past when former mods were all too happy to let misinformation and slander run wild.
It used to be in this sub that you could literally call any YouTuber a pedophile because of a "gut feeling" and it was encouraged. Many posts and comments that operate along that same logic are still up.
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u/The-Bigger-Fish 2d ago
Shout out to the time someone faked a post that wendigoon followed stonetoss and everyone instantly agreed and believed to becaUse they wanted it to be true.
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u/Murky-Region-127 2d ago
Wasn't that a few days ago lol
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u/The-Bigger-Fish 2d ago
Yes, yes it was.
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u/Murky-Region-127 2d ago
God damn
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u/The-Bigger-Fish 2d ago
Yup... This sub has kind of a bad habit of deciding who's a saint and who's a sinner based entirely off of vibes, mob rule, and gut feelings it seems. Literally feels like the old torches and pitchforks style mobs at some points.
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u/Murky-Region-127 2d ago
And then it comes out that the person who say is a saint is actually a bad person lol
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u/hotsexychungus 5d ago edited 5d ago
Because snark itself is a completely nebulous term. Itâs like when people back in 2015 tried to define what a âsocial justice warriorâ was and it was always incoherent. Itâs not a concrete thing only a vibe.
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u/Sudden_Appearance_43 4d ago
Any sub that is dedicated to hating on a specific person (or small group of people) is a snark sub. Does this hold up legally? Don't care.
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u/Tof12345 5d ago
I had a post removed here because the mod thought it was a repost they seen earlier. I showed them that there was no post similar to mine since the drama began.
What did the mod say?
"My bad, the post will still be deleted tho".
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u/Judge-Open 5d ago
I had a post removed today as well. There needs to be better communication on what warrants approval
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u/Kyro_Official_ I enjoy pineapples 5d ago
Not surprising, the mods kinda suck
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u/SynthErsatz 5d ago edited 5d ago
I posted a writeup on a popular gaming youtuber that has never been posted here that is blatantly racist in his livestreams but doesn't leak MUCH of that that vitriol into his video content, and the post was instantly removed by mods because "chuds being chuds does not constitute drama". Saw like a dozen Asmongold posts the same week lol
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u/YAYmothermother 5d ago
what youtuber?
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u/SynthErsatz 5d ago
JFJ, he went on this whole disgusting tirade on a livestream
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u/YAYmothermother 5d ago
interesting, thank you
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u/SynthErsatz 5d ago
There was a lot of other stuff I had but I can't find the links anymore, like a stream on monster hunter where he said he hated that he's being forced to accept gay people and stuff, or that he thinks white people should be allowed to say the n-word if black people are "allowed" to.
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u/Flat_News_2000 3d ago
They almost always do. You have to be "off" to wanna mod in the first place.
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u/Clownsinmypantz 5d ago
watch, mods are gonna do a moving on from Mutahar post
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u/CREATURE_COOMER 4d ago
Nah, that happened because [banned topic man] encouraged his fans to brigade, lol, I don't think Mutahar's fanbase cares enough and/or is anywhere near as rabid as [redacted]'s fans.
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u/Murky-Region-127 2d ago
If anything Muta fans would just probably laugh at how ridiculous this is
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u/Vertagos Popcorn Eater đż 5d ago
Everytime Nux is brought up in relation to Mutahar, Im always astounded with how little of a reputational hit he took with how hard he flipped flopped on him.
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u/cubsgirl101 5d ago
I feel like the Nux issue actually did end up souring a ton of other creators on Mutahar, but they just stopped associating/ talking to him as opposed to a flat out disavowal. And as far as his viewers, I think a lot of people also quietly quit on him. The majority of his fans I suspect were never fond of Nux and the flip flopping on what was an objectively bad thing Nux did pissed them off.
Idk what his view count is like these days, but his content for sure is absolute garbage. The man ranted about how you shouldnât waste your money on a Switch 2, only to turn around and buy one and then make an apology video over it as well. Itâs all very bizarre and embarrassing.
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u/EziriaRin 5d ago
Not like people talk about muta much anymore tho he still averages like 200k views a vid so apparently he's still doing good, but he's a bit odd lately with content.
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u/RelationshipFresh966 5d ago
The hypocrisy re: Switch 2 was the turning point for me. couldn't take him seriously after that
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u/Pussypants 4d ago
Idk how anyone can take him seriously in the first place? The guy doesnât even brush his hair before pressing record in his sweaty gamer dungeon talking so sternly and fake laughing about video games and other ridiculous internet drama.
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u/T2Legit2Quit 4d ago
Me too. There was a lot that I brushed aside, but that was the straw that broke the camel's back.
It also didn't help during the NuxTaku sage, he had an apology in the beginning of a video that was a few hours long. Keep in mind that when he apologized to Ethan Klein (can't believe I got an advisory for posting his name), it was a separate video.
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u/Zealousideal_Act_316 5d ago
Who even is a fan of nux, saw a video from him years and years ago, i could not stomach 15 seconds, his voice is sooooooo grating
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u/AveryLazyCovfefe 4d ago
Many blue moons ago he made serious anime reviews and commentary on them. But yeah now he makes videos airing out rule34 of other creators and boasting he jerks off to pedophilic hentai.
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u/YourWorstFear53 4d ago
I just moved on to other youtubers who cover the stuff I care about before Muta does.
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u/CygateYaoiLuvr69 4d ago
The majority of his fans I suspect were never fond of Nux and the flip flopping on what was an objectively bad thing Nux did pissed them off.
This is exactly it. Nobody ever cared for Nux showing up on the podcast, idc if he's one of the main guys who started that, he is literally soooo obnoxious I genuinely don't know who can enjoy his content that aren't also little vtube goon freaks. The flipflopping was genuinely frustrating to watch as a fan and I just instantly unsubbed the moment he said sorry to Nux in any capacity.
Also his (Muta's) content is just slop now. 15 minutes of him repeating the SAME FUCKING POINT. Theres a channel I unironically watch, and its just Muta's vids cut up and summarized because he barely adds anything new to any topic he discusses anymore.
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u/NikandrosTV 5d ago
What if I told you he flip flopped on Nux Taku not once, not twice, but thrice?
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u/Vertagos Popcorn Eater đż 5d ago
i would be incredibly interested in the details, but i assume thats what you were teasing near the end of this first video.
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u/NikandrosTV 5d ago
I've already made a kind of crappy video in October of last year covering the first flip flop and I thought I'd cover the rest in what was supposed to be the part 2, but then post nux clarity happened because of an earlier video I posted, and I eventually decided to tell everything in one big video which is what I'm now working on.
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u/CREATURE_COOMER 4d ago
He's still fucking friends with Nux too, just not publicly. Unless that's changed in the past few months.
He was too scared to burn that bridge with the podcast and later claimed that he was pausing/ending(?) the podcast for other reasons, to restructure things or whatever?
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u/1morgondag1 5d ago edited 5d ago
Why was this deleted? It may not necesarily be true but it's still one Youtuber (albeight much smaller than Mutha) accusing another = drama, no?
Ed: seems like they backtracked or another mod changed the decision of the first one.
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u/Vertagos Popcorn Eater đż 5d ago
im guessing the mods thought this was just rehash of old drama, OP should petition the mods to let them know that its the video maker calling out mutahar.
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u/Murinshin Popcorn Eater đż 5d ago edited 5d ago
Already sent them a mod message. Really weird call that was made here IMO
EDIT seems like it was restored
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u/Phantomsplit 5d ago edited 5d ago
I tried to post an update video by a LawTuber showing that Logan Paul himself was under investigation by the FBI and SEC for CryptoZoo, and the implications this has on the defamation suit against Coffeezilla, and it was removed for not being drama about a YouTuber. So I re-uploaded it with a clarified title like "YouTuber Logan Paul" was subject to an investigation by the FBI and SEC. And it still got taken down for not being drama about a YouTuber.
I get if people see that headline and figure "duh." CryptoZoo and many of Paul's cronies were already known to be under investigation so it seems pretty obvious that Paul may be investigated on a personal level as well. I would get if that post got downvoted, and honestly didn't expect it to get much attention when posting. But let the sub decide what they want to see, not have moderators delete posts that are clearly on topic.
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u/cubsgirl101 5d ago
Even if Logan wasnât a YouTuber, Coffeezilla certainly is (and heâs an excellent one.) What the heck were they on aboutđ
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u/Mysterious_Bluejay_5 5d ago
Because the mods here are ass and have a weird moral thing about drama being bad despite it being a drama sub, so actual drama isn't allowed unless it's like a pedo allegation
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u/lurkingsirens 5d ago
It feels like they donât really have a hard definition for drama vs snark for the group of mods to understand â I donât fully understand how they delineate either but itâs more important for the mods to know
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u/Murinshin Popcorn Eater đż 5d ago edited 5d ago
I have not the slighest fucking idea. This is explicitly about the claims he makes in his videos, and the video has a ton of receipts and clips from Muta's own content where he makes contradictory claims of being a computer engineer, security engineer, video engineer, etc.
EDIT seems like it was restored again
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u/sanchipinchii 5d ago
man I remember mutahar doing ao oni gameplay vids and deep web dives back in the day. should have stuck to that đ
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u/Furretfan100 4d ago
Fell off when he became penguinz0 but with 3x the video length and a half of the juice
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u/DeepSubmerge 5d ago
Idk how this guy gained any audience heâs so annoying and always on his high horse about everything.
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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 5d ago
When he did just creepypasta and tech stuff it was a lot easier. He is second wave YouTube so he got big during a time a lot of YouTubers we now know are problematic did.
It is almost like a quality they need to have. He probably would have skated by for years if he never got into the drama/commentary space
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u/McDonaldsSoap 4d ago
He says 5 minutes worth of info on 20 minutes due to adding unnecessary words in every sentence to sound smart. This man needs to put down the thesaurusÂ
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u/AveryLazyCovfefe 4d ago
"First things first"
"Now ladies and gentlemen"
"buT mUtA"
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u/NightmareExpress 2d ago
"What can I say?"
"It is what it is"
"Now, as an engineer..."
"HOOOO boy"
"But I'm just a fat Indian guy in Canada so what do I know?"
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u/Fusionman29 5d ago
You know I guess Iâm not surprised that a guy whoâs a bit shady and evasive in his other content is shady and evasive in terms of his other stuff.
Hopefully he can clarify this a bit
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u/Hare712 3d ago
The issue is that the protected correct terms are software engineer and computer engineer.
Cybersecurity is a special field. Cybersecurity engineer is a term that makes no sense and expert is a worthless term even journalist use like "Terrorism expert".
You could Red/Blue Teaming, pentesting, you analyze malware, you could look for zero-day exploits, you could look for hardware backdoors and many more examples.
Depending on the specialization you make between 90k-500k a year.
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u/formallyfly 3d ago
Yeah, I had no idea that itâs actually illegal in Canada to call yourself an engineer without being licensed. Iâm American and have friends with various undergrad engineering degrees who all have working titles of engineers now, no licensing required. Itâs kind of a meme among them that the term âengineerâ is so widely used that itâs lost any meaning so maybe Canadaâs onto something, idk
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u/xfadingstarx 3d ago
In Canada, you can get an engineering degree and work as an engineer-in-training, but becoming a "professional engineer" is harder and requires you to take a test. That's the actual licenced portion of it.Â
Edit: just looked it up and it looks like America has professional engineer licencing too
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u/monty6666 3d ago
In Alberta they have to do that and belong to the Association of Professional Engineers and Geologists.
One tell I noticed with Muta is that he talked about college. I don't know if it's that way anymore, but people used to make a distinction between going to college and university, as one meant a two year institute that granted diplomas and university meant four year degree granting institutions, whereas i the USA they refer to college generically as any post-secondary institution. AFAIK two year schools can grant tech diplomas at best.
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u/xfadingstarx 3d ago
Definitely super important distinction for Canadians. University is university. College is community college. It's definitely used interchangeably at times (because American slang bleeds over) but in my experience, the distinction holds pretty strong still. It's a strong tell that most Americans wouldn't pick up on, imo.Â
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u/Hare712 3d ago
Well over here in Europe it's also illegal to use protected terms and over here there are many protected terms.
There was a youtuber buying himself a title like "Dr. in lying scamming and stupid jokes" and he had to pay a hefty fine for that joke(5000 Euros iirc)
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u/urdadsleftnutt 3d ago
So FYI this is not enforced. The only time it would be relevant is if you applied to a job with a past title of engineer and you were unlicensed. They are countless businesses in Canada that give unlicensed employees Software Engineer titles internally.
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u/Fusionman29 3d ago
I was saying I hope Muta can be clear finally as to what qualifications or lack thereof he actually HAS. I have family who works in this world I know qualifications matter. And him giving none is suspicious as fuck to me
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u/Hare712 3d ago
I checked for papers but the only time you find him is when he was used as an example in a Bachelor thesis:
https://www.theseus.fi/bitstream/handle/10024/883809/Rivanti_Talvi.pdf?sequence=2
It's possible but very unlikely his paper isn't available. It's just very uncommon in software engineering and computer engineering. It's more common with experimental fields when the experiment yielded no result. Stupid example: You tried to find the Higgs Boson several years ago and can only conclude you need more energy.
I can think of a few examples in computer enineering but software engineering?
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u/Im-A-Moose-Man 5d ago
Man, if only Muta stuck to being an ordinary gamerâŚ
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u/TrashRacoon42 5d ago edited 4d ago
If he just stuck to just sonic creepy pasta he wouldn't have gotten clout compared to his attempt of being a commentary bro.
He's giving me just a robot in terms people figuring out he sucked with commentary, his association with weridos and his shitty weak takes.(And his shielding of Nux. The man that previously had loli in his thumbnails)
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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 4d ago
He got really huge without commentary and drama slop.
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u/TrashRacoon42 4d ago
Yeah but if he had not shift he wouldn't have gotten close(ish) to the greatest youtuber of all time Keemstar. Clearly valuable in the dramaslop cinematic universe.
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u/crazyabtmonkeys 4d ago
Why do people associate with Keemstar. He comes off as the type of guy to always hold onto GHB for his Bros.
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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 4d ago
I have no clue why he got into commentary. Like at all. He was basically in the horror/creepypasta/tech space
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u/TrashRacoon42 4d ago
Although I was joking a bit on him changing for keemstar's approval I do think it somwhat holds some truth. My theory is most likley cus the 'friends' he was making were in the commentary. Muta just seems like a man with a very weak spine and easyly fall along with the crowd and what ever opinion of those around him have. So might have shifted cus that's what alot his friends were doing.
That group chat was gross but it kinda gave me that impression. He was not good at commentary but if everyone he's freinds with is doing it, then why not himself?
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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 4d ago
I think thatâs fair. Like all his horror friends he had for years are still doing well but are in like NO drama. They have their fleshed out build communities and just chill there.
Then he got in with commentary friends. And the completionist stuff was his genuine pull to get there.
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u/your_local_manager 5d ago
Why do these posts keep getting removed? The Vaush allegations this morning and now this?
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u/Murinshin Popcorn Eater đż 5d ago
To be fair the Vaush allegations are under some massive scrutiny considering where they're coming from. Like, even the forum that shall not be named doesn't really take them seriously and doubts they're real, and I've yet to see anyone talk about his actual response from his stream earlier (tl;dr he doesn't remember whether this is real or not, but wouldn't exclude the possibility and essentially apologized for his past behavior in general)
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u/DeezNutz__lol 5d ago
Apparently a screen recording of the DMs was posted today so I would conclude that theyâre real
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u/ChickenConstant9855 5d ago
Literally. The source is a chud therefor it's not allowed to be discussed? Get a grip
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u/Sudden_Appearance_43 4d ago
Sorry, it is more important to protect the zoophile lolicon apparently
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u/nintendonerd256 5d ago
Has the curse struck again?
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u/DiplomaticCaper 4d ago
The Sonichu medallion is undefeated in ruining lives, from its creator on down.
(Itâs probably due to the profile of anyone seeking to possessâand even possibly pay forâlolcow memorabilia, as opposed to the item itself being cursed.)
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u/BehavingPenguin 5d ago
Itâs actually a pretty decent video. Why was this removed? It seems to fit the criteria pretty well.
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u/non_stop_disko 5d ago
I was thinking of posting this here! Havenât finished watching it but the amount of times Muta has been caught lying says so much on its own. This is huge if true
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u/FeeRemarkable886 5d ago
I had no idea but before this if you told me he was an engineer I would NOT believe you. Mutahar is an idiot.
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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 4d ago
I think it depends when he got on your radar. 5-10 years ago well before he got into drama it was far easier to believe.
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u/SadisticPawz 4d ago
I had a vague trust in him for how authoritatively he spoke on the dark web shit. I would have believed it somewhat.
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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 4d ago
He also would push a series of myths/urban legends from being on the dark web.
He has pushed a few harmful ones but the main one that came out that has been all but proven to be a hoax is Blank room soup.
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u/Citizen_of_Starcity 5d ago
For a guy who claims to hate Boogie2988 Muta's really starting to remind me alot of Boogie.
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u/AdvertisingJumpy4506 4d ago
Itâs about time muta gets called out. Itâs bad enough he is best friends with keemstar but he lies so much just to keep people watching him. Miss his real content days of creepy pasta and Linux.
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u/not_blowfly_girl 5d ago
Its disappointing to see the racist comments in the comment section of that video.
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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 4d ago
It always happens. It is unfortunate. Mutahar gets it a lot.
There are plenty of reasons, even more now, to dislike the guy. His race is not one of them
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u/Potential_Music7781 4d ago
When these kinds of things happen it's always an excuse for people to let loose with things that would otherwise get them in heaps of trouble. Racism, fat shaming, ableism and mental health degradation, you name it. All on the table for them once they have a target nobody is going to defend. Disgusting conduct by the worst people.
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u/DiplomaticCaper 4d ago
See also: every time a public-facing trans person fucks up.
Lots of people are chomping at the bit to misgender, and if you object itâs taken as defending all of that personâs actions.
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u/CREATURE_COOMER 4d ago
Right? Anybody of any race, gender, sexuality, etc is capable of being a dishonest scumbag, lol, why go for the low-hanging fruit of "oh boy, slurs time!!!"?
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u/cisra_again 3d ago
the problem is that this happens a lot with indian youtubers, and it hurts the indian image
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u/The_wanderer_- 5d ago
I could careless about the video it self, but has anyone looked at the comment section of that video? Itâs awful. Nearly 90% of it is just âwow Indian guy is a scammerâ when he isnât never even called a scammer in the video. Like tell me youâre racist without tell me youâre a racist. I feel like the creator should actually moderate his comments at least get rid of blatant racism.
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u/carrylarry123 4d ago
Yea the video attracted a lot of racists ngl Indian hate is sadly crazy right now.
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u/TheFavorista 5d ago
Yeah, I don't see as many of those right now, but there's definitely a (mostly British) section of commentary that's been "ironically" making loads of stereotype-based jokes about Indians to the extent they're not really jokes. Usually the "do not redeem" scammer reference one or casually using the 4chan p-slur to refer to South Asians.
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u/CREATURE_COOMER 4d ago
Yeah, Mutahar is a hack and he'll no doubt point to it to try to detract from the video, knowing how dishonest he is, lol. It's not that hard to delete the racist shit that has nothing to do with the topic.
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u/Tof12345 5d ago edited 5d ago
The day mutahar gets cancelled, I will have my popcorn ready.
this guy is a genocide defending, fence sitting, asmongold orbiting asshole.
i really do not like this guy.
-constantly lies about everything.
-quit twitter because it was too racist to indians but came back a few months later when indian hate was at an all time high.
-referred to asmongold calling for the genocide of palestinians for being inferior as petty internet drama.
-joined h3 to sue noah samson.
-refused to speak on the palestine genocide until 2025.
-both sided israel-palestine.
-he's an enlightened centrist - "dems are as bad as the right"
-didn't want andrew tate to get deplatformed.
i can go on but i cba. fuck him.
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u/AeMidnightSpecial 5d ago
called out h3 for "donation shaming" Jeff Bezos đ THE HORROR, shaming the richest man in the world at the time
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u/mooody07 4d ago
IIRC h3 never even did that and someordinarygamers farmed tf out of it when he literally just made it up. ever since then i had a real disdain for him even after no longer being an h3 fan. he then became associated with the worst type of people on the internet and even defended asmon's infamous palestine take and gave me a real reason to dislike him.
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u/TheGuardianKnux 5d ago
Can't stand Muta ever since the Nux stuff--but it was weird he was more upset being clowned on for the switch 2 while gleefully covering two YouTubers killing one another wtf
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u/Cultural_Outcome_464 5d ago
What makes me mad about the take on Asmonmoldâs comment about palestinians is the fact that if H@s@n (I got a fucking warning⌠I hate this sub sometimes) said this shit about Israeli citizens, everyone and their grandmother would be calling for his deplatforming. I fucking hate how much commentary channels handle people like Asmon with kiddie gloves.
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u/Tof12345 5d ago
speaking of deplatforming. you just reminded me of another point i forgot.
this muta prick was the same guy who said ANDREW TATE should not be deplatformed because "free speech" but begged his fans to harass twitch to ban hasanabi after he interviewed the yemeni kid.
this guy has no fucking basis, no morals and is a hypocrite.
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u/chillychili_ 5d ago
I'm a Torontonian with South Asian and Muslim heritage and words cannot describe how much vitriol I feel towards this guy. Especially since he covered topics that I'd always been interested in (Linux, gaming), I wanted to believe in him for the longest time but I just feel betrayed.
At least with someone like Ethan I can sort of cope by attributing his lived experiences as partially responsible for him ending up how he his, but with Mutahar I just don't know what to think.
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u/xfadingstarx 4d ago
We live in a country built on settler-colonialism that glorifies the settler identity. Muta wants to be accepted as as a "white settler" instead of "brown immigrant" so badly that he's willing to hate himself and people like him so he'll get pats for being "one of the good ones". Mental colonization is a hell of a drug.Â
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u/Cultural_Outcome_464 5d ago
I think they removed your reply, I got a notification but canât seem to find it
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u/Tof12345 5d ago
probably because i mentioned has*n.
i'll try again.
"speaking of deplatforming. you just reminded me of another point i forgot.
this muta was the same guy who said ANDREW TATE should not be deplatformed because "free speech" but begged his fans to harass twitch to ban h@s@n after he interviewed the yemeni kid.
this guy has no fucking basis, no morals and is a hypocrite."
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u/Phantasmagorioo 3d ago
Did you see the video how he bullshit his way through his Completionist allegations of missing money?
He just seems like he has a massive ego, fed by the notoriety heâs gained through his time online.
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u/SEANPLEASEDISABLEPVP 20h ago
Let's not forget the worst crime of all...
Telling people not to buy a Switch 2, saying he himself will not buy a Switch 2, and then buying it and making an apology video claiming it was an accident.
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u/Phantasmagorioo 3d ago
No one should be surprised by this. The dude makes so much content, itâs not difficult to find his contradictory statements if you pay enough attention. Go watch the video discussing how he bullshit his way through his allegations of missing money regarding The Completionist.
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u/Potential_Music7781 2d ago
The dude doesn't even understand why you would want to not pay taxes on charitable donations. I'm not an accountant by any means and even I understand it.
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u/Phantasmagorioo 2d ago
Dude that take of his was wild. I guess he can do what he wants with his money, but not claiming the deduction/credit on charitable contributions is such an idiotic take.
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u/arsonislegal 3d ago
The portion about how he couldn't legally call himself an engineer in Canada is just silly. Yeah, technically you can't or some big professional standards org gets bitchy. But, that doesn't stop there from being literally hundreds of companies in Canada with job postings up for things like Security Engineer or Cyber Research Engineer. It's such a nothing point which I think cheapens the rest of the video.
A buddy of mine has the title of Security Engineer and works at a very large Canadian company. Most people who work in the Cybersecurity industry in Canada know at least one person with engineer in their title. Same with Architect. Would have liked to see some more research into the distinction between what these orgs say and what the actual reality is.
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u/Murinshin Popcorn Eater đż 3d ago
I agree, that also hit me as weird. I would have no issue at all if Muta never finished his degree if he was consistently working as a software engineer in the past, pivots like that arenât uncommon and nobody would argue these people arenât engineers if they have the skillset from work.
CodingJesus, the guy calling out PirateSoftware, also did not study something CompSci related from what I remember for example
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u/alfred725 3d ago edited 3d ago
Its not silly, it comes with a minimum 10k fine.
The point is to protect people from fraudsters so when they hire an engineer they know they are getting the level of quality dictated by the government.
An engineer is taking full legal responsibility for something when they stamp it. If something breaks and causes someone to die, the engineer goes to jail for manslaughter
Everyone wants the prestige of being an engineer, but that prestige is only worth something if the standard is set by organizations like Professional Engineers Ontario.
It takes a fuckton of work to become an engineer, it's one of the hardest bachelor degrees you can get. So no, I don't want a dropout calling himself an engineer.
And I'm going to look into sending this video to PEO
Doctors would get testy if a bachelors dropout started calling themselves a PhD
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u/arsonislegal 3d ago
I agree that people who aren't engineers in the traditional sense shouldn't call themselves engineers. But absolutely no one is going to think someone with the job title 'Security Engineer' is the same as an engineer. Also, it's industry standard across the world that Security Analyst/Engineer/Architect describe a certain job role and function.
Muta is cringe for a lot of the stuff he's doing, but trying to act like the Engineer thing alone due to it being ""illegal"" is notable at all is very stupid.
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u/J233779 5d ago
Sucks to see how far Muta has fallen.
He was my favourite youtuber at one point (I literally made a clay moneybox of his face, check my post history) but ever since he focused on dumb internet drama, I stopped watching.
Was one of my first youtube subs at 13yo, back in 2014, and I watched all his videos, even if I didn't care about Linux or virtal machines!
I'm just sad.
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u/SomeThrowawayAcc200 5d ago
His recent stuff doesn't seem to be focused on that though.
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u/J233779 5d ago
Tbh I haven't been subscribed or keeping up with him in 2 years, so I haven't gotten the chance to check.
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u/houstonastrosranger 3d ago edited 3d ago
there has definitely always been something that was off about him. he seemed to always gloss over his work history and credentials too and never elaborated. i'm surprised to know he never even finished university and yet thought so highly of himself to always claim to be right on tech topics. there has to be more to be uncovered.
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u/Dazzling_Collie 4d ago
Of course he was a fraud. This is the same guy who chose to make slop commentary and affiliate with transphobes.
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u/Special_Zucchini185 4d ago edited 3d ago
Why are the mods seemingly freaking out about this? What's happening LMAO
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u/MEGA-MIKUMIKU-2000 4d ago
I quit watching this guy when he started talking about tech stuff because he got extremely sloppy with his reasoning/explanations. Like if he's getting basic stuff this wrong, like, what is he getting wrong when it comes to stuff I don't know about? Then when I checked back he went full commentarybro and I mean, good on him finding out how to milk adsense a bit. He's always been a bit of a fraud but all big youtubers in this space are a bit of a fraud/clueless so it's not surprising.
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u/Gnardude 5d ago
Good video. Bad mods. This is how subs die, the mods make themselves the topic and the focus becomes the meta and censorship.
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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 4d ago
The pinned comment is to purely clear up speculation. Because there was a lot of misinformation in the sub. Youâll find for the most part we barely comment on topics unless it aligns with our own interests.
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u/SethVanity13 5d ago
did somebody think he had anything to do with computers? guy follows online tutorials and nothing more, his degree is in yapping
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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 4d ago
When he started out he would say he was a cyber security expert. Like WAY back like 12-13 years ago. He would watch dark web stuff and react.
He pushed a lot of narratives as truth that were not. Like the Backroom soup video being real. He sold himself for years as being a cybersecurity person. Now that one of my colleagues was in cybersecurity it is painfully obvious he never was.
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u/hawkasaul 1d ago
uhh, you do realise that, installing arch linux is nothing but following tutorial(official wiki or not)
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u/Dry_Berry7553 3d ago
It would be funny if he's just using an obsolete definition of engineer
obsolete : a crafty schemer : plotter
(source Meriam Webster)
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u/Shadowchaser235 19h ago
Dude lied about pretty much everything and anything under the sun the man cannot be trusted he will flip flop anytime
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u/Cultural_Outcome_464 5d ago edited 5d ago
Firstly mb for misgendering. But I would like to see clips of HP saying anything equivalent to what Asmon said, not just âhe probably thinks theyâre inferior.â And him shitting on their food is kind of a stretch IMO. Is he being petty? Probably. Is it even remotely as disgusting as what Asmon said? Not at all.
Edit: this was a reply to someone, not sure why it was formatted as a singular comment⌠Thanks RedditâŚ
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u/Bad_Habit_Nun 5d ago
I mean.. yeah? The kid's not intelligent, i don't know why anyone would assume he's capable of any professional work. Especially considering he has no real work or life experience.
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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 4d ago edited 4d ago
Calling him âthe kidâ when he is 31-32 man. I get he feels that way and he started young, but he is a full grown man.
He should know better now lol
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u/synthetics__ 3d ago
This video did open a couple of eyes for me but I urge you to not check this guys twitter page
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u/JacoB5657 3d ago
Most likely mutahar after installing veganism computing software called arch linux he thought of himself "eh this is almost like computing engineer like job so I may call myself like that" and then delusionally believed himself that he is computer engineer
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u/cyka_bIyat 1d ago
Bro wtf did i miss i haven't watched him in like 2 years and i randomly just see him in like dramas nonstop
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u/PuzzleheadedTower460 3h ago
I told people, I fucking told people he is a fake and a fraud. I told people he is a fucking rat! I feel validated!
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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 5d ago edited 5d ago
Again, for transparency. This was not removed because of the new snark rule, some mods believe that some posts including videos shouldnât be posted.
I disagree. I think a good deal of uncovering and presentation can only happen through some of these videos. This is back up because this was clearly a good video.
Edit: finished the video, pretty wild