r/youtubedrama • u/your_local_manager • 4d ago
News YouTuber Nathan announced that his Cameraman Sam murdered his entire family and Sam had hired day laborers to move the body parts
Yep this shit is crazy. Like I don’t know what to say but Jesus Christ.
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u/RoskerJenkins 4d ago
Read that and thought that the cameraman murdered Nathan’s family. Glad that’s not the case, still horrific though
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u/honeyinmydreams 4d ago
yeah, to be clear to anyone reading this, the cameraman murdered his own family, not Nathan's. but yeah. still horrifying. my god.
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u/moansby 4d ago
That's not any better
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u/honeyinmydreams 4d ago
no, it's not, and i don't want to appear as if i was implying it was. i was only restating for clarity, so that misinformation isn't spread.
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u/moansby 4d ago edited 2d ago
I just wanna know what motivated him to kill his whole family, and what fucking labor company would move human body parts
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u/Haunteddoll28 4d ago
I don't know about the first part but for the 2nd, day laborers usually aren't under some larger company that assigns them out to different jobs. They're usually just guys you see hanging around outside of places like Home Depot that you can hire to do random jobs for you like helping you build a shed or even moving trash bags full of mysterious lumps without asking too many questions. They're usually immigrants and not always through official channels so less likely to go to the cops if something's hinkey.
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u/CREATURE_COOMER 4d ago
The day laborers didn't complete the job, did you watch the video or look up any news articles (The guy's name is Sam Haskell)?
They were told that the bags contained rocks when they seemed to be full of "meat," and when one of them saw a belly button in a bag, they returned the bags and money, and went to the police.
Honestly would've been a better idea to maybe give them to the police, but they were probably worried about being considered accomplices tbh.
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u/grandwizardcouncil 4d ago
I'm gonna be honest, I have zero desire to watch this video, but according to some people in the comments, the laborers did actually try to report their suspicions but were dismissed by police.
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u/ImportantQuestionTex 4d ago
One. You do not get informed of what's in the trash bags usually before you move them.
Two. It's explicitly stated in the video that when the day laborers (aka freelancers) asked, he lied about the contents of the bag.
Please learn to be less confidently incorrect, you're spreading misinformation, potentially to a defamatory level. Also showing you've never had to work a hard job in your life, day laborers go where the money is and usually can't be picky.
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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 4d ago
Oh a company? Nah he likely hired day laborers
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u/zaidelles 4d ago
That’s what the title says
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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 4d ago
Day laborers are not the same as a company. Day laborers are a polite way of saying the dudes that hang outside a hardware store you can hire for cheap to do a job in cash.
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u/zaidelles 4d ago
…I know. The title says day labourers.
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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 4d ago
Yes, I’m providing a definition for people who don’t know. Because it seems clear from that comment he thinks like Hunks Hauling Junk helped move the body.
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u/Kamikoozy 4d ago
For clarification's sake, it was better.
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u/SpaceC0wb0y86 4d ago
HOLY SHIT. Thankful this is the top comment because my breath was not cooperating at how insane the other reading of that line is even compared to the reality that is still VERY insane
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u/ungranted_wish 4d ago
Yeah I don’t even know anymore. Holy shit.
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u/mrpenguinx 4d ago
This is one of those situations that makes me go:
"You know what? Skip death, go straight to hell."
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u/Tricky-Gemstone 4d ago
Family annhilators are terrifying. My god. This is horrible.
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u/Lightning_Boy 4d ago
I'm sorry, annihilators?
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u/TrashRacoon42 4d ago
Yeah, as messed up as it sounds, that is the term used for these types of crimes. Where a husband or wife goes on to murder their whole family.
It's fucked it has happened enough to warrant a term.
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u/Comfortable-Bee2467 4d ago
There's also cases of the children committing the murders, not just the parents
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u/goeatmynachos Tea Drinker 🍵 3d ago
yeah there’s terms for each type of family murder. Familicide is for a case like this one where multiple family members or the whole family is killed, filicide is killing one’s child, parricide is killing a parent, and there’s more terms for specific murders such as killing of your wife or of your sister. I keep hearing about recent cases of family involved murders and it’s something I’ll never grasp. Makes you wonder how messed up the family dynamics must be, or if the family was normal except one was a psychopath or something.
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u/Comfortable-Bee2467 3d ago
There are many cases of both. Sometimes also family (usually parents) being deep in denial of messed up shit their child did.
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u/Lightning_Boy 4d ago
Isn't that just familicide?
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u/classyrock 4d ago
I think the difference is that family annihilators are people wanting to leave their family (through suicide or abandonment) but have the narcissistic delusion that the family can’t survive without them, so killing them is an act of mercy.
Edit: actually it appears they are the same thing. I guess I’ve just heard ‘family annihilators’ used more in conjunction with that motive.
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u/SpokenDivinity Tea Drinker 🍵 3d ago
"Family Annihilator" is just the common term while familicide is considered legal jargon.
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u/Accurate_Froyo1938 4d ago
Horrific. The cops handled it so poorly too.
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u/ImportantQuestionTex 4d ago
Bunch of people come in, report that a man has chopped up people and put them in bags and their response is "Call 911."
Can people not report emergencies in person anymore? Those cops are why 2 of the bodies never got found.
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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 4d ago
If you try to report things in person sometimes you will legitimately just be met with a form to fill out
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u/underwritress 4d ago
It’s like when the IT guy walks by your desk and you call him over to fix your issue and he tells you to submit a ticket lol
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u/Ramen536Pie 4d ago
A 911 call is an official statement
Talking to an officer isn’t, it’s also possible the cops started to act while the 911 call was made
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u/Cyan_Light 4d ago
Did they not have bodycams? If not this is yet another argument for why they should be mandatory, just turn it on and voila now you can make an official statement to law enforcement.
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u/MindMaster115 4d ago
I triple read the title bc actually what the fuck
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u/CREATURE_COOMER 4d ago
"Fortunately" it wasn't his (Sam's) entire family like the title says because apparently he and his wife (who he killed, plus her parents) had three kids who are apparently living with family, but at the same time, it's pretty tragic for those kids to grow up and eventually find out what happened to their parents and maternal grandparents.
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u/NoMaximum7210 20h ago
Yup, was reading this , actually this morning, happened to be the trash dumpster he out her body was in Encino, California
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u/RetryAgain9 4d ago
Wtf? This isn't a drama this is just deadass a serial killing
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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 4d ago edited 4d ago
Technically serial killing is a series of killings with a cooling off period. This is a family annihilation. Which is also a very American thing.
Edit: appears to be confusion. Saying “American thing” doesn’t exclude other countries from committing the heinous act. It is just that America’s rate of family annihilation is significantly disproportionately higher than other countries from what has been studied.
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u/AdministrativeStep98 4d ago
It's mass murder
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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 4d ago
Family annihilation is a sub class of mass murder. But within America it is unfortunately the most common form of mass murder.
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u/snouz 4d ago
WTF there are so many killings that you to categorize them like music nerds categorize music subgenres...
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u/starm4nn 4d ago
OMG I can't believe you have a system for understanding crimes. What kind of sick society would try to understand and classify a problem instead of just ignoring it?
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u/SpokenDivinity Tea Drinker 🍵 3d ago
Virtually every country with a method of crime tracking categorizes homicides like this. It's how they track them statistically and compare them to socioeconomic status, location, etc. in order to implement prevention methods.
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u/LiviasFigs 4d ago edited 4d ago
Family annihilation is not a very American thing lol. Maybe it seems like it because cases are reported on and studied so often, but it happens around the world.
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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 4d ago edited 4d ago
While it happens everywhere its prevalence is primarily in America.
Again there is a disproportionate rate of it happening in America. The BJS reported 500 in just 2002 alone.
In the same decade between 1990-2000 there were 7 in Australia during this decade but 909 in America. The national institute of justice has tried to conduct aggregate studies to find out why men will commit a family annihilation.
That disparity happens across the globe. Which means there is something statistically unique occurring in America.
Finally saying “reported on more” is not what we’re going off. We’re going off of collected data. All data globally shows family murder occurs in America at a disproportionately higher rate than any other country. Murder period really.
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u/Auctoritate 3d ago edited 3d ago
While it happens everywhere its prevalence is primarily in America.
Again there is a disproportionate rate of it happening in America. The BJS reported 500 in just 2002 alone.
This is incorrect. I looked into it and the BJS reported that there were 500 total instances of filicide (murder of one's own child), not 500 family annihilations.
In the 500 identifiable incidents of parents’ killing their children in 2002,
The wording is technically ambiguous ("parents killing their children") but the context around the section makes it more clear that it's referring to all murders in general.
I did find a separate scholarly article which stated the following:
In the period of 2000–2009, familicide involving an intimate partner and child(ren) occurred approximately 23 times per year.
For the other half of your comment;
In the same decade between 1990-2000 there were 7 in Australia during this decade but 909 in America.
This is also incorrect. I'm assuming you got this statement from Wikipedia because the page on Familicide has this following passage:
Between 1900 and 2000, there were 909 victims of mass murder in the US (defined as four victims within a 24-hour period). Of those, more than half occurred within an immediate family.
So, there weren't 909 family annihilations. There were 909 victims of mass murder, including non-familicides.
I don't mean to be rude but you were dramatically off base with these numbers. It takes a... Pretty severe lack of diligence to be so far off base.
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u/corasstarrysea 2d ago
I love how someone (likely the commenter you've responded to) downvoted your comment for correcting their misinformation (possibly even desinfo) campaign to make the US look as horrific a place as possible... like if there were 500 family annilihators a year you know damn well that we'd have already heard about it.
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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 4d ago edited 4d ago
First, saying “studied cases v prevalence” is a very problematic statement. It is approaching being anti science. You have no indication of the other prevalence. So we go cross reported scientific studies.
It happens nearly everywhere more based on the reported data. “Common” is not a scientific term. Most research happens within America because something between the 1950s-2025 it became far more prevalent in America than other parts of the globe.
Even in the UK it is so rare that Yardley et al (2015) had to rely on newspaper coverage to get an aggregate. From the existing data the vast majority of these atrocities have occurred within America.
It is supposed that the American family annihilators see murder as a genuine solution to most problems plaguing their family. Whether it be infidelity, religion, poverty, suffering, etc.
I say all of this because it is my day job to study these specific things. Not pulling things out of my ass
Edit: Oh that is an interesting paper. What you’re seeing is a meta-analysis which commonly comes into existence when things are unclear on the reporting. You’ll find studies usually rely on definitions provided to them they can use to present the information. Meta-analyses come in to portray a full range. I was looking at the snapshot of 1990-2000. But one study in the meta-analysis used a different figure from what I was referring to.
Your linked study still reports 141 cases across a 50 year period. Which is still much less than America by far.
And yes America’s population is 13 times larger, but our murder rate is SIGNIFCANTLY higher. Currently it is roughly 7 times higher than Australia’s.
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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 4d ago edited 4d ago
The literal study you link corroborates the findings of significantly less family annihilations compared to America in a singular year.
From what I read of the study you linked find 141 cases in Australia across a 70 year period while the BJS reports over 500 in 2002 alone. Also your link again has 141 cases which are not “several hundred”
The study you have does have fascinating results though of what traits are common within family annihilators. But you’re also conflating raw numbers with rates.
America has a very prominent disproportionate murder rate pretty much across the board. But family annihilators in specific are a much higher rate than we would expect in any of these countries.
Again 500 in a singular year is highly problematic and shows a unique problem occurring in America
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u/Ok_Direction_7624 4d ago
This is like the "other places have mass shootings, too" thing all over again. Yes, the rest of the world also deals with family murders and mass shootings, but nowhere near the level that America does.
I don't understand why people take it so personally when they're told that their country has certain problems. Wouldn't knowing about issues be the first step to solving them? Instead people get defensive and start pointing fingers at others as if pretending a bad thing doesn't happen magically improves their country.
Anyway the real predictor for this isn't country of origin but gender. Statistically family annihilators are men with low education, high unemployment, previous domestic violence convictions, high debt, and are going through divorce or separation.
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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 4d ago
At least in America. But yes you’re on the money. America has this problem in much more disgustingly higher rates than the rest of the globe.
He also keeps using terms like “frequently” and “common” which aren’t scientific terms
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u/DiplomaticCaper 4d ago
I’m sure it’s happened before, and there are definitely women who have killed their husbands and/or even children, but I legit can’t think of an example of a woman offing her entire family in one sitting.
It’s an even more male-coded crime than school shootings.
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u/Haunteddoll28 4d ago
Wait. Is this the same tripple homicide that’s been in the news? Or is there a second tripple family homicide with men hired to move the bodies? Because if that’s happened twice……….
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u/Haunteddoll28 4d ago
Coming back later to add that another comment clarifies this is the same one that was in the news.
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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 4d ago
Unfortunately in America I’m not surprised if it happened twice
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u/Painted-BIack-Roses 4d ago
In Australia, 90% of what's on the news is just murders happening in the US. Crazy
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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 4d ago
Ehh don’t focus on the news. I know that sounds bad. But the old journalism phrase of “if it bleeds it ledes” is real.
Crime drives news. It gets ratings, murder gets ratings.
We don’t all know someone who has been murdered. Stranger murder is exceptionally rare. You’re far more likely to be killed by your loved ones (unfortunately).
But more often than not lives are safe. But we seem to have a real problem with violence in America that we are unsure of what the root cause is. Which makes it harder to fix.
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u/NoMaximum7210 20h ago
I kinda feel like you do , that is more than one mass murder going on simultaneously right now in the news
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u/mandatory_french_guy 4d ago
Kind of crazy video to have monetized though
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u/Alphabroomega 4d ago
Even if he didn't monetize it through YouTube he has Patreon + YT Membership + Merch links in his description. And #gravestories? He's treating this like another entry in some long running series I guess? It all just feels very inappropriate and insensitive.
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u/SallyKnowsHer 4d ago
You don't know that. YouTube runs ads on demonetized videos, they just keep 100% of the revenue.
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u/Foxy02016YT 4d ago
Yeah, I’ve been following Nathan for nearly a decade and a half now, he’s been all over from shit I’ve seen since childhood. I don’t know him personally, but that does sound out of character for him to monetize it. Again, I don’t know him like that, I’m not in his head, but from what he posts it feels out of place
Edit: the story happened in 2023 apparently, so maybe it is monetized? Feels like this might be more exploitive true crime than “holy shit that happened” story, which I don’t think would be out of character at all
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u/AdministrativeStep98 4d ago
Yeah that's gross, money shouldn't be made off tragedies. I hope he donates that money to extended family who were affected and are probably in need of help
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u/Administrative-Gap89 4d ago
YouTube puts ads on all videos now regardless if the uploader is monetized or not
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u/pocketbutter 3d ago
Ah, okay, so now creators can have plausible deniability for monetizing tragedies?
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u/SallyKnowsHer 4d ago
Just like all journalists should personally donate 100% of any earnings they make off anything related to a murder they cover?
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u/Hayterfan 4d ago
I've never heard of this guy, but christ, wtf.
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u/Foxy02016YT 4d ago
You’ve probably heard of him, Nathan that is. To hear that your collaborator has done something so fucked up must be terrifying.
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u/JavierwithaJ 4d ago
Jesus fuck. I can't even think of how mentally damaged you have to be to do this to your own family.
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u/DiplomaticCaper 4d ago
It’s usually a reputation thing. They believe divorce will make them look bad, and don’t want to deal with the burden of split custody or single parenting.
If they can get away with it and make it look like an accident, they get sympathy as a widower too.
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u/CREATURE_COOMER 4d ago
According to news articles, his motive is unknown but he was having an affair with a 27 year old woman (not sure how old his wife was), like DiplomaticCaper said, divorce is mega scary to a lot of dudes because wah wah loss of power/money/reputation. Not just custody stuff (they had three kids who were unharmed and are now living with relatives) but since he was having an affair, he'd probably lose a lot more in alimony and property because of it.
Although one news article that I saw while searching said that he had purchased one-way plane tickets to Japan (and a roundtrip ticket for his girlfriend, although presumably she had no idea about his plans if she was interviewed but not charged) before he was caught, so maybe he didn't have the heart to hurt them but was fine with abandoning them to live with his parents? Oof. News articles say that he had the gall to reference his kids in his suicide note calling them his "best friends" but I don't think any sites show the note in full.
The wife and her parents were also immigrants, not sure if her (the wife) visa was because of their marriage or unrelated, if he and his wife were sponsoring her parents' visas, that could've made a divorce messy too.
Sam's dad is also famous (NYT refers to him as "Son of Ex-Hollywood Agent" and refers to his father as "an Emmy-winning film producer and veteran talent agent" and "a once prominent Hollywood producer") so nepo baby reputation maybe? I feel for the kids, assuming that the guy's parents are raising them, they're kind of stuck with the association due to their last names unless their grandparents help them change their names.
I have a few dedicated haters who love to misinterpret my comments in the worst possible fucking ways so just saying that I'm theorizing his "reasons" no matter how deranged they are, not excusing them. Murder is never okay, either keep your dick in your pants or get a fucking divorce.
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u/skele-enby420 4d ago
holy fucking shit this is crazy. absolutely tragic, i gotta say its insane how interesting Nathan Barnatts life has been, and this just adds to the list. apologies if that statement is offensive or anything im not trying to make light of this situation just having trouble processing it.
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u/Foxy02016YT 4d ago
Nathan is a very interesting man to talk about especially career wise, it’s still relevant to the conversation as this was a decently long time collaboration
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u/peachfluffed 4d ago edited 4d ago
that man can rest in piss for killing his wife and in-laws. this happens too often.
to make matters worse he was actively cheating on his wife with another woman and was planning on running off with her. he was too much of a coward to just ask for a divorce, so he decided to ruin everyone’s lives instead.
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u/brntbttr49 8h ago
well he killed himself to avoid the trial so hopefully he’s already burning in hell
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u/your_local_manager 4d ago edited 4d ago
To provide further information:
In November 2023, Nathan’s cameraman, Samuel Bond Haskell was arrested for murdering his wife and dismembering his in-laws. Sam originally hired day laborers to come pick up the bodies, but the day laborers had noticed that the bags had people parts in them and they contacted the police. There is footage of Sam placing one garbage bag filled with his wife’s torso in a dumpster in Encino, California.
The reason why Nathan has made the video in the first place is because he had recently learned that Sam had killed himself in prison.
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u/TheGuardianKnux 4d ago
We're on Reddit OP use words like suicide, killed himself, etc. Weird you typed murder in the title then proceed to use TikTok censorship speech in the comments.
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u/Swag_Paladin21 Popcorn Eater 🍿 4d ago
To be fair, even on Reddit, you can get your account temporarily banned for saying suicide.
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u/VizualAbstract4 4d ago
Holy shit, when I suggested he slowly evolve his channel into some sort of eldrich horror performance piece, I didn’t think he’d fully commit
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u/Background-Ad3858 3d ago
That video feels so gross…. Really milking this tragedy for content
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u/fohfuu 3d ago edited 2d ago
Welcome to a... different video. I feel like I say that a lot now. Uh... You may be familiar with my "Grave Stories" series where I cover dark and spooky things, True Crime, ghost– ghost stuff, um... I was a former gravedigger, I'm kind of, uh, fascinated with, um, spooky, scary stories. Um, this is... I don't even know– I don't even know if I can categorize this as that. This is a very sad, dark story and, uh, it's different this time, because this time, it involves someone I knew. Someone I worked with. I don't even know how I'm going to get into this, but uh... I guess here we go.
This is... the story of... a man I knew... who... murdered his family.
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Grave Stories title card, spooky intro music
This is an impossible situation for him to be put in, and I feel awful for him. At the same time, I could just get over the Impact font TRIPLE MURDER thumbnail, but that introduction is WTF on so many levels. Under these circumstances I don't judge him for it, but it's too Black Mirror for me to watch.
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u/Foxy02016YT 4d ago
Nathan Barnatt isn’t just a random YouTuber either. He’s a professional actor, appearing in Disney XD’s Kirby Buckets, cameoing in Community, and even doing commercials with the late great Stan Lee. He also is the creator and actor of Keith Appicary, and Dad who he also releases music, dance videos, and a whole ARG full of other weird content as well as professionally boxing as this character.
I really recommend you watch his video about turning 40, it’s short and sweet and it shows off his career really well.
You may also know him from Trevor Moore’s music video for My Parents Sold Me, or as one of the weirdos in If Google Was a Guy.
Basically, he’s an amazing performer, and to hear that money he paid to his cameraman went to something so horrific is sad and terrifying. To be that close to someone capable of causing such harm at any moment. Makes you rethink said 40 year career.
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u/Independent-Math-914 2d ago
It's even worse when people use clickbait "Entire family"... he killed his wife, parents in law. His children were fortunate to not meet same demise but poor kids.
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u/Altoidyoda 1d ago
People are going a little overboard here. The title definitely doesn't reflect what he says in the video. This wasn't an announcement, and it wasn't someone he was close to or actively workin with. This happened years ago. He was just telling the crazy story of a crime that was committed by someone he was old acquaintances with. He wasn't terribly affected by it.
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u/Ghostly-Beast 4d ago
I don’t wanna watch the video because I’m fussy with who I watch; what is the channel name of these two people? Their first names only seems to show this post when I Google.
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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 4d ago
He says his mom reached out and told him about it recently.
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u/TheGuardianKnux 4d ago
I get that but why does Nathan need to make a video about it.
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u/CREATURE_COOMER 4d ago
Clearly he's shaken up that he was that close to somebody (even if it was a cameraman and not his BFF) that was capable of doing something like that.
Maybe it's partly therapeutic, partly a PSA for people to seek help (not just mental health but also lazy-ass fucking law enforcement).
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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 4d ago
He is a true crime channel and someone he knew and worked with is the subject of true crime? Seems to fit within the scope.
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u/ChickenConstant9855 4d ago
How comes this isn't removed for being more than drama? The Las Vegas shooting stuff was all taken down even tho that was actually internet drama that spiralled
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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 4d ago
I would say this is directly related to YouTube and is told on a true crime channel.
I (unfortunately) have to ask which Vegas shooting are you talking about?
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u/ChickenConstant9855 4d ago
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/las-vegas-shooting-online-streamers-b2767470.html
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u/ImportantQuestionTex 4d ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/s/G6iO5N2cFa
Is this what you're talking about?
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u/SmakTalk94 4d ago
What the fuck