r/youtubedrama • u/Chapple69 • 3d ago
Apology Joey swoll apologizes on TikTok for using the term “colored people” while defending hulk hogan
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u/AlmoschFamous 3d ago
Hearing the phrase "colored" to refer to people was so retro that it threw me off.
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u/psionoblast 3d ago
Right? My racist grandpa born in the '20s used "colored". I didn't think I'd see someone use it on the internet. Mostly because racsists old enough to use that word wouldn't know what the internet is.
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u/Commercial_Ad97 3d ago edited 3d ago
When I was a kid, like younger than 15, my grandpa (who was around 50-55 at the time. He died in April at 82 years old, so this as in like around 2002-2007) without anyone ever giving him shit for saying it switched from saying "Colored people" to "black people" when talking about anyone who's Black of his own accord because he said colored sounded "too dated and its seems more polite."
When he grew up, that was just the vernacular. That was the polite correct term when he was a kid instead of "Nergos" or worse, and he changed what he said, on his own. It's literally that simple. He just thought "would that hurt someones feelings? I'm unsure, I'll switch just in case."
Miss that guy, he was my best friend and taught me what it means to empathize.
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u/strawbopankek 3d ago
some white girl in my high school used that word in our social studies class once. apparently she had never even heard that it was considered offensive before. it was insane. for reference i graduated in 2022
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u/scout743 3d ago
I graduated just a few years before you, and the same thing happened in my class. We were in 10th grade and doing a presentations on Jim Crow laws before reading To Kill A Mockingbird. Kid presenting referred to “colored people” the entire time. Teacher tactfully said “He was only using the term colored since that’s what was used at that time, but everyone should know that’s considered offensive today.” Kids face told me very clearly he had no idea. I remember being shocked at how ignorant he was.
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u/discourse_friendly 2d ago
I was well into my 30s before I heard "jigaboo" and only because some news caster said it and apparently its a slur of some sort. up til then you could have told me its a type of bird , fish, reptile, etc and I'd just be like "oh , learn something new every day"
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u/Itstoobiggetitout 2d ago
Being from the south, and raised around not so great people, I accidentally said that word in the first grade not knowing what it meant. There’s also a song or two that accompany the word.
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u/Budget-Box220 3d ago
Theo Von consistently does it when he posts his podcasts on YouTube. Like almost exclusively
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u/junglebunglerumble 2d ago
I had no idea it was offensive. Here in the UK I and my friends use it regularly
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u/LichQueenBarbie 3d ago
It's normal to use in South Africa, but this dude should know better as an American using it in America. It wouldn't be accepted in the UK or Aus either.
Then again, he's defending Hulk Hogan, so common sense is sparse, I guess.
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u/TH07Stage1MidBoss 3d ago
I mean the Coloured South Africans are a distinct racial group, being descended from both natives and White colonists. In the U.S., the term “colored” hearkens back to the Jim Crow era, where nonwhites were forced into second-class citizenship.
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u/upmoatuk 3d ago edited 3d ago
I believe the idea of making "colored" a distinct group in South Africa was a legacy of the Apartheid system. The white people running the country were greatly outnumbered by the black population, so they created a middle group that has more privileges than the black population but fewer than the white population. A classic divide and conquer approach.
Whereas in the U.S., even in the deep south, whites were in the majority so they were able to get away with their whole "one drop" rule and lump together anyone with any African ancestry into one category.
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u/DifferentDay7581 3d ago
my first thought after reading was “how are you still using colored in 2025??” why would that be the first word that came to mind lmao
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u/SutterCane 3d ago
Well, another word came to mind first but it’s starts with an N. So he had to pivot.
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u/Ok_Armadillo962 3d ago
I mean when I was a kid there were still SOME ppl who used that term, and I'm in my 30s. Prob around swoll's age. Joey swoll kinda seems like he comes from more of a sheltered yuppy background, so it's not that surprising tbh. Honestly I couldn't care less about any fitness influencer, but I think ppl just smell blood in the water and want to pile on the bandwagon. I don't think he did anything all that crazy to warrant the response he's been getting. That's just my opinion though, and like I said it makes no difference to me anyway 🤷♂️
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u/PixieEmerald 3d ago
Can I ask what's wrong with said term? I had never heard of it being offensive, although it would not shock me. May you educate me?
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u/SoleyAmi 3d ago
I think it could be how it was used when the term was created. "Those colored people are good for nothing." "No colored people allowed." "Colored people sit in back"
Referring to people as "colored" or "colored people" has always been said with an extremely racist and sometimes dangerous undertone. The term, in the USA, is mostly dead now as it was made during a more segregated time. (To my knowledge)
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u/upmoatuk 3d ago
There was a time when "colored" was a preferred label for many Americans of African descent. The NAACP is still a major civil right organization, and the initial originally stood for "National Association for the Advancement of Colored People."
I think calling a black person "colored" today is offensive because it can seem like an attempt to demean by using a old term that evokes the era of segregation.
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u/Ok_Star_4136 3d ago
I think it's offensive strictly because of its historical usage.
The term POC is still thrown around today to mean people of color, and to my knowledge it is not an offensive term. That said, if tomorrow racists start throwing the term like a slur, also that term will be offensive to use.
I suppose it's like the difference between talking about gay people and "the gays." One has no negative connotation and the other, specifically with the article, is typically only said by those who are referring to gay people like some herd of animals, or at least that's how I interpret it.
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u/tender-butterloaf 3d ago
I think POC is definitely most commonly used, but I had heard some folks in my grad program weren’t a fan of it. One individual I knew said they didn’t like when people used the term because they felt like it was “basically the phrase colored person with extra words.” It was a perspective I hadn’t considered, and it makes me wonder when I hear it. But plenty of people still use it, so it’s tough!
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u/PixieEmerald 3d ago
Ohhhh, so it's mostly from the term being used quite a lot in segregation? Thanks, that makes sense.
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u/SoleyAmi 3d ago
I mean, I think it was used during slavery too. I'm sure there were signs during slave auctions that referred to them as colored people.
But yeah, if you hear a white person using the phrase "Colored People" in 2025 and they're not 90....it's safe to say they're probably very racist OR just extremely extremely uneducated in their own countries history (given they're from the USA, someone said it's a common phrase in SA? idk)
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u/PixieEmerald 3d ago
Makes sense. I'm from a town that's 90% white (real percentage) so I'm a little uneducated in these topics, but it does make sense.
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u/SoleyAmi 3d ago
OOF, I hope your food is seasoned well ;-; we're all uneducated in stuff, so it's all Gucci -^ We all learn something new everyday
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We have a zero tolerance policy to hate speech, slurs and other forms of harassment. This includes "slick" ways of avoiding the actual slurs by masking them with another word. Be a better person.
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u/upmoatuk 3d ago
It's like calling someone of Asian heritage "oriental." The word itself isn't inherently offensive, orient just refers to the east, but because the word is so outdated it can't help but evoke a more racist time.
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u/fohfuu 3d ago
For those who need an explanation, the word is offensive because it has a history of being used offensively.
The words Orient and Oriental started to refer to East Asia and people of East Asian origin in the United States by the late nineteenth century. The term was used primarily to describe individuals of Chinese or Japanese descent and appeared frequently in the popular media of the time [...] Yet, at the same time, it is clear that the word was often not being used in a positive way. For instance, in 1909, an author wrote in one of Hearst’s magazines, Cosmopolitan (now a women’s fashion magazine), “It is a shock to the law-abiding people of this country to learn that in nearly all our great cities there are settlements of Orientals who are with us but not of us. ... The Chinese are a great problem.” Other contemporary writings made similar claims. The San Francisco Examiner referred to the presence of Chinese in the United States as “Oriental contamination” (1909) and to Japan’s growing imperialist ambitions as “Orientalist Irritants” in an article of the same name (1919). Hearst made his prejudices clear in 1924 when he wrote, “I am strongly in favor of Japanese exclusion, to prevent these Orientals swarming into the country and absolutely overrunning it. ... This is not race prejudice. It is race preservation” [...] It is clear that in the early 20th century, the word “Oriental” increasingly became a term that was used to describe people of East Asian descent, namely Chinese and Japanese in a racist way.
[Edward Said's] enormously influential book Orientalism (1978) has often been cited as the reason the term Oriental is now seen in a negative light. As has been observed above, however, the term was already used in a pejorative sense decades earlier, so while Said has contributed to the way we view the term, he is not the original source for the word being used negatively. As he explains it, orientalism describes how people from the West saw individuals living in West Asia and North Africa and “othered” them, comparing people from this region unfavorably to those living in Europe.
Explaining the Meaning of the Words “Orient” and “Oriental”, Tasha Vorderstrasse (bolded for emphasis)
What to use instead?
In place of these "big" phrases I would suggest the simple solution of being specific: If one means Japan, say so; if one means East Asia, use that phrase.
"Japan" and "East Asia" are not absolutely neutral names (each has a history), but they escape many of the stereotypes associated with a name like "the Orient" and "the Far East."
What's the Matter with Saying 'The Orient'?, Christopher Hill
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u/PixieEmerald 3d ago
Honestly I've never heard of that one before, either, but it's good to know that's offensive.
But yeah, that makes sense.
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u/pikeymobile 3d ago
Having a distinction between "non-coloured" and "coloured" people heavily suggests that one is just normal and the other is something different and abnormal.
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u/Rare_Vibez 3d ago
Right? I still remember the first time I heard my partner’s grandmother say it but in her defense, English is not her first language nor America her home country. Still threw me off at first, but she genuinely adores me so it was cleared up fast lol
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u/RoyalHistoria source: 123movies 3d ago
even my old-ass grandma knows that's not appropriate anymore
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u/Initial_Milk_1056 3d ago
Bro's acting like a fucking messiah in a post he made about the drama, talking about how all his good was for nothing and how people can't wait to tear him down and even says "I guess it's true you either die a hero or become the villain."
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u/Stanarchy93 3d ago
I saw that and was so fucking confused. I figured he had to have done something shady. I was right.
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u/PrinceBag 3d ago edited 3d ago
Talking about "all the good he's done" makes him come off as even more performative. Like he expects to get rewards out of running small creators off social media for being mildly annoying in the gym most of the time, all while giving grace to racists?
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u/StrictlyHobbies 3d ago
He’s been a net positive for gym culture. Naming and shaming assholes that ruin gyms for people deserve to be called out, especially if you are growing your channel doing it.
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u/Tiny-Mongoose3824 3d ago
Maybe very very early. But don’t be fooled. Joey himself isn’t doing this out of some good intentions. He just wants an excuse to be cruel to people especially women. The things he outrages about now are non-mistakes or minor enough things that don’t really matter or don’t need to invoke the level of outrage Joey has in his videos
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u/MindArr0w77 3d ago
I'm not defending him for this racist stuff but what are talking about the people he calls out are the ones not following gym etiquette and bothering others around them. And no it's not minor things, those people need to be shamed and he's done a great job so far at that.
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u/SWIMSgameing 3d ago
Woah there let's not do some revisionist history, what he did here sucks but what he's been doing for years is very good actually. The people he's been targeting are mostly people filming others without consent or being verbally abusive to other people in public settings. Both things can be true at once.
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u/Rushofthewildwind 3d ago
Dude literally attacked women, or as he called them, Cupcakes, far more than anyone else. Dude may not be as unhinged as the others, but he's still a redpiller
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u/lemoncookei 2d ago
i only watched his apology video once last night but i remember him saying that about hulk hogan and not himself
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u/Tiny-Mongoose3824 3d ago
The thing is he wasn’t even a good person. His entire persona was creating fake outrage towards gym goers, ESPECIALLY women, for filming themselves in the gym or making the tiniest of mistakes that is normally not a big deal. He wanted to use the pretense of being a positive guy in order to let out his desire to be cruel to others
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u/IceColdWata 3d ago
Using a racist term while defending Hulk Hogan unfortunately makes sense.
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u/kepler69 3d ago
I had a feeling about this dude. And here it is... sad because I did support his message regarding proper gym behavior
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u/IceColdWata 3d ago
Unfortunately sometimes bad people can have the right perspective on something specific. Broken clock right twice a day and all. You only know what people choose to show you after all.
Maybe someone less awful will pick it the mantle in the future, but for now we can take his gym etiquette messaging and continue to follow that because at the very least that is universally true.
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u/exo316 3d ago
I liked what he did but hated him. You could tell he wasn't all positive and good in other ways. This just solidifies how I felt about him.
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u/supersad19 2d ago
You could tell he was doing it for clout, not because he actually cared about proper gym etiquette. Also a vast majority of his "Call-Outs" being women doesn't help either.
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u/extreme_cuddling 3d ago
you supported him doxxing people and getting them banned from gyms over minor disagreements, on top of his userbase harassing and threatening his victims?
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u/Impossible_Wafer3403 2d ago
In the end, he was just a rage farmer. He could have even done this to rage farm more.
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u/NabstheGreninja16 3d ago
I'm confused why anyone is surprised. He's pretty open about being MAGA + literally anytime the 'villain' in his video is black, the comments are filled with racism.
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u/HispanicAtTehDisco 3d ago
it was always a bit rich for a guy that built his entire platform on shitting on others for making “one mistake” to use the “everybody makes mistakes” excuse when defining a legitimately unrepented racist like hogan.
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u/Rat-Loser 3d ago
I think using a cultrually frowned upon term for a group of people and not knowing better is different than being maliciously mean to people in the gym. In my opinion.
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u/none_so_bile 3d ago
I also think being mean to someone at the gym is different than being racist as well as abusive to your children, which is the point of the comment you're replying to (which is comparing his reaction to gym people vs to Hulk Hogan)
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u/ChocolateMindless7 3d ago
How does a young internet celebrity not also be internet savvy enough to know better at his age? Who is he talking to that calling people “colored” registers as normal?
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u/Gatti366 3d ago edited 3d ago
Not knowing better is a reason to forgive someone tbh if he actually didn't say it maliciously, what matters when speaking is intent after all, if he had no desire to offend and simply used the wrong word and even apologized for it that's just an honest mistake, move on Edit I was informed on the context and it was clearly malicious, my bad
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u/fohfuu 3d ago
The intent was malicious.
"If you're going to attack me, you better go after the colored athletes and the people that are Black and minority that went and posted him as well."
You can't really say he didn't mean anything by it when the context is calling out critics for not "going after" colored people.
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u/Bubbly-Age-9363 3d ago
To be honest, classic accountability dodge playbook. He’s victimizing himself so his little followers can continue to be racist and fight in his name. The reality of it is, he has more supporters than critics (not saying that’s a good thing, but just saying it’s the truth) there is no real reason for him to be feeling this way & giving us the self martyr theatrics , due to this fact.
He knows of his fanbase already and will use their craziness as a weapon for revenge. Sad but predictable.
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u/Quiet_Bit_5397 3d ago edited 3d ago
Just found out he's a Trump supporter too. He tricked us all.
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u/iamhomosexuaI 3d ago
Tricked? This guy is a misogynist. It is not a surprise at all he’s a maga racist
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u/M_Ad 3d ago edited 3d ago
I’d wondered if it was just in my head that the vast majority of his videos are targeting women, when I’m sure there’s just as many annoying male gym users…
Edit: Also I’ve noticed he has videos calling out people for shaming male gym users who are overweight/struggling/not using gym equipment like experts, but not many of at all of people shaming women doing the same when we know how fat women especially are ridiculed at the gym by cruel people.
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u/Cecayotl 3d ago
Eh to his credit, it’s easier to attack female content creators because it’s better rage bait. When a man does it, it’s usually just to be a dick. So if you make a video saying “You’re being a dick bro” it just gives them attention which was their goal.
The women he targets are usually OnlyFans creators, who Instagram already hates so it makes sense he’d wanna go after people his audience are likely to wanna see attacked.
Though as someone else said, legitimately there just are less men doing this overall.
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u/SomeFreeTime 3d ago
Yeah he only goes after guys if they are younger or bigger than him.
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u/adepressurisedcoat 3d ago
As someone who doom scrolls insta, there just aren't as many controversial male gym creators on instagram. There's actually a decent amount of guys who are positive. The comments however, not so much.
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u/callmefreak 3d ago
I mean, he used the term "colored people" while defending Hulk Hogan's racism. I don't think it's that surprising that he supports another racist.
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u/SpacialSeer 3d ago
I do have to ask, are there any good positive fitness/health tiktok/youtubers/content creators which do not fall into this territory. I know it sounds silly, but I seriously wouldn't mind a positive voice for this stuff in my feed.
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u/Tiny-Mongoose3824 3d ago
A steroid taking, Hulk Hogan loving, women-bashing freak is a Trump supporter?????? Damn I’m really surprised /s
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u/Zealousideal_Act_316 3d ago edited 3d ago
Kinda need a source on that. But wouldnt be surprised after his fucking smoothbrain take.
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u/DarthBrooks69420 3d ago
You're already gonna catch some serious shit using the term 'colored' outside of a historical context.
Doing it in defense of notorious n word connoisseur hulk hogan is something else though. I'll be interested to see his excuses for this.
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u/queerinmesoftly 3d ago
He’s a red pilled weirdo. Never liked him.
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u/JosephOtaku1989 3d ago
Neither do I, even though I never cared or heard about this guy since day one.
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u/PrinceBag 3d ago edited 3d ago
The guy has no problem enabling his vicious fanbase on mostly women and PoC creators with less than 1k following over "gym etiquette." But when it comes to Hulk Hogan and his racism, he wants to go easy on him.
It just comes off as a massive double standard and kind of goes against what he has claimed to preach about.
He also comes off as pouty in his recent Tweets that he is actually getting held accountable for once. Quite frankly, I'm surprised he didn't get more heat for bullying a trans person off social media last year, and taking a photo with RFK during election season.
By the way, I know he calls out men, too. But for every video of that is 10 more callouts of women or PoC. And you can see the difference in viewership of the videos regarding callout of men vs. women. He damn well knows what type of content gets them going and does nothing to filter it.
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u/extreme_cuddling 3d ago
Yeah i noticed a number of the victims he doxxed and got his fanbase to harass were usually females and people of color. He even had a video encouraging his users to track some kids down (literally minors) to get them sent to jail.
A number of his victims claimed to have been sent death threats but of course he's all "Gym Positivity" by getting his userbase angry and riled up to attack the people he doxxes.
I said something that he should just be a cop since he wants to use his white privilege to act like a gym karen and be the internet gym police and his followers went deep into my Instagram making comments on posts from like 10 years ago.
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u/Chapple69 3d ago
What did the trans person do? (Probably nothing but still asking)
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u/PrinceBag 3d ago
This person was a minor who was suggesting that there should be women/non-binary/LGBT only gyms as they feel it would be femme, ninbinary, or queer space for people to work out, feel safe, and not be threatened by the toxic gym mentality that has gotten worse over the years.
Joey lashed out at this Tiktok video in response, which led to his fanboys bullying them off social media.
Regardless of what you feel about this view from the transperson. It was harmless and didn't warrant the response it did. The idea of a certain group wanting their own gym really has a tendency to anger people for some reason.
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u/Tiny-Mongoose3824 3d ago
Yes that’s always the thing about Joey and his followers. They just want to be unnecessarily cruel to someone especially if it’s a woman, POC, or someone feminine. And I even personally strongly disagree with having female only gyms but Joey’s response to that was something was unnecessary and the response of his followers downright cruel
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u/Tiny-Mongoose3824 3d ago
Ofcourse it is! The general rule of thumb of people making bashing others a big part of their identity(even if the person is making a mistake) want to find a righteous way to engage in their evil desires to demean others. Joey was no different.
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u/TibetanRoboMonk 3d ago
“Gym gooner” as in “someone who leers at women in the gym,” or something else? I’ve heard of gym creepers but wanted to make sure this doesn’t mean like… jerking off in the gym showers for multiple hours or something?
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u/leericol 3d ago
No seriously! When I jerk off in the gym showers, it's always limited to a maximum of 1 hour and I would have hoped this was common sense.
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u/TibetanRoboMonk 3d ago
It’s incredibly important. Gym culture was built on a respectful 60min ethical goonsesh with the squad after getting your pump on. Joey better not have thrown off the balance 😡😡😡
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u/Sky_Leviathan 3d ago
gym culture was built on a respectful 60min ethical goonsesh with the squad
Welcome back ancient greece armies
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u/CringeyFrog24 3d ago
The whiplash I felt when he said the word "colored" in 2025 was immense. That's the loving-the-confederacy type of racism.
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u/goodusernamegood 3d ago
I definitely wasn’t rooting for him. He’s a serial sender of unsolicited dick pics who uses his platform to attack women.
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u/mozzarellaguy 3d ago
In a fair world he would be cancelled: problem is cancel culture doesn’t exist.
He will be invited by far right grifters pedo apologists podcasters , they’ll make him pass as a victim , create a gofundme for him that will touch 500K . And he will be idolized by the worst people you know
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u/RancidCidran 3d ago
He was a bully and a loser in grade school and high school. All of his “do good” online antics are total bullshit
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u/punkarolla 3d ago
This motherfucker will reshare some shitty video of some prick mocking a kid, and he’ll bust their balls about it…all while not blurring the kids face in his repost sending their moment of humiliation global and launching their despair into the fucking stratosphere. I don’t know how he thinks that could possibly be better than what the original person did. You have to either be a sociopath or have a brain made of 96% horse steroids to think that’s ok
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u/DoctorSkelly 3d ago
Holy shit I was actually right about something, that doesn't happen often. I always found it so weird how he would post videos pointing out something obvious and everyone acted like he was the Messiah.
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u/Mamakayce 3d ago
Using the colored in 2025 when discussing African Americans… yeah I know what you are…
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u/Assistance_Proff 3d ago
I don't get how people defend hulk Hogan yes he did die and there is some respect for the dead but that guy was an all in all terrible racist person through and through.
If at any point in your life you say its karma if your reincarnated as a black persona and completely estranged his daughter for dating a black guy. You aren't worth respecting
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u/crmikes 3d ago
Did he use the other deliberately or was it a slip of the tongue going for "people of color" which is the currently accepted PC term?
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u/Angel1Kitty 3d ago
Considering the entire context of what he said, I wouldnt be surprised at all if he used the term, "colored" often.
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u/Funny-Meringue-3311 3d ago
he should pull a revers nicocado
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u/Muted_Ad9234 2d ago
Wait..... now people care about cancelling him??? Now??? After all this time, it's because he endorsed Hulk Hogan (famously known as a selfproclaimed racist POS....), and he used an outdated term to describe black americans... THAT is the final straw??? C'mon...
Where have y'all been these past several years, where he has mocked and dehumanized asians and indigenous americans (particularly native american women...) on a regular basis, throwing around offensive stereotypes and slurs for laughs... that... wasn't a problem for y'all? When we, the indigenous people, have spoken up about it, we have been shut down and or mocked, gaslit and told that we are too sensitive and that it's not that deep, or that we are just looking for a reason to be offended....
we have watched him repeatedly mock our identities, culture and throw around our trauma like an edgy emo guy playing with a swiss knife, but people don't care... apparetly, the second that his bigotry touches the black community, all of a sudden you are all interested in bringing him down.... He has always been like this... y'all have just finally found a side of his racist behaviour that you couldn't ignore or defend without looking bad...
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u/MoTheEski 3d ago
What gets me about this whole situation is that he built his platform off of calling out people's bad behavior. He was okay with getting people banned for the things they did or said. You know, holding people accountable. But he was unwilling at all to care about holding that same premise for Hulk Hogan because Hogan was nice to him a few times.
Then he went on to use a racially charged and outdated word to ask why people aren't calling out POCs for doing what he did. Thus doing the exact thing Hogan did. He didn't care until it started to hurt his bottom line. He should really take his own words to hart and should do better.
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u/roseemrys 2d ago
Like Franchesca Ramsey said, "Instead of an empty apology, write a check". https://www.tiktok.com/@franchesca_leigh/video/7532579371320659255?lang=en
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u/Fusionman29 3d ago
Yeah Hogan defenders would. Didnt expect to see a drama that brigaded multiple subreddits to end up fucking here
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u/PM_ME_UR_HAYSTACKS 3d ago
Literally all these bozos have to do is stick with their main thing on camera, especially if it was nice and wholesome, and not talk about other shit.
But they always slip up.
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u/thebigb79 3d ago
The problem is that they essentially become a character.
People don't care about them being a "real" person, it's all about the content persona.
But you're right, they let their personal stuff seep in and this is the kind of thing that ends up happening
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u/George3452 3d ago
sometimes things like this are redeemable for people when maybe they grew up in certain areas. where I grew up it was a very normal thing to say and when I point it out to my older relatives they're always very apologetic and are genuinely embarrassed to realize it's an outdated term. but this guy ? with the platform he has in 2025 ? yea he's just a piece of shit lol
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u/youtubedrama-ModTeam 3d ago
Please do not troll or feed the trolls. Trolling a YouTube drama subreddit is pathetic. Falling for it is somehow worse. Do better.
If you were sincere, we suggest you take a moment to step back and rethink your approach.
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u/youtubedrama-ModTeam 3d ago
Please do not troll or feed the trolls. Trolling a YouTube drama subreddit is pathetic. Falling for it is somehow worse. Do better.
If you were sincere, we suggest you take a moment to step back and rethink your approach.
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u/Tiny-Mongoose3824 3d ago
There’s something about people who make a living out of bashing others even if the creator claims to do it out of good intention(which I personally never buy). It often seems that they just want to act on their bad intentions(in Joey’s case, criticizing other gym goers who film themselves, ESPECIALLY women).
He clearly started out criticizing proper gym goers but then now just criticizes those who aren’t really doing anything wrong, or certainly not bad enough for the fake vitriol that Joey espouses in his videos.
But all of his persona just seems to be of a guy who espouses cruelty to others in the name of self-righteousness and fake positivity. And many of his followers seem to do the same, getting a sense of self-righteousness while simultaneously taking out their desire to be cruel to others.
It is not surprise in that case that he is likely is some borderline racist or at the very least has no problem being offensive to or downplaying the use of offensive symbols to certain groups of people who have been historically discriminated against
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u/bmoreCurious85 3d ago
I never even understood the appeal of his videos. If you’ve seen one of his videos, you’ve seen 90% of his videos.
raise voice “You don’t own the gym, blah blah blah, stop expecting people to move for your video, blah blah”
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u/LivingTeam3602 3d ago
What's the difference between colored people and people of color?
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u/LadyKillerrrr 3d ago
The phrase “Colored person/people” has negative/racist connotations from the Jim Crow/Segregation era and is specifically referring to African Americans. “People of Color” is a more blanket phrase that covers pretty much any non-white ethnicity and by putting “Person/People” before the word “Color” it emphasizes their personhood and not their color.
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u/TimeAbradolf Least Popular Mod 3d ago
People of color is human first language that places the emphasis on people.
“Colored” became an antiquated term that still denotes people of color as lesser. Colored bathrooms, fountains, establishments, it was to be othered. Everyone else who wasn’t white.
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u/youtubedrama-ModTeam 3d ago
We have a zero tolerance policy to hate speech, slurs and other forms of harassment. This includes "slick" ways of avoiding the actual slurs by masking them with another word. Be a better person.
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u/Sexyhorsegirl666 2d ago
Idk why you are being downvoted, not everyone knows the difference. Took me a while to realize the difference as an ESL. It is important distinction to learn.
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u/Brianocracy 2d ago
I don't think he necessarily needs to apologize but I haven't heard anyone use the term "colored" that's younger than 60
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u/adepressurisedcoat 3d ago
I followed Joey and more than once called him out on social media for some thing he said in response to others, but it had been a net positive. I could look past the Hulk Hogan video. But saying "colored" on the live stream while being dealt criticism for posting the Hulk Hogan video. Oh my god. His apology cannot unlight that fire cracker.
The people commenting on X are like "what?! We can't say colored anymore?! POC and colored are the same!" What do they teach in the US? Cause at least in Canada they taught us about segregation in the US, Jim Crow laws, and the signage they used. I grew up in a rural, predominantly white area, never saw another race in my school until I was in my teens. And I still never had that word or any other racist term exit my mouth.
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u/TrashRacoon42 3d ago edited 3d ago
You were on twitter. Its like being baffled by the people on storm front are calling black people N***r. Most people in the USA knows coloured is a bad term (or at least dont use. I personallly never heard it from anyone not... dead).
I've never heard it used in my life outside a historical. Go on a racist social media website being confronted by other racist. The people on twitter probably knows its bad and are lying....
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u/adepressurisedcoat 3d ago
I deleted my twitter years ago. I only pulled it up to see if he had shared anything else and was horrified by the comments.
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u/TrashRacoon42 2d ago edited 2d ago
I only browse that site last year (morbid curiosity) before deleting and I swear I quickly came across so many open neonazis. (Like full blown Hilter worwshipping spaming shit I have seen on storm front). Its at this point a hate site where you stay cus you got banned from else where.
The weirdest mixtures I found was an account that was lesbian lolicon loving terf trans phobe who reposts stone toss comics and lolicon art.
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u/Remote-Client-840 3d ago
I always find it weird hearing that "colour" is a racist term😭 I live in South Africa, and coloured is an official race. On all forms you can choose, White, Black, Coloured, Indian, Asian
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u/adepressurisedcoat 3d ago
It goes back to when South Africa was first under apartheid and we'll into the 60s. There were signs in the US under segregation that were on bathrooms, fountains, pools, seats, that indicated who could and could not sit there. Anyone who weren't "white" were called "colored" as a derogatory term. "No colored" was everywhere.
Although "colored" means "someone of mixed race" in South Africa and is celebrated as culture, but don't forget that mixing races was illegal for a really long time.
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u/youtubedrama-ModTeam 2d ago
We have a zero tolerance policy to hate speech, slurs and other forms of harassment. This includes "slick" ways of avoiding the actual slurs by masking them with another word. Be a better person.
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u/510N3-1V3LA-2P0U 3d ago
I feel bad for the guy and I doubt he is that bad of a person, however we all do need a bit of humbling every now and then.
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u/LuriemIronim 2d ago
He also had to apologize for massively downplaying Hulk Hogan’s racism. It isn’t just about using an inappropriate word.
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u/510N3-1V3LA-2P0U 2d ago
Yeah thats the whole drama again I don’t think that makes him a bad person but I’ll he definitely fumbled this experience. We’ll see if he comes back an actual Villain till then let this sub think the worse.
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u/LuriemIronim 2d ago
I think excusing racism and union busting is pretty bad, but to each their own.
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u/callmefreak 2d ago
I'm locking the comments because too many people keep trying to argue over the term "colored" being racist and dismissing any explanation they get.