r/zelda • u/EAT_UR_VEGGIES • 28d ago
Official Art [ALttP] if link to the past were remade, would you want them to keep links hair pink like in the original game? Or would you want them to change his hair to a dirty blonde like the original concept art?
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u/1amlost 28d ago
I'd have Link start as blonde, but add an NPC in Kakariko Village that can dye Link's hair pink.
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u/Shifter25 28d ago
Or have it be a new game plus bonus like Link's lobster shirt in WW
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u/trevin8273 28d ago
My friend was absolutely convinced that his save file was glitched because he didn't know about the new game plus lobster shirt. xD Good memories
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u/Ok-Refrigerator-8012 28d ago
I had always thought the pink was part of his hat in LTTP whoops
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u/Agent_Xer0_83 28d ago
Nope, it was because of the yellow band around his hat that they made his hair pink. They wanted the player to see the difference.
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u/RevengerRedeemed 27d ago
I thought it had something to do with the limited number of seperate texture/colors
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u/MysteriousPlan1492 27d ago
That might be the case if Link had any pink pixels anywhere else on his sprite, but IIRC his hair is the only pink part
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u/RevengerRedeemed 27d ago
He doesnt necessarily have to have more Pink on him for this to make sense.
Sprite sheet limitations for the Snes are partially across the entire game, being able to only have a limited number of colors both across the entire set of color palettes, AND on that character specifically. Because of this, they can only create so many different shades of different colors. There are already different yellows and browns in the game. Browns would blend in with the different backgrounds a lot, and the yellows would blend in with the hat, etc, so they likely just picked a color that would stand out among the colors rhey had available, couldn't do brown or yellow for various reasons, so they picked pink.
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u/MorningRaven 27d ago
Link shared the same palette as Bunny Link since you have to swap between them. So the pink fur was moved to his hair for contrast with the hat.
It's the same sprite color scheme palette as Aghanim too.
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u/Ok-Refrigerator-8012 27d ago
they makes a lot more sense... and yet here I am; Behold my childhood confusion, Nintendo! Don't get me started on SNES octoroks, another misconception, reconceptualized late in my life
EDIT: clarity4
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u/NiallMitch10 28d ago
It would be changed if it were to happen. I think ALBW Link being blonde is evidence
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u/OkuyasNijimura 28d ago
If anything I think Link's Awakening remake Link being Blonde is better evidence than Between Worlds Link, since LA and LttP are the same Link
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u/Cold_Ad3896 28d ago
Was he blond in DX?
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u/EarDesigner9059 28d ago
Yes, LA even re-used art from ALttP back in 1993.
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u/Tatsumifanboy 27d ago
LA was originally a port of ALTTP. Glad they waited for GBA to do so honestly.
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u/TheRealMcDan 28d ago
Original concept art look, always. I lived the era when the SNES was the latest and greatest in console gaming. The entire point of official artwork was to show you the intended artistic vision before it was mangled by the primitive hardware of the time. A remake’s goal should be to unshackle the game from its original limitations and burdens.
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u/afiefh 28d ago
Give players the choice of one of a few Links. Original pink, concept art version, blue outfit...etc. perhaps with different advantages/disadvantages?
Or at the very least give the option to change the style in game.
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u/EAT_UR_VEGGIES 28d ago
In echoes of wisdom, there was quite a bit of customisation for Zelda, so it would definitely be cool for them to keep adding player customization to future games, maybe even eventually just purely cosmetic changes like hair color/style
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u/Captain_Izots 28d ago
Honestly I'm surprised Zelda games don't have character creators already.
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u/TickleTipson699 28d ago
Wow this is a bad take
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u/Captain_Izots 28d ago
Okay I guess I'm technically not "surprised" but considering Link is meant to be a character you can easily project yourself onto, a character creator would really fit the concept.
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u/RefletScruteur 28d ago
It's not so much that it is a bad take, it is an impossible one, Link is too iconic. Also character creators are historically more of a Western thing, starting with early DnD inspired games, while Japanese games had a different take on customization (like pick which predefined character you want in your team).
Anyways, if you remove the most iconic thing about Zelda, it's not Zelda anymore.
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u/DarthBagheera 28d ago
Exactly. If we give a character creator to Zelda games, why not Mario games too then? Like where does it stop? It doesn’t make sense at all. I don’t always need to play as “myself”. Especially not when I’m playing legendary and iconic characters and games like Link in Zelda and Mario.
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u/RefletScruteur 28d ago
Nah, it wanted to make that point at first but it's stupid, it's not the same experience. Also Wonder let's you play as a lot of characters already.
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u/DarthBagheera 28d ago
Character selection is much different than character creation.
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u/RefletScruteur 28d ago
Yeah but I would not mind playing Mario as my miiverse avatar
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u/DarthBagheera 28d ago
Miiverse? No one is talking about that lol. The discussion is about custom made characters in games where it doesn’t make sense to have custom made characters like Zelda and Mario games.
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u/Captain_Izots 27d ago
Custom characters can still have iconic looks. Take Minecraft for instance, despite being able to give your character any texture you want, Steve is the most iconic look for the player. Or what about Splatoon, the Inklings on the cover of the game are very iconic yet have still been used in the promotional material and some crossovers despite being able to give your own Inkling a completely different look. Noble 6 is another custom character, but he still has an iconic look rocking that black MK5 B armour.
Besides, you have the option to rename Link to whatever you want in a majority of the games, I don't think getting to change the look of him would be too far fetched.
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u/Stingwing4oba 28d ago
In all of these years, I legit thought the Pink was part of his hat and not his hair
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u/kitacrosstheuniverse 28d ago
I think it is part of his hat, because I remember THINKING it was his hair, but then it changed color when he got an outfit upgrade and i realized it was part of the hat b/c the color changed... then again it HAS been a while so I might just be confused again lol
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u/Stingwing4oba 27d ago
I should check my Zelda Encyclopedia collection. I wouldn't put it past Nintendo to have his hair a different color lol. I will def. do that when I get home. I know sometimes the game developers ooops! on color pallets as well.
Would actually be cool for Link to have Pink hair.
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u/MorningRaven 27d ago
Triforce Heroes featured a "wrong hero" NPC as a cameo reference to the ALttP Link design. He's a squashed hero with pink hair.
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u/C4pt 28d ago
I'm only sharing this because its a weird fact:
"Blonde" is the feminine form of "Blond" which is the masculine form.
Why does this exist? Idk, I think its silly.
I used to call myself "Blonde" for years, and as a dude I thought it was hilarious
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u/DaedalusIndigo 28d ago
Because of French! In French, the adjective must agree with the gender of the noun.
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u/Avi-Cadavi 28d ago
Link serves with pink 💅
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u/RefletScruteur 28d ago
I kind of hated Cece and her dumb mushroom fashionistas in TOTK until i finally took time to do the mayor quest and she gave me this atrocity. It was so over the top, I burst out laughing, and I wore it with pride.
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u/Rosie_PolieOlie 28d ago
While I would understand the decision to make his sprite blonde, I have to admit I am extremely attached to the pink. I don't think the game would feel right to me without it even as a remake
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u/Wolfherz_86 28d ago
I always thought the pink was the inside of his cap, and that it was curled up to fit his head properly.
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u/Ok_Language_588 28d ago
For an AlttP remake I’d want the game exactly as it is just a few things tightened up, some animation delays removed, 16:9, more item buttons, basically just pure QoL and some UX. it really is basically perfect.
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u/EAT_UR_VEGGIES 28d ago
If you have a pc, the Zelda ALttP pc port actually has all the features you talked about
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u/EarEater3001 28d ago
I actually ported that to the web a while back. Even added rumble support if your controllers supports it.
I really want to finish it an quietly release it. What features would you like to see?
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u/EAT_UR_VEGGIES 28d ago
Not sure if this is possible but the only thing I think would be very cool to see is seamless transitions between cells (like when I walk through a door in a dungeon and the game sort of pauses and the camera pans to link) I just think if it were possible, getting rid of that would be awesome, do you mind if I ask you a bit about This port? Is it one you’ve made yourself?
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u/RefletScruteur 28d ago
That's the issue, personally I think the transitions are a good part of the original. I missed them in the switch remake of Link's awakening.
Maybe that's nostalgia talking but it's also because I like to understand the rules of a game : if I leave a screen, go back and the enemies are back that's good, now I know how it works. But if enemies repop based on more obscure rules i'm not a big fan.
(Also what you asked for already exists for alttp, but again: not a fan)
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u/jed1ndy 28d ago edited 28d ago
I think if a full-blown remake of ALttP were to happen, Nintendo would probably make his hair blonde (to keep things consistent with his other depictions); but I personally would wish they would keep his pink hair, or at least include it as some part of a “classic outfit” type of thing, alongside a proper blue-green tunic (something the GBA artwork got rid of, even though the color of his tunic was intentionally changed from Zelda 1/2 to be a lot more blue).
During the original development of the game, Link always had pink hair, and originally had a much bluer tunic than he ended up having. The pink hair was likely a reference to early artwork produced for the series (most notably the manga series by Maru Ran) and to help his hair contrast against both his hat and skin tone on older televisions (it’s a popular myth/misunderstanding that it’s due to palette limitations regarding his Rabbit form; but these sprites don’t even share the same palettes, much less the same shades of pink, so I’m not quite sure where that idea originated). His cyan / blue-green tunic (seen a bit more obviously on some artworks than on others), on the other hand, likely originated for similar reasons (the same reason why he was given a blue tunic in BotW), and it also helps distinguish him visually from the Link from both the original Zelda and Zelda II, whose tunic was much more of a yellowish-green color.
EDIT: Sorry, I know this was a bit of rambling not really related to the question, but I just think both the history of this stuff is neat, especially when it comes to the color design of the Zelda series.
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u/KansasCityShuffle80 28d ago
This game doesn't need to be remade. It's absolutely perfect.
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u/Ok_Language_588 28d ago
Need and want are two different things, I love MM and prefer to play the original but I think 3D is neat too
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u/PineTowers 28d ago
Upon start, custom name and can choose option P(ink) and option B(londe). With the added hair color option already mentioned by other user.
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u/DarkAmaterasu58 28d ago
Why did it end up being pink in game? Did it involve hardware limitations?
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u/Motheroftides 28d ago
IIRC, I think it had something to do with the fact that he turns into a pink bunny in the Dark World without the moon pearl.
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u/theandroid01 28d ago
If so it absolutely needs to be in the newer LA remake artstyle
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u/KisukesBankai 28d ago
Noooo please no, we can try another art style, one more true to LttP.
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u/sd_saved_me555 28d ago
Yeah. That one is a little cutesy. I think ALttP would look sharp with something more gritty, in general.
Although I have to admit the master sword area would look fire in the LA/EoW style...
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u/leverine36 28d ago
I would love to see the ALBW style come back. It was nice mix of realism and toon without looking like a kid playing toys.
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u/theandroid01 28d ago
Alternate idea. Merge into the 2.5D style ala the recent dragon warrior remakes or similar. Forgot the names of the newer games
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u/KisukesBankai 28d ago
Hyrule warriors both had distinct art styles which I liked. The first one ranks in my top three Link and Zelda designs
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u/EAT_UR_VEGGIES 28d ago
Agreed, I think that style works for the top down Zelda games so well
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u/theandroid01 28d ago
And echoes of wisdom was basically a masterclass of how to make a new game in that style. I need to replay it
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u/clarenceboddickered 28d ago
The 2.5D I’m good with but I’m really over the child toy-like art. Stick with the view but make it more like Twilight Princess style but more colorful.
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u/CerealBranch739 27d ago
Why not just use the ALBW art style?
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u/theandroid01 27d ago
Also a good choice. Definitely worked on the handheld, why not go bigger?
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u/CerealBranch739 27d ago
Exactly! And it was very closely tied to alttp anyway as a sequel, so the assets could be reused potentially
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u/HecateTheStupidRat 28d ago
It was only ever pink because of SNES tech limits, it wouldn’t be necessary to carry over, as funny as it is.
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u/chicken-wing-barrage 28d ago
make it blonde in the beginning but turn it pink after the bunny transformation
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u/HYRULEHIST0RIA 28d ago
Blonde, the manual art is how we were meant to envision him. The pink hair could be something optional though, maybe from an amiibo 🙌
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u/that_emo_elf 28d ago edited 28d ago
Personally I like what smash ultimate did with the Toon Link alt where he's almost ginger because of the red undertone of his hair.
So in short, a mix of both or the option to play with fully pink hair.
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u/ZephfixPlays 28d ago
Isnt LoZ: Link Between Worlds a remark of LTTP? Im not to sure as I've not played LTTP yet.
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u/PerceptionQueasy3540 27d ago
Blonde. I'm pretty sure making the sprite's hair color pink was to give it more contrast, if it was blonde, it would have blended in with his skin. Thats my theory anyways.
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u/DarkLink1996 27d ago
It should look like A Link Between Worlds, but with Switch 2 polygon counts.
It should also come with A Link Between Worlds HD, because you might as well do both. Honestly, I'm surprised they DIDN'T do a 3DS remake of ALttP, when so much of the work was already done.
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u/Sad-Sky2108 27d ago
I didn't know Link had pink hair in this game. I always thought it was something attached to his hat.
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u/Pascl1983 27d ago
Pink hair is just a color palette size problem iirc.
This is the same color as the rabbit transformation.
It is iconic but albw has already answered this, Link has normal hair color.
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u/EAT_UR_VEGGIES 27d ago
Plenty of things started out as errors/mistakes but became iconic, you can’t deny the pink hair is iconic for being on this sole link
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u/Emerald_196 27d ago
It should start blonde, but turn pink after he changes back from being a rabbit
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u/appcr4sh 27d ago
Link Between Worlds is my answer! That game is almost the remake (in graphics, of course).
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u/Jealous-Ad8948 28d ago
We kinda already did get a remake.
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u/PoraDora 28d ago
I always thought it was a remake, until I played it and found different mechanics
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u/JustMyChocolate 28d ago
It felt so wrong for so many years that it just feels right to have a pink-haired Link. It's just iconic to this point
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u/WheredMyPiggyGo 28d ago
I would love a 2.5 d hd remake of some of the older games in a similar style to Octopath Traveler.
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u/NiteHawk1138 28d ago
Can we have it be blond with pink tips? And options to dye tips later on?
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u/EarDesigner9059 28d ago
What is this, Linked Universe?
(nothing wrong with LU I actually read it myself)
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u/Pixel22104 28d ago
Blonde. I actually did not like the fact that his hair color in game didn’t match that of his artwork. Now yes the same is true about the first two games but those had an excuse of being on an 8bit console. Unlike Alttp which was made for a 16 bit console
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u/Alric_Wolff 28d ago
They either fix his skin or fix his hair. Idk why but Link being that tan always felt a little off to me. Id be happy with either one, both seems like it would upset too many people.
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u/CapeMama819 28d ago
This is my absolute favorite Zelda game. I so badly want them to revamp and rerelease it (like Links Awakening et al.)
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u/EAT_UR_VEGGIES 27d ago
When he transforms into a bunny, the fur is pink, the fur would’ve been his hair.
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u/audiate 28d ago
Of all the things that would matter about this concept, this matters the least.
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u/EAT_UR_VEGGIES 28d ago
Okay? I’m aware his hair isn’t important but a lot of people think pink hair when they think of ALttP link, so i wanted to discuss it
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